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« on: May 28, 2008, 12:38:19 am »



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Brook,

This Dragon does not pull peoples legs.

For more info go to Giza Power and read my recent posts.

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« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2008, 12:38:42 am »

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Read it, didn't get it, please explain.

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« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2008, 12:39:12 am »

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Brook, Golden and silver are pulling your leg!

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« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2008, 12:44:33 am »

 
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Not to mention the Bronze one, too.

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If I may say so (and as a dragon, I believe I can get away with it) you are the most beautiful woman on Atlantis Rising. Strictly going by the avatars and a skin deep perspective.

Now tell me (and you are welcome to flat out lie if you wish to preserve the fantasy) is it really you?

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Yep, that's me, thanks for the compliment.
I have to say that I usually don't mess around with dragons, though.

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Oh, now isn't this sweet. I will notify brother Eros.

Silver Dragon, note that Brooke went out of her way to say "usually, don't". Silver, the ball is back in your court. You still have a chance.

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« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2008, 12:47:41 am »

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How this old, tired and world weary dragon has been captivated by thy beauty.

It has led me to wonder about what beauty is. If I digitized your face, it would no doubt form perfect phi correlations and unparalleled mathematical harmonics on the scale of a cleaved nautilus or a spiral galaxy or an infinite fractal pattern journey. If I applied your perfect phi correlations to vibrating string lengths, it would play music of angelic quality.

I once thought that beauty could be measured. There is abundant precedence for this. She is Helen of Troy. Helen is the standard. Helen’s face had the beauty capable of launching one thousand ships. Therefore a face that was capable of launching only one ship would rank one millihelen in beauty units. 10 ships would be a centihelen.

But then where does that leave the flaxen Brooke – a kilohelen? A megahelen? Or a gigahelen?

These just won’t do. We must abandon the old Helenic unit of beauty measure and go to the Brookian standard. You are the new standard of beauty and we are so pleased that you are here. You rate 1 Brooke!

Tell us, fairest Brooke. You must have achieved greatest with thy fair countenance. You must tell us more!

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« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2008, 12:48:26 am »

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Gee, thanks again for the compliment, SD, at least someone actually likes me around here.

Poetic and scientific, sort of the same mix we might find in Leonardo Da Vinci!

Tell you more, what sort of things were you thinking of?

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« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2008, 12:49:21 am »

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How could you NOT be liked?

This is an OUTRAGE!

I think people are casting terrible mis-judgments upon you. Oh, dearest Brooke, I fear they look upon thy sweet face and cannot rationalize how one such as you could also be blessed with blazing intellect and insight as well as beauty. This leads to the question: Is beauty a gift? Or is it a curse?

And the answer is: it is neither. Beauty must be appreciated and honoured for its perfection. Whether it be a human construct such as a sculpture, or a building or a mathematical formula or a natural phenomenon such as a dewed spider’s web at dawn, a prairie thunderstorm or the face of a child. I find it truly amazing and an utterly human perception.

What is in the human brain that recognizes beauty? Somehow I sense that the architecture of the universe reflects itself and is hardwired into our genetics, our spiraling dna itself being one of the most beautiful of molecules on its own. The process of mitosis and energy transmission and growth by the most under-appreciated of molecules – adenosine triphosphate is a truly beautiful process that unites all forms of life on our most beautiful of planets. Our blue skies, themselves are a creation of oxygen giving life, punctuated by clouds condensing from transpiring and perspiring cells.

How is it that our brain, takes a timeless, boundless bundle of quantum energy and converts it into a universe? How does it recognize perfection, a perfection built upon a probabilistic mathematical purity. Our brain LOVES phi, a jokester of a number that smiles at us constantly from every corner where we least expect to see him/her.

Is God phi? The universe is constructed with phi and we have been programmed to see phi.

So, therefore, is knowing beauty also knowing God? Not necessarily in the holy, God-fearing, smite-the-Phillistines sense but in an enlightened “I think I can make sense of and appreciate this world and who I am” sense.

So those who reject Beauty, also, and I believe unknowingly, reject God and themselves as unique participants in witnessing the most wonderful phenomenon that can possibly be conceived.

So Brooke, those that reject you, are rejecting themselves, God and the very existence of the Universe. And to all of you, when YOU REJECT a fellow human being, or DENY THEM FELLOWSHIP, you are committing a terrible disservice to this wonderful place.

Now then, my fairest Brooke, you must tell us if and where, we can celebrate your Holy Beauty. I am sure you have been honoured with your picture on magazine covers, television and movies.

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Well, that's so very sweet of you to say, too bad there aren't more guys like you around here. And to think...you're a dragon!!!

