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"He [Solon] also spent some time in studies with Psenophis of Heliopolis [in Egypt] and Sonkhis of Sais, who were very learned priests. From these, as Plato says, he heard the story of the lost Atlantis, and tried to introduce it in a poetical form to the Greeks." - Plutarch, Solon 26.1

"Plato, ambitious to elaborate and adorn the subject of the lost Atlantis, as if it were the soil of a fair estate unoccupied, but appropriately his by virtue of some kinship with Solon, began the work by laying out great porches, enclosures, and courtyards, such as no story, tale, or poesy ever had before. But he was late in beginning, and ended his life before his work. Therefore the greater our delight in what he actually wrote, the greater is our distress in view of what he left undone. For as the Olympieion in the city of Athens, so the tale of the lost Atlantis in the wisdom of Plato is the only one among many beautiful works to remain unfinished." - Plutarch, Solon 32.1

"Those who live on the shores of Okeanos tell a fable of how the ancient kings of Atlantis, sprung from the seed of Poseidon, wore upon their head the bands from the male Ram-fish, as an emblem of their authority, while their wives, the queens, wore the curls of the females as a proof of theirs." - Aelian, On Animals 15.2

"There is reported to be another island off [African] Mount Atlas [in the Atlantic], itself also called Atlantis, from which a two days’ voyage along the coast reaches the desert district in the neighbourhood of the Western Aethiopes and the cape mentioned above as the Horn of the West, the point at which the coastline begins to curve westward in the direction of the Atlantic." - Pliny, Natural History 6.199


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Plato, Timaeus - Greek Philosophy C4th BC
Plato, Critias - Greek Philosophy C4th BC
Plutarch, Lives - Greek Historian C1st-2nd AD
Aelian, On Animals - Greek Natural History C2nd - C3rd AD
Pliny the Elder, Natural History - Latin Natural History C1st AD

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FRESH WATER GODS:

THE 3000 OKEANIDES (Clouds)
(Some Listed Below)
OKEANOS (River Ocean)
= (1) Tethys


STYX (River of Hades)
= Pallas
DAEIRA (Knowledge)
+ Hermes



NEDA
HAGNO
THEIOSA
KAPHEIRA
DIONE
+ Zeus

METIS (Counsel)
- Zeus
TYKHE (Fortune)
PEITHO (Persuasion)
= Hermes
PLOUTO (Wealth)
TELESTO (Success)

KLYMENE (Fame/Infamy)
= Iapetos
= Merops *
+ Helios

EURYNOME
= Ophion
+ Zeus

PHILYRE
+ Kronos

DORIS
= Nereus

ELEKTRA (Amber-colour)
= Thaumas
IANTHE (Violet-colour)
RHODEIA (Rose-colour)
KHRYSEIS (Gold-colour)
XANTHE (Yellow-colour)
PETRAIE (Stoney-grey-colour)
POROS (Expediency)
.

PLEIONE (Many)
+ Atlas
ASIA / HESIONE (Continent Asia)
= Prometheus
EUROPE (Continent Europe)
LIBYA (Continent Africa)

PERSEIS
+ Helios
EIDYIA
= Aeetes *
KLYTIA
OKYRRHOE

KALLIRHOE
= Khrysaor

NEPHELE (1)
= Athamas *
NEPHELE (2)
- Ixion *
ASTEROPE
EPHYRA
DODONE
KAMARINA
MELIBOEA
= Pelasgos *

LEUKE


[THE KENTAUROI (Centaurs) *
NESSOS *
EURYTION *
HYLONOME *
PETRAIOS
ASBOLOS
ARKTOS
OUREIOS
MIMAS
PEUKEUS
PERIMEDES
DRYALOS
RHOIKOS
HYLAIOS
Others




MELIA
= Inakhos
THE 5 NYSIADES

THE 60 YMPHAI OF ARTEMIS

Others



THE POTAMOI (Rivers)
(Some Listed Below) THE NAIADES (Fresh-Water Nymphs)
(Some Listed Below)


KOKYTOS (River of Hades)
.
PYRIPHLEGETHON (River of Hades)

LETHE (River of Hades)


THE KOKYTHIAI
MINTHA
? ORPHNE / GORGYRA
...= Akheron


KHREMETES (River of Libya) ANKHIROE
= Psyllos *




..
NEILOS (River of Aigyptos)
= Kallirrhoe

.
.
HYDASPES (River of India)
= Astris



MEMPHIS
= Epaphos *
ANKHINOE
= Belos *
KALIADNE
+ Aigyptos *
POLYXO
+ Danaus *
ANIPPE
KHIONE


LAMOS (River of Phoinikia) THE LAMIDES THE KENTAUROI
. . . . . . . . . . . . . ..... . . . OF DIONYSOS

KYDOS (River of Kilikia) THE KYDNIDES




MAIANDROS (River of Karia)
.
.

