What if?

[HereForNow]

  Of all the people in this forum, where is Jenny, Sandra, Stacy, Veronica, Trent, Dawn, Aristotle, Ian, and Chronos?

I really miss them. Those conversations were about what made this all great.
  Ofcource there are some good topics and the others are all awesome people too.
Yet I can't seem to not wonder about all my old friends. They were activist, and philosophers.
Dreamers and lovers. Seekers and disclosers.
 
Motivators of exploration and wonder.
It all feels like going to your parents house 20 years from now and finding it empty.
Like ghostly memories lingering of a once magical place of my youth.
  My how we have all grown......

Wind, No Thing, Brooke, Europa, and Volitzer seem to have that spirit. B and Q are still great refs....
What if we could get things back to what it used to be?

[HereForNow]

My apologies all. I just miss those people I mentioned.
They are dear to me, and I cherish those moments I had to learn from them all.

[Bianca]

HFN,


Life nowadays is pretty harsh and will get worse.


Perhaps they have no time to spare.


Thankfully, they created this haven for us......

[BlueHue]

NIBIRU was an errant Planet a wondering Planet Like
( Planet-)Hermes/= Mercury in the greek Myths was a" Messenger" of the Gods and wondered around touring the Solar System even colliding with the MOON.
So the MOON ( according to the World-Creation Myths,)was a wandering Planet too before it had become a captured sattelite of Earth.

The NIBIRU observations were perhaps 200 or 500 years older than the Library tablett found in the Assurpanibal-Library Chace,
So meanwhile after these obsertvations were recorded and stored the Moon had become stable and these" predictions" were obsolete.

All atlantologists have stated that our present MOON never left it's present course and find it impossibl;e to believe that MOON is NIBIRU.
Some even refuse to read my explanation as if NIBIRU believers have more credit than those who wrote of the Earth-Fall of archangel" Lucifer"

The fall of the Moon has been described under several names but If you don't believe it happend and refuse to read the appropriate explanation ?
The fall of the MOON is even an accredited part of our Christian believes/CREED how many times must I tell that SATAN/=Seth was the MOON ?
Where does it say that the MOON fell to Earth ? it's all in the Bible, but I can't remember Chapter and Verse so why bother to tell a disbeliever?

Sincerely " Blue Hue " dd 29 may--2009

I agree. If eventually, that truth will surface. It will rewrite recent history and give key insights into what the distant past was all about. Everyday history is being rewritten.

[unknown]

Of all the people in this forum, where is Jenny, Sandra, Stacy, Veronica, Trent, Dawn, Aristotle, Ian, and Chronos?

I really miss them. Those conversations were about what made this all great.
  Ofcource there are some good topics and the others are all awesome people too.
Yet I can't seem to not wonder about all my old friends. They were activist, and philosophers.
Dreamers and lovers. Seekers and disclosers.
 
Motivators of exploration and wonder.
It all feels like going to your parents house 20 years from now and finding it empty.
Like ghostly memories lingering of a once magical place of my youth.
  My how we have all grown......

Wind, No Thing, Brooke, Europa, and Volitzer seem to have that spirit. B and Q are still great refs....
What if we could get things back to what it used to be?

I quite agree, HereForNow. I tried to get some conversations going when the forum first started back up and Dawn created a lot of discusion threads, and still does every once in a while. But for some reason they don't seem to take like they did at AR.

Perhaps I am overstating the case but, I can't help thinking that it had something to do with the atmosphere in the country. I know personally that under the Bush Administration I felt a repressive atmosphere, it seemed harder to speak out, even over mundane and non-political things.

Though it is at those times, when liberty is threatened, that it is the most important to voice dissent. I have more sympathy for the German people now... I can see how they were swept along, slowly at first, under the guise of patriotism until it was too late. Until, before they realized it, they were living in the midst of a police state where dissent was equivalent to treason. It wasn't that the people desired the unspeakable evils that were to follow, but a government of corrupt, unbalanced and power hungry men forced it upon them, through peer pressure, propaganda and the threat of imprisonment, torture and death.

I think we should have learned something from the Bush administration, i. e. how easily the shroud of silence falls, just how powerful and overwhelming propaganda can be, and to never trust anyone in authority just because they are in authority. It is a warning and a wake up call, a dress rehearsal for the future.

[HereForNow]

We are change-
We are light-
We are able to overcome all things-

  So why haven't we?
On behalf of those who haven't been here. I think it's time folks.
We must fight back or they are going to tread all over us.

[Volitzer]

Luciem Ferre was a Venusian and has nothing to do with Satan and is never mentioned in the Bible.

We have some mixed up mythology.

[Sarah]

Of all the people in this forum, where is Jenny, Sandra, Stacy, Veronica, Trent, Dawn, Aristotle, Ian, and Chronos?

I really miss them. Those conversations were about what made this all great.
  Ofcource there are some good topics and the others are all awesome people too.
Yet I can't seem to not wonder about all my old friends. They were activist, and philosophers.
Dreamers and lovers. Seekers and disclosers.
 