Well, beauty is only skin deep, and actually it's my mind I'm more proud of. I'll admit that I have my flaws, like anyone else, but the reason why I am given a hard time around here (I think anyway), is because I'm a woman and people don't tend to like strong women who speak their minds. I've only been here a short time, but have already had my share of sexist comments directed at me.

That, plus people don't like the idea the whole evolution tramples intelligent design motif I've been pushing. If you ask me, the story is so much more interesting if we did evolve from primates!

But enough about all that, I want to hear about you. I've never spoken with a real live dragon before.

Have you always been a dragon? What do you do with your time away from the forum?

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I have always been a dragon, as far as I know. It has been so long….I…I can’t remember. We dragons are honoured by some cultures but are demonized by others. There are some unenlightened types who in their zealousness, dismiss dragons as some kind of satanic, evil reptilian cult. This is not true. But long ago, dragons were venerated and presented a threat, I think, to other philosophies that were being progressed. These other philosophies, to your great misfortune, were hijacked by political forces. In addition to demonizing dragons, great Sins were committed in the name of God.

We dragons, of course, have been around much longer. You people are, in fact, Reptilian. Mammals developed from squirrel-like reptiles. In fact, Brooke, if you saw the first reptilian squirrels, you would hardly know them to be reptiles. This was so long ago, I can hardly remember it.

As to what it’s like being a dragon? I can tell you it is a lot of work. Polishing and shining and polishing and shining and on and on every day. Scales that is. Talons and fangs too but mostly scales. The air is so dirty now, it takes up too much time. It is vital, absolutely vital that I keep my scales very clean and polished. This is because long, long ago we dragons evolved a very useful and also unique mechanism within our scale tissues. Our scales developed photo-polymeric reverse polarity. What that means is that the pigments in our scales developed the capability to recognize and chemically react to different light frequencies. Dragons can puff up or collapse their scales to some degree, this helps with cleaning but more importantly, it means that we had the nervous tissue connections between our brain and each individual scale. Based on this nervous architecture, our brain was and is able to sense light wavelengths from all directions and control, to a large extent, the type of photo-polymeric reaction that takes place in each scale.

So what’s this all mean you say? Well, I’m sure you’ve figured it out. It means that we are invisible! If you look carefully, you can see what appears to be a disturbance in the light but it works especially well when we are flying or nesting.

And the flying bit? Well, we are a type of Pteradon. No real surprise there.

And the fire-breathing? Well, that is true actually. We dragons originally were scavengers. Ate a lot of decaying and rotting vegetation but some rotting flesh. We developed an anoxic digestive system, not unlike a cow’s. We developed a gas bladder for storing CO2 and CH4 and discharge the gas orally cuz, well, we’re just not designed for other…. So for years, we dragons would just burp. Until one day, at a party actually, one of us (not me) burped on the campfire and “ka-boom”. Well, we all took a turn and had a lot of laughs. Shortly thereafter we all got flint and iron implants in our dental work. Those big crests we have on our heads, high pressure methane storage. You ain’t had a headache until you’ve been a dragon with indigestion, baby.

Young dragons work very, very hard on their flying, pigment control and fire-breathing. It really takes an awful lot of work. We older dragons spend a lot of time training them and ensuring that they keep up with their grooming. The youngsters too like to scare people. We frown on this but, I must admit, I enjoy a nice evening flight and scaring the bejabbers out of some unsuspecting couple out for a stroll. Heh, heh, heeee!

We dragons keenly practice the ancient sciences. I especially like to build menhirs and henges and monitor the sun, stars, moon and venus as well as the occasional comet and dust cloud. The odd one has smacked into us and others have been near misses which caused unbelievable tidal disruptions. We taught you people how to do this 8000 years ago, but you now forget your place in the world in time and space. We study nature and the earth, chemistry and physics. We dragons taught you how to move large, large stones with only 1 person moving them. I can show you how to do this. Yet today you use large cranes, SNORT, so silly! I enjoy moving and working with stone – it keeps one grounded to the Earth. We fly a lot but we were originally land creatures and we like to feel grounded. I enjoy throwing stones with trebuchets. The raw physical forces controlled with simple physical processes are very relaxing for dragons. Get a few dragons together moving and cutting stone and throwing bolts and stones with trebuchet and you are asking for a lot of laughs and a lot of trouble.

And, well, Brooke, that’s what it’s like being a dragon. Of course, you are hearing this from a male dragon’s perspective. I am sure a female dragon would provide an entirely different and less flattering perspective but, sigh, WUSSSSSSHHH, Ow, Ouch, Ooops, (excuse me) that’s life!

