the Egypt/Atlantis Connection

[Dawn Moline]

*The Egyptian priest Manetho, from the Ptolemaic period, states that Egypt was ruled by the gods, demigods, spirits of the dead for some 25,000 years (time given for Atlantis).
*The Egyptian priest Manetho refers to Auriteans (variation of Atlantean) as the the first of the god-kings of Egypt.

*Turin Papyrus record 36,000 years of divine rule before Menes, the first mortal king, 23,200 years before the Shemsu-Hor and 13,420 yearsm usually regarded as the followers of Horus (presumably, an elder god not to be confused with the more well known Horus, son of Osiris).

*The Atlantis story was originally told to Solon at the Temple of Neith in Sais, Egypt.

*The Cult of Neith (the Temple of Neith, of course, being the place where Plato originally heard the Atlantis story) was among the oldest Egyptian cults. In Saitic traditions Neith is the land of the south.

*The war between Athens and Atlantis included all the peoples of the Mediterranean, including Egypt (from Timaeus & Critias)

*Arrowheads have been found at the site of Helwan near Cairo, dating to 8500 b.c. (A curious blank for four thousand years occurs shortly after this for some four thousand years, perhaps "proof" of the war that Plato spoke of).

*Stone points (warheads) have been found in Egypt outside of Cairo dating to 8,500 b.c. (close to the era of Atlantis)

*Uninhabited when lands to the east and west had great surges in population at this time. It would make no sense that Egypt was uninhabited at this time.

*Allegedly Egyptian style artifacts have been found in Catal Hoyuk (settlement in Anatolia dated between 8,000 and 7,000 b.c. {close to the era of Atlantis}

*The Nile Flood plain has been thought to have remnants of an ancient civilization beneath it, buried beneath layers of alluvian (proof of a culture that dates back to the era of Atlantis).

*The Sphinx is dated by geologist Robert Schoch (conservatively) to an era of 7,000 b.c. to possibly 11,000 b.c (era of Atlantis)

*The Pyramids of Giza reflect the alignment of the Orion constellation belt in the year 10,500 b.c. (Robert Bauvall)

*The Emerald Tablet of Thoth (suspect though it may be) is a narrative that begins, "I, Thoth, the Atlantean..." and details his escape from that dying land.

*Psychic Edgar Cayce placed much emphasis on both Egypt and Atlantis (including a proposed secret chamber beneath the Sphinx's right paw. Sonar readings have uncovered a cavity, unexplored in that same area.

*The Inventory Stela refers to the Sphinx and the Giza pyramids existing at an earlier time than the pharoahs Khufe and Khafre (presumably the era of Atlantis), who are often credited with their building.

Anyone wish to add anything I may have forgotten..?

[Tom Hebert]

One can reasonably argue that the pyramids at Giza were built to withstand another Atlantean-type flood.

[Dawn Moline]

Hi Tom, this was actually one of my first posts in the Atlantis Rising forum (I started out in the Egypt section).  Peter V saw this and didn't see the correlation with Atlantis - when they think of Atlantis they automatically imagine it has to be some high tech society.  But, an advanced Stone Age culture would be just as impressive.

Arab scholars once said that there was a watermark on the halfway point of the Great Pyramid.  Since no mummies have ever been found inside any of them, the pyramids as a refuge against a great flood would actually be just as practical as anything else anyone has come up with.

Cheers,

Dawn

[Bianca]

Without referring to the Cayce readings, Dawn, I think you are right.

It seems that the King/Priest tradition was really strong in both Atlantis
and Egypt.  It makes sense to me that one or more Kings(s)/Priest(s) led
a group/groups to other colonies - same tradition among Central and
South America peoples.

These king(s)/Priest(s)  held the secrets of building and other knowledge,
together with their closest advisors.  The populace of course, was totally
ignorant and, once the kings died out or were vanquished by other tribes
or invaders (e.g. the Spaniards), the knowledge vanished with them.

I have never been convinced that the pyramids were tombs.  Just like you.

Love and Peace,
Bianca

[rockessence]

I see the pyramids as "devices"  or "machines"...for what I can't say.  The great pyramid is not actually a pyramid, but an octohedron, only half of which is visible, the lower half being formed by the placement of quartz at the opposing point of the top, which also had gold and quartz and probably lapis lazuli.  there was probably all three elements at all six points of the octohedron.   

Quartz crystal is a "sending device" with no characteristic of it's own.  The Lapis Lazuli bumps up quartz's sending ability by a factor of many thousands.  Gold strengthens that even further.   Quartz can be directed by thought..... so when the whole device is put into action you can see how it could easily be used to send messages immense distances.

