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« Reply #420 on: November 08, 2007, 02:02:14 am »

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The story of the arc of the Ark of the Covenant apparently began after "Moses called all Israel, and said unto them, Hear, O Israel, the statutes and judgments which I speak in your ears this day, that ye may learn more, and keep, and do them." The fifth chapter of Deuteronomy goes on to state that "the Lord talked with you [Moses] face to face in the mount out of the midst of the fire."  One would logically think that the God of this infinite universe would find a more pivotal place to dwell than in a fitful fire on a dry dusty mountain on this paltry planet; but reason steadfastly bows to these suspicious words that are cherished by orthodox Jews and Christians today.


Nevertheless, speaking further on the Hebrew god's commandments, Moses went on to point out that "I stood between the Lord and you at that time, to shew you the word of the Lord, for ye were afraid by reason of the fire, and went not up unto the mount."  So, to solve this problem, he moved the fire god off the mountain down to the tribes, and he placed him between two cherubim on an oblong box with two carrying poles.


"What exactly these cherubim were, is impossible to determine," states The Catholic Encyclopedia, "however, from the analogy with Egyptian religious art, it may well be supposed that they were images, kneeling or standing, of winged persons.  It is worth noticing that this is the only exception to the law forbidding the Israelites to make carved images, an exception so much the more harmless to the faith of the Israelites in a spiritual God because the Ark was regularly to be kept behind the veil of the sanctuary.  The form of the Ark of the Covenant was probably inspired by some article of the furniture of the Egyptian temples."


Pictures of more popular, modern arrangements of the ancient Hebrew Ark or Arc of the Covenant found in bibles and elsewhere, are different. However, the angelic images or cherubim on top of the chests are certainly not accurate depictions of the ancient home of the Hebrew god Yahweh.  Why?

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« Reply #421 on: November 08, 2007, 02:12:23 am »

Regardless of the pretension of an "only exception," set forth by The Catholic Encyclopedia above, the answer lies in a full rendering of the second of Moses's Ten Commandments, which has been abbreviated and placed on popular plaques like the one above. Although the Hebrew light god is said to have forbade the worshiping of graven images by uttering to Moses: "Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me," this is not all of the Second Commandment.  These revered words, dispensing ruthless injustice on innocent progeny, are immediately preceded by those of Exodus 20:4, which command: “Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water below."


Furthermore, Deuteronomy 27: 15 says, “Cursed be the man that maketh any graven or molten image.”  Nevertheless, the pertinent point being made here is that the "graven or molten" angelic cherubim of the Arks  demonstrated in the popular versions shown in bibles, on TV, and elsewhere,  would never have been fabricated by the ancient Hebrews because the second commandment absolutely forbids doing so.


However, the two cherubim or two chunks of blazing carbon (if gold plated) of an electric arc light in the illustration would have nicely complied with the Hebrew fire god's restrictions.
The Old Testament book of Exodus, which describes the building of the Ark (Arc) of the Covenant in detail, points out that Moses assigned to the task craftsmen who were skilled in cutting stones (carbon included) and in working gold. The book says: "Thou shalt make two cherubims of gold, of beaten work shalt thou make them." Gold leaf can be beaten down to 1/250,000 of an inch, and it would have wrapped around the cherubim(s) or carbons easily. But why? The answer lies in the fact that gold would increase the conductivity of the carbons, and protect the ends of the carbons near the arc, thereby prolonging their life.
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« Reply #422 on: November 08, 2007, 02:15:13 am »

And the chapter goes on to say that "the cherubims shall stretch forth their wings [arcs] on high, covering the mercy seat with their wings, and their faces [ends] shall look one to another."  And Moses's fire god supposedly goes on to say, "I will commune with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims which are upon the ark of the testimony."  Furthermore, the 22nd Chapter of II Samuel describes the Hebrew arc light god by claiming, "He bowed the heavens also, and came down; and darkness was under his feet.  And he rode upon a cherub, and did fly:  and he was seen upon the wings of the wind." And, "Through the brightness before him were coals of fire kindled."  Here the wings on the cherubim (carbons) are more aptly explained, not as metallic wings, but as wings of the wind, the arc flashing through the air.  Fiery coals and carbons are synonymous.  Could one today explain any better the bright bowing arcs of the ancient electric carbon arc light?

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« Reply #423 on: November 08, 2007, 02:20:44 am »

The holy Scripture as well as other reliable written testimony still extant, and the hard evidence engraved in stone monuments, all strongly indicate that, for religious as well as practical purposes, priests like Moses and Aaron, who directed the course of beliefs and events in antiquity, illuminated their authority by conspicuously placing brilliant electric arc lights in their temples, churches, and icons.

To help make the point, here is an animated comparison of an ancient Egyptian iconic ark light god at the temple at Denderah and a possible depiction of the same type of god in the Hebrew Ark of the Covenant. The searchlight on the bow represents the radiance of the horned (powerful) light god in the center.


