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HereForNow
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« Reply #165 on: June 12, 2009, 12:16:54 pm »

Tea-party with dollars instead of tea..
We'll all mail it to china and tell them, "Here you go"....
Every dime!


To keep them from saying we owe them.
 Wink

We gave you everything we had.
Take it.


How?From where?Cut from space program, medical care, sell White House?


Ofcourse I know that NO ONE is going to give up all there assets.
I also know that parting with all their money is more important to them then freedom. REAL FREEDOM from all of this chaos. Sure it's hard. Sure we are convinced we need all these things.
However these are the very things that ENSLAVE US.
They are the reason there is an NWO, IRS, CIA, FBI, and so on.
MONEY is BEHIND all of this. Why?

GREED, CORRUPTION, LUST for POWER and everything that money can make other people do.
Yet WE can't seem to stop using it. Circulating it. Looking for ways to find more of it.
We aren't going to know what change is until we do this one thing for our own immortal souls.
FREE  OURSELVES FROM ALL WORLDLY THINGS..............................

Then we can know what that other side of ourselves is.

 The CREATIVE SIDE. The INTUITIVE SIDE.
THE BETTER QUALITIES.

We are wasting our times contributing to living the way we are. Depending on our abilities to have more money, is all the energy we are putting toward our understanding of all things?
We can't depend on this one thing, called money to have a life.
Knowing things like compassion, and unconditional love is limited to our abilities to focas souly on the greater purpose of our collective being.


We have to think outside the box.


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Now try to connect all these dots using one line without lifting your pencil.
4 lines is your clue.
If you have never done this before then I must tell you. It is not as easy as you think.
Yet it CAN be done.


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« Reply #166 on: June 12, 2009, 12:35:55 pm »

Tea-party with dollars instead of tea..
We'll all mail it to china and tell them, "Here you go"....
Every dime!


To keep them from saying we owe them.
 Wink

We gave you everything we had.
Take it.


How?From where?Cut from space program, medical care, sell White House?
Wink Or you can send nuks.LOL.
It is joke, don't do that.
You will see, it will be OK, after NWO plan colapse.
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« Reply #167 on: June 12, 2009, 05:13:17 pm »

Well just in case, here's plan B.
 Grin
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« Reply #168 on: June 12, 2009, 06:22:27 pm »

Well just in case, here's plan B.
 Grin

LMAO. Grin
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« Reply #169 on: June 13, 2009, 05:20:19 pm »

We could pay off China just by upgrading their plumbing.
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« Reply #170 on: June 13, 2009, 06:02:29 pm »

We could pay off China just by upgrading their plumbing.
And they don't nead nuks.They can just jump from chair to ground, all of them in same time.The China syndrome.
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« Reply #171 on: June 13, 2009, 07:53:41 pm »

We could pay off China just by upgrading their plumbing.

Yeah, they don't have any plumbing over there, very backwards people.  If they are going to be the top world power in this century as all the experts seem to think they'll be, the first thing they might want to do is get with the twentieth century first.
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« Reply #172 on: June 13, 2009, 08:03:11 pm »

They have plumbing.  Westerners just aren't used to squatting over a hole in the floor - well, there's a minority that might be accustomed to such luxuries Cheesy  Or maybe not - that would be cruel and unusual punishment even if you are a murderer.
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« Reply #173 on: June 13, 2009, 09:24:57 pm »

We could pay off China just by upgrading their plumbing.

Yeah, they don't have any plumbing over there, very backwards people.  If they are going to be the top world power in this century as all the experts seem to think they'll be, the first thing they might want to do is get with the twentieth century first.
Or they can just take yours by proclaiming U.S. of China.Remember that that Nation exist much, much longer then U.S.Thay have histori and culture above many Nations.

              
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« Reply #174 on: June 13, 2009, 10:04:08 pm »

We could pay off China just by upgrading their plumbing.

Yeah, they don't have any plumbing over there, very backwards people.  If they are going to be the top world power in this century as all the experts seem to think they'll be, the first thing they might want to do is get with the twentieth century first.

You think those living in rural areas of China actually have toilets and modern plumbing and electricity ??   Roll Eyes

The point is that America could pay-off its debts via labor barter and upgrade the average Chinese standard of living.  A Chinese middle class will be able to buy from America rather than having this current trade imbalance.
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« Reply #175 on: June 13, 2009, 11:41:41 pm »

 Lips sealed


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« Reply #176 on: June 14, 2009, 01:04:37 am »

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You think those living in rural areas of China actually have toilets and modern plumbing and electricity ??   

The point is that America could pay-off its debts via labor barter and upgrade the average Chinese standard of living.  A Chinese middle class will be able to buy from America rather than having this current trade imbalance.
 