IMBRASOS (River of Samos)
+ Khesias

KAYSTROS (River of Lydia)
MELES (River of Lydia)
HERMOS (River of Lydia)
PAKTOLOS (River of Lydia)
GYGE (Lake of Lydia)



SAMIA
= Ankaios *
KYANEA
= Miletos *
? SALMAKIS
OKYRRHOE
NYMPHAI x2



KAIKOS (River of Teuthrania) OKYRRHOE




.
SKAMANDROS (River of Troad)

.

.
.

SIMOEIS (River of Troad)



.


THE TROIADES
KALLIRHOE
= Tros * GANYMEDES
STRYMO
= Laomedon *
GLAUKIA
+ Deimakhos *
THE TROIADES
ASTYOKHE
= Erikhthonios *
HIEROMNEME
= Assarakos *



KEBREN (River of Troad)

OINONE *
= Paris *
HESPERIA *
= Aisakos *




AISEPOS (River of Troad)
GRENIKOS (River of Troad)

RHESOS (River of Troad)
RHODIOS (River of Troad)
HEPTAPOROS (River of Troad)

PARTHENIOS (River of Paphlagonia)
.


ABARBARE
+ Boukolion *
ALEXIRHOE
+ Priamos *
PEGASIS
+ Emathion *




ASKANIOS (River of Mysia)
SAGGARIOS (River of Phrygia)
+ Kybele

PHASIS (River of Kholkis)

ISTROS (River of Skythia)
.


MYSIAN NAIADES
NANA
NIKAIA
+ Dionysos
ALKE
OKYRHOE
+ Hippomedon *




NESTOS (River of Thrake)
HEBROS (River of Thrake)
? THRONIA




STRYMON (River of Thrake)
+ Neaera
.

AXIOS (River of Paionia)
HALIAKMON (River of Makedonia)



EUADNE
+ Argos *
RHODOPE
= Haimos *
TEREINE
+ Ares THRASSA




.
PENEIOS (River of Thessalia)
+ Kreusa

.
ENIPEUS (River of Thessalia)



THE THESSALIDES
DAPHNE
STILBE
MENIPPE
+ Pelasgos *
HYPSEUS * KYRENE
________________....._+ Apollon

SPERKHEIOS (River of Malis)

THE SPERKHEIDES
DIOPATRE
DRYOPS *
= Polydore DRYOPE


KEPHISSOS (River of Phokis)


LILAIA
DAULIS
MELAINA
THYIA
THE KEPHISIDES
? MIDEIA
? HERKYNA
? TELPHOUSA
? GARGATHIA



.
PLEISTOS (River of Phokis)


THE KORYKIAI
KORYKIA
? KASSOTIS
? KLEODORA


ISMENOS (River of Boiotia)

DIRKE
STROPHIA
ISMENIS


TERMESSOS (River of Boiotia) AGANIPPE




ILISSOS (River of Attika)
KEPHISSOS (River of Attika)
PHARMAKEIA
DIOGENIA




.
.

.

ASOPOS (River of Argos & Boiotia)
= Metope / Methone



AIGINA
SALAMIS
NEMEA
HARPINA
THEBE
ANTIOPE
PLATAIA
THESPIA
TANAGRA
OEROE
EUBOIA
+ Polybos * GLAUKOS
KORKYRA
SINOPE
PEIRENE
KLEONE
ISMENE
ASOPIS
ORNIA
KHALKIS
? ANTHEDON
? THISBE
? THE LEIBETHRIDES


.
ASTERION (River of Argos)

AKRAIA
PROSYMNA
EUBOIA



.
INAKHOS (River of Argos)

MYKENE
KALLITHYIA
PHILODIKE
IO
AMYMONE
MESSEIS
HYPEREIA
? PHYSADEIA
? HIPPE
? AUTOMATE
? LANGIA


ERASINOS (River of Argos)


ANKHINOE
BYZE
MELITE
MOIRA


EUROTAS (River of Lakonia)