[johnee]

After roughly about one hundred thousand years of ‘ice age’ the earth started warming 'abruptly' around 15.000 years ago. This is a known glacial termination, when large ice sheets, which covered significant parts of North America and Europe began melting as a result. A climatic optimum was reached about 300 years later, at around 14,700 years ago known as the "Bölling-Allerød".

Then, an event of extreme and abrupt climate change occurred, about 12,800 years ago, the earth once again returned very quickly into the near glacial conditions of the previous ‘ice age’, becoming cold, dry and windy and it stayed that way for about 1,200 years. This is known as the “Younger Dryas” named after a plant characteristic of cold climates, Dryas Octopetala found in Scandinavia.

Now after about 1,200 years of this “Younger Dryas” era it ended with the same spectacular abruptness and although the date cannot be known exactly at around 11,600 years ago as estimated from the annually banded Greenland ice-cores, the annual-mean temperature increased by as much as 10°C in 10 years.   

Although this example of abrupt climate change is best seen in the Greenland ice cores it occurred recently enough so that records of it are well-preserved and it has had very marked consequences over Europe and North America and left traces all across the world as far as New Zealand.


In Plato's account Atlantis was a naval power which conquered many parts of western Europe and Africa but failed in an attempt to invade Athens 9000 years before his own time – approximately 11,400 years ago. This was when Atlantis allegedly sank into the ocean "in a single day and night of misfortune", not too long after the abrupt end of the “Younger Dryas” event.
Logically there must have been huge glacial ice melts and increasing sea levels with temperature rises of 10°C in 10 years. The event of the abrupt end of the “Younger Dryas” was not the ‘deluge’ of biblical and Mesopotamian legend, that came much latter around 4,355 years ago just after the pyramids of Egypt’s IV & V dynasties but there is a connection.

With the loss of the Atlantis civilisation chaos entered the world, so the pyramids of Egypt were built to restore the planet’s balance and harmony, this also had an initial catastrophic side effect but the end justified the means.
The pyramids of ancient Egypt specifically the pyramid of Khufu is the biggest weapon of mass destruction ever conceived, mostly only the chosen survived.
Because it caused the ‘deluge’ but more than that, it reduced our span of days to a mere three-score years and ten before we have to live on borrowed time.

 
johnee

[johnee]

To continue…

The first empire established under the rule of Sargon of Akkad was between about 4300 and 4200 years ago on the broad flat alluvial plain between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers. Akkadian imperialism linked the productive but remote rain-fed agricultural lands of northern Mesopotamia with the irrigation agriculture tracts of southern Mesopotamian cities.

But after about a hundred years of prosperity the Akkadian Empire collapsed abruptly and archaeological evidence documents widespread abandonment of the agricultural plains of northern Mesopotamia and dramatic influxes of refugees into southern Mesopotamia, where populations swelled. A 180-km-long wall called "Repeller of the Amorites," was built across central Mesopotamia to stem nomadic incursions to the south. Resettlement of the northern plains by smaller, sedentary populations only occurred about 300 years after this collapse.

The stratigraphic level representing the collapse, at Tell Leilan in Northeast Syria is overlain by a meter-thick accumulation of fine sediments suggesting a sudden shift to more arid conditions.
Social collapse evidently occurred despite archaeological evidence that the Akkadians had implemented grain storage and water regulation technologies to buffer themselves against the large inter-annual variations in rainfall that characterise this region.

The onset of sudden aridification in Mesopotamia near 4100 years ago coincided with a widespread cooling in the North Atlantic, during this event Atlantic subpolar and subtropical surface waters cooled by 1° to 2°C. The headwaters of the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers are fed by elevation-induced capture of winter Mediterranean rainfall.
Analysis of the modern instrumental record shows that large (50%) year-to-year reductions in Mesopotamian water supply result when sub-polar Northwest Atlantic Sea surface temperatures are anomalously cool.

The aridification of Mesopotamia near 4200 calendar years ago may thus have been related to the onset of cooler sea surface temperatures in the North Atlantic, the ultimate cause of which has not yet been elucidated.
Equally obscure is why similar cooling did not trigger similar droughts.

The example of such a "mega-drought" and its dire consequences is particularly revealing of the vulnerability of complex societies to abrupt changes in our current climate. One would think that the last 11,000 years have been rather uneventful and this is quite true in terms of temperature changes in Greenland. However, we see here marked regional changes in precipitation spanning entire decades or even centuries in the above case and I have drawn your attention to it because according to legends this was the time and the place of the ‘Great Deluge’ That also coincides rather neatly with the construction of the Great Pyramids of IV dynasty Egypt.

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