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you looser enforen you creep'go rerair your screwed eye! mental case nut-job
via ars you goof!

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Once again, Keith old chap, you amaze us all with your grasp of the King's English. I noticed on another Atlantis Rising thread the warning of a moderator over some minor academic slight done to one of the posters. The mods for this thread must be turning apoplectic with such comments, entertaining as they are. But, as a good friend of mine, the author Michael Delving, once confided in me, "Sticks and stone may break my bones, but kilobytes will never hurt me."

Interesting you feel the need to slight my Templar accreditation: I came across this section just the other day, while slogging my way through Umberto Eco's "Focault's Pendulum:"

"They had been so dazzlingly intent on their feast of death and daring. Perhaps the sweat Saint Bernard talked about was a bronze glow that lent a sarcastic nobility to their fearsome smiles as they celebrated their farewell to life. Lions in war, Jacques de Vitry called them, but sweet lambs in times of peace; harsh in battle, devout in prayer; ferocious to their enemies, but full of kindness toward their brothers. The white and black of their banner were so apposite: to the friends of Christ they were pure; to His adversaries they were grim and terrible."

Leave it to Eco to find a way to link the Templars with sarcasm. The man's a genius. His words describing the dichotomy of the Templar visage provides me with all the support I need to lay bare your misleading claims, relying on all the sarcasm I can muster.


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OK, Keith, let's shoot down another of your faulty interpretations of an established Oak Island landmark. If Bacon were attempting to point to Birch Island with the stone triangle on Oak Island, why then did the lines on the triangle line up directly with boulders both north and south of the Money Pit, and to the Money Pit itself? Oh, that's right, your explanation is that the Money Pit, all 200 feet of it, is a false lead. Its only purpose, according to your current theory, is to point to the inscribed stone buried at the ninety foot mark.

Interesting how the original builders of the Money Pit would hide a stone ninety feet down, just above a concrete vault (borne out by hand auger samples in the 1800s). and protect this pit with oak logs at every ten feet, plus at least two completely separate (and ingenious) water channels that would flood the pit the minute any interloper dug another ten feet below the location of the inscribed stone.

Interesting also how the original builders apparently left evidence of work below the 200-foot mark, as supported by both video taken from Borehole 10-X, and samples pulled up from the same borehole. This appears quite unnecessary if, as you suggest, Keith, all this work was only to point to the inscribed stone some hundred feet higher up.

Interesting, too, how you've never answered the questions I posed earlier, that show quite clearly using your own images of Birch Island, how much change has occurred in the fauna of the island in as short a time period as perhaps twenty or thirty years. Yet you claim that this triangle has been visible, if Bacon or his supporters were involved, since the mid-1600s.

It's also interesting that you rely on the evidence the Fanthorpe's put forth in their Oak Island book on Bacon and his ciphers. In another of the Fanthorpes' books, "Mysteries of Templar Treasure and the Holy Grail," they describe the Baconian watermarks in greater detail, showing how some of them date back much earlier than Bacon's time period. It's interesting (sorry, I'm stuck on that word) that they don't even bother to show the supposedly crucial "bunch of grapes triangle" watermark you now lean so heavily on. Pages 92 and 93 show fifteen of Bacon's most well-recognized watermarks, only one of which has anything resembling grapes, and this one uses them merely as a vague Y-shape at the bottom of a pair of pillars that the Fanthorpes suggest bears a remarkable resemblance to Tolkien's image of the Doors of Moria:

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m183/TemplarScribe/05-Oak%20Island%20Support/Wmark_and_Durins_Door_fin.jpg

Wait, Keith! That's it! The doors -- those subterranean doors you've found! The ones that Native Americans supposedly built, offshore of Birch Island? They don't hide pirate treasure, or Shakespearean manuscripts, or Templar artifacts! They don't conceal a clue to the location of Atlantis, as you once thought! They contain -- ready for a big shock, Keith? --

They conceal the actual location to the dwarven Mines of Moria!

Wow, Keith! Huge breakthrough for your theory! Hey, feel free to take this idea and run with it. Pretend that you came up with this first, then blacken my name in all the threads where I point out how I helped you come up with this world-shattering conclusion.

Actually, feel free to consider the whole blackening-of-my-name part already paid in full. (:^D)

BTW: For those stuck on the facts, Bacon was never considered a Freemason, not by traditional Masonic historians, despite what Keith suggests. Freemasonry didn't become an official group with a recorded list of its members until 1717, when the first English lodge was formed. However, it is possible to interpret from some of Bacon's watermarks that he may have supported the Rosicrucians: the link below shows that when Bacon used the letters "C.R." (as he often did), he may have been pointing to the legendary creator of the Rosy Cross order, one Christian Rosenkreutz.

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/2216/clsctexts/bacon_watermarks.htm

But then, why let such fuzzy things as facts get in the way of a good Keith Ranville rant?

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TEMPLARSCRIBE SCUM YOU ARE A GOOF TO! LOOSER!
Go scab of some other persons noteriety jerk?

SHUT YOUR HOLE?

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OAK ISLAND TREASURE RESEARCH

Referance Letters


Steve Zou, P.Eng.,Ph.D.
Minning Engineer

Dec 1, 2005

To whom it may concern:

Re: Mr. Ranville's discovery of the Oak Island Mystery

Last week, Mr. Keith Ranville came to see me in my office and provided a
document regarding his discovery of the Oak Island Treasure Mystery. He made a Presentation and explained his Findings.

I found that his interpretation of the inscription carved on the stone discovered in 1803 is
very different from others. I believe that his translation has some logic and is reasonable to certain degrees. If his discovery can be proven to be correct, it will have a significant impact on Canada's heritage on the east coast. Therefore I think that his proposed project is worth consideration for support.

Sincerely
Steve Zou, P.Eng.


