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We have searched the Bible for possible mention of Atlantis and below we list and give brief reasons for the only major candidates we have found.

List of 34 candidates for Atlantis/Poseidonis island/city in the Bible:
Enoch city (Genesis)
Japheth (Genesis)
Magog/Gog/Rosh (Genesis 10, Ezek 38, Lxx, Revelation) **
Tubal (Genesis 10)
Tiras (Genesis 10)
Ashkenaz/Ashkuz (Genesis 10)
Riphath (Genesis 10)
Tarshish (Genesis 10, 2 Chron 9, Ezekiel 38) ***
Kittim (Genesis 10, ...) **
Havilah (Genesis 10)
Seba (Genesis 10)
Sabtah (Genesis 10)
Sabteca (Genesis 10)
Raamah (Genesis 10)
Tower of Babel (Genesis 10-11)
Great city of Asshur/Resen (Genesis 10) ***
Caphtorim (Genesis 10, ...) **
Philistim (Gen 10, Judges, 1 Sam) *
Canaan/Sidon (Genesis 10)
Elam (Chedorlaomer, Arioch, Jim Allen)
Almodad (Genesis 10)
Kedar (Genesis)
mountains of Seir (Genesis, 1 Chron 1-2)
enemies of Egypt (Exodus) *
far country (Joshua)
Ha-saponi (preprophetic/prophetic period, Spanuth) *
temple (Ezekiel, Alford)
beast/dragon/iron (Daniel, Revelation) *
army of locusts (Joel 2) *
quake (Amos) *
Nineveh (Jonah, Nahum, Zephaniah)
harlot Babylon the great (Peter, Revelation)
666/RoTaS (Revelation)
Abaddon/Apollyon (Revelation).

We have asterisked the most likely ancient historical candidates (excluding modern/future prophetic candidates). (No asterisks = least likely, 1 asterisk = possible, 2 asterisks = 2nd most likely candidates for the island, 3 asterisks = the most likely candidates for the city).

Evidences reasons for each of the 34 candidates:

Enoch city (Genesis):
Poseidon founded Atlantis before invention of sailing/ships. Cain founded Enoch before the flood.
Some equate Atlantis' sinking with the Great Flood.
Enoch has been compared to Tenochtitlan and Tiahuanaco/Tiwanaku/Wanaku (which latter is our Atlantis city candidate site).

Japheth (Genesis):
Japheth's descendents settled "the isles of the gentiles" which could match/include Atlantis.
Japheth had "10 sons" in some sources (though he has 7 sons & 7 grandsons in Genesis 10). Atlantis had 10 kings.
Japheth might match Poseidon of the Atlantis account.
Japheth's name meaning implies he is a inventor of technological and other advancements, which is similar to Atlantis seemingly being similar metal technology inventors.
Japheth/Diphath might match Thoth/Djehewty who is said to have come from a land in the west which is similar to Atlantis.
Some of Japheths sons and grandsons have possibe matches with Atlantis (see Magog, Tubal, Tiras, Ashkenaz, Riphath, Tarshish, Kittim below).

Magog/Gog/Rosh (Genesis 10, Ezek 38, Lxx, Revelation): **
We identify Atlantis capital city as Tiahuanaco in Peru.
Magog's name could match Manco Capac of Peruvian myth?
Magog's name meaning could match the Andes.
Magog is 2nd son of Gomer the 1st son of Japheth the eldest son of Noah, and he is the 2nd of the 70 nations of Genesis 10, so Magog is sufficiently early enough to match with the early/ancient Atlantis of the Atlantis Account ("Plato").
Gog and Magog in Revelation seem to be used for all nations in Revelation, which must imply some special reason (ie what historical connection does Magog have with all nations?) Atlantis is a power which seems to have had worldwide connections.

Tubal:
Tubal's name meaning is linked with metals. Atlantis and Tiahuanaco are assoicated with metals.
Tubal's name is similar to Atlas?

Tiras (Genesis 10):
Tiras' name could link with Tros/Troy or Atlas (r/l interchange)?
Tiras may mean "desire/longing" or "breaking" or "terrifying, fracture". The desire/longing could match Atlantis appeal from Plato to now. The breaking or terrifying/fracture could match either Atlantis sinking, or arrogant Atlantean invaders & slavers, or break up of the Aryan/Indo-European languages.
Tiras is one of the only Genesis 10 Japhethite nations to not be mentioned/identified/located in later Biblical books, which some suggest might mean that Tiras was in America (Atlantis). (Compare that Tiras is assoicated with 4 large islands [the west?] in [Jasher?])
Tiras is the last of the 7 sons of Japheth which could mean he matches the latest invasion or culture in preistoric European history.

