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« Reply #45 on: November 12, 2021, 05:17:21 am »

Something else: You slide with the location of Atlantis from Plato's directions. Nevertheless, you take the time indication of Atlantis in a gray past literally. You take one of Plato's directions literally and you slide the other. This has nothing to do with objective research.
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« Reply #46 on: November 12, 2021, 02:55:35 pm »

We can hold different views concerning Atlantis but messing with Plato's claims is simply messing with research.

I do not agree that I have done any messing with Plato's claims. The opinion that Atlantis was between Americas and Old World, and his Opposite Continent beyond Atlantis is Americas is only interpretation/opinion it is not actually stated as such in the Account and it is not supported by Atlantic Ocean oceanographical facts. My location matches most all of the details without any bending or twisting or forcing or cherry picking. The only detail that is not literal is the date, but it is still true and fits either way anyway.
But we will just have to agree to disagree as it is not good filling up a thread/topic with petty conflict. I acknowledge it is your view that Plato meant Americas, and even though I don't agree it is correct I acknowledge it could be possible.
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« Reply #47 on: November 13, 2021, 03:52:48 am »

Yes you are messing with Plato's information and you are missing the whole point of Plato's story. It is theology and you are still on the archeological trail.
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« Reply #48 on: November 13, 2021, 10:32:54 am »

Yes you are messing with Plato's information and you are missing the whole point of Plato's story. It is theology and you are still on the archeological trail.

I'm not messing with Plato's info. He says Atlantis was very large island west of Libya and that Opposite Continent beyond it. There is no large island in the Atlantic until you get to Americas.

The talkers in the Account say a number of times that it is true history not a fiction. It is not theology it is history. We have found the city and it matches, which confirms it.

Most of the world's ancient high civilisations are in the area between India, Greece, and Egypt. The only major ones outside of this area are Chinese, Mexican, Peruvian. Since Atlantis is west of Greece and Egypt, Atlantis can only match either Mexican or Peruvian.

Most of the world's ancient high civilisations are in the tropic of Cancer & tropic of Capricorn latitude bands (or "10 40 block" or "pyramid belt"). The only major one in the tropic of Capricorn latitude band is Peruvian. (If you trace on an atlas world map between 10-40 degrees south from west to east seeing what continents it passes through there  are only South America, Africa, Australia/Pacific.)
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« Reply #49 on: November 13, 2021, 10:57:49 am »

You are simply decveived in the same way as Eve was deceived. Good luck with your book. I do not give any penny for it.
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« Reply #50 on: November 16, 2021, 06:39:13 am »

Your Tihanuaco world is at least Post-Flood as the world before the Flood had completely wiped out.
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« Reply #51 on: November 17, 2021, 03:53:57 pm »

Your Tihanuaco world is at least Post-Flood as the world before the Flood had completely wiped out.

Yes Tiahuanaco is post-Noachian/Great Flood. But so is Atlantis: only Atlantis sank not the whole world; Atlantis was a separate landmass to Old World and Opposite Continent (while there was one landmass in Genesis 1, and the continents didn't split until flood or Babel or Peleg in the bible).

Tiahuanaco has an event described in very similar words to the "flood(s) & quake(s)" sinking event of Atlantis. They also have a version of Joshua's long day maybe-about the same date. Tiahuanco has matches for any/all of the proposed dates of Atlantis (9000 yrs, 900 yrs, 9000 months, etc).

There are two versions in Peruvian, one has Tiahuanaco before flood (matching Atlantis, and matching postflood copy/memory of preflood Enoch), other has it after flood (matching Great Flood). The legend of a lost sunken city of Wanaku in southern lake Titicaca also matches both Atlantis and the Tiwanaku. Huinaymarka name of southern Titicaca also means "eternal city", again relating to both.

I've just been looking for candidate matches and origins of the name Tiwanaku/Tiahuanaco/Tiaguanaco (Akapana, Kalasasaya, Pumapunku) around the world.

Biblical: Tubal (b/v/w interchange, l/n interchange, meaning/metals match)? Enoch? Asshur/Calah (matches with both Atlantis and Tiahuanaco in nature/meanings, called a "great city", compare Calah & Kalasasaya)? Anak/Anakim? Zoan? Tanak? Zion? Teman (m/w interchange)? Tubal-cain? Tiras (n/r interchange)?

Mesopotamian: Anaku "tin land" (compare Wanaku)? Iatukki (Dilmun land, compare Iatuk- & Tiahu-/Tiagu-)? Du-ku "heavenly mound"? Unug/Uruk/Warka (compare Unug/Warka with huanaco/wanaku)? E-anna/E-ana? Zi-ana "spirit of heaven"? Awan? Tianu/Tidanu (West/Syria-Palestine)? Dil-mah-ilani or Dur-ili/Dur-ilu or Dur-ash ("great fortified place of the gods", Dilmun, matches in nature)?

Transoxania/Turmenistan: Anau?
Indian: Dwarka?
Chinese/Taiwanese: Taiwan? Huanki? Tian/Tien "heaven"?
Maori/Polynesian: Hawa-iki?
Mexican: Teotihuacan? Tenoch(titlan)? Tehuantepec?
Peruvian: Wanaku (a legendary lost city in southern lake Titicaca)? Huinayamarka "eternal city"?
African: Tenbuch/Timbuktu?
Ethiopian: Tana? Ezana?
Norse/Germanic: Heaven?
Roman: Janicula/Janiculum (Dianus/Janus)? Tuscan?
Greek: Atlantis (matches in nature/details)? anax/wanax "king"?

So there is no doubt this city Tiahuanaco was early and reknowed around the world, and matches Atlantis city, and matches one of those Biblical & Sumerian names/places. Jim Allen and Zecharia Sitchin and me also showed other links of Andean with Sumerian.

The only major ancient high civilizations outside of the India, Greece, Egypt area are Peruvian, Mexican, Etruscan, Chinese. And we know Atlantis was west of Italy, Libya, Greece, Egypt, Asia, and so Atlantis can only be Mexican or Peruvian. Mexican doesn't match large rectangular plain surrounded by "highest" mountains. Peruvian is the only major civilisation in the tropic of capricorn latitude band or southern version of the norther 10-40 block (tropic of cancer latitutde band or pyramid belt).
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« Reply #52 on: November 18, 2021, 05:24:29 am »

"Biblical: Tubal (b/v/w interchange, l/n interchange, meaning/metals match)? Enoch? Asshur/Calah (matches with both Atlantis and Tiahuanaco in nature/meanings, called a "great city", compare Calah & Kalasasaya)? Anak/Anakim? Zoan? Tanak? Zion? Teman (m/w interchange)? Tubal-cain? Tiras (n/r interchange)?"

Oh please, stop this...
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« Reply #53 on: November 25, 2021, 04:42:16 pm »

Zoan was the city of Tanis in the Eastern Nile Delta. The Field of Zoan was the land of Goshen while Zion is the City of David outside the Haram Shariff.
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