BEAR RIVER FIRST NATION NOVA SCOTIA

Bear River First Nation
P.O. BOX 210 PHONE: (902) 467-3802
BEAR RIVER (902) 467-3803
NOVA SCOTIA FAX: (902) 467-4143


October 18, 2005

To whom it may concern:

Please be advised that Keith Ranville has met with the BEAR RIVER FIRST NATION of Nova Scotia and provided a presentation of his proposed research on Oak Island or Mahone Bay. On behalf of the Bear River First Nation, we support this project in principle and look forward to the progress of this endeavor.

Respectfully,
Chief Frank Meuse jr.

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Sault Ste. Marie Museum
January 19th, 2006

To Whom It May Concern;

In the fall of 2005 Mr. Keith Ranville came to visit the Sault Ste. Marie Museum and provided an explanation of his research and his proposed project to the Museum Director / Curator.
On December 29th, 2005 the Museum received a fax from Mr. Ranville asking for a letter of support for his project.
The Management Board of Directors of the Sault Ste. Marie Museum was provided with his information package and his request at the regular meeting of January 19th, 2006.
On behalf of the Board of Directors, we support this project in principle as it relates to the history of Canada and look forward to further developments which may result.

Sincerely,
Mr. Bruce E. Pearce, President
Management Board of Directors
Sault Ste. Marie Museum

For more Information Please tour My Webpage
http://kr.mendhak.com

Canadian First Nations Researcher
Keith Ranvile


Oak Island Update! – Cree Code Breaker Challenges 140-Year Old Cipher

MAHONE BAY, Nova Scotia –The enigma of Oak Island has been called one of the greatest archaeological and engineering achievements of mankind. Often referred to as Canada’s best known unsolved mystery, Oak Island proudly boasts it’s title for hosting the site of the World’s longest treasure hunt in recorded history. Now in its 212th year this 10 million dollar project that has selfishly taken the lives of six young men is no closer to being solved than it was in 1795 when three teen boys discovered a shaft here and began digging for what they believed to be pirate treasure! The boys excavated down to the 30 foot mark, exhausted and unable to continue they realized the dig would be a much larger effort then they first imagined. What the boys found as they dug convinced all three that they had indeed discovered a man-made vertical shaft of sound engineering. Their only conclusion was that it had been built to hide an enormous treasure. Knowing that a proper excavation required equipment, animals and manpower the boys set out to find investment capital. It took years but they did find an investor with whom they became the founders of the Onslow Company, the first of many treasure recovery companies that would come and go on Oak Island. To date the cost of this intoxicating treasure hunt has far exceeded ten million dollars and consigned six sturdy treasure hunters to an early grave.

Now for the first time since the 1860’s one man has come forward to challenge the translation of a cryptic message found etched into a stone that was discovered at the 90-foot mark in the original shaft in 1803 by the Onslow Company. The stone vanished about 1900 and no known image or text was preserved showing the cryptic message. However a Mahone Bay school teacher in 1909 claimed to have copied the two line, forty-character coded text directly from the stone hoping that he could break the code himself. He provided the only image of the codex known to exist stating the code was a simple letter-for-cipher that was accurately translated by Professor James Leitchi, a professor of languages at Dalhouse University in 1860’s. Leitchi’s translation reads… “Forty feet below two million pounds are buried.” Although Leitchi’s translation has never been directly challenged it has always been suspicious since a business relationship is known to have existed between Leitchi and the Oak Island Association, the 1860’s recovery company.

Recently Keith Ranville, a Cree First Nations researcher announced his challenge of Leitchi’s translation stating… “Birch Island holds the secret to the meaning of the construction on Oak Island. According to the Lunenburg Progress Enterprise, Ranville claims that Leitchi’s method to break the code was flawed, citing that his translation using the First Nations tradition, sees the codex as individual abstract symbols that were never intended to be translated into a single message. Using Ranville’s method to decipher the code, which reads more like a map, Oak Island is directly linked to its sister island, nearby Birch Island by underwater man-made shafts. He cites the repeated use of the triangle from the original inscription and points to the large triangle that he discovered on Birch Island which is only visible from the air. The triangle on the 16-acre Birch Island takes up much of the Island which Ranville believes is also the ancient burial grounds for those who were involved with the complex construction found on Oak Island.

Ranville’s work offers a completely different approach to solving the Oak Island mystery. Traveling across Canada Ranville has presented his findings to a number of scholars and groups many of whom have supported his work in principal. He has been interviewed on radio programs and his currently looking for funding to help pursue his research further. Those supporting Ranville’s research include mining engineer, Steve Zou, P.Eng.,PH.D, the Bear River First Nation of Nova Scotia, the Sault Ste. Marie Museum. To learn more you can log on to Ranville’s web site at: http://www.mendhak.com.

Sources-

Heyl, Larry, Lincoln Engraving Mystery Unsolved, Delta Boogie, http://www.deltaboogie.com/features/mystery/

Several interviews with Sue Mathes from September through December, 2006

Zinck, Angie, Is Oak Island’s treasure really on Birch Island, Lunenburg Progress Enterprise, October 18, 2006

Correspondence with Keith Ranville during December, 2006

http://www.mythandmystery.com/birch_island_triangle.htm
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http://www.mythandmystery.com/sir_francis_bacon_oak_island_connection.htm

NEWS RELEASE

NEW READING OF MYSTERIOUS OAK ISLAND INSCRIPTION

Theory points to possible connection with nearby Birch Island

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
HALIFAX, Nova Scotia: Wednesday, July 12th, 2006 - - For the past two centuries, the tunnels of Nova Scotia’s Oak Island have piqued the imagination of historians and treasure hunters alike. Now, a new theory by First Nations researcher Keith Ranville may add fresh speculation to the mystery. Based on a unique reading of an inscription once found in the “Money Pit,” Mr. Ranville believes that the answer to the riddle may be found on nearby Birch Island.