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I had a feeling you were a poser. All dragons are vegetarian and only Cornish and Welsh dragons breath fire, Chinese dragons don’t.


Unlike the fierce fire-breathing dragons of European mythology, Chinese dragons were believed to be water-gods who ascended to the skies each spring to make rain for the benefit of humans.
In autumn, they would return to their underwater homes in lakes, pools, rivers and seas. Since good harvests were so essential to the well being of the people, it is not surprising that the dragon was worshipped and honoured.

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Celestial Chinese Dragon


The Celestial Chinese Dragon is comparable as the symbol of the Chinese race itself. Chinese around the world, proudly proclaim themselves "Lung Tik Chuan Ren" (Descendents of the Dragon). Dragons are referred to as the divine mythical creature that brings with it ultimate abundance, prosperity and good fortune.

As the emblem of the Emperor and the Imperial command, the legend of the Chinese Dragon permeates the ancient Chinese civilization and shaped their culture until today. Its benevolence signifies greatness, goodness and blessings.

The Chinese Dragon, or Lung , symbolizes power and excellence, valiancy and boldness, heroism and perseverance, nobility and divinity. A dragon overcomes obstacles until success is his. He is energetic, decisive, optimistic, intelligent and ambitious.

Unlike the the negative energies associated with Western Dragons, most Eastern Dragons are beautiful, friendly, and wise. They are the angels of the Orient. Instead of being hated, they are loved and worshipped. Temples and shrines have been built to honor them, for they control the rain, rivers, lakes, and seas. Many Chinese cities have pagodas where people used to burn incense and pray to dragons. The Black Dragon Pool Chapel, near Peking, was reserved for the Empress and her court.

Special worship services took place there on the first and fifteenth of every month. Dragon shrines and altars can still be seen in many parts of the Far East. They are usually along seashores and riverbanks, because most Eastern Dragons live in water. The Isle of the Temple, in Japan's Inland Sea, has become a famous stopover for pilgrims who meditate and pray to dragons. Both male and female dragons have mated with humans. Their descendants became great rulers. The Japanese Emperor Hirohito traced his ancestry back 125 generations to Princess Fruitful Jewel, daughter of a Dragon King of the Sea. Emperors in many Asian countries claimed to have dragon ancestors. This made them so proud, that everything they used was decorated with dragons and described in terms of the dragon: dragon-throne, dragon-robe, dragon-bed, dragon-boat. Calling an emperor "dragon-face" was a supreme compliment. People believed that rulers could change themselves into dragons. For hundreds of years, Japanese emperors sat concealed behind bamboo curtains whenever visitors came. Anyone who dared to peek was condemned to death.

Everything connected with Eastern Dragons is blessed. The Year of the Dragon which takes place ever twelve years, is lucky. Present-day Oriental astrologers  claim that children born during Dragon Years enjoy health, wealth, and long life. (1964 and 1976 were Dragon Years.)

Dragons are so wise that they have been royal advisors. A thirteenth-century Cambodian king spent his nights in a golden tower, where he consulted with the real ruler of the land a nine-headed dragon. Eastern Dragons are vain, even though they are wise. They are insulted when a ruler doesn't follow their advice, or when people don't honor their importance. Then, by thrashing about, dragons either stop making rain and cause water shortages, or they breathe black clouds that bring storms and floods. Small dragons do minor mischief, such as making roofs leak, or causing rice to be sticky. People set off firecrackers and carry immense paper dragons in special parades. They also race dragon-shaped boats in water all to please and appease their dragons.

The Dragon brings upon the essence of life, in the form of its celestial breath, known to many as sheng chi. He yields life and bestows its power in the form of the seasons, bringing water from rain, warmth from the sunshine, wind from the seas and soil from the earth. The Dragon is the ultimate representation of the forces of Mother Nature. The greatest divine force on Earth.

The Chinese Dragon is often seen as the symbol of divine protection and vigilance. It is regarded as the Supreme Being amongst all creatures. It has the ability to live in the seas, fly up the heavens and coiled up in the land in the form of mountains. Being the divine mythical animal, the Dragon can ward off wandering evil spirits, protect the innocent and bestow safety to all that hold his emblem. The Chinese Dragon is look upon as the ultimate symbol of Good Fortune.

Those who are born in the Year of the Dragon, you might be interested in some of the traits.