Motivators of exploration and wonder.
It all feels like going to your parents house 20 years from now and finding it empty.
Like ghostly memories lingering of a once magical place of my youth.
  My how we have all grown......

Wind, No Thing, Brooke, Europa, and Volitzer seem to have that spirit. B and Q are still great refs....
What if we could get things back to what it used to be?

Bianca is correct, life intrudes, far too much, it seems.  First, there was the matter of building the forum "up."  Many of us here are perfectionists and wanted to make it the best. Now that it is built up (and the best), an argument can be made that we have more free time.

However, miss one another as we sometimes do,  never forget that we also have many new members here that might also be worth a look.

Sarah

[HereForNow]

(((((Hugs)))) Sarah.
Your right. I should do this.



Volitzer, do you have a history of this all that you would like to enlighten everyone too bro?

[HereForNow]

Unknown- How are you?

[HereForNow]

Of all the people in this forum, where is Jenny, Sandra, Stacy, Veronica, Trent, Dawn, Aristotle, Ian, and Chronos?

I really miss them. Those conversations were about what made this all great.
  Ofcource there are some good topics and the others are all awesome people too.
Yet I can't seem to not wonder about all my old friends. They were activist, and philosophers.
Dreamers and lovers. Seekers and disclosers.
 
Motivators of exploration and wonder.
It all feels like going to your parents house 20 years from now and finding it empty.
Like ghostly memories lingering of a once magical place of my youth.
  My how we have all grown......

Wind, No Thing, Brooke, Europa, and Volitzer seem to have that spirit. B and Q are still great refs....
What if we could get things back to what it used to be?

I quite agree, HereForNow. I tried to get some conversations going when the forum first started back up and Dawn created a lot of discusion threads, and still does every once in a while. But for some reason they don't seem to take like they did at AR.

Perhaps I am overstating the case but, I can't help thinking that it had something to do with the atmosphere in the country. I know personally that under the Bush Administration I felt a repressive atmosphere, it seemed harder to speak out, even over mundane and non-political things.

Though it is at those times, when liberty is threatened, that it is the most important to voice dissent. I have more sympathy for the German people now... I can see how they were swept along, slowly at first, under the guise of patriotism until it was too late. Until, before they realized it, they were living in the midst of a police state where dissent was equivalent to treason. It wasn't that the people desired the unspeakable evils that were to follow, but a government of corrupt, unbalanced and power hungry men forced it upon them, through peer pressure, propaganda and the threat of imprisonment, torture and death.

I think we should have learned something from the Bush administration, i. e. how easily the shroud of silence falls, just how powerful and overwhelming propaganda can be, and to never trust anyone in authority just because they are in authority. It is a warning and a wake up call, a dress rehearsal for the future.

This is exactly what everyone in the blogs of myspace are talking about as well.
Even facebook and other social sights are discussing.

Again, I am taking part in the disclosure process and I'm ready for "other" action that is not internet related.
The 4th of July a group of us are rallying together here in town to adress the lies. LOL
I can't wait 

Already our number is about 60 people and we are beginning our march on 42nd and state street and will continue all the way down state street to Dobbins landing (Center of town) to the place where Erie PA began.
My brother is loaning me his megaphone and I'm going to do the Alex Jones thing, and we are going to peacefully protest the suppression of information about NWO, UFO's, Obama, and The Federal reserve Auditing....
It will be a first for this city and I know for sure it will make local news & YouTube.
 

I'm so tired of talking and doing nothing to change anything. Most of the people that are supporting this act were rallied together through the younger adults in this town that I spoke to about this and they recently told me that they want this. I also have several people in my age group that want to see this city's reaction to our march for freedom.
I instructed people to find things to quote in the declairation of independence, and civil rights.
I also asked that they make banners.
Enough is enough and I'm taking my personal fight to the streets of my own town to hopefully wake people up here in Erie to what is going on. I shocked at the responce I have had to this and I can't beleive that my community is standing behind me on this.
They asked me when, and I told them we are going to do one on the 4th of July.

It really excited alot of people and it's happening.
I am going to pick a fight with the United States on it's birthday in the name of all our country used to stand for. After all we have the right to exercise peaceful protest, and freedom of expression. Well America, let's get to it......

[Bianca]

 F R O M


PRAVDA - RUSSIA








                                           American capitalism gone with a whimper 






27.04.2009
Source:
Pravda.Ru           
 
It must be said, that like the breaking of a great dam, the American decent into Marxism is happening with breath taking speed, against the back drop of a passive, hapless sheeple, excuse me dear reader, I meant people.

True, the situation has been well prepared on and off for the past century, especially the past twenty years. The initial testing grounds was conducted upon our Holy Russia and a bloody test it was. But we Russians would not just roll over and give up our freedoms and our souls, no matter how much money Wall Street poured into the fists of the Marxists.

Those lessons were taken and used to properly prepare the American populace for the surrender of their freedoms and souls, to the whims of their elites and betters.