Ashkenaz/Ashkuz:
Ashkenaz is maybe vaguely similar to Atlas/Atlantis.
Ashkenaz is the eldest son of Gomer the eldest son of Japheth the eldest son of Noah, and he is the 1st son of the 1st of the 70 nations in Genesis 10, which could match the Aryans or Atlantis.
Ashkenaz means "fire that spreads, fire as scattered, a man as sprinkled, sprinkled with fire".
Ashkenaz is associated with horsemen. Atlanteans had horse racing.
Ashkenaz's land/location is not mentioned, which might fit with a location in Americas/Atlantis.

Riphath/Diphath:
Riphath/Diphath is maybe similar to Posei-don/Potei-don/Neptune?
Riphath means "spoken" or "poundings/shakings" or  "health/remedy/release/pardon".
Riphath is associated with the sea Gihon or Oceanus in the Book of Jasher.

Tarshish (Genesis 10, 2 Chron 9, Ezekiel 38, Jonah): ***
Tarshish's meanings "stone/rock/hard" & "gravitational energy, precipitant force" might match the Megalithic/Heliolithic culture of Western Europe and Peru (where our Atlantis candidate Tiahuanaco is).
Tarshish is the "name of a sea 2000 parasangs wide" which could match the Atlantic ocean.
Tarshish was in the heart of the seas (27:25) which could match Atlantis?
The navy/ships of Tarshish (10:22, 2:16, 23:1, 60:9, 27:5) can match Atlantis.
One of Tarshish's suggested meanings "a destruction that breaks into pieces of white, ie white volcanic ash rock or pumice" is similar to Thera/Santorini which some suppose to be Atlantis.
Tarshish may mean rss/rasasu "mine" or "yellow/jasper", and Tarshish is associated with metals/silver/gold (10:22, 10:9, 27:12). Atlantis is assoicated with the metals gold, silver and orichalc "gold copper".
The kings of Tarhsish (72:10) could match the 10 kings of Atlantis.
The daughter of Tarshish (23:10) might be Tartessos?
Tarshish was a stronghold (23:14), which recalls Atlantis city.
Tarshish versus Ishmael/Havilah/Egypt (Book of Jasher 50:1-6) is similar to Atlantis vs Athens & Egypt?
Tarshish had merchant(s) & riches (27:12, 38:13), like Atlantis did.
Tarshish's meaning "hard, hardness, severity, breaking, broken, subdued, subjected" might match arrogant Atlantean invaders and slavers.
Tarshish is often supposed to be Tartessos. Tartessos is also sometimes compared with Atlantis.
Tarshish is decribed in one source as "a wealthy and flourishing seaport town", which sounds alot like Atlantis or Tartessos.

Kittim (Genesis 10, ...): **
Kittim were "invaders" like Atlanteans were "invaders".
Kittim were "western" like Atlantis is in the west in Plato. (Kittim might match the Western Neolithic culture of prehistoric Europe?)
"Ships of Kittim" might match Atlantis.
Kittim's name similar to Keftiou, Crete, and Clito (of Atlantis)?
Kittim/Kasdim called "bitter and hasty nation" might match arrogant Atlantean invaders & slavers.
There is no "and" between Tarshish and Kittim, which may mean either that Elishah and Tarshish are a pair, or Tarshish & Kittim are a associated. Tarshish and Kittim both have matches with Atlantis.

Havilah:
Havilah "circular", "twisting" could link with concentric circles city of Atlantis?
Cush could match the Indian/Hindu Kusa which some identify with South America which is our Atlantis island candidate.
Havilah is the land of gold and the 1st of the 4 world lands/rivers/ages in Genesis 2.
Some link Havilah & Pishon with Colchis & Phasis which Bailey located in the Andean region where our Atlantis city site is.
The other Havilah is a son of Joktan who has a similar number of sons to Poseidon in the Atlantis account.

Seba:
Seba "surrounds entrance" could link with concentric circles city of Atlantis?
Cush could match the Indian/Hindu Kusa which some identify with South America which is our Atlantis island candidate.
Seba is associated with traffickers, stones, gold.