SPARTE
= Lakediamon *
TIASA
PITANE
? BATEIA
= Oibalos *
? PERIBOIA
= Ikarios *


LADON (River of Arkadia)
= Stymphalis


METOPE
= Asopos
THELPOUSA
THEMIS
SYRINX




ERYMANTHOS (River of Arkadia)
ALPHEIOS (River of Arkadia & Elis)
KLADEOS (River of Elis)




KYTHEROS (River of Elis)
ANIGROS (River of Elis)
THE 4 IONIDES
THE ANIGRIDES




EUENOS (River of Aitolia)
..
AKHELOIOS (River of Aitolia)
+ Melpomene



THE AKHELOIDES
KALLIRRHOE
= Alkmaion *
KASTALIA
THE 3 SEIRENES (Sirens) *
THELXINOE
MOLPE
AGLAOPHONE




AMNISOS (River of Krete)
INOPOS (River of Delos)
THE AMNISIADES
THE DELIADES



AIGAIOS (River of Skheria)
.
SYMAITHOS (River of Sikelia)

ERIDANOS (River of N. Europe)

THE AIGAIONIDES
MELITE
SYMAITHIS
+ Pan AKIS (River of Sikelia)



OKEANOS (River Ocean)
+ (2) Gaia (Earth)
AKHERON (River of Hades)
= Orphne / Gorgyra .
ASKALAPHOS



KREUSA
= Peneios
TRIPTOLEMOS


+ (3) Parthenope
EUROPE
THRAKE

+ (4) Theia

THE 2 KERKOPES *
AKMON
PASSALOS


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The Pelasgian Creation Myth

Adapted from Robert Graves’ The Greek Myths by Dr. James Luchte


In the beginning, Eurynome,
The Goddess of All Things,
Rose naked from Chaos.

She found nothing upon
Which to rest her feet, and thus,
She divided the sea from the sky.

She danced lonely upon
The waves of the sea.

She danced towards the South, and
The Wind set in motion behind her
Seemed something new and strange
With which to begin a work of creation.

Wheeling about, she caught hold of
This North wind, rubbed it between
Her hands, and behold!
The great serpent Ophion.

Eurynome danced to warm herself, wildly
And more wildly, until Ophion, enchanted,
Coiled about her divine limbs
Becoming one with her.

As she lay with the Ophion,
Eurynome was got with child.

Eurynome assumed the form of a dove,
Brooding upon the waves and with time,
She laid the Universal Egg.

At her bidding, Ophion coiled seven times
About this egg, until it hatched and split into two.

Out tumbled all things that exist, her children:
Sun, moon, planets, stars, Earth with her mountains
Rivers, trees, herbs, and all living creatures.

Eurynome and Ophion made their home upon
Mount Olympus where he vexed her by
Claiming to be the author of the Universe.

Forthwith, she bruised his head with her heel,
Kicked out his teeth, and banished him to the
Dark caves below the Earth.

Eurynome opened her gaze and her arms to her
Children, giving each its name which she read
Off its own singular power and being.

She named the sun, moon, planets, stars and
The Earth with her mountains and rivers, trees,
Herbs and living creatures.

She took joy in her creation, but soon found
Herself alone desiring the face, voice,
ear and warmth of another of her own.

Eurynome stood up and once again
Began to dance alone upon the waves.

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http://www.timelessmyths.com/classical/creation.html#Hesiod
Theogony of Hesiod

Hesiod was a Boeotian poet of either the 8th or 7th century BC, who is believed by many to flourish not long after Homer. Hesiod had written two poems, Works and Days and the Theogony. Both works can actually be combined to form an adequate Creation myth, though I had mostly relied on the Theogony.

The Theogony begins with Chaos and end with Zeus' reign, and it included the tale of Titanomachia, which is the war between the Titans and the Olympians. You will also find the about Prometheus and the Deluge.

It is in Works and Days, where you would find Hesiod's account of the Five Ages of Man, as well as the myth of Prometheus and Pandora. Prometheus stealing fire is also found in the other poem.

Below is the myth of Creation, where I have relied mainly on Hesiod's version, but my other sources included Apollodorus' Library and Ovid's Metamorphoses, to supplement Hesiod's myth.
Beginning
War in Heaven and on Earth
Typhon
Rise of the Olympians
Underworld, see House of Hades
Five Ages of Man
Saviour of Mankind
Deluge

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Homeric Creation

In the Iliad, Homer had only briefly alluded to the creation. Hera seduced Zeus at Mount Ida, in the hope of turning the tide against the Trojans, by lulling her husband to sleep. To seduce Zeus, Hera required aids from other gods.