ASTROLOGY - 2000 THE YEAR OF THE DRAGON

1904  - Wood Dragon
1916  - Fire Dragon
1928  - Earth Dragon
1940  - Metal dragon
1952  - Water dragon
1964  - Wood Dragon
1976  - Fire Dragon
1988  - Earth Dragon
2000  - Metal Dragon
2012  - Water Dragon

WOOD DRAGON: The Wood Dragon is creative, imaginative, and inquisitive. He is both a thinker and a doer and is capable of brilliant new concepts. His every move is guided by sound logic. His drive and ambition allow him to put many of his ideas into practice, nevertheless this Dragon is capable of concealing his domination and tries not to offend. He will even compromise if it is advantages. Although not as self-centered as other Dragons, he is still outspoken and fearless when challenged.

FIRE DRAGON: The Fire Dragon is the most extroverted and competitive Dragon. He tends to push too hard and expects a lot from everyone. His criticisms are objective and he has the ability to arouse massive popular support. His insatiable ambition can make him short-tempered and intolerant. He is an empire builder who needs to master his less favorable traits and learn how to communicate more humbly with people as individuals.

EARTH DRAGON: The Earth Dragon is a quieter, more reflective Dragon, He will be appreciative of other's opinions even if he fails to agree with them. He is reasonable in his approach to problems and his leadership is less dictatorial. He is not given to outbursts of temper, but at the same time demands respect. He knows the value of cooperation and is more diplomatic than the other Dragons. He is ambitious, but his initiatives are less hurried and more carefully thought out.

METAL DRAGON: The Metal Dragon is the most strong-willed Dragon. He is inflexible, unbending, and combative. He gives little regard to the feelings of others. This ruthlessness can result in a rapid rise to a position of authority, but often at the cost of destroying important relationships. It is futile to attempt to convince him that certain things are simply undoable. He will go it alone if he can't gain support. He succeeds because he refuses to accept failure.

WATER DRAGON: The Water Dragon is less selfish and opinionated than the other Dragons. He is more inhibited and less power-hungry. He can accept defeat without recriminations. He makes a good negotiator as he knows when, where, and how to apply pressure. He has a tendency to be over-optimistic and needs to learn how to relinquish what is unfeasible so that he can concentrate his energies on the most rewarding endeavors.


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The Dragon Personality Traits

The Dragon person is self confident and impulsive and consequently does not always listen to the advice of others. He is also a perfectionist and he sets high standards for himself.

Although strong and decisive the Dragon is not manipulative or sly. He refuses to deceive or compromise and fails to spot subversive intent. He enjoys being in command and like an emperor holding court he eliminates obstacles until success is his.

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Types of Dragons

There are nine major types of Chinese dragons These include the horned dragon, the winged dragon, the celestial dragon (which supports and protects the mansions of the gods), the spiritual dragon which generates wind and rain for the benefit of mankind), the dragon of hidden treasures (which keeps guard over concealed wealth), the coiling dragon (which lives in water), and the yellow dragon (which once emerged from water and presented the legendary Emperor Fu Shi with the elements of writing)

The last of the nine is the dragon king, which actually consists of four separate dragons, each of which rules over one of the four seas, those of the east, south, west, and north.

The most powerful generalized type of Chinese dragon is the horned dragon, or lung, which can produce rain and is totally deaf. Additionally, there is a homeless dragon (Ii) that lives in the ocean and another type (chiao) that is scale-covered and usually inhabits marshes but also keeps dens in the mountains.

There are also nine ways the Chinese have traditionally represented these dragons, each one revealing a different dragon characteristic. There are dragons carved on the tops of bells and gongs, because of the beast's habit of calling loudly when attacked. A second type is carved on the screws of fiddles, since most dragons are fond of music. A third is carved on the tops of stone tablets, because of dragons' love of literature. A fourth is found at the bottom of stone monuments, as dragons can support heavy weights. A fifth is placed on the eaves of temples, as dragons are ever alert to danger. A sixth occurs on the beams of bridges, since dragons are fond of water. A seventh is carved on Buddha's throne, as dragons like to rest. An eighth is placed on the hilts of swords, since dragons are known to be capable of slaughter. The ninth is carved on prison gates, as these are dragons that are fond of quarreling and trouble making.

The colors of Chinese dragons are evidently quite variable, but in the case of the chiao type its back is striped with green, its sides are yellow, and it is crimson underneath. The nine major characteristics of a lung type dragon include a head like a camel's, horns like a deer's, eyes like a hare's, ears like a bull's, a neck like an iguana's, a belly like a frog's, scales like a carp's, paws like a tiger's, and claws like an eagle's. It has a pair of large canine teeth in its upper jaw The long, tendril-like whiskers extending from either side of its mouth are probably used for feeling its way along the bottom of muddy ponds. In color it varies from greenish to golden, with a series of alternating short and long spines extending down the back and along the tail, where they become longer. One specimen had wings at its side, and walked on top of the water. Another tossed its mane back and forth making noises that sounded like a flute.

