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« Reply #45 on: May 12, 2007, 05:14:12 pm »

CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA                                                          continued

Spence assumes Antillia to have encompassed the region of the West
Indies.  Regarding timing, he tells us:

"...........that these two island continents and the connecting chain of
islands persisted until late Pleistocene times, at which epoch (about
25,000 years ago, or the beginning of the post-glacial epoch) Atlantis
seems to have experienced further disintegration.  Final disaster appears
to have overtaken Atlantis about 10,000 BC.  Antillia, on the other hand,
seems to have survived until a much more recent period, and still per-
sists fragmentally in the Antillean group or West India Islands."

As may be gathered from earlier comments, not everyone agrees with
Spence on this issue.  One tends to see Plato's Atlantis as being the
later survivor and the Antillian fragments as relating to an earlier cata-
clysm that left a series of islands stretching into the Atlantic between
the American coastline and the Atlantean mainland.

American Indian and South and Central American legends tend to support
this theory.
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« Reply #46 on: May 13, 2007, 02:41:09 pm »

FROM                                                                                                  continued

ATLANTIS: Myth or Reality?

Murry Hope

                                                         A F R I C A

A possible Atlantean connection with the Berbers of North Africa has already
been shown in their myths.  Bob Quinn emphasizes that part of their home
territory is a range of mountains known as the Atlas, while Ouzzin, a modern
Berber scholar, discovered an old Sumerian legend of a drowned civilization
that contained names that were familiar to him and his own culture.

The legend told of a princess called Tangis, who gave her name to the city
of Tangier, who was overtaken by a storm at sea and drowned. 

Her grieving husband instituted a search for her, which involved attacking an
island called Atlantis by means of an underground cavern. 

So strong was his attack that it precipitated an earthquake which caused the
whole island to disappear. 

The husband later became a hermit and spent his time sitting on a rock looking
out to sea until the spirit of Tangis finally called him to join her.

Quinn was particularly intrigued by the name of the husband - Lugal - which is
ever-present in Celtic mythology. 

The Irish Sun-God-Hero was called Lugh, his Welsh equivalent being Llew.

He gave his name to the major Celtic feast of Lughnasa or Luguasad, which was
celebrated on 1 August.  The cities Leyde, Lyons (Lug-dunum), London and, in
London, Ludgate Circus are among the places reputedly named after him.

The Canary Islands are believed to form part of a land complex that was origi-
nally attached to the African continent, as it is still connected to Africa's con-
tinental shelf.

This led Spence and others to believe that Atlantis might have been considera-
bly closer to Africa than Plato suggested, but I am inclined to the view that,
although the western coast of Africa did, no doubt, extend much further into
the ocean and encopass many smaller islands, it was not connected to the
Atlantean mainland.

The evidence suggests that Atlantean culture and learning probably found its
way into central and even north-west Africa, via Egypt and the trade routes
from the north-eastern regions.

Where else could tribes such as the Dogon of Mali, the Bambara and the Bozo
have gained their detailed knowledge of the Sirius systen?

Mooney insists that there was little trace of occupation in Africa south of the
present Sahara, until less than 10,000 years  ago, which he sees as being the
period FOLLOWING the catastrophe.

However, this is hardly as compatible with the currently favoured "Black Eve"
hypothesis, which views Africa as the ancient motherland of HOMO SAPIENS,
nor with the legends and history of the Bushmen and other tribes of the south.

Either way, howevcer, the peoples of that continent, wherever they lived, do
not appear to have been exposed to the Atlantean influence until just prior to,
or immediately after, the catastrophe, and then indirectly, which might be what
Mooney is implying.

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« Reply #47 on: May 13, 2007, 03:34:26 pm »


                                                      I R E L A N D

Irish legends concerning the arrival of the Tuatha de Danaans are often
believed to relate Celtic landings in those parts.

But since references in question, which were originally orally transmitted
and later appeared in the mythological cycles, refer to physical and geo-
graphical changes in the contours of that country, the dating for the arri-
val of the earliest visitors still needs to be questioned.