Oak Island, located on the scenic Mahone Bay about an hour’s drive south of the provincial capital of Halifax, has been associated with buried treasure since the late 18th century. Local settlers reportedly found a ship’s tackle block hanging from a tree branch, overhanging a large depression in the ground. Early efforts to dig down failed when the diggers encountered layers of timber every 10 feet. In the ensuing generations, several organized excavation attempts have drilled down nearly 200 feet, en route encountering some artifacts within the staggered layers of logs, clay, putty, charcoal, flagstones and most perplexingly, coconut husks. Among the scores of enthusiastic treasure hunters was a young Franklin Roosevelt, one of the investors in a 1909 excavation attempt.

During the earlier diggings of 1800’s, the tunnel had become flooded by seawater – which many believed was the result booby trap being sprung – thus complicating further digging since then. A drilling effort in the mid 1800’s was said to have uncovered fragments of a gold chain. In 1971, a camera was lowered into the pit and reportedly captured images of wooden chests and human remains.

One of the most fascinating artifacts from the pit was said to be a flat stone recovered at the 90 foot depth, carrying a mysterious inscription. A fragment of stone with similar symbols was found nearby in Smith’s Cove in the 1930’s. The stone tablet itself has gone missing, but a record of its symbols remains. Until now, the consensus is that the symbols are a code translated as “forty feet below two million pounds are buried.” However, Keith Ranville’s theory offers a different interpretation as to the stone’s symbols, which could lead to a new explanation of the Oak Island mystery.

“I believe these symbols have been incorrectly assumed to stand for something else. In the First Nations tradition that I’m a part of, we believe symbols should simply be looked at in and of themselves, rather than thinking of them as codes that have to be cracked,” Mr. Ranville explained. “In the pictograms of Cree Salavics, for example, the images are meant to be descriptive, not abstract.” Using this approach, Mr. Ranville examined the Oak Island symbols and found what may be a set of instructions about a tunnel system involving both Oak Island and nearby Birch Island.

For example, the stone inscription begins with a triangle symbol, which is repeated throughout. Mr. Ranville believes that this represents nearby Birch Island, which has a distinctly triangular clearing on its north shore. Likewise, a symbol showing a circle divided into two hemispheres can be thought of as representing north/south directional markers. A series of dots in singles, pairs and triplets may be quantitative symbols.

Examining all the symbols in this way, Mr. Ranville believes that the symbols on the Money Pit’s stone tablet are actually technical instructions describing the location and layout of a possible underground network involving both Oak Island and Birch Island. “There was a fragment of another stone tablet that was found on Oak Island’s Smith Cove in the 1930’s,” Mr. Ranville explained. “It too has these types of symbols, but one in particular appears to be a Greek symbol designating ‘underwater door’. In conjunction with the other symbols, I believe this points to underwater doors and additional shafts on Birch Island itself.” Smith’s Cove is on the part of Oak Island that is closest to Birch Island, and is said to have yielded several artifacts itself over the years.

“Based on the inscribed symbols, I think we should be looking at Oak Island and Birch Island together in order to solve the mystery. If Birch Island proves to have underwater doors and tunnels around its triangular clearing, then it would be a huge step forward in our understanding of what Oak Island is all about.”

There have been many, occasionally bizarre, theories as to what the Oak Island tunnels may contain: a Masonic vault containing the Holy Grail, Viking or Pirate booty, Inca treasure, the French Royal Crown Jewels, payroll for colonial British soldiers or even the secret writings of Francis Bacon. Mr. Ranville prefers not to speculate. “Those are interesting and sometimes funny theories, but I’d rather just look at the evidence that we do have, and go from there.”

Mr. Ranville is a self-taught researcher born in Manitoba. While living in Vancouver, he became acquainted with the Oak Island mystery and began studying it. In October 2005, he relocated to Nova Scotia to further research and advance his theories on the subject.

Both Oak Island and Birch Island are private property, and access must be sought by permission of the landowners.

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http://www.mythandmystery.com/birch_island_triangle.htm
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http://www.mythandmystery.com/sir_francis_bacon_oak_island_connection.htm

First Nations translator deciphers ancient stone as a treasure map
By ANGIE ZINCK
WESTERN SHORE - You may have heard about the Da Vinci code, but the Ranville code could be what solves the longest-running treasure hunt in recorded history.
Keith Ranville, a First Nations man, has travelled from Winnipeg to Nova Scotia in hopes of unlocking the secret codes on Oak Island. He says he has done so by re-translating one of the stones found on the island over 200 years ago.
The stone was first found in 1803 by the Onslow Company. Found 90 feet down the Money Pit, the stone was believed to be two feet long and 15 inches wide, weighing approximately 175 lb.
Since that time, it has been said that the inscription on the stone read "forty feet below two million pounds are buried," as transcribed by James Leitchi, a professor of languages at Dalhousie University. Some researchers have questioned this translation as Mr. Leitchi was involved in a treasure hunting company trying to sell stocks.
Today, the actual stone is lost. It was used as a hearthstone in two homes on Oak Island, but it was moved to a Halifax storefront where it went missing when the building was torn down. Its last known location was around the Centennial Pool area.
Mr. Ranville used pictures of the stone to decipher its series of shapes, lines and dots to reveal a new translation that reads more like a map.
"I've brought some new stuff to the table," he says, adding that the stone's etchings could be used to figure out the mystery of Oak Island.
By his translation, much of the digging in the Money Pit area has been a waste of time and money.
"I believe the pit wasn't meant to go beyond 100 feet," he says. "I believe it wasn't meant to go beyond these symbols."
If one were to take Mr. Ranville's code and follow it, it would lead you off Oak Island, the site of all the treasure hunting for the past 211 years, under the water of the bay and onto the neighbouring Birch Island via man-made shafts.
"The instructions at the bottom of the pit tell you about where and how to locate these shafts and I believe they're in Mahone Bay," he says.
Mr. Ranville believes the two islands are connected by these shafts. He said that aerial shots of Birch Island prove the island has been touched by human hands. These aerial shots of the 16-acre Birch Island do show a large triangle which takes up a good portion of the island landscape.
"What I want to do is investigate this island where I think these symbols lead to," he says.
Mr. Ranville has contacted the owner, Christopher Ondaatje, to inquire about doing some soil testing and exploring on the island.
In addition to being the home of the famous treasure, Mr. Ranville believes Birch Island may also be an ancient burial site for those who were involved in the original treasure-hiding scheme.
"This is a significant Nova Scotia heritage discovery and that is Canada's national treasure brought here for our guardianship long before Canada was established," he says. "We should respect the civilization that is responsible for the makings of these structures.
"They were a very unique culture and may hold the secret to many ancient structures."
Although he doesn't know who actually buried the treasure, Mr. Ranville believes Oak Island and Birch Island need to be protected from further change to unlock their true history.
At the time of this interview, Mr. Ranville had yet to hear from Mr. Ondaatje regarding the island. He says he will continue to research the island and its tales of mystery and treasure. Check out Google Earth on the World Wide Web to see satellite photos of Birch Island and its triangle.