Sabtah:
Sabtah "surrounded by clefts/fissures", "go about" could link with concentric circles city of Atlantis?
Cush could match the Indian/Hindu Kusa which some identify with South America which is our Atlantis island candidate.

Sabteca:
Sabteca "surrounded by what is laid down", "lead around" could link with concentric circles city of Atlantis?
Cush could match the Indian/Hindu Kusa which some identify with South America which is our Atlantis island candidate.

Raamah:
Raamah "lofty/heights" or "thunder(ous)" or "tremble/quake" or "horse mane" could link with Rimac/Lima or the Andes or Atlas or Poseidon (who is associated with horses and quakes) or Atlantis (quake(s)).

Tower of Babel (Genesis 10-11)

Great city of Asshur/Resen (Genesis 10): ***
Many translations have 4 or 3 cities of Asshur in Genesis 10, while some translations say "all these the great city". Translations differ on whether Asshur is the name of the land or the name of the founder (and whether the founder is Asshur or Nimrod, and whether Asshur is the Shemite Asshur or a name of Nimrod).
The "great city" of Asshur or the great city Resen in Genesis 10 is one of the only few cities called great in the whole bible, and this label/description could match Atlantis city.
The great city is sufficiently early enough in Biblical history to match the early/ancient date of Atlantis in the Atlantis Account.
The meanings of the names of the city or cities of Asshur seemingly may match with parts of Tiahuanaco & parts of Atlantis (in the 1 great city of Asshur scenario), or may match with 3 cities of Peru including Tiahuanaco/Atlantis city (in the 3 cities of Asshur scenario).
Asshur/Nimrod going forth out of Shinar into "Asshur"/unnamed-land is similar to Poseidon in the Atlantis Account, and Meski-aggaseir/Saggi-aggusheir going up into the mountains in the Sumerian king list.
For much fuller details and explanation see http://earlywritings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=7212 .

Caphtorim/Caphtor (Genesis 10, ...): **
Caphtor may mean "knob" or "capital (of column/pilar)", which meanings might match Atlantis (concentric city with hill in centre, pillar/pillars).
The Philistines came from Caphtor at same time the Hebrews'/Israelites' exodus from Egypt. Some link Caphtor with Keftiou and Atlantis. Caphtor matches the Assyrian Kaptara where they fished amber out of the sea where the pole star stands at its zenith, which Spanuth thought matched his Atlantis candidate Heligoland. The Philistines also have been connected with Atlantis (see next block).
Caphtor's name might be linked with Azores?

Philistim (Gen 10, Judges, 1 Sam): *
The Philistines came from Caphtor at same time the Hebrews'/Israelites' exodus from Egypt. Some link Caphtor with Keftiou and Atlantis (see previous block).
Philistines had a pillar cult in story of Samson, like Atlantis did.
Philistine fish god Dagon similar to Posei-d(a)on "lord/father Don".
Philistines are suggested to match the Peleset Sea Peoples. The Sea Peoples are suggested to match the Atlanteans.
Philistines had 5 cities. Atlantis had 5 x 2 kings.
Philistine giants had 6 digits. Pictures at our Atlantis city site Tiahuanaco have 6 digits.
Philistine means "immigrants/settlers/strangers".

Canaan/Sidon (Genesis 10):
Some compare Sidon with Poseidon.
Canaan had a similar number of sons to Poseidon in the Atlantis Account.
Canaanites "spread abroad".
Canaan means "down low" like Atlantis "sank"?

Elam (Chedorlaomer, Arioch, Jim Allen):
Jim Allen compared Ecbatana's design with Atlantis city and/or with his Atlantis site in Bolivia.
Elam's name is similar to Atlan-tis.
Elam's name means "age/eternity" which could match Atlantis of 9500s bc.

Almodad:
Almodad's name means "measurer" which might be connected with Atlantis? Joktan had a similar number of sons to Poseidon in the Atlantis Account.

