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George Erikson: "Lost Atlantis" & Other ORIGINALS

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« Reply #120 on: January 07, 2009, 07:06:21 pm »









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Brig,
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Andre,

Yes, more complicated from our perspective. You mentioned The Atlantis Blueprint as being Rand Flem-Ath's book. But Rand only wrote the Appendixes that begin on p. 319. Most of the book was written by Colin Wilson.

I mention this because I've always marveled at Colin's ability to place and inform the reader of a different framework of time. On p. 167 Wilson writes,

"These ancient peoples, unaware that precession arises from a mere wobble on the axis, regarded the precession of the equinoxes as of tremendous religious significance, largely becuase they believed that the end of each age brings some immense catastrophe."

Were they ignorant of other forces on Earth's obliquity? It may not matter if they have correctly recorded our position as related to the houses of the zodiac.

And if they have recorded them as a stately and gradual movement for 12,500 years -- as Tiawanku and the Sphinx (and the ceiling zodiac engraving at Dendera) suggest -- then do they not refute Flem-Ath's notion of recent pole shifts?


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« Reply #121 on: January 07, 2009, 07:07:27 pm »










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Well George, those ideas of Flem-Ath are vague and debunked by other mechanisms.

For my RTPW you could argue that the spin axis of Earth and it's precession of the equinoxes was hardly affected other than some secundair effects, so the sequencing of the signs of the zodiac was unaltered.
What did happen was a wandering of the mantle Lithosphere with as main consequence, a change in lattitude and a change of the North direction hence all the the zenith positions changed.

The last port of the movement of the North Pole wandering may have been from North Scandandinavia - Spitsbergen to the current position. Being on about the same longitude with Egypt, this would not have affect the N/S orientation too much over there. And the near perfect NS alignment of the great Pyramid confirms its conventional construction theory.

I believe that the Angkor temples is a different story though.
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« Reply #122 on: January 07, 2009, 07:08:12 pm »









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The last movement of the North pole was in 10500 BC. It moved from Hudson Bay to present position. As you put it; “wandering of the mantle Lithosphere”

The layout of the temples around Ankor Wat shows the position of the stars of Draco as it appeared in the sky above Ankor Wat in 10500 BC .

Cool eh?
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Way cool!

However, no one has given any substantial proof the the pole shifted from Hudson Bay to its present position.

Indeed the Precession of the Equinoxes seem to suggest that the pole has not moved at all.

Only the perception of a change in the pole has occurred, due to the wobble.   
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« Reply #124 on: January 07, 2009, 07:10:01 pm »









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George, just a question. Do AR get personal, signed autographed books from you? And, maybe a discount?

 Just kidding.

Actually, I absolutely agree that it is no coincidence that 10,500 - 12,000 keep showing up.

It's very obvious & very clear that something monumentally catastrophic happened during this time. That is why I believe Plato's description is accurate.   
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« Reply #125 on: January 07, 2009, 07:10:48 pm »








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Smiley,


You can get signed books from me personally but I can't realy offer a discount because my publisher is not so generous.


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I have an autographed copy of Georges book Smiley. I'm sure you would enjoy it. 
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Well, Andre and NileQueen and I have discussed this (precession) amongst ourselves, and speaking for myself, I'd tend to agree that ancients oriented their structures to some astronomically significant feature (due north, due east, spring/fall equinox, summer/winter solstice, etc.). OK, so then a big anomaly with that logic is the "Avenue of the Dead" at Teotihuacan (Mexico):

http://archaeology.la.asu.edu/teo/intro/citymp1.htm

The "Avenue of the Dead" is off-set from true north ~17 degrees (as best as I can approximate with a protractor on the screen - lol - lazy bastard that I am. I think I've read it's 19 degrees. But that's Hoagland, and he's got a thing for 19 degrees. Tetrahedral geometry and all. Maybe I should just print it.....nah, F' it). So, as far as I know, there is nothing significant about that angle from true north.

It would be 'wonderful' if Teotihuacan could be dated back to 12,500 B.P., and we could speculate that the "Avenue of the Dead" pointed true-north..... "Unfortunately,"  archeology is limiting the site to about ca. 200 B.C. for earliest habitation (from the same link).

Anyway, I find the axis orientation of the "Avenue of the Dead" at Teotihuacan 'anomalous' from other famous sites, but maybe that's due to my lack of exposure to less famous sites. But, maybe it is anomalous, and somebody should check it out.
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« Reply #128 on: January 07, 2009, 07:14:45 pm »










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Daffy,

I'm flying to the Yuctan in 2 days, will drive with a party of archaeology students and an architect who investigates ancient sites -- Jack Althouse. Jack will do a flyover of the Teotihuacan site. We'll report back (in 3 weeks) on any new discoveries. (We have some ideas but are not prepared to put them out until we get verification).


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Cool, George. Have a good trip. Let us know of anything exciting.

And yes, you were the "somebody" I was thinking about when I said "maybe... somebody should check
it out."

Oh, and I'll speculate a bit (for your benefit, of course). Accepting the archeologist date for Teotihuacan, it is possible that the angle of the "Avenue of the Dead" was oriented to magnetic North. Of course, that would imply that the Zapotec/Toltec/Aztec (whomever)

1) knew of magnetism, and
2), had a need to use it (i.e., navigation).


There are theories (I don't know if they are academically accepted, or just 'crackpotted') that the reflecting pools along the "Avenue of the Dead" were for earthquake warning - standing water is disturbed by the p-waves of earthquakes, that arrive before the actual physical shock.

But (speculation warning), if they knew/used magnetism, the same pools would support a small flotation device with a magnetized needle, or magnetic mineral (i.e., a compass).

And, who needs a compass? Navigators?

Just a thought.



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