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« on: May 19, 2008, 02:34:15 am »

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Anti-feminism



Antifeminism is opposition to feminism in some or all of its forms.

Feminists such as Camille Paglia, Christina Hoff Sommers, Jean Bethke Elshtain and Elizabeth Fox-Genovese have been labeled "anti-feminists" by other feminists.

Daphne Patai and Noretta Koertge argue that in this way the term "anti-feminist" is used to silence academic debate about feminism.

Paul Nathanson and Katherine K. Young's books 'Spreading Misandry' and 'Legalizing Misandry' explore what they argue is feminist-inspired misandry.

Amen to that !!!

Christina Hoff-Sommers argues feminist misandry leads directly to misogyny by what she calls
"establishment feminists" against (the majority of) women who love men in
'Who Stole Feminism: How Women Have Betrayed Women.'

See this is what feminists forget.  A woman's self-esteem is dependent on masculine attention.  Miso-andrist feminists are never happy feminists and now you know why.   Wink 

"Marriage rights" advocates criticize feminists like Sheila Cronan who take the view that marriage constitutes slavery for women, and that freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage.

 Shocked Shocked Shocked  Marriage is a partnership in which the guy is in charge until she says otherwise.  Heard that here in Florida.
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« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2008, 02:41:41 am »



Wendy McElroy:

Canadian individualist anarchist feminist


Hey she's pretty hot !!!   Wink


Anarcha-feminism



Another offshoot of radical feminism is anarcha-feminism (also called anarchist feminism or anarcho-feminism),
an ideology which combines feminist and anarchist beliefs.

Anarcha-feminists view patriarchy as a manifestation of hierarchy, believing that the fight against patriarchy is an essential part of the class struggle and the anarchist struggle against the state. Anarcha-feminists such as Susan Brown see the anarchist struggle as a necessary component of the feminist struggle. In Brown's words, "anarchism is a political philosophy that opposes all relationships of power, it is inherently feminist".

Recently, Wendy McElroy has defined a position (she describes it as "ifeminism" or "individualist feminism") that combines feminism with anarcho-capitalism or libertarianism, arguing that a pro-capitalist, anti-state position is compatible with an emphasis on equal rights and empowerment for women.

Individualist anarchist-feminism has grown from the US-based individualist anarchism movement.

...and she's a libertarian.  Ahh sweet !!!!
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« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2008, 02:58:44 am »

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Nah. A woman's self esteem is dependent upon how much respect she demands of herself, men have nothing to do with it.

And brother, I demand a lot of respect.

(And don't you forget it either.   Wink  )
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« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2008, 03:03:40 am »

Volitzer, you don't have any idea of what feminism is about.  It isn't about "hating men," it's about being treated equally with men and getting the same opportunities that men have for yourself.

What you're describing is a caricature of feminism created by misogynistic men to keep women down.  Don't buy into it.
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« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2008, 03:22:25 am »

Megan Meier MySpace Suicide Scandal

November 19th, 2007 | web 2.0, media, education, news, Participation

At this point people who follow the news should be familiar with the latest MySpace scandal about Megan Meier who committed suicide after a MySpace boyfriend turned on her, and she could not manage it through her own diagnosed depressive state. The weird part is that the people behind the MySpace profile of Josh, who was working on Megan Meier, were parents and adults.

What makes this creepy is that parents, adults who should have known better used a social networking system to essentially convince an already disturbed teen (by all accounts) to kill herself. While the police state that there is not a crime here, here is a moral issue here, and this is the not the first time that we have been here.

Over the last year many people have been damaged by people using web 2.0 systems, blogs, forums and other information systems to undermine, threaten, or otherwise silence people, from Kathy Sierra, to other problems with unregulated user content.

There really is no plea here; there is a moral obligation for adults to behave in a manner that is to the better working of society. As we change our definition on privacy, issues like Megan Meier, Kathy Sierra, and others has to make people stop and pause. There is a reason why comments are filtered now, not just because of spam, but also because of the weirdness of crowds.

It would have been impossible for someone who was misusing the system like the adults who picked on and drove a young teen to suicide to detect what was happening. But this makes many arguments over how people should not use systems. There are no real laws against this outside of cyber bullying, which is an issue that the prosecutor will be looking at.

The greater problem is when events like this turn neighbors against neighbors. This should never have happened, and in civil court, the instigators, no matter how adult, no matter how they did not think of unintended consequences of their actions, should at least be held morally accountable for what they have done. The outrage is there, the sad part is that this is going to lead to tougher laws, in the name of the children, where anonymity is something that has gone by the wayside. Sometimes for good purposes, either whistle blower, crime reporter, talking about a repressive government, anonymity is a cornerstone of being able to do that. When anonymity goes because of the misguided many, the few are jeopardized.