Cow-heads are also common. A ten-footer, found lying on the banks of China's Yangtze River, was different from most because of its long, thick eyebrows. A Yellow River variety, seen on shore in the 1920s by a Chinese teacher, was bright blue, and as big as five cows. Both dragons crawled into the water as soon as it started to rain.

A few dragons begin life as fish. Carp, who successfully jump rapids and leap over waterfalls, change into fish-dragons. A popular saying, "The carp has leaped through the dragon's gate," means success, especially for students who have passed their exams.

Male dragons sometimes mate with other kinds of animals. A dragon fathers an elephant when he mates with a pig, and he sires a racehorse, after mating with a mare.

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The 4 Dragons: A Chinese Tale

Once upon a time, there were no rivers and lakes on earth, but only the Eastern Sea, in which lived four dragons: the Long Dragon, the Yellow Dragon, the Black Dragon and the Pearl Dragon.

One day the four dragons flew from the sea into the sky. They soared and dived, playing at hide-and-seek in the clouds.

"Come over here quickly!" the Pearl Dragon cried out suddenly.

"What's up?" asked the other three, looking down in the direction where the Pearl Dragon pointed. On the earth they saw many people putting out fruits and cakes, and burning incense sticks. They were praying! A white-haired woman, kneeling on the ground with a thin boy on her back, murmured:

"Please send rain quickly, God of Heaven, to give our children rice to eat.."

For there had been no rain for a long time. The crops withered, the grass turned yellow and fields cracked under the scorching sun.

"How poor the people are!" said the Yellow Dragon. "And they will die if it doesn't rain soon."

The Long Dragon nodded. Then he suggested, "Let's go and beg the Jade Emperor for rain."

So saying, he leapt into the clouds. The others followed closely and flew towards the Heavenly Palace.

Being in charge of all the affairs in heaven, on earth and in the sea, the Jade Emperor was very powerful. He was not pleased to see the dragons rushing in. "Why do you come here instead of staying in the sea and behaving yourselves?"

The Long Dragon stepped forward and said, "The crops on earth are withering and dying, Your Majesty. I beg you to send rain down quickly!"

"All right. You go back first, I'll send some rain down tomorrow." The Jade Emperor pretended to agree while listening to the songs of the fairies.

"Thanks, Your Majesty!" The four dragons went happily back.

But ten days passed, and not a drop of rain came down.

The people suffered more, some eating bark, some grass roots, some forced to eat white clay when they ran out of bark and grass roots.

Seeing all this, the four dragons felt very sorry, for they knew the Jade Emperor only cared about pleasure, and never took the people to heart. They could only rely on themselves to relieve the people of their miseries. But how to do it?

Seeing the vast sea, the Long Dragon said that he had an idea.

"What is it? Out with it, quickly!" the other three demanded.

"Look, is there not plenty of water in the sea where we live? We should scoop it up and spray it towards the sky. The water will be like rain drops and come down to save the people and their crops."

"Good idea!" The others clapped their hands.

"But," said the Long Dragon after thinking a bit, "we will be blamed if the Jade Emperor learns of this."

"I will do anything to save the people," the Yellow Dragon said resolutely.

"Let's begin. We will never regret it." The Black Dragon and the Pearl Dragon were not to be outdone.

They flew to the sea, scooped up water in their mouths, and then flew back into the sky, where they sprayed the water out over the earth. The four dragons flew back and forth, making the sky dark all around. Before long the sea water became rain pouring down from the sky.

"It's raining! It's raining!"

"The crops will be saved!"

The people cried and leaped with joy. On the ground the wheat stalks raised their heads and the sorghum stalks straightened up.

The god of the sea discovered these events and reported to the Jade Emperor.

"How dare the four dragons bring rain without my permission!" The Jade Emperor was enraged, and ordered the heavenly generals and their troops to arrest the four dragons. Being far outnumbered, the four dragons could not defend themselves, and they were soon arrested and brought back to the heavenly palace.

"Go and get four mountains to lay upon them so that they can never escape!" The Jade Emperor ordered the Mountain God.

The Mountain God used his magic power to make four mountains fly there, whistling in the wind from afar, and pressed them down upon the four dragons.