First, she sought aid from Aphrodite, the goddess of love. Hera wanted to borrow Aphrodite's girdle, which would make irresistibly seductive. Hera lied to Aphrodite saying that she wish to the relationship between Oceanus and Tethys, who had raised her. In fact, she was using it in the hope to seduce Zeus. Hera says that "...to see Oceanus, from whom the gods arose, and Mother Tethys" (quoted from Robert Fitzgerald's translation, Book XIV 199).

She used Hypnos to lull Zeus to sleep. Hypnos boasted to Hera that he could even lull Oceanus to slumber, "...the primal source of all that lives" (Book XIV 258-61). However, Hypnos was reluctant to help Hera, because the first time he helped her, he was almost thrown into the deep sea. Fearing Zeus' rage, Hypnos had to take refuge with his mother, Nyx (Night). Powerful as Zeus was, he feared the "all-subduing Night (Nyx)".

When she meet Zeus, Hera lied to him, when she mentioned Oceanus and Tethys that she wanted to patch their relationship up, since they have not slept together in a single bed, since they had last quarrel. Hera was saying the same thing that she said to Aphrodite moment before. (Book XIV 301-304).

To Homer, Oceanus and Tethys were more than Titans; they were referred to as the World Parents (Creators), displacing Uranus and Gaea, or that of Cronus and Rhea. Oceanus have a stream that completely circumvented the earth, which was a flat round disk. And Tethys was the mother of the gods.

Homer was more interested about the war at Troy, than about the Creation, so much have been left unsaid.

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Orphic Creation

The Orphic Creation Myth is another scenario of the Cosmic Egg origin, but without the Creator Goddess, Eurynome (see Eurynome and Ophion).

Behind the myth, is the religion of salvation for the human's soul. This religion was named after the mythical singer, Orpheus, who was reputedly said to be the founder of the Orphic Mysteries.

In the beginning, there was Time, which the Greeks called Chronus or Khronos. This was a period called the Unaging Time, when nothing existed and nothing grew old; indeterminate and (almost) limitless time, which some people would call Aeon. Existing at the same time as Chronus was Adrasteia, or Ananke, meaning "Necessity".

Chronus and Adrasteia combined to create primordial Spirit and Matter, which were called Aether and Chaos. (Hesiod had referred to Aether as the upper atmosphere, where the air was clean and pure; he referred to Aether as male entity, while in the Orphic myth, Aether was seen as female being. Chaos was fathomless void, abyss or the yawning gap. With Hesiod, Chaos was a male primordial being, whereas in Orphic myth, the role had changed.) A third primordial being came out of Time and Necessity, Erebus – "Darkness". Chronus then combined with Aether, or possibly with Chaos and Aether, so the primeval beings caused mists to form and solidify into a Cosmic Egg.

The Orphic myth was not the only one to use the Egg motif for their cosmogony. The World Egg can be found in many different Creation myths, such as from Egypt, Persia and India. After all the egg was the symbol of new birth and new life. That the god and the world were created from the Cosmic Egg. It wasn't even original idea in Greek myths. The Athenian comedy playwright, Aristophanes, wrote in the Birds that Nyx (Night) laid the egg, which Eros (Love) was born from. In Apollonius' epic, Argonautica, It was Eurynome who created the Egg, which the world as we know it, came into existence.

The Cosmic Egg was the first definable matter that was created out of infinity. The World Egg was gigantic and silver in colour. When the great resplendent, silver Egg hatched, out sprang Protogonus, which literally means First-born, the first god. According to one Neo-Platonist writer, the Egg shell split in two: the two shells forming heaven and earth.

Protogonus has known by several other names, such as Phanes, the god of light; Ericapaeus "Power", and Metis, which means "Intelligence". Writers often called him – Phanes. As Phanes, he was the primeval sun god with golden wings. He has four eyes, which allowed him to look in any direction. He was said to possess a number of heads in the shapes of various animals. He had a voice of bull and that of a lion. Though, he was said to be invisible, he radiated pure light.

Protogonus had been identified with Eros (Love); Hesiod's Eros was also an earlier god, born at the same time as Gaea and Tartarus. Sometimes, Phanes was called Dionysus; if this is the case, then he was the first of three incarnations of Dionysus.