Misuse of systems means the regulatory environment will get tougher than it is today. New social web 2.0 sites will have to learn to comply with new state and federal rules. It is not enough that they are catching predators, now we have to watch out for the adults that are misusing the system as well.

DARDENNE PRAIRIE, Mo. —  Megan Meier thought she had made a new friend in cyberspace when a cute teenage boy named Josh contacted her on MySpace and began exchanging messages with her. Megan, a 13-year-old who suffered from depression and attention deficit disorder, corresponded with Josh for more than a month before he abruptly ended their friendship, telling her he had heard she was cruel.

The next day Megan committed suicide. Her family learned later that Josh never actually existed; he was created by members of a neighborhood family that included a former friend of Megan's.

Now Megan's parents hope the people who made the fraudulent profile on the social networking Web site will be prosecuted, and they are seeking legal changes to safeguard children on the Internet.

The girl's mother, Tina Meier, said she doesn't think anyone involved intended for her daughter to kill herself.

"But when adults are involved and continue to screw with a 13-year- old, with or without mental problems, it is absolutely vile," she told the Suburban Journals of Greater St. Louis, which first reported on the case.

Tina Meier said law enforcement officials told her the case did not fit into any law. But sheriff's officials have not closed the case and pledged to consider new evidence if it emerges.

Megan Meier hanged herself in her bedroom on Oct. 16, 2006, and died the next day. She was described as a "bubbly, goofy" girl who loved hanging out with her friends, watching movies and fishing with her dad.

Megan had been on medication, but had been upbeat before her death, her mother said, after striking up a relationship on MySpace with Josh Evans about six weeks before her death.

Josh told her he was born in Florida and had recently moved to the nearby community of O'Fallon. He said he was homeschooled, and didn't yet have a phone number in the area to give her.

Megan's parents said she received a message from him on Oct. 15 of last year, essentially saying he didn't want to be her friend anymore, that he had heard she wasn't nice to her friends.

The next day, as Megan's mother headed out the door to take another daughter to the orthodontist, she knew Megan was upset about Internet messages. She asked Megan to log off. Users on MySpace must be at least 14, though Megan was not when she opened her account. A MySpace spokeswoman did not return calls seeking comment.

Someone using Josh's account was sending cruel messages. Then, Megan called her mother, saying electronic bulletins were being posted about her, saying things like, "Megan Meier is a ****. Megan Meier is fat."

Megan's mother, who monitored her daughter's online communications, returned home and said she was shocked at the vulgar language her own daughter was sending. She told her daughter how upset she was about it.

Megan ran upstairs, and her father, Ron, tried to tell her everything would be fine. About 20 minutes later, she was found in her bedroom. She died the next day.

Her father said he found a message the next day from Josh, which he said law enforcement authorities have not been able to retrieve. It told the girl she was a bad person and the world would be better without her, he has said.

Another parent, who learned of the MySpace account from her own daughter who had access to the Josh profile, told Megan's parents about the hoax in a counselor's office about six weeks after Megan died. That's when they learned Josh was imaginary, they said.

The woman who created the fake profile has not been charged with a crime. She allegedly told the St. Charles County Sheriff's Department she created Josh's profile because she wanted to gain Megan's confidence to know what Megan was saying about her own child online.

The mother from down the street told police that she, her daughter and another person all typed and monitored the communication between the fictitious boy and Megan.

A person who answered the door at the family's house told an Associated Press reporter on Friday afternoon that they had been advised not to comment.

Megan's parents had been storing a foosball table for the family that created the MySpace character. Six weeks after Megan's death, they learned the other family had created the profile and responded by destroying the foosball table, dumping it on the neighbors' driveway and encouraging them to move away.

Megan's parents are now separated and plan to divorce.

Aldermen in Dardenne Prairie, a community of about 7,000 residents about 35 miles from St. Louis, have proposed a new ordinance related to child endangerment and Internet harassment. It could come before city leaders on Wednesday.

"Is this enough?" Mayor Pam Fogarty said Friday. "No, not by any stretch of the imagination, but it's something, and you have to start somewhere."



Even tho Josh Evans was fictitious it shows the innate need of how girls need masculine input.  Feminists need to understand this and need to work to prevent more Megan Meier incidents.

This is the same type ****-culture I have to keep my nieces from getting sucked into.  I mean to tell a 13 year old that the world would better off without her by other women.

If feminists will take on the cuntras America would be better off.
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« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2008, 03:27:41 am »

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A woman's self-esteem is dependent on masculine attention.