Imprisoned as they were, they never regretted their actions. Determined to do good for the people forever, they turned themselves into four rivers, which flowed past high mountains and deep valleys, crossing the land from the west to the east and finally emptying into the sea. And so China's four great rivers were formed -- the Heilongjian (Black Dragon) in the far north, the Huanghe (Yellow River) in central China, the Changjiang (Yangtze, or Long River) farther south, and the Zhujiang (Pearl) in the very far south.

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Chinese Dragons

There are many ways to organize all of the Chinese dragons. In the oriental tradition of opposites, the dragon is correlated with the masculine yang power while the phoenix, the bird of rebirth, is associated with the feminine yin force.
The Chinese dragon like the Indian Naga's, are often associated with water and rain and lakes and rivers. And so dragons are not as the European model of destruction but are instead life-giving, honored and very powerful.

Most often these dragons are associated with royalty and the emperors are closely aligned with the image of dragon. Before history began, China's first emperor, Fu Hsi was said to have a dragons tail and his successor, Shen Nung, was said to have a dragon as father. The Imperial Dragon or lung has five claws instead of four. The ordinary dragon or mang depicts temporal power instead of spiritual prowess. The lung, or Dragon King issued orders for the Emperor by moving in four directions simultaneously. The fifth direction (in connection with the fifth claw) is the center where he remains.

Even into recent times dragons pervade within the body and movements of the emperor. There is the Dragon Throne, Dragons pace (the Emperors stately stride), Dragon face (his visage), and Dragons Pearl (the Emperors words). When an Emperor died it was said that he had ascended to heaven on the back of a Dragon.

The T'ien Lung, or Celestial Dragon lives in the sky and guards the gods to keep them from falling out of the clouds. The Fu-tsang guards hidden treasure.

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Tales of the dragon, unicorn, phoenix & tortoise, regarded as the four 'spirit animals' of ancient China. The dragon ranks fifth among the twelve animal signs, representing the Earthly Branch Chen, and belongs to the third lunar month. Chinese dragon is also symbolic of vitality, energy and hope.

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The Dragon's Pearl by Julie Lawson

Description & Definition of Chinese Dragons
In the Far East, the dragon managed to retain its prestige and is known as a beneficent creature. The Chinese dragon, lung, represented yang, the principle of heaven, activity, and maleness in the yin-yang of Chinese cosmology. From ancient times, it was the emblem of the Imperial family, and until the founding of the republic (1911) the dragon adorned the Chinese flag. The dragon came to Japan with much of the rest of Chinese culture, and there, the Japanese dragons (as ryu or tatsu) it became capable of changing its size at will, even to the point of becoming invisible. Both Chinese dragons and Japanese dragons, though regarded as powers of the air, are usually wingless. The Chinese dragons are among the deified forces of nature in Taoism.
The term dragon has no zoological meaning, but dragon has been applied in the Latin generic name Draco to a number of species of small lizards found in the Indo-Malayan region. The name dragon is also popularly applied to the giant monitor dragon, varanus komodoensis, discovered on Komodo, in Indonesia. (Popularly called komodo dragons)

'LUNG' as in LUNG DE CHUAN REN'
The Chinese Pinyin LONG (Chinese: "dragon"), in Chinese mythology, a type of majestic beast that dwells in rivers, lakes, and oceans and roams the skies. Originally a rain divinity, the Chinese dragon, unlike its malevolent European counterpart (see dragon), is associated with heavenly beneficence and fecundity. Rain rituals as early as the 6th century BC involved a dragon image animated by a procession of dancers; similar dances are still practiced in traditional Chinese communities to secure good fortune.
Ancient Chinese cosmogonists defined four types of dragons: the Celestial Dragon (T'ien Lung), who guards the heavenly dwellings of the gods; the Dragon of Hidden Treasure (Fu Tsang Lung); the Earth Dragon (Ti Lung), who controls the waterways; and the Spiritual Dragon (Shen Lung), who controls the rain and winds. In popular belief, only the latter two dragons were significant; they were transformed into the Dragon Kings (Lung Wang), gods who lived in the four oceans, delivered rain, and protected seafarers.
The Chinese dragon, generally depicted as a four-legged animal with a scaled, snakelike body, horns, claws, and large, demonic eyes, the Chinese dragon or 'lung' was considered the king of animals, and the dragon image was appropriated by Chinese emperors as a sacred symbol of imperial power.