Though people speak of him as a god, Protogonus/Phanes was in fact an androgynous being. Without a partner, he conceived and gave birth to Nyx (Night). (Different accounts say that it was Nyx, who laid the Cosmic Egg, therefore she was Protogonus' mother, not his daughter.)

Protogonus (Phanes) was the first supreme ruler of heaven. Either Nyx ruled with Protogonus or on her own. Some times later, he lay with his own daughter, and then he became the father of Earth and Heaven, which they were named Gaea and Uranus. So it was Protogonus who created the earth and heaven. It was also Protogonus who had created the Golden Age of Man.

Nyx ruled after Protogonus, before she abdicated in favour of her son, Uranus, who made Gaea as his consort.

What follow is similar to Hesiod's Theogony. Heaven and Earth were the parents of the three Hundred-Handed (Hecatoncheires) and the three Cyclopes. They were also the parents of the Titans; they had seven sons and seven daughters (see the tables for the list of the children of Uranus and Gaea, in the Titans page).

Among Uranus' children was Cronus, the evil Titan, who dethroned his father. In Hesiod's account, it was Gaea who conspired with his son, to rid of her husband, but in the Orphic myth, it was both Nyx and Gaea who brought about Uranus' downfall, using the Titans. Cronus castrated Uranus and threw his father's genitals into the sea. Foam formed in the sea, which drifted until it reach Cyprus and the love goddess Aphrodite sprung out of the sea.

Rhea was Cronus' consort, as well as his sister. In the Orphic myth, she was also confused with Demeter (Ceres), the corn goddess. Perhaps, Demeter was another aspect of Rhea. Cronus and Rhea had 6 children, including Zeus. Like Hesiod's Theogony, Cronus swallowed each child that Rhea bore him, except his youngest child, Zeus. Rhea hid the infant Zeus in a cave. Rhea wrapped a stone in swaddling clothes and gave it to her husband, which Cronus promptly swallowed, thinking he had swallowed his latest baby. Her name changed into Demeter, after Rhea gave birth to Zeus.

The Cretan nymphs Adrasteia and Idaea brought up Zeus, whom they fed milk of the goat Amaltheia. The Curetes had also assisted the nymphs.

How Zeus became the new supreme ruler of universe, which is a different variation to Hesiod's account. Zeus used honey to make Cronus drunk, disgorging Zeus' siblings, before Zeus dismembered his father, just as had Cronus done with his own father (Uranus).

It was Nyx (Night) who had advised Zeus to swallow her father/consort, Protogonus (Phanes), the first god and the original Creator. Zeus swallowed Protogonus and the entire universe that Protogonus had created, which included the other gods. With Protogonus in his belly, Zeus gained new power and knowledge, which he used to create a new universe. Whole new sun, planets, stars, mountains, land and seas were recreated. The other gods were also reborn.

Zeus ruled supreme, but he shared the world with his brothers: Poseidon received the sea and Hades got the subterranean domain of the dead, the netherworld (Underworld). Zeus ruled the sky, but they all shared the earth.

Zeus had married many times. He had as many as seven wives, and three of them were his own sisters: Hestia, Demeter (or Rhea) and Hera. (Well, sometimes Demeter, as Rhea, was seen as Zeus' mother.)

Zeus had many children from various wives and mistresses. Some of these children became important deities; among them were Athena, Hermes, Apollo and Artemis, Ares and Hephaestus. See the Olympians page.

From Demeter, Zeus, became the father of Persephone (Kore). Demeter and Persephone were living in the Dictean cave of the island Crete, where they were guarded by snakes.

(According to other writers, after Zeus had overthrown his father Cronus, Rhea or Demeter tried to escape from nuptials with her own son, by assuming the form of snake. Zeus also turned himself into a snake and raped Rhea. So that Rhea (Demeter) became the mother of Persephone.)

Zeus wanted a son to one-day rule in his place, and decided that his own daughter, Kore or Persephone, would be the mother of that son. Zeus secretly transformed himself into a snake, and lay with his daughter. Persephone became pregnant and became the mother of Dionysus (Zagreus).

Earlier Orphic writers called him Dionysus, but the Neoplatonist writers, sometimes called him Zagreus. The Neoplatonists also believed that Dionysus/Zagreus was a reincarnation of Protogonus/Phanes, whom Zeus had swallowed earlier. For the sake of convenience I will call Dionysus, son of Persephone, as Zagreus, so we can distinguish one Dionysus from the other.