When the legendary Partholan arrived on the shores of Ireland, there were
"but three lakes, nine rivers and one plain".

But during the reign of Partholan and his queen, Dealgnaid (pronounced Dalny),
the land changed contour and a new lake was formed, which was named after
Partholan's son, Rury, as it was said to have burst from the Earth during the
digging of Rury's grave.

The Partholanians were eventually wiped out by what the legends describe as
"pestilence", which could mean anything in those days, but may have been
caused by the release of bacteria during some seismic upheavel.

The indigenous population who faced these presumed Atlantean arrivals were
the Formorians, who were by all accounts not the most prepossessing of peo-
ple.  How they fared during those violent climatic and geological changes, how-
ever, we are not told.

Next came Nemed and his people, whom we are given to believe were also of
Atlantean stock, being in some way related to Partholan.

The Nemedians had sailed for Ireland in a fleet of thirty-two barks, each of which
contained thirty persons, but because of appalling weather conditions, only nine
survived the journey.  In time, they too died mysteriously.

The next person to arrive in Ireland was Semion, son of Stariat, from whom des-
cended the Firbolgs and two other tribes that persisted into historic times.

The most mysterious of all Irish visitors, however, were the Tuatha de Danaans,
or fairy people, "from whom all Irishmen of learning are sprung".

It would seem logical that Partholanians and Nemedians could have been ordinary
folk who escaped the shores of Atlantis, either just prior to the Flood, or during
that period of chaos that reigned directly after, when the Earth was in the pro-
cess of settling down to its new orbit.

The Tuatha de Danaans, on the othe hand, sound  like Atlantean priests and
artificers from one of the more advanced colonies, possibly Egypt, Spain or Gaul.
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« Reply #48 on: May 13, 2007, 04:26:22 pm »


                                                 W A L E S

The Reverend Edward Davies, whose book THE MYTHOLOGY and RITES of
the BRITISH DRUIDS first appeared in 1809, expressed his famous "Arkite"
theory, in which he states that Wales had its own Noah in the person of
Hu Gadarn.

According to Davies, Hu Gadarn appeared on the western shores of Wales
around the time of the final sinking of Atlantis and, with the help of a magic
rite involving a team of oxen, contained the Flood and saved the lives of
his people.

In fact, the Hu Gadarn legend would appear to complement Plato's story re-
garding Atlantean bull cults so, whether Hu's arrival on Welsh shores actual-
ly followed the Atlantean inundation or whether he was simply fleeing from
the aftermath of the Thera, or similarly dated seismic disturvances, is open
to speculation.

The similarity between Hu's name and that of the Sphinx, would seem to
suggest an Egyptian connection; since Davies was apparently of the opi-
nion that the Celts originally hailed from North Africa, this is hardly surprising.
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« Reply #49 on: May 14, 2007, 08:05:26 am »


                      S C A N D I N A V I A   A N D   T H E   N O R T H E R N   R E G I O N S

We will not go into this in depth here, as much of it is discussed in the OERA
LINDA and Spanuth's ATLANTIS OF THE NORTH, all that needs to be decided
at this juncture is whether the Atland described in these documents was an
Atlantean colony or a culture that had developed along enlightened lines with-
out external influence.

The descendants of the ancient Frisians would, no doubt, argue the latter, but
the blood groups concerned could be seen as too much of a coincidence on the
one hand, while the description of those "tall fair strangers" would appear to
fit the ancient Frisians perfectly.

No doubt, it could also be argued that there were no tall, fair Atlanteans - only
Frisians who were the colonizers and bringers of civilization and learning.  But,
much as the morals and ethics of the ancient Frisian matriarchal system are to
be admired, it is not clear that the culture is synonimous with that of Plato's

The religious and technological differences were too accentuated to start with,
while the disparity between the dates rendered in the OERA LINDA BOOK and the
latest geological findings off the Scandinavian coast in the North Sea must be
taken into account.

The Atlantean influence in those parts would seem to be obvious and probably
dates back to the Age of Virgo, when Atlantis supposedly was at its best.

So, "good on"  Frisians for preserving its pristine quality and ethics for so long!


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