THE DRAGON
Legendary monster usually conceived as a huge, bat-winged, fire-breathing, scaly lizard or snake with a barbed tail. The belief in these creatures apparently arose without the slightest knowledge on the part of the ancients of the gigantic, prehistoric, dragon like reptiles. In Greece the word drakon, from which the English word Dragon was derived, was used originally for any large serpent (see sea serpent), and the dragon of mythology, whatever shape it later assumed, remained essentially a snake.
In general, the dragons in the Middle Eastern world, where snakes are large and deadly, the serpent or dragon was symbolic of the principle of evil. Thus, the Egyptian god Apepi, for example, was the great serpent of the world of darkness. But the Greeks and Romans, though accepting the Middle Eastern idea of the serpent as an evil power, also at times conceived the drakontes as beneficent powers--sharp-eyed dwellers in the inner parts of the Earth. On the whole, however, the evil reputation of dragons was the stronger, and in Europe the dragons outlived the other. Christianity confused the ancient benevolent and malevolent serpent deities in a common condemnation. In Christian art the dragon came to be symbolic of sin and paganism and, as such, was depicted prostrate beneath the heels of saints and martyrs.
The dragon's form varied from the earliest times. The Chaldean dragon Tiamat had four legs, a scaly body, and wings, whereas the biblical dragon of Revelation, "the old serpent," was many-headed like the Greek Hydra. Because the dragons not only possessed both protective and terror-inspiring qualities but also had decorative effigies, dragons were early used as warlike emblems. Thus, in the Iliad, King Agamemnon had on his shield a blue three-headed snake, just as the Norse warriors in later times painted dragons on their shields and carved dragons' heads on the prows of their ships. In England before the Norman Conquest, the dragon was chief among the royal ensigns in war, having been instituted as such by Uther Pendragon, father of King Arthur. In the 20th century the dragon was officially incorporated in the armorial bearings of the prince of Wales.

TALES OF 3-TOED & 4-TOED DRAGON
The legend of a rich and powerful landlord who had two giant dragons perched atop the perimeter wall of his mansion. When this news was brought to the attention of the imperial guards, the court ordered it to be removed, failing which the landlord will have to face the punishment of execution in public.
The feudal lord sought the advise of a brave and witty advisor. His argument that the imperial dragon had five claws wheras the dragon of his master had four claws and as such they were different. The feudal landlord was finally pardoned and allowed to retain his two dragons. Since that day, dragon motifs with three claws or four claws can be use by ordinary folks.


CHINESE ASTROLOGY
In Chinese Astrology (Asiapac Books) by renowned feng shui master Kwok Man Ho, who is based in Manchester, England, he describes the dragon as an ambitious animal who wanted to replace the tiger as king of the animals. The Jade Emperor had to intervene as judge when the dragon and the tiger both broke into a fight. The dragon heard that he was not impressive as he did not have a horn like the rooster. the centipede coaxed his friend, the rooster, to lend his horn to dragon. On judgment day, the dragon and the tiger both looked ferocious. The Emperor made the dragon the king of the water and the tiger the king of the earth.
After gaining status as a celestial animal, the dragon refused to return the horn to the rooster. Therefore, the rooster went after the centipede who coaxed the rooster to lend the horn to the dragon. The centipede went into hiding. It is believed that the rooster loves to feed on centipede because of this reason.

DETAILS OF CHINESE DRAGONS
In Taoism, the dragon has 117 scales, 81 scales are infused with yang energy and 36 scales with yin energy to reflect a dragon's personality. All Chinese Dragons bear this scale pattern except the great Heavenly Dragon which has all yang energy. Dragons lay an egg at a time and it takes 1,000 years to hatch and another 1,500 years for the dragon to be full-grown.

CHINESE-DRAGON
In the Far East, the dragon managed to retain its prestige and is known as a beneficent creature. The lung, represented yang, the principle of heaven, activity, and maleness in the yin-yang of their cosmology. From ancient times, it was the emblem of the Imperial family, and until the founding of the republic (1911) it adorned the National flag. It came to Japan with much of the rest of Chinese culture, and there (as ryu or tatsu) it became capable of changing its size at will, even to the point of becoming invisible. Both Chinese-dragon and Japanese dragons, though regarded as powers of the air, are usually wingless. They are among the deified forces of nature in Taoism.
In the Latin generic name Draco; a number of species of small lizards found in the Indo-Malayan region. The name is also popularly applied to the giant monitor, Varanus Komodoensis, discovered on Komodo, in Indonesia.