Kedar:
Kedar of the Bible and Kedarus of Sanchuniathon are similar to Gadeira in the Atlantis Account.

mountains of Seir (Genesis, 1 Chron 1-2):
Seir &/or Esau/Edom is/are said to have gone up into the mountains in Genesis. The Sumerian king list gives very similar description of Meskiaggaseir/Saggiaggusheir going up in the mountains. Seir's name might match the -seir in Meskiaggaseir? Sitchin &/or other source suggests the mountains that Meskiaggaseir went up into are the Andes, which might match Poseidon in the Atlantis Account since we identifiy Atlantis city with Tiahuanaco.

enemies of Egypt (Exodus): *
Atlantis 900(0) yrs before 500s bc matches Moses 480 yrs before Solomon of ca 1000/900s bc. The Atlanteans were enemies of the Egyptians. Exodus says the Pharoah & Egyptians were afraid the Hebrews would join with their enemies (who are unnamed/unidentified).

far country (Joshua)

Ha-saponi (preprophetic/prophetic period, Spanuth): *
Spanuth associates the Ha-saponi "northerners" of preprophetic or prophetic period in Jewish source with the Sea Peoples and the Atlanteans.

temple (Ezekiel, Alford):
We are pretty sure that Atlantis city matches Tiahuanaco. Alford's book reckons the temple in Ezekiel matches or is a copy of the temple at Tiahuanaco.

beast/dragon/iron (Daniel, Revelation, Gildas): *
The beast has 10 horns/kings. Atlantis had 10 kings.
The beast rose from the Great Sea. Atlantis came from the Atlantic and invaded upto Italy & Egypt.
The beast is identified as Roman empire. Atlantis conquered upto Tyrrhenia/Italy.
The beast has 7/8 heads in Revelation. Atlantis is the "8th continent".
The beast was, is not, is coming. Atlantis was, sank, is "rising".
Daniel was a contemporary of Solon. Philo (who mentions Atlantis) was a near contemporary of John.
Atlantis is associated with iron age.
The wounded head could be Atlantis; the healed wounded head could be Atlantis rising.
All the world wondering after the beast would not be surprising if it is an Atlantis resurrected.

army of locusts (Joel 2) *

quake (Amos): *
The quake in Amos might be conected with the quake(s) in the sinking of Atlantis?

Nineveh (Jonah, Nahum, Zephaniah)

harlot Babylon the great (Peter, Revelation):
The harlot Babylon sits amidst many waters. Atlantis was a sea power.
The beast the harlot rides has 10 horns/kings. Atlantis had 10 kings.
The harlot Babylon was a commerical power overseeing global free trade. Atlantis was apparently a trading power.
The harlot Babylon is called "the great". We think Atlantis city might be the city of Asshur in Genesis which is called "the great".
The harlot Babylon is in the wilderness. The wilderness might possibly match the plain around Tiahuanaco?

666/TRS (Revelation):
666 in Hebrew and/or Aramaic numerals is RoTaS/SaTuR/TRS. TRS is similar to Tros/Troy or Artus/Arthur or Atlas with a r/l interchange?
Three sixes large medium & small superimoosed could match 3 concentric circles city symbol of Atlantis?
The Alternative 616 is similar to twin city symbol in Andean and other pictures which seems to be a symbol of Atlantis city.
Some sources also connect Atlantis with Golden Land & Saturnia & Chronian sea.
TRS was used as a code signal/password in Bridges book (Stones from the Sky?)

Abaddon/Apollyon (Revelation) :
Abaddon is similar to Poseidon?
Abaddon rises from Bottomless Pit. Atlantis sank and is "rising"?
Apollyon ~ Apollo/Hyperborea. Some sources link Hyperborea with Aryans and with Atlantis/Atlanteans.
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« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2021, 07:00:13 am »

Hey, Atlantis in the Bible is the title of my free online book. I am the specialist here. Your list is such a chaos. For example:

"Elam's name means "age/eternity" which could match Atlantis of 9500s bc."

The Bible doesn't mention this word eternity. You should use the word "aionian". Elam is Persia.

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« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2021, 06:52:05 pm »

Thanks Knakker.

That bit about Elam eternity is re the name/word Elam may mean olam "world" or "age/eternity" in Hebrew.
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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2021, 03:21:51 am »

Olam is the Hebrew equivalent for Greek word aion. See Helena Maria Keizer, Life, Time, Entirety. An aion is a vast periode of time with a clear beginning and an end. A more popular meaning of olam is "horizon". Then, we are close to the horizon in the west were Atlantis was located. From the one aion one looks over the horizon to the next one. I recommened you to read Bob Evely's book, At the End of the Ages. Aion means never eternal. I have explained before that the 9000 years of Atlantis were simply mentioned to exxagerate it's history. As the Egyptian Kings list was an exaggeration, to make the Egyptian history more impressive. Even the Septuagint which was written in Alexandria has exaggerated dates. Still the apostle Paul is quoting from it.