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« Reply #424 on: November 08, 2007, 02:25:39 am »

This animation of the ancient Egyptian ark (arc) removes all the molten images and likely depicts a more complete Hebrew (Jewish) arc light.  The serpent springing over the arc-light god's pedestal (the so-called "mercy seat") represents an undulating electric arc winging its way through the air between two carbons or cherubim,  The first electric light that the world ever saw was produced by lightning, snaking its way across the heavens; and the ancients naturally compared the undulating light of the celestial serpent to the slithering asp that can also strike mankind. The ancient Greek biographer Plutarch tells us in Moralia that the Egyptians honored the serpent, and, "They compare the asp to lightning."  So a manmade arc light and heavenly lighting are quite synonymous, both are electrical and often look and act like a serpent.



Furthermore, the yellow color of a cobra and a snake's hissing are quite comparable to some of the features of an electric arc light, not to speak of the hissing sound in the name Isis, the ancient Egyptian goddess of light.  Slingo and Brooker's Electrical Engineering for Electric Light points out that "The light emitted by an arc lamp actually approaches in quality more nearly to the solar luminous rays than does that of any other artificial illuminant, although the light of the arc itself contains in reality a larger proportion of orange or yellow rays than does the light of the sun."  In his 1905 edition of Electricity in Every-Day Life, Dr. Edwin J. Houston, a renowned authority and author of numerous books describing electric arc lights, tells us that "As long as the carbons [cherubim] are maintained at the proper distance apart, and are supplied with a current of constant strength, the arc will burn quietly.  If, however, these conditions are not maintained, various noises will be heard.  Where the distance between the carbons is too small, or where the carbons are so soft that comparatively large quantities of vapor are liberated, hissing sounds will be heard."



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« Reply #425 on: November 08, 2007, 02:37:23 am »

Speaking of the similarities of the ancient Egyptian and Jewish arks, volume one of The Popular and Critical Bible Encyclopaedia and Scriptural Dictionary states: "The points of resemblance to the Jewish ark, are many and conspicuous, as in the 'stand,' which, in some of its forms, and leaving out the figures represented on the sides, bears so close a resemblance to the written description of the Hebrew ark that it may safely be taken as an authentic illustration of its form."
Please watch picture for a moment.


According to Oxford Professor A. H. Sayce's Early History of the Hebrews, "Babylonia also had its arks [arcs], its mercy seats, and the cherubim [carbons], and Nebuchadrezzar speaks of 'the seat of the oracles' in the great temple of Babylon 'whereon at the festival of Zagmuku, the beginning of the year, on the 8th and 11th days, Bel, the god, seats himself, while the gods of heaven and earth reverently regard him, standing before him with bowed heads.' The cherubim, indeed, were of Babylonian origin, and their presence in the tabernacle seems somewhat inconsistent with the prohibition to make a carven image." Of course, Sayce was not aware that the cherubim were natural carbons which complied with Moses's Hebrew light god's instructions. We also should keep in mind that the Hebrew patriarch Abraham came out of Ur, a city of ancient Babylonia, so he may have been responsible for sending the electric light technology to Egypt, which in turn gave it to Moses and his Hebrews. The Babylonians may have gotten it from the Atlanteans, but that is another story.
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« Reply #426 on: November 08, 2007, 02:40:34 am »

a Babylonian version of the Egyptian ark with its electric carbon arc light. Note the dual-headed serpentine divinities controlling the searchlight while Shamash, the Sun god sits on the "second sun's" battery pack with a coil of wire in his hand and a carbon rod. For a detailed explanation and translations of the cuneiform writing on this artifact that dates back to around 850 B.C., see The Electric Mirror on the Pharos Lighthouse and Other Ancient Lighting. After reading a translation of the text that accompanied this strange artifact, found near where the ancient Baghdad batteries were discovered, you should have no doubt that electric carbon arc lighting was known and used in Babylonia.
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« Reply #427 on: November 08, 2007, 02:46:48 am »

For more on the Ancient Carbon Arc Light, go to :
http://ancientskyscraper.com/118901.html
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« Reply #428 on: November 08, 2007, 03:35:55 am »

Remember Nefertari's Headdress?
Looks like B to me!  Wiring schematics, bulbs and batteries at Denderah.



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« Reply #429 on: November 08, 2007, 08:34:12 am »

Hi Qoais

I think that there can't be that much coincidence. Electricity, power generation, when you think how long it took us to develop electricity, we can only go Back, way back in time. The knowledge must have passed onto new generations.

http://www.sheikmousa.com/images/arial-view-sinai.jpg

Amazing, enlightenment.  Cool

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« Reply #430 on: November 08, 2007, 03:26:56 pm »

Whatever she's carrying in her left hand, could possibly be a "ground-wire" so that the static electricy from the sand, didn't cause a short in her apparatus.  This needs only be a very fine filament wire, seemingly invisible.
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« Reply #431 on: November 09, 2007, 08:21:03 am »