Nah. A woman's self esteem is dependent upon how much respect she demands of herself, men have nothing to do with it.

And brother, I demand a lot of respect.

(And don't you forget it either.   Wink  )

Google Dr. Ellen Kriedman.  I'm not making this up.  All your prostitutes have had rotten relationships with their daddies.  So to get love and the masculine approval they need they turn to prostitution.
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« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2008, 03:33:15 am »

Volitzer, you don't have any idea of what feminism is about.  It isn't about "hating men," it's about being treated equally with men and getting the same opportunities that men have for yourself.

What you're describing is a caricature of feminism created by misogynistic men to keep women down.  Don't buy into it.

What I am opposed to is the evil-feminism where the out of control ****-culture gets 13 year olds to commit suicide via a hanging and other mind warping feminism.

Besides I'm opposed to the NWO's NAU plan that will scrap the 19th Amendment if given the chance.

I want to see my nieces and any possible daughters of my own thrive in future America.

If women could work on their humor and genius sides men would see them just as equally.  My girlfriend actually does a "Tim Allen grunt" whenever she works on something carpentry like.  Now will you see Oprah or Martha Stewart do anything as cool ??
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« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2008, 01:51:54 am »

Megan Meier MySpace Suicide Scandal

November 19th, 2007 | web 2.0, media, education, news, Participation

At this point people who follow the news should be familiar with the latest MySpace scandal about Megan Meier who committed suicide after a MySpace boyfriend turned on her, and she could not manage it through her own diagnosed depressive state. The weird part is that the people behind the MySpace profile of Josh, who was working on Megan Meier, were parents and adults.

What makes this creepy is that parents, adults who should have known better used a social networking system to essentially convince an already disturbed teen (by all accounts) to kill herself. While the police state that there is not a crime here, here is a moral issue here, and this is the not the first time that we have been here.

Over the last year many people have been damaged by people using web 2.0 systems, blogs, forums and other information systems to undermine, threaten, or otherwise silence people, from Kathy Sierra, to other problems with unregulated user content.

There really is no plea here; there is a moral obligation for adults to behave in a manner that is to the better working of society. As we change our definition on privacy, issues like Megan Meier, Kathy Sierra, and others has to make people stop and pause. There is a reason why comments are filtered now, not just because of spam, but also because of the weirdness of crowds.

It would have been impossible for someone who was misusing the system like the adults who picked on and drove a young teen to suicide to detect what was happening. But this makes many arguments over how people should not use systems. There are no real laws against this outside of cyber bullying, which is an issue that the prosecutor will be looking at.

The greater problem is when events like this turn neighbors against neighbors. This should never have happened, and in civil court, the instigators, no matter how adult, no matter how they did not think of unintended consequences of their actions, should at least be held morally accountable for what they have done. The outrage is there, the sad part is that this is going to lead to tougher laws, in the name of the children, where anonymity is something that has gone by the wayside. Sometimes for good purposes, either whistle blower, crime reporter, talking about a repressive government, anonymity is a cornerstone of being able to do that. When anonymity goes because of the misguided many, the few are jeopardized.

Misuse of systems means the regulatory environment will get tougher than it is today. New social web 2.0 sites will have to learn to comply with new state and federal rules. It is not enough that they are catching predators, now we have to watch out for the adults that are misusing the system as well.

DARDENNE PRAIRIE, Mo. —  Megan Meier thought she had made a new friend in cyberspace when a cute teenage boy named Josh contacted her on MySpace and began exchanging messages with her. Megan, a 13-year-old who suffered from depression and attention deficit disorder, corresponded with Josh for more than a month before he abruptly ended their friendship, telling her he had heard she was cruel.

The next day Megan committed suicide. Her family learned later that Josh never actually existed; he was created by members of a neighborhood family that included a former friend of Megan's.

Now Megan's parents hope the people who made the fraudulent profile on the social networking Web site will be prosecuted, and they are seeking legal changes to safeguard children on the Internet.

The girl's mother, Tina Meier, said she doesn't think anyone involved intended for her daughter to kill herself.

"But when adults are involved and continue to screw with a 13-year- old, with or without mental problems, it is absolutely vile," she told the Suburban Journals of Greater St. Louis, which first reported on the case.

Tina Meier said law enforcement officials told her the case did not fit into any law. But sheriff's officials have not closed the case and pledged to consider new evidence if it emerges.

Megan Meier hanged herself in her bedroom on Oct. 16, 2006, and died the next day. She was described as a "bubbly, goofy" girl who loved hanging out with her friends, watching movies and fishing with her dad.