http://www.mythandmystery.com/birch_island_triangle.htm
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http://www.mythandmystery.com/sir_francis_bacon_oak_island_connection.htm

OAK ISLAND AND SIR FRANCIS BACONS SECRET CIPHER

OAK ISLAND TREASURE MYSTERY WATERMARK CIPHER
New: Oak Island Secret Treasure Cipher
Recently Mr. Ranville made it known of a translation of a watermark cipher that he broken down from top to bottom descriptively, while Mr. Ranville was investigating the Oak Island treasure mystery’ he came across a watermark in a book the Oak Island Mystery by the Fanthorpes. The theory of Sir Francis Bacon and his relation to Oak Island is not relatively new, many books on Oak Island mention Sir Francis Bacon as contender of who? As a possible suspect that he may have involvement in the Oak Island treasure mystery that is now in it’s 212th year of many searches for the trophy treasure that past treasure hunters failed to grasp. Perhaps with more advanced treasure-hunting equipment and exploring Mr. Ranville’s Oak islands research concepts will give us a better understanding of this enigma. It is said Sir Francis Bacons personal writings were and preserved in mercury and hidden some where in the Oak Island treasure mystery?Keith Ranville a Canadian First Nations Native, is known for his translation’s of the Oak Island Money pit symbols, and for his newly discovery the Birch Island triangle.
Mr. Ranville explains his theory in diagrams:
http://www.treasurestories.losttreasurehunting.com/2007/02/13/oak-island-treasure-mystery-watermark-cipher/

http://www.losttreasurehunting.com/images/Page1875Baconianwatermark.jpg

Oak Island Treasure Hunter/Researcher

Keith Ranville

http://kr.mendhak.com
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The New Atlantis
Sir Francis Bacon, Watermarks 1-20

(click here to view diagram 14)
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/2216/clsctexts/Bacon_wtrmrks.gif

14. Mr. Ranville Translations of the watermark Reads; Oak Island triangle first, second triangle is on rectangle stone beneath.
14. These two symbols or designs are from Bacon's look, The New Atlantis, published in 1669. Note here two triangles formed by the grapes, both resting upon a flower. The upper triangle contains 5 grapes and the lower one 7 grapes, the upper part of the flower helping to form the bottom point of the lower triangle.

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/2216/clsctexts/bacon_watermarks.htm

http://www.mythandmystery.com/sir_francis_bacon_oak_island_connection.htm

http://www.treasurestories.losttreasurehunting.com/2007/02/13/oak-island-treasure-mystery-watermark-cipher/

Oak Islamd Treasure Hunter

keith Ranville

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Shouldn't that be, "Shut your Pit"? (;^D)

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shut your crap hole!

Who listens to you idiots anyway?

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OAK ISLAND TREASURE RESEARCH

Referance Letters


Steve Zou, P.Eng.,Ph.D.
Minning Engineer

Dec 1, 2005

To whom it may concern:

Re: Mr. Ranville's discovery of the Oak Island Mystery

Last week, Mr. Keith Ranville came to see me in my office and provided a
document regarding his discovery of the Oak Island Treasure Mystery. He made a Presentation and explained his Findings.

I found that his interpretation of the inscription carved on the stone discovered in 1803 is
very different from others. I believe that his translation has some logic and is reasonable to certain degrees. If his discovery can be proven to be correct, it will have a significant impact on Canada's heritage on the east coast. Therefore I think that his proposed project is worth consideration for support.

Sincerely
Steve Zou, P.Eng.


BEAR RIVER FIRST NATION NOVA SCOTIA

Bear River First Nation
P.O. BOX 210 PHONE: (902) 467-3802
BEAR RIVER (902) 467-3803
NOVA SCOTIA FAX: (902) 467-4143


October 18, 2005

To whom it may concern:

Please be advised that Keith Ranville has met with the BEAR RIVER FIRST NATION of Nova Scotia and provided a presentation of his proposed research on Oak Island or Mahone Bay. On behalf of the Bear River First Nation, we support this project in principle and look forward to the progress of this endeavor.

Respectfully,
Chief Frank Meuse jr.

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Sault Ste. Marie Museum
January 19th, 2006

To Whom It May Concern;

In the fall of 2005 Mr. Keith Ranville came to visit the Sault Ste. Marie Museum and provided an explanation of his research and his proposed project to the Museum Director / Curator.
On December 29th, 2005 the Museum received a fax from Mr. Ranville asking for a letter of support for his project.
The Management Board of Directors of the Sault Ste. Marie Museum was provided with his information package and his request at the regular meeting of January 19th, 2006.
On behalf of the Board of Directors, we support this project in principle as it relates to the history of Canada and look forward to further developments which may result.