DRAGON MYTHOLOGY OF THE ORIENT
In the mythology of various Oriental countries, notably Japan and China, the dragon is the supreme spiritual power, the most ancient emblem in Oriental mythology and the most ubiquitous dragon motif in Oriental art. Oriental-Dragons represent celestial and terrestrial power, wisdom, and strength. They reside in water and bring wealth and good luck and, belief, rainfall for crops. In traditional Chinese New Year's Day parades is believed to repel evil spirits that would spoil the new year. The five-clawed-dragon became the Chinese-Imperial emblem (the four-clawed being the common dragon). The three-clawed-dragon is the Japanese-dragon. In Hindu mythology, Indra, god of the sky and giver of rain, slays Vitra, Dragon of the Waters, to release rainfall.
Different region has its own dragonology or dragon mythology. (Read more tales of the mythical creature, spread all over the site in no specific order.)

Chinese Dragons
Unlike the fierce fire-breathing dragons of European mythology, Chinese dragons were believed
to be water-gods who ascended to the skies each spring to make rain for the benefit of humans.
In autumn, they would return to their underwater homes in lakes, pools, rivers and seas. Since
good harvests were so essential to the well-being of the people, it is not surprising that the
dragon was worshipped and honored.
From the most ancient times in China, the dragon was considered the emblem of royalty and the
symbol of greatness. A man of great courage was said to be like a dragon. There was no greater
honored than to have the dragon's name associated with one's own.
The Dragon's Pearl by Julie Lawson, Oxford University Press, 1992.

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Myths, Theories & Explanations
Throughout the centuries scientists came up with many explanations and theories about the dragon. It's beyond any doubt that it must have been, in its earliest appearances, a reptile, a snake, alligator, or lizard. Reliquees and archeological sites dating from 5,000 to 6,000 years from nowhere shown that lizards, alligators and dragons were adapted in totemestic messes of honor and rituals. By researching the icons on these findings we can trace down the earliest description, evolution and the final appearance of the dragon.

The Chinese Dragon: ' LUNG'
According to ancient texts the dragon was a creature with a pair of antlers like the one of a deer, a camel head, the eyes of a hare, and the neck of a serpent. Its' belly looks like the one of a shen (a mythical water dragon that resembles a crocodile). Its' claws look like the one of an eagle, its' paws like the ones of a tiger, and its' ears like the ones of a buffalo. The dragon was able to morph from one form into another within a few instances, from fat to thin and from tall to short. It could also rise to heaven and descend to the depths of the sea. It seems to be that the dragon is a supernatural creature that can accept any type of form. The Chinese sign for the dragon appears during the Yin and Shang dynasties (from the 16th to the 11th century BC., the period of the earliest Chinese hieroglyphs), between inscriptions on bones and turtles shields. These inscriptions depicted a horned reptile, teeth, scales and sometimes paws as well. Above the sign there's often a symbol that seems to indicate that the dragon is considered to be a violent, evil, misfortune bringing creature. Based on this symbol Chinese scientists concluded that the 'dragon' was in fact an alligator.

Though the first dragons had one single form of appearance, the different peoples from ancient China, that got into contact with each other more and more often, started to image their totems with more fantasy. After a long time, one picture evolved of which its properties mixed with the ones of different dragons or totems.

Therefore the dragon is a product of imagination; a mystical creature that has been worshipped by the Chinese for centuries. Also in modern Chinese art the dragon is depicted in many appearances. Ethnical and cultural minorities depicted it in many forms, from a fish to an alligator or human.

Source: Zhou GuoXin


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                                                                             Chinese 5- Toed Dragons

Chinese dragons are snake-like with four short legs. Chinese dragons have five toes verses the Korean Dragon with four toes and the Japanese with only three. Unlike other dragons of legend they do not have wings. The five toed dragons are a symbol of power. The Chinese dragon is often depicted as either being red or gold, although other colors are found. The Chinese term for the dragon is “Lung”. There are four major categories of Lung.

Tien-Lung, The Celestial Dragon, who protects the palace of Gods.

Shen-Lung, The spiritual Dragon, who controls wind and rain.

Ti-Lung, The Earth Dragon, which controls rivers, and water on the earth.

Fut’s-Lung, The Underworld Dragon, which guards precious metals and gems.   

It is with great thanks, respects, and appreciation that much of the above information about Chinese dragons and many of the dragon images located on this site were provided by Mr. Bernard Burn whose wonderful site is located at:

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Dear Johnee,

We did not develop large, slashing fangs and long sharp talons for grazing on grass and twigs my vegetarian colleague. We developed them for eating carrion.

While we still eat a lot of vegetable matter, all of us enjoy a good carcass now and then.

I should say that I am vegetarian to an extent. I only eat vegetarian animals. Cows, deer, chickens and especially vegetarian dragons are acceptable to eat. People, bears, wolves and owls are generally frowned upon.

I am getting hungry. Think I'll try and nick a pig for a nice weekend Barbie. I guess you're not invited....Brooke is though!

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