Now, Elam in the Bible is Persia/Iran. Since I am learning Farsi I know that elam means "to announce" in Farsi.

I am the world's authority on Atlantis. I know everything. First step is getting a good Bible. If Ephesians 3:9, 11 uses the word aions, then it is a good bible. If it uses the words eternity, world or even ages it is not a good Bible, no matter in which book shop you had bought it. For Atlantis research I recommend to use www.scripture4all.org

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« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2021, 06:42:10 am »

Another question:

The Bible says that some things are forbidden territory for us at least for christians. If Atlantis is a reverse Endtimes Babylon story, then the question raises: was I allowed to reveal this to the public? See Deuteronomy 18:10.

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« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2021, 12:18:49 pm »

Exodus 15, The Song of the Sea is about the southern dimension of the Atlantis Tsaphon system,

https://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/OTpdf/exo15.pdf

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« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2021, 03:56:46 am »

quote "I am the world's authority on Atlantis. I know everything."

"Knowledge puffs up, love edifies", "Pride comes before a fall". That will only put people off.
If you are an authority then you'd know Atlantis city is Tiahuahanco (if that is right as I'm pretty sure it is from all the evidences). Smiley

quote "The Bible says that some things are forbidden territory for us at least for christians. If Atlantis is a reverse Endtimes Babylon story, then the question raises: was I allowed to reveal this to the public? See Deuteronomy 18:10."

Don't worry humans can't push or stop things God doesn't allow them to.
You are not the only one. I have posted on the beast of Revelation/Daniel being Atlantis Rising myself.

quote "Exodus 15, The Song of the Sea is about the southern dimension of the Atlantis Tsaphon system,"

What is the song of the sea?

Pity this forum is so low at present. And the other one Atlantis Rising was removed.
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« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2021, 04:44:21 am »

It's your knowledge that puffs up, not mine. Tiahuahanco does not fit into any biblical scheme that falls within tsaphon. At most, Tiahuahanco is another stronghold of Baal Tsafon worship. If you don't know what the Song of the Sea in Exodus 15 is, then don't judge anyway.

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« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2021, 06:12:15 pm »

Well just have to agree to disagree. I won't reply to you anymore since clash. My ebook gives plenty of evidences and answers all the usual criticisms about Tiahuanaco (http://www.allempires.com/forum/ebook_view.asp?BookID=105) . You are free to believe what you wish. This forum seems dead at present anyway. All the best. Sean.
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« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2021, 03:54:26 am »

Judging from your table of contents, I don't give a cent for your book. Chapter 34 should have been Chapter 1. I don't see any thought or philosophy in your book. I miss the eons, the toledoth, the tension with Israel, etc. In the Bible, Babylon is the capital of every empire, including the Fourth and last. For that reason alone, I don't see why Atlantis would be in the Andes. In this way you are not adding anything to the Atlantis debate. You are the umpteenth researcher who searches for Atlantis with archaeological glasses. As a result, people like me are no longer noticed. You have completely understood NOTHING about Plato's story. Atlantis is much more than a bunch of ruins. Atlantis has to do with reverse creation, with polytheism and with the end of a world system. I am not at all interested in reading your book. And goodbye again.
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« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2021, 03:35:43 pm »

Its very sad that everyone is so anti. Its a wonderful discovery and yet no one cares, maybe its just because I found it not someone else (not that I care about my own credit, it is just frustrating that I can't find anyone to share and enjoy the wonderful find), though I give all due credit to a few others who also more or less found it at the same site before I did including Jim Allen who helped me narrow down from all the Americas to South America and Peru/Bolivia (and some others like Sitchin and Alford whose books helped even though they didn't realise it was Atlantis city), even though his city candidate is some kilometers south of mine. If people refuse to even read the ebook then they can't fairly judge because they haven't seen all the strong evidences. (Annoying that I did all the hard work for nothing.)