Sincerely,
Mr. Bruce E. Pearce, President
Management Board of Directors
Sault Ste. Marie Museum

For more Information Please tour My Webpage
http://kr.mendhak.com

Canadian First Nations Researcher
Keith Ranvile


Oak Island Update! – Cree Code Breaker Challenges 140-Year Old Cipher

MAHONE BAY, Nova Scotia –The enigma of Oak Island has been called one of the greatest archaeological and engineering achievements of mankind. Often referred to as Canada’s best known unsolved mystery, Oak Island proudly boasts it’s title for hosting the site of the World’s longest treasure hunt in recorded history. Now in its 212th year this 10 million dollar project that has selfishly taken the lives of six young men is no closer to being solved than it was in 1795 when three teen boys discovered a shaft here and began digging for what they believed to be pirate treasure! The boys excavated down to the 30 foot mark, exhausted and unable to continue they realized the dig would be a much larger effort then they first imagined. What the boys found as they dug convinced all three that they had indeed discovered a man-made vertical shaft of sound engineering. Their only conclusion was that it had been built to hide an enormous treasure. Knowing that a proper excavation required equipment, animals and manpower the boys set out to find investment capital. It took years but they did find an investor with whom they became the founders of the Onslow Company, the first of many treasure recovery companies that would come and go on Oak Island. To date the cost of this intoxicating treasure hunt has far exceeded ten million dollars and consigned six sturdy treasure hunters to an early grave.

Now for the first time since the 1860’s one man has come forward to challenge the translation of a cryptic message found etched into a stone that was discovered at the 90-foot mark in the original shaft in 1803 by the Onslow Company. The stone vanished about 1900 and no known image or text was preserved showing the cryptic message. However a Mahone Bay school teacher in 1909 claimed to have copied the two line, forty-character coded text directly from the stone hoping that he could break the code himself. He provided the only image of the codex known to exist stating the code was a simple letter-for-cipher that was accurately translated by Professor James Leitchi, a professor of languages at Dalhouse University in 1860’s. Leitchi’s translation reads… “Forty feet below two million pounds are buried.” Although Leitchi’s translation has never been directly challenged it has always been suspicious since a business relationship is known to have existed between Leitchi and the Oak Island Association, the 1860’s recovery company.

Recently Keith Ranville, a Cree First Nations researcher announced his challenge of Leitchi’s translation stating… “Birch Island holds the secret to the meaning of the construction on Oak Island. According to the Lunenburg Progress Enterprise, Ranville claims that Leitchi’s method to break the code was flawed, citing that his translation using the First Nations tradition, sees the codex as individual abstract symbols that were never intended to be translated into a single message. Using Ranville’s method to decipher the code, which reads more like a map, Oak Island is directly linked to its sister island, nearby Birch Island by underwater man-made shafts. He cites the repeated use of the triangle from the original inscription and points to the large triangle that he discovered on Birch Island which is only visible from the air. The triangle on the 16-acre Birch Island takes up much of the Island which Ranville believes is also the ancient burial grounds for those who were involved with the complex construction found on Oak Island.

Ranville’s work offers a completely different approach to solving the Oak Island mystery. Traveling across Canada Ranville has presented his findings to a number of scholars and groups many of whom have supported his work in principal. He has been interviewed on radio programs and his currently looking for funding to help pursue his research further. Those supporting Ranville’s research include mining engineer, Steve Zou, P.Eng.,PH.D, the Bear River First Nation of Nova Scotia, the Sault Ste. Marie Museum. To learn more you can log on to Ranville’s web site at: http://www.mendhak.com.

Sources-

Heyl, Larry, Lincoln Engraving Mystery Unsolved, Delta Boogie, http://www.deltaboogie.com/features/mystery/

Several interviews with Sue Mathes from September through December, 2006

Zinck, Angie, Is Oak Island’s treasure really on Birch Island, Lunenburg Progress Enterprise, October 18, 2006

Correspondence with Keith Ranville during December, 2006

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NEW READING OF MYSTERIOUS OAK ISLAND INSCRIPTION

Theory points to possible connection with nearby Birch Island

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HALIFAX, Nova Scotia: Wednesday, July 12th, 2006 - - For the past two centuries, the tunnels of Nova Scotia’s Oak Island have piqued the imagination of historians and treasure hunters alike. Now, a new theory by First Nations researcher Keith Ranville may add fresh speculation to the mystery. Based on a unique reading of an inscription once found in the “Money Pit,” Mr. Ranville believes that the answer to the riddle may be found on nearby Birch Island.

Oak Island, located on the scenic Mahone Bay about an hour’s drive south of the provincial capital of Halifax, has been associated with buried treasure since the late 18th century. Local settlers reportedly found a ship’s tackle block hanging from a tree branch, overhanging a large depression in the ground. Early efforts to dig down failed when the diggers encountered layers of timber every 10 feet. In the ensuing generations, several organized excavation attempts have drilled down nearly 200 feet, en route encountering some artifacts within the staggered layers of logs, clay, putty, charcoal, flagstones and most perplexingly, coconut husks. Among the scores of enthusiastic treasure hunters was a young Franklin Roosevelt, one of the investors in a 1909 excavation attempt.

During the earlier diggings of 1800’s, the tunnel had become flooded by seawater – which many believed was the result booby trap being sprung – thus complicating further digging since then. A drilling effort in the mid 1800’s was said to have uncovered fragments of a gold chain. In 1971, a camera was lowered into the pit and reportedly captured images of wooden chests and human remains.