Megan had been on medication, but had been upbeat before her death, her mother said, after striking up a relationship on MySpace with Josh Evans about six weeks before her death.

Josh told her he was born in Florida and had recently moved to the nearby community of O'Fallon. He said he was homeschooled, and didn't yet have a phone number in the area to give her.

Megan's parents said she received a message from him on Oct. 15 of last year, essentially saying he didn't want to be her friend anymore, that he had heard she wasn't nice to her friends.

The next day, as Megan's mother headed out the door to take another daughter to the orthodontist, she knew Megan was upset about Internet messages. She asked Megan to log off. Users on MySpace must be at least 14, though Megan was not when she opened her account. A MySpace spokeswoman did not return calls seeking comment.

Someone using Josh's account was sending cruel messages. Then, Megan called her mother, saying electronic bulletins were being posted about her, saying things like, "Megan Meier is a ****. Megan Meier is fat."

Megan's mother, who monitored her daughter's online communications, returned home and said she was shocked at the vulgar language her own daughter was sending. She told her daughter how upset she was about it.

Megan ran upstairs, and her father, Ron, tried to tell her everything would be fine. About 20 minutes later, she was found in her bedroom. She died the next day.

Her father said he found a message the next day from Josh, which he said law enforcement authorities have not been able to retrieve. It told the girl she was a bad person and the world would be better without her, he has said.

Another parent, who learned of the MySpace account from her own daughter who had access to the Josh profile, told Megan's parents about the hoax in a counselor's office about six weeks after Megan died. That's when they learned Josh was imaginary, they said.

The woman who created the fake profile has not been charged with a crime. She allegedly told the St. Charles County Sheriff's Department she created Josh's profile because she wanted to gain Megan's confidence to know what Megan was saying about her own child online.

The mother from down the street told police that she, her daughter and another person all typed and monitored the communication between the fictitious boy and Megan.

A person who answered the door at the family's house told an Associated Press reporter on Friday afternoon that they had been advised not to comment.

Megan's parents had been storing a foosball table for the family that created the MySpace character. Six weeks after Megan's death, they learned the other family had created the profile and responded by destroying the foosball table, dumping it on the neighbors' driveway and encouraging them to move away.

Megan's parents are now separated and plan to divorce.

Aldermen in Dardenne Prairie, a community of about 7,000 residents about 35 miles from St. Louis, have proposed a new ordinance related to child endangerment and Internet harassment. It could come before city leaders on Wednesday.

"Is this enough?" Mayor Pam Fogarty said Friday. "No, not by any stretch of the imagination, but it's something, and you have to start somewhere."



Even tho Josh Evans was fictitious it shows the innate need of how girls need masculine input.  Feminists need to understand this and need to work to prevent more Megan Meier incidents.

This is the same type ****-culture I have to keep my nieces from getting sucked into.  I mean to tell a 13 year old that the world would better off without her by other women.

If feminists will take on the cuntras America would be better off.

No comment ladies ??  Huh
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« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2008, 03:05:01 am »

I just don't see how it has anything to do with feminism.

So, every guy that blows his head off is because he is seeking female approval and has self-esteem issues, too? 

Give me a break. 

I cn feel you grasping, but it's clear you don't really understand women one bit, Volitzer. Your loss.
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« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2008, 03:08:39 am »

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A woman's self-esteem is dependent on masculine attention.


Nah. A woman's self esteem is dependent upon how much respect she demands of herself, men have nothing to do with it.

And brother, I demand a lot of respect.

(And don't you forget it either.   Wink  )



Google Dr. Ellen Kriedman.  I'm not making this up.  All your prostitutes have had rotten relationships with their daddies.  So to get love and the masculine approval they need they turn to prostitution.

Nah, prostitutes don't do it for daddy issues, they do it for two reasons:  money and a sense of control.  You'd be surprised what guys will do to get some (I'm not anymore).
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« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2008, 01:45:26 pm »

I just don't see how it has anything to do with feminism.

Nothing really, the day of the feminist is long over.

So, every guy that blows his head off is because he is seeking female approval and has self-esteem issues, too? 

Give me a break.

Only women do because of their need for masculine approval.  It is something women can't live without.

I can feel you grasping, but it's clear you don't really understand women one bit, Volitzer. Your loss.

These are real issues that real American women need to address and not the phony neo-feminists' agenda.
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« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2008, 01:50:07 pm »


Nah, prostitutes don't do it for daddy issues, they do it for two reasons:  money and a sense of control.  You'd be surprised what guys will do to get some (I'm not anymore).

..and how would you know ??

Most dancers and guys I've known whom have gone to prostitutes say that "daddy issues" are at the heart and core of why they do what they do.
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