Dream on.  The Chinese already have too many workers, why would they let Americans come in and take their jobs?  What has America got that they would want to buy?  They already make everything you have and they make it cheaper than you do.

When I was young, we lived without modern plumbing and electricity.  We had an outhouse, and we hauled the water and heated it on the stove for pretty much everything.  A wood stove it was.  We got electricity first, and many years later, had a bathroom installed in the house.  It wasn't so bad.
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« Reply #177 on: June 14, 2009, 02:06:07 am »

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Dream on.  The Chinese already have too many workers, why would they let Americans come in and take their jobs?  What has America got that they would want to buy?  They already make everything you have and they make it cheaper than you do.

You're darn right they do!  And that didn't happen yesterday, with Obama.

You can blame Reagan, the Bushes and Bill Clinton for the selling out of America cause it all happened under their "watch."  If there has been any ruining of this country, they were the ones to do it.
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« Reply #178 on: June 15, 2009, 04:52:30 am »

I won't dispute that any Bryan.

They did their part to ensure mutual destruction.
Now we have Obama. Seemingly a nice fella with a good speech and comes across as a smart guy.
Now he has inherited this whole mess that these others you mentioned created.

Just what do you think 4 years in office will accomplish in resolving these issues that have been created over the last twenty or more years?
No pun toward you young man. However, we have to look at the bottom line and how these things have already effected them. Let's look at the false unemployment rates. Number of foreclosures, in relation to resales. Contradictions from Obama about his plans in 2007 that changed in 2008.
And a list that at the moment I feel to lazy to type out in it's entirety. There is just to much against policies to mention.


I have a friend on myspace that is an actual Free-mason.
Even he has mentioned on numerous occasions that our way of life is going to take a hard turn for the worst if we don't reinvent the America that we once had.
Now mind you that this is from someone who is one of this country's elite. "Jerry"

http://www.myspace.com/wizardpsychometry


Yet as I stated, our conversation is evidence that even he sees that something in what we are hearing and seeing is part of a trend that will eventually lead us into a depression.
Now all Obama bashing aside. What can we do as individuals to reinvent the greatness of this country?
I mean it has to be up to us, because to date. Nothing that any politician has done is going to make any difference in making the lives of the bottom line in this country better. Nothing is going to recover if jobs aren't produced. And nothing is going to increase revenues until the economy recovers. What we have here is a catch 22....

This is why it is up to us.
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« Reply #179 on: June 15, 2009, 05:24:58 am »

 Vice President Joe Biden said Sunday that "everyone guessed wrong" on the impact of the economic stimulus, but he defended the administration's spending designed to combat rising joblessness.

Biden said inaccuracies in unemployment predictions shouldn't undercut the White House's support of the $787 billion economic revival plan that has not met the expectations of President Obama's team. Instead, the vice president urged skeptics to look at teachers who kept their classroom assignments and police officers who kept their beats because of financial assistance from Washington.

"The bottom line is that jobs are being created that would not have been there before," Biden said.

But they are not coming at the pace first estimated.

Just 10 days before taking office, Obama's top economic advisers released a report predicting unemployment would remain at 8 percent or below through this year if an economic stimulus plan won congressional approval.

Yet the Bureau of Labor Statistics reports that unemployment in May rose to 9.4 percent.

Biden said the White House is keenly aware of the gap between the rhetoric used to sell fast passage of the legislation and the reality that has 14.5 million people unemployed. The administration had predicted that the stimulus bill would create or save as many as 3.5 million jobs.

"No one realized how bad the economy was. The projections, in fact, turned out to be worse. But we took the mainstream model as to what we thought and everyone else thought the unemployment rate would be," Biden said.

Those projects came from a report co-written by Biden's chief economist, Jared Bernstein. Last week, Bernstein briefed reporters on the stimulus spending and insisted the report was in line with others' research, but not aligned with reality.

"At the time our forecast seemed reasonable. Now, looking back, it was clearly too optimistic," he told reporters last Monday.

The White House has tapped Biden as its chief spokesman on that economic stimulus plan, sending him across the country to drum up support for a plan that has yet to make the impact it promised. On Thursday and Friday, Biden visited Pennsylvania, Kansas and Michigan to highlight projects the stimulus has funded.

The vice president said losses each month have dropped, although the economy is still losing jobs.

"Can I claim credit that all of that's due to the recovery package? No. But it clearly has had an impact," Biden said.

Biden said the estimates were based on standard economic models.

"Everyone guessed wrong at the time the estimate was made about what the state of the economy was at the moment this was passed," Biden said.

Biden appeared Sunday on NBC's "Meet the Press" from his hometown of Wilmington, Del.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090614/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_biden_stimulus


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