I'm sorry you feel that way, and I find it abit offensive though you haven't been overly rude just slightly. I respect that we just have different views/interests on Atlantis, mine is "archaeological" as you call it while yours is "theological" as you call it. As I said I do agree with you on some things like the connection of the harlot Babylon and/or the beast of Revelation & Daniel with Atlantis. I just don't agree that Atlantis is Hillah or Galilee, and that Tartessos is London/England (though Tarshish could possibly be), though that is archaeologically not theologically as you say.

Anyway sorry back more on topic I have added Atlantis in the Bible as a chapter to the ebook. As far as I can tell, of the 34 candidates the best two candidates for the historical city of Atlantis in the bible are Tarshish and the great city of Asshur of Genesis 10. Though that is only for the original historical city ("archaeologically"). I agree that prophetically/theologically Atlantis can also match Babylon or the beast of Revelation/Apocalypse. Some of the other candidates may also match but my main interest was the best Biblical match for the original historical city for historical/archaeological reasons.
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« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2021, 05:21:05 pm »

Tarshis cannot be atlantis because it was mentioned in ezekiel 38:13 as an endtimes prophecy. If Tartessos is tarshish, then it is england. if tartessos is not tarshish then i could agree with you that i am wrong. in that case it is maybe another reference to the mythical underworld on the western horizon. atlantis in the west has nothing to do with a physical island or with the andes. it was simply an inversion of the underworld and the western dimension of tsafon.
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« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2021, 05:05:50 am »

Two additions to the OP.

1. Scanning the Table of Nations of Genesis 10 candidates for Atlantis are:

(before Genesis 10:
Adam: Atlas?
Enoch (Cainite): Atlantis city?)

Japheth ("10 sons"): Posei-don (10 sons)?
Magog
Tubal: Atlas?
Tiras: Atlas?
Ashkenaz: Atlas?
Riphath/Diphath: Posei-don?
Tarshish: Tartessos? Atlantis city? *
Kittim (westerners, invaders): Atlanteans (western, invaders)?

Cush (Hamite): Kusa?
Canaan (11 sons, Hamite)): Poseidon (10 sons)?
Raamah (meaning, Cushite): Poseidon? Rimac/Lima?
Havilah (meaning)
Seba (meaning)
Sabtah (meaning)
Sabteca (meaning)
Nimrod (Cushite): Poseidon?
Babel (Cushite): Atlantis city?
Asshur/Resen (Cushite): Atlantis city? *
Caphtorim (Mizraimite): Keftiu? Kaptara?
Philistim (Mizraimite)
Sidon (Canaanite): Poseidon?

Elam (Shemite): Atlantis (Jim Allen)?
Aram (Shemite): Atlantis?
Almodad (meaning "measure")
Gether (Aramaean): Gadeira?
Kedar (Ishmaelite): Gadeira?

(after Genesis 10:
Seir (Horite): Meskiaggaseir? Scheria/Phaeacia?
Akan (Horite): Atlantis?
Aran (Horite): Atlantis?
enemies of Egypt (Exodus 1-2)
Ha-saponi (preprophetic/prophetic period, Spanuth)
far country (Joshua)
temple (Ezekiel, Alford)
beast/dragon/iron (Daniel, Revelation)
army of locusts (Joel 2)
quake (Amos)
Nineveh (Jonah, Nahum, Zephaniah)
harlot Babylon the great (Peter, Revelation)
666/RoTaS (Revelation)
Abaddon/Apollyon (Revelation).)

2. Scanning the bible for possible candidates for matching the Sea Peoples of Merneptah and Ramses 3 (which Sea Peoples may have been Atlanteans) we came up with this list of candidates:

7/"10"/14 sons of Japheth (Genesis 10).
Enemies of Egypt (Exodus 1:10).
Philistim from Caphtor at same time as Exodus (Deut 2:23).
Philistim/Philistines between Samson & David.
Kreti/Cherethites & Pleti/Pelethites of David.
Phoenicians arrival just before David & Solomon.
Libyans, Sukkim & Cushites vs Rehoboam (2 Chron 12:3).
Libyans & Cushites vs Asa (2 Chron 14:9, 16:Cool.
"no peace ... many disorders among all the inhabitants of the lands. ... nation against nation" in Asa's reign (2 Chron 15:5-6)? *
Alien residents in Asa's reign (2 Chron 15:9)?
32 kings vs Ahab (1 Ki 20:1, 22:31)?
Surrounding kingdoms of Jehoshaphat's reign (2 Chron 17:10, 20:29)?
Philistines tribute to Jehoshaphat (2 Chron 17:11).
Meunites/Ammonim & vast army or "large crowd from the region of the sea" vs Jehoshaphat (2 Chron 20:1-2). *
Ships of Tarshish of Jehoshaphat & Ahaziah (1 Ki 22:48, 2 Chron 20:36-37).
Hittite (2 Ki 7:6)?
Philistines (2 Ki 8:2).
Philistines & Arabs/Cushites vs Jehoram (2 Chron 21:16, 22:1).
Kreti/Cherethites/Carites of Joash (2 Ki 11:4).
Gath in reign of Joash (2 Ki 12:17).
Ha Saponi/Philistines ("Pre-Prophetic period", Spanuth). *
Philistines, Arabs & Meunites vs Uzziah (2 Chron 26:6). *
Earthquake in reign of Uzziah & Jeroboam II (Amos 1:1).
Army of locusts "probably during Uzziah" (Joel 2, Revelation 9).
Philistines vs Ahaz (2 Chron 28:18).
Desert of the Sea (Isaiah 21:1)?
Philistines vs Hezekiah (2 Ki 18:Cool.
Sea Beast (Daniel 7, Revelation 12/13/17, Gildas).
Gog & Magog (Ezekiel 38:2, Revelation 20:Cool.
Orichalc (Revelation 1:15).

The 3 or 4 best candidates are the asterisked ones (Asa, Jehoshaphat, pre-prophetic period, Uzziah.) (This would agree with the biblical Shishak being in the 19th dynasty not the 22nd dynasty.)

(It is intriguing that the "vast army" or "large crowd from the region of the sea" or  "great multitude from beyond the sea" of 2 Chronicles 20:1-2 is maybe similar to the "(North) Sea People(s)" or "(Foreign) Peoples of the Sea" or "Foreigners of the Sea" or "foreign lands of the sea" or "of the countries of the Sea" or "from the midst of the Sea" of the 19th & 20th dynasty of Egypt?)

In any case the Atlanteans must match one of the candidates in the list in the OP and/or the 2 lists in this post, with the asterisked ones being the best seeming candidates.
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« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2021, 07:51:28 am »

Please stop this crap and polluting the Atlantis discussion. Adam has of course nothing to do with Atlas who's bloodline was non-human. Atlas' father was Zeus, who was Baal Tsafon in Exodus 14:2. You should do systematic research to Atlantis in the Bible as I did in my book. Stop putting long lists of speculation on this forum. This has nothing to do with research.

To help you out: besiden Adam and Eve there was another creature in the Garden of Eden that had to do with Atlantis. But this creature is not on your long list. What to think of the serpent in Genesis 3....
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« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2021, 12:48:09 am »

Please stop this crap and polluting the Atlantis discussion. Adam has of course nothing to do with Atlas who's bloodline was non-human. Atlas' father was Zeus, who was Baal Tsafon in Exodus 14:2. You should do systematic research to Atlantis in the Bible as I did in my book. Stop putting long lists of speculation on this forum. This has nothing to do with research.

To help you out: besiden Adam and Eve there was another creature in the Garden of Eden that had to do with Atlantis. But this creature is not on your long list. What to think of the serpent in Genesis 3....


Adam and Alalus are similar, and Alalus and Atlas are similar, and Adam and Atlas are similar (both similar Ad/At names and both heading 10 patriarchs/kings, both before flood/sinking).

Tsafon/Zephon is Typhon not Zeus (unless Zeus is Teshub and Teshub is Typhon?)

I have done plenty of quality study/research and thinking and writing on Atlantis as anyone reading my Atlantis in Andes/America ebook would have to admit.

Please do not be so unfairly harsh. I always try to post quality, I am not perfect but I don't think I have posted any much bad threads/topics or posts. I could have said you have cluttered this forum with numerous questionable odd threads/topics in the last months. I haven't posted anything bad or off topic, and if I have or do post any much bad/wrong the moderators or admin/owner is perfectly able to warn me or suspend me.

Sure I post some lists but only necessary ones. I don't see why if people don't mind reading pages and pages of text only to get a few points why easy to see lists are so despised or hard to understand.

I don't see the Serpent (Nahash) of bible is any candidate match for Atlantis/Atlanteans, hence not in my list of possible candidates (which only includes more likely candidates).
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