One of the most fascinating artifacts from the pit was said to be a flat stone recovered at the 90 foot depth, carrying a mysterious inscription. A fragment of stone with similar symbols was found nearby in Smith’s Cove in the 1930’s. The stone tablet itself has gone missing, but a record of its symbols remains. Until now, the consensus is that the symbols are a code translated as “forty feet below two million pounds are buried.” However, Keith Ranville’s theory offers a different interpretation as to the stone’s symbols, which could lead to a new explanation of the Oak Island mystery.

“I believe these symbols have been incorrectly assumed to stand for something else. In the First Nations tradition that I’m a part of, we believe symbols should simply be looked at in and of themselves, rather than thinking of them as codes that have to be cracked,” Mr. Ranville explained. “In the pictograms of Cree Salavics, for example, the images are meant to be descriptive, not abstract.” Using this approach, Mr. Ranville examined the Oak Island symbols and found what may be a set of instructions about a tunnel system involving both Oak Island and nearby Birch Island.

For example, the stone inscription begins with a triangle symbol, which is repeated throughout. Mr. Ranville believes that this represents nearby Birch Island, which has a distinctly triangular clearing on its north shore. Likewise, a symbol showing a circle divided into two hemispheres can be thought of as representing north/south directional markers. A series of dots in singles, pairs and triplets may be quantitative symbols.

Examining all the symbols in this way, Mr. Ranville believes that the symbols on the Money Pit’s stone tablet are actually technical instructions describing the location and layout of a possible underground network involving both Oak Island and Birch Island. “There was a fragment of another stone tablet that was found on Oak Island’s Smith Cove in the 1930’s,” Mr. Ranville explained. “It too has these types of symbols, but one in particular appears to be a Greek symbol designating ‘underwater door’. In conjunction with the other symbols, I believe this points to underwater doors and additional shafts on Birch Island itself.” Smith’s Cove is on the part of Oak Island that is closest to Birch Island, and is said to have yielded several artifacts itself over the years.

“Based on the inscribed symbols, I think we should be looking at Oak Island and Birch Island together in order to solve the mystery. If Birch Island proves to have underwater doors and tunnels around its triangular clearing, then it would be a huge step forward in our understanding of what Oak Island is all about.”

There have been many, occasionally bizarre, theories as to what the Oak Island tunnels may contain: a Masonic vault containing the Holy Grail, Viking or Pirate booty, Inca treasure, the French Royal Crown Jewels, payroll for colonial British soldiers or even the secret writings of Francis Bacon. Mr. Ranville prefers not to speculate. “Those are interesting and sometimes funny theories, but I’d rather just look at the evidence that we do have, and go from there.”

Mr. Ranville is a self-taught researcher born in Manitoba. While living in Vancouver, he became acquainted with the Oak Island mystery and began studying it. In October 2005, he relocated to Nova Scotia to further research and advance his theories on the subject.

Both Oak Island and Birch Island are private property, and access must be sought by permission of the landowners.

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First Nations translator deciphers ancient stone as a treasure map
By ANGIE ZINCK
WESTERN SHORE - You may have heard about the Da Vinci code, but the Ranville code could be what solves the longest-running treasure hunt in recorded history.
Keith Ranville, a First Nations man, has travelled from Winnipeg to Nova Scotia in hopes of unlocking the secret codes on Oak Island. He says he has done so by re-translating one of the stones found on the island over 200 years ago.
The stone was first found in 1803 by the Onslow Company. Found 90 feet down the Money Pit, the stone was believed to be two feet long and 15 inches wide, weighing approximately 175 lb.
Since that time, it has been said that the inscription on the stone read "forty feet below two million pounds are buried," as transcribed by James Leitchi, a professor of languages at Dalhousie University. Some researchers have questioned this translation as Mr. Leitchi was involved in a treasure hunting company trying to sell stocks.
Today, the actual stone is lost. It was used as a hearthstone in two homes on Oak Island, but it was moved to a Halifax storefront where it went missing when the building was torn down. Its last known location was around the Centennial Pool area.
Mr. Ranville used pictures of the stone to decipher its series of shapes, lines and dots to reveal a new translation that reads more like a map.
"I've brought some new stuff to the table," he says, adding that the stone's etchings could be used to figure out the mystery of Oak Island.
By his translation, much of the digging in the Money Pit area has been a waste of time and money.
"I believe the pit wasn't meant to go beyond 100 feet," he says. "I believe it wasn't meant to go beyond these symbols."
If one were to take Mr. Ranville's code and follow it, it would lead you off Oak Island, the site of all the treasure hunting for the past 211 years, under the water of the bay and onto the neighbouring Birch Island via man-made shafts.
"The instructions at the bottom of the pit tell you about where and how to locate these shafts and I believe they're in Mahone Bay," he says.
Mr. Ranville believes the two islands are connected by these shafts. He said that aerial shots of Birch Island prove the island has been touched by human hands. These aerial shots of the 16-acre Birch Island do show a large triangle which takes up a good portion of the island landscape.
"What I want to do is investigate this island where I think these symbols lead to," he says.
Mr. Ranville has contacted the owner, Christopher Ondaatje, to inquire about doing some soil testing and exploring on the island.
In addition to being the home of the famous treasure, Mr. Ranville believes Birch Island may also be an ancient burial site for those who were involved in the original treasure-hiding scheme.
"This is a significant Nova Scotia heritage discovery and that is Canada's national treasure brought here for our guardianship long before Canada was established," he says. "We should respect the civilization that is responsible for the makings of these structures.
"They were a very unique culture and may hold the secret to many ancient structures."
Although he doesn't know who actually buried the treasure, Mr. Ranville believes Oak Island and Birch Island need to be protected from further change to unlock their true history.
At the time of this interview, Mr. Ranville had yet to hear from Mr. Ondaatje regarding the island. He says he will continue to research the island and its tales of mystery and treasure. Check out Google Earth on the World Wide Web to see satellite photos of Birch Island and its triangle.