Qoais,

I think, Ancient Civilizations, had already an "electric" knowledge and passed it passed onto Egyptians. I have reasons to believe Atlantis was might have been energetically sufficient, somehow, Iceland is going to be energetically auto sufficient in 2025. They have sound thermo energy (geysers) as well as wind potential. It could then be very possible for this knowledge to exist and to an unknown extent of sophistication. I am ,therefore convinced that this must be true. In fact, you have discovered (were you the first one?) an Ancient Electric System, more or less like the "Antikythera Mechanism". With no predecessor nor Successor. When i look at your pictures i convince myself that my theory might be right, please if you care to look at possible Atlantis Jewels found in connection to the Bock Saga, they really show some possible connections to what you are talking about. Thus, regarding an Older Age or, even Egypt's other contemporaneous Civilization. I thought i saw some kinds of electrical assembly. I will link it here, if you don't mind:


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http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/caboverdian/TheIsland03/photo#5125815156094220306
http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/caboverdian/TheIsland03/photo#5125840809933879394
http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/caboverdian/TheIsland03/photo#5125842704014456946
http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/caboverdian/TheIsland03/photo#5125842708309424290
http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/caboverdian/TheIsland03/photo#5125844658224576706
http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/caboverdian/TheIsland03/photo#5125844658224576722
http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/caboverdian/TheIsland03/photo#5125844666814511362
http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/caboverdian/TheIsland03/photo#5125846608139729170
http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/caboverdian/TheIsland03/photo#5125848648249194850
http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/caboverdian/TheIsland03/photo#5125848661134096802
http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/caboverdian/TheIsland03/photo#5125851208049703362
http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/caboverdian/TheIsland03/photo#5125860141581679218
http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/caboverdian/TheIsland03/photo#5125860137286711906
http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/caboverdian/TheIsland03/photo#5125860145876646546
http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/caboverdian/TheIsland03/photo#5125860145876646546



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Please tell me your opinion, i am not, in anyway an expert. Are you familiar with gold plate?

"Gold plating is a method of depositing a thin layer of gold onto the surface of another metal, most often copper or silver, by chemical or electrochemical means.


Gold plating
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« Reply #432 on: November 09, 2007, 08:29:07 am »

I forgot to include this:

[...]"Gold plating is often used in electronics, to provide a corrosion-resistant electrically conductive layer on copper, typically in electrical connectors and printed circuit boards.

With direct gold-on-copper plating, the copper atoms tend to diffuse through the gold layer, causing tarnishing of its surface and formation of an oxide and/or sulfide layer.

A layer of a suitable barrier metal, usually nickel, is usually deposited on the copper substrate before the gold plating. The layer of nickel provides mechanical backing for the gold layer, improving its wear resistance. It also reduces the impact of pores present in the gold layer.

Both the nickel and gold layers are usually deposited by electroplating. Electroless plating is used as well, however the deposited layer is unsuitable for long-term corrosion protection nor for wire bonding, as the resulting layer is typically only 97% pure and thin (0.5-0.75 µm). As the deposit is based on displacement of some of the copper, electroless nickel plating may be unsuitable for boards with very fine traces.

At higher frequencies, the skin effect may cause higher losses due to higher electrical resistance of nickel; a nickel-plated trace can have its useful length shortened three times in the 1 GHz band in comparison with the non-plated one. Selective plating is used, depositing the nickel and gold layers only on areas where it is required and does not cause the detrimental side effects.[2]

Gold plating may lead to formation of gold whiskers."[...]

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Stirling_Engine.jpg

I think i saw something similar on your pictures, sorry for being this vague, but, again, i am not an "expert".
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« Reply #433 on: November 09, 2007, 10:22:56 am »

Mario,

What does this head look like to you?

http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/caboverdian/TheIsland03/photo#5125846608139729170

again, larger:

http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/caboverdian/TheIsland03/photo#5125844658224576722

Also, what do you think of this?

http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/caboverdian/TheIsland03/photo#5128404059301034738
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« Reply #434 on: November 09, 2007, 02:02:41 pm »

Hi BlueHue
Not to worry.  I would like it tho, if you would put dates in your posts, because as I've said before, I can't keep the dates straight and who ruled when or what their numerous names were. 

So - this civil war - was at what date?  

Dear  QOAIS,


Civil WAR in Atlantis
was inbetween 1055- 50 bc which is also the time-span of Moses Exodus

in the Bible it said 40 Years !
I have sent a lengthy Private message explaining my Subscript in BLUE at the bottom of this Post   Thank You for reading it, and your nice comments     Sincerely  ' BlueHue ' dd. 11 nov. 2007  Sad. Sad

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 All the electric night lamps and the Flying Arks did not help Pharaoh Rammesses-2 to protect himself from the bad advice of Prophet JEREMIAS against fighting the Babylonians in jerusalem, nor did it prevent, recapture CARCHEMISH by king Muwattalis-Mursillis-2, whom Dr Velikovsky and several other scholars in his wake identified as NABO-POL-ASSAR.
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( Blue's)THEORY, locating"original" Atlantis( in Aden-Yemen.)
1: ATLANTIS =Fake=Latin name, original Greek: ATHE(=a Region in Aden)
2: Atlantic-OCEAN=Greek: RIVER-of-Atlas+also" Known "World-OCEAN(=Red-Sea)
3: Greek-obsolete-Numeral 'X' caused Plato's Atlantisdate:9000=900
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