First, the population was dumbed down through a politicized and substandard education system based on pop culture, rather then the classics. Americans know more about their favorite TV dramas then the drama in DC that directly affects their lives. They care more for their "right" to choke down a McDonalds burger or a BurgerKing burger than for their constitutional rights. Then they turn around and lecture us about our rights and about our "democracy". Pride blind the foolish.

Then their faith in God was destroyed, until their churches, all tens of thousands of different "branches and denominations" were for the most part little more then Sunday circuses and their televangelists and top protestant mega preachers were more then happy to sell out their souls and flocks to be on the "winning" side of one pseudo Marxist politician or another. Their flocks may complain, but when explained that they would be on the "winning" side, their flocks were ever so quick to reject Christ in hopes for earthly power. Even our Holy Orthodox churches are scandalously liberalized in America.

The final collapse has come with the election of Barack Obama. His speed in the past three months has been truly impressive. His spending and money printing has been a record setting, not just in America's short history but in the world. If this keeps up for more then another year, and there is no sign that it will not, America at best will resemble the Wiemar Republic and at worst Zimbabwe.

These past two weeks have been the most breath taking of all. First came the announcement of a planned redesign of the American Byzantine tax system, by the very thieves who used it to bankroll their thefts, loses and swindles of hundreds of billions of dollars. These make our Russian oligarchs look little more then ordinary street thugs, in comparison. Yes, the Americans have beat our own thieves in the shear volumes.

Should we congratulate them?

[Bianca]

These men, of course, are not an elected panel but made up of appointees picked from the very financial oligarchs and their henchmen who are now gorging themselves on trillions of American dollars, in one bailout after another. They are also usurping the rights, duties and powers of the American congress (parliament). Again, congress has put up little more then a whimper to their masters.

Then came Barack Obama's command that GM's (General Motor) president step down from leadership of his company. That is correct, dear reader, in the land of "pure" free markets, the American president now has the power, the self given power, to fire CEOs and we can assume other employees of private companies, at will. Come hither, go dither, the centurion commands his minions.

So it should be no surprise, that the American president has followed this up with a "bold" move of declaring that he and another group of unelected, chosen stooges will now redesign the entire automotive industry and will even be the guarantee of automobile policies. I am sure that if given the chance, they would happily try and redesign it for the whole of the world, too. Prime Minister Putin, less then two months ago, warned Obama and UK's Blair, not to follow the path to Marxism, it only leads to disaster. Apparently, even though we suffered 70 years of this Western sponsored horror show, we know nothing, as foolish, drunken Russians, so let our "wise" Anglo-Saxon fools find out the folly of their own pride.

Again, the American public has taken this with barely a whimper...but a "freeman" whimper.

So, should it be any surprise to discover that the Democratically controlled Congress of America is working on passing a new regulation that would give the American Treasury department the power to set "fair" maximum salaries, evaluate performance and control how private companies give out pay raises and bonuses? Senator Barney Franks, a social pervert basking in his homosexuality (of course, amongst the modern, enlightened American societal norm, as well as that of the general West, homosexuality is not only not a looked down upon life choice, but is often praised as a virtue) and his Marxist enlightenment, has led this effort. He stresses that this only affects companies that receive government monies, but it is retroactive and taken to a logical extreme, this would include any company or industry that has ever received a tax break or incentive.

The Russian owners of American companies and industries should look thoughtfully at this and the option of closing their facilities down and fleeing the land of the Red as fast as possible. In other words, divest while there is still value left.

The proud American will go down into his slavery with out a fight, beating his chest and proclaiming to the world, how free he really is. The world will only snicker.



Stanislav Mishin





The article has been reprinted with the kind permission from the author and originally appears on his blog,

Mat Rodina



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[HereForNow]

This is my attempt to rally the people.....

A bulletin:



ATTN. ERIE PA<------>Rally together. What, no balls?
 
Body:  I am calling everyone in Erie PA to come and rally together on the Forth of July. We want truth. We want to continue being free. 38th & State to dobbin's landing. If you are tired of our government, the suppression of truth. If you are tired of being bullied by the Very Elite of this world, and sick of paying taxes that aren't represented by anything. If you are ready for the truth about UFO's and USO's, or ready for the truth about anything you can think of.

DEMAND IT.........

Forth of July everyone.
Let me know if you are interested.
March for freedom- Act 1
 
 









Or you can settle for this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIi8nOt7i3o&feature=player_embedded

[Jennifer O'Dell]

I would sure like someone to release the truth about UFOs.  Clinton promised to release it all and didn't either. Maybe they hide things even from the President, the Air Force and CIA.

As for the death of American capitalism - good riddance.  Why do we support this crappy system?  ALl it does is make the rich richer and exploit the poor.  The damned banks control everything.  To hell with them.

In Sweden and Germany, they look out for  their people.  Health care is included in what they pay for taxes, they have health care (even nanny care) for new mothers.  And, when companies lay people off, or cuts their hours, the government steps in to make up the difference in pay. 

Our whole system is complete bull ****, the only people that benefit are the filthy rich.