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OAK ISLAND AND SIR FRANCIS BACONS SECRET CIPHER

OAK ISLAND TREASURE MYSTERY WATERMARK CIPHER
New: Oak Island Secret Treasure Cipher
Recently Mr. Ranville made it known of a translation of a watermark cipher that he broken down from top to bottom descriptively, while Mr. Ranville was investigating the Oak Island treasure mystery’ he came across a watermark in a book the Oak Island Mystery by the Fanthorpes. The theory of Sir Francis Bacon and his relation to Oak Island is not relatively new, many books on Oak Island mention Sir Francis Bacon as contender of who? As a possible suspect that he may have involvement in the Oak Island treasure mystery that is now in it’s 212th year of many searches for the trophy treasure that past treasure hunters failed to grasp. Perhaps with more advanced treasure-hunting equipment and exploring Mr. Ranville’s Oak islands research concepts will give us a better understanding of this enigma. It is said Sir Francis Bacons personal writings were and preserved in mercury and hidden some where in the Oak Island treasure mystery?Keith Ranville a Canadian First Nations Native, is known for his translation’s of the Oak Island Money pit symbols, and for his newly discovery the Birch Island triangle.
Mr. Ranville explains his theory in diagrams:
http://www.treasurestories.losttreasurehunting.com/2007/02/13/oak-island-treasure-mystery-watermark-cipher/

http://www.losttreasurehunting.com/images/Page1875Baconianwatermark.jpg

Oak Island Treasure Hunter/Researcher

Keith Ranville

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The New Atlantis
Sir Francis Bacon, Watermarks 1-20

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14. Mr. Ranville Translations of the watermark Reads; Oak Island triangle first, second triangle is on rectangle stone beneath.
14. These two symbols or designs are from Bacon's look, The New Atlantis, published in 1669. Note here two triangles formed by the grapes, both resting upon a flower. The upper triangle contains 5 grapes and the lower one 7 grapes, the upper part of the flower helping to form the bottom point of the lower triangle.

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you looser enforen you creep'go rerair your screwed eye! mental case nut-job
via ars you goof!
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Ranville, did you just say what I think you said? Did you make a comment about someone's physical handicap?

You know what, Keith? I've had it with you. For this little but of slander above, I've decided to report you to the moderators of this forum. I've suggested that they don't make this thread disappear, but that they explain to you what the conditions are to be allowed to post in an open forum. If I were them, I'd ban you and your multiple IP addresses from ever using this forum in the future.

Perhaps they'll leave this thread in place but block any further posts, as a warning to others who feel they can get away with such hateful vitriol. Perhaps it'll all disappear in blinding flash, and you along with it.

But from now on, I plan on reporting you whenever you make a spiteful, disgusting comment like the ones you've so recently felt the need to post. I urge everyone else on this forum who feels the same way to do likewise.

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Then shut up and get lost looser nobody want to listen to you, YOU jealous idiot

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What lodge are you from, I want report you.

Maybe they will have your feet dangling in water under a bridge some where?

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TemplarScribe,

What you read is all which Keith can muster.

Bogus letters of support, the altered Angie Zinck article, and a pile of lies. He has nothing real to offer.

Hey Keith, how come you don't live about the people of your mother tribe? My guess is the entire Cree Nation most likely had enough of you and forced you to leave.

Funny how the Cree Nation does not embraced you and your ideas. I see nothing coming from them in either kind words or with their money to back your treasure dig. It must be very frustrating and disheartening the very group to which you self identify doesn't give you their support.

Once again, can you tell everyone why you failed to get a letter of support from the Gold River Nation, the very people who over look these 'treasure properties'?

Folks, Keith has created this complex illusion for the purpose of an investment solicitation.

You can read all about it below.

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you are a GOOF

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You sick twisted FREAK'

"no one even listen to your hear'say crap"


Quit waisting other peoples time you are as crooked as you scewed eye'

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Does the sacred mason brotherhood use inscriptions of any kind? Since they were founded by the Templars (said to be founded anyway), I'm guessing that some Nova Scotia lodge has the secrets to all the Oak Island mysteries, just isn't telling.
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Since all Keith seems bent on doing is digging himself a deeper hole, I thought I'd dive back into the facts of the Oak Island mystery, and maybe bring this wayward thread back on topic.

Jeremy points out an interesting possibility: that the code on the Ninety Foot Stone is part of an existent code (from the time it was placed) that was meaningful to some other group, perhaps the Templars or some Templar derivative group like the Freemasons or Rosicrucians.

You'll notice, I don't call the stone the Inscribed Stone. There is such controversy surrounding the stone that was translated during the 1860s, when fundraising efforts were underway, that the inscription and translation that is so well known to all may be nothing more than a best guess, or at worst, a flat-out phony. The stone was apparently so insignificant when it was first discovered that it was left in the shaft for some time (its weight may have been enough that it might have been too heavy to move out at first). There is also the suggestion that any inscription found was on the downward side, maybe to protect it from anyone digging their way down to that level.

But there are other reports from the time the stone was discovered (1803) that suggest the "inscription" was nothing more than scratches from geologic activity, glacial engravings and nothing more. I can't say this is the case, but it has to be an option.

But Jeremy's question deserves an answer, and an answer that I've been puzzling over since the very first time I started serious investigation of the Money Pit. Here's the thing: the translation that reads "Forty feet down, two million pounds are buried" is too easy a translation to make. It's a simple substitution cipher that can be reasonably easily translated by almost anyone familiar with codes of any kind. I have serious doubts that any group spending so much effort to hide what was in the Money Pit, would use such a simple code.

We're not talking about pirates here, either. While there are locations (such as in the Caribbean) where pirate banks have been found, there's never been any similar kind of work like Oak Island anywhere else. It's easy to say that whoever placed the treasure at Oak Island were unique individuals, with unique resources, above the pale of a traditional pirate burial. When we're talking about the creation of false beaches and hidden drains that pull in sea water only after excavators reach a certain level, we're talking about some serious intelligence and planning here.

So let's assume for the time being that there was an exceptional group that built the Money Pit, and its defenses. Let's also assume that, for whatever reason, they left a stone at the ninety foot level, either as a warning or as a challenge, since the Pit's defenses wouldn't be activated until the diggers went another ten feet or so. Let's assume also that the inscription translated in the 1860s is not the truth, but close to it.

Here's the thing: when the scholar from Dalhousie University went about translating the inscription, his result was prominently displayed in the window of the Creighton bookbinding company. This was still within the timeframe of people who must have seen the stone while it was still in place in the fireplace of John Smith in his home on Oak Island. There's no record of anyone coming up to Creighton's and saying, "Hey, that's not the way I remember that inscription looking."

That supports the theory that the inscription was so vague or so hard to see, that no one was really certain what was on the stone. So they deferred to the "expert" that Creighton brought in, and kept their doubts to themselves.

But there's a curious thing about the characters or symbols that were used for the translation. They all belong to the realm of one significant branch of the occult: alchemy.

Keith won't want to hear this, I'm certain, but the symbols of the 1860s translation come not from Native American tradition, but from the long-hidden language of alchemists. There are some great online resources to view these symbols. Take a look at some of the following:

http://www.levity.com/alchemy/scheele_.html
http://www.levity.com/alchemy/val_symb.html
http://www.chemsoc.org/viselements/Pages/alchemist/alchemy.html

I can say with some modesty that my research from within and outside of Masonry has shown me that if there are any real secrets contained in Masonry, they are well hidden, even from the best researchers to date. The majority of what you'll find are stories linked to Solomon's Temple, the time of the Exodus and perhaps before. But there is no evidence of any "Masonic" code or hidden language that I've found. There are isolated instances of engravings, such as the story of the Ineffable Word (the hidden Name of Go) and theorized inscriptions on the Ark of the Covenant, using a simple "tic tac toe" cross layout. But these are rare instances, and other than geometric symbology, there is no observable Masonic code or language.

Not so with the earlier instances of alchemy. The early practitioners encoded much of what they wrote in both secret symbols, as well as metaphorical tales. "The Alchemycal Marriage of Christian Rosenkreutz" (spelled various ways) is one of the earliest tales, dating from the beginning of the 1600s, and purports to lay out significant information to the initiated, couched in terms describing a wedding at a remote castle.

But what we're interested in is the use of alchemical symbols. And here is my theory:

Going back to our assumptions, let's say for sake of argument that the genius (or geniuses) who placed something in the Money Pit at around the mid-1600s, wanted to impart some warning to any initiated party that might follow their clues to the Money Pit. They wanted to warn, but only warn those deserving of warning. So they used the one alphabet that only the truly initiated would use, that of alchemy. They encoded a message that warned not only of an impending flood, whose trigger lay just below, but also the way to turn off or block the flood (such a way was suggested by pouring grain or rice into the drain, which would expand and block or slow the rush of incoming salt water).

If this is the case (and I admit, it's a big if), then the possibility exists that there was an actual inscription on the original stone discovered at the ninety foot level, an inscription that seemed like gibberish to those who found it. Those excavators were so certain of reaching the treasure right way, that they paid little attention to the stone itself. Only after they were thwarted did they inspect the stone, but the engravings bore so little resemblance to an actual language that they felt it contained no help.

It's entirely possible that, by 1865 when the Creighton company desired a translation that would bolster their sales of shares for a new excavation effort, that no one could be found who recalled the entire inscription, or (equally possible) no one who was willing to divulge the actual message. I make an even wilder assumption that the Dalhousie scholar then did what any good researcher would do: he went 'round to the locals and asked them what they recalled. It's possible that they recalled a number of the characters themselves -- triangles, a circle with a dot in the middle, parallel lines -- but not the correct sequence nor the total inscription.

It's my guess that the scholar then used the symbols to concoct a message that was pleasing to his sponsors, one that promised imminent return on investment.

But if all this is possible, then it's also possible that the original message does indeed lie out there somewhere. It's possible that someone familiar with Oak Island -- Freemasons. neo-Templars, Rosicrucians or others -- may have a hidden copy of the original, and know full well the message it meant to convey. But since they have no way of gaining any treasure with the current situation (i.e.: they don't own the rights to excavate), they're content to sit on the message until -- well, until they're ready to reveal it.

I can't say for certain how much of this theory will be borne out by future evidence. I'm fairly certain that those in the know are quite aware that a different inscription does exist, but alas, I can't say I have any first-hand knowledge, only my intuition and a certain gut feeling, based on the way certain investigations have been politely turned aside.

If this explanation seems long-winded, consider that I have yet to talk about the Masonic tale of the buried vault, or the nine arches connected in a subterranean passageway with the Temple, or any of a number of other possible connections to the Oak Island deposit.

If there is anything to be gained from such theorizing, it may be merely this: a theory needs to be based on the evidence so far collected, then extrapolated to fill in the missing pieces. It needs to be based at least foundationally on the reality of the finds, the time period involved and the most likely possibilities. It needs to be examined, shot at, defended, explained and, most importantly, refined. It needs to be discussed and appraised from all angles.

So, have at it. Fire away at the theory. I'm willing to listen to any competing theories and, unlike Keith, I promise that you won't get drilled by accusations and character assassination. Although, like Dr. Mckay, sarcasm is never far from my reach.

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Your full of crap' go start your own thread and see if anyone listens to you, you parsite scab'
the money pit symbols dont look like alchemy wrtiting they resemble the smiths cove stone symbols.
and your assumtions are ridiclusly unfounded about the original symbols unless you got physical proof of what was on the original stone I think you should get lost idiot...and stop waisting people time.
you losser

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