While Zagreus was still an infant, Zeus placed the sceptre in his son's tiny hand, and announced before all the gods that Zagreus will become their new ruler.

Zeus' other wife, Hera, was jealous that Zagreus would become the next ruler of the gods; so she incited the Titans to murder the infant Zagreus (Dionysus). The Titans, who were dispossessed, became Zeus' worse enemies, so they readily agreed.

The Titans painted their face white, and they lured the infant Zagreus from the safety of the cave, with toys, such as mirror, doll, knuckle bones, and spin-top called bull-roarer. Zagreus left the cave before he realised that he was in danger. Zagreus tried to escape, by assuming various transformations. When the Titans caught him, they tore him to pieces before they devoured him. Athena arrived in time to save the Zagreus' heart, which she brought to her father. Athena had managed to keep the heart alive and beating, by breathing life into it.

Enraged that the Titans had attacked his son, Zeus hurled his mighty thunderbolts, blasting the Titans to ashes. From the ashes of the Titans, mankind rose.

(The dual natures of the Orphic belief come from that all men have two different natures: good and evil, earthly and spiritual (immortal), Dionysiac and Titanic. Since the Titans had consumed Dionysus, the evil nature comes from the Titans, while good comes from the Dionysiac part. To gain entry to Elysium, the initiated of the Orphic Mysteries must live a good, ascetic life in three separate incarnations. See Orphic Mysteries.)

It was still Zeus' intention to leave the kingship of the universe to one of his sons, and that son would have been Zageus/Dionysus. Zeus swallowed Zagreus' heart, and visited a mortal woman, named Semele, daughter of Cadmus, king of Thebes, whom he seduced and made pregnant. (According to Hyginus, Zeus created mead out of Zagreus' heart, which he gave to Semele to drink. This was how she became pregnant.)

The myth of Semele's death and the birth of Dionysus is the same with usual myth about Dionysus. The jealous Hera duped Semele into asking for a fatal boon from Zeus, which she died, but Zeus saved the unborn child, by sewing the baby into his thigh. When it was time, Dionysus was born again, from the thigh of Zeus. (Hyginus omitted about Dionysus being born from Zeus' thigh.)

Dionysus was a reincarnation of the god Zagreus, son of Persephone.

There is also an Orphic version, of the abduction and **** of Persephone (Kore) by Hades, and the myth of Demeter's wandering. Several aspects of the myth of Demeter and Persephone have also changed.

Since Dionysus' life in the Orphic myth is the same told elsewhere, the Orphic Creation ends here. But there is no doubt that when the time came, Zeus would step down from the throne; Dionysus would ascend, and be crowned.

According to the Orphic myths, six rulers had reign in heaven: Protogonus/Phanes, Nyx, Uranus, Cronus, Zeus and Dionysus. Dionysus was the reincarnation of Zagreus/Dionysus, as well as the reincarnation of Protogonus.

If you are interested in learning more about the Orphic Mysteries then I would suggest that you go to the Mysteries page.

In Hesiod's account about the creation, he only mentioned Cronus swallowing his children: Hestia, Demeter, Hera, Poseidon and Hades, and later on Zeus swallowing the pregnant Metis.

In the Orphic myths, the cannibalism of the gods is even more evident. Cronus swallowed his children; Zeus swallowed Phanes/Protogonus and the entire universe; Zeus swallowed Metis; the Titans devoured Dionysus/Zagreus and Zeus swallowing the heart of Dionysus/Zagreus. It seemed that birth follow by death, which in turn is then followed by rebirth.

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Cosmogony of Diodorus Siculus

According to the 1st century BC historian, Diodorus Siculus, Oceanus and Tethys were the source of all gods.

To Diodorus, Uranus was the first king, and not really a god at all. Uranus was the first to gather people together into the first walled city, giving them laws, and teaching to how grow their crops and store food.

Uranus was also an astronomer and astrologer, who could foresee the future, and made many predictions.

Uranus was the father of forty-five sons from different wives, but it was from his consort Titaea, that eighteen of his sons became known as the Titans. She had also bore many daughters, including Basileia and Rhea. When Titaea died, she was deified as the goddess, whose name was Ge (Gaea).

Basileia was the eldest, and had reared her brothers, which was why she was known as the Great Mother. Basileia would be identified as Hesiod's Theia, because of her relationship with her brother and children, but Diodorus also identified her with the Phrygian goddess, Cybele. She ruled after her father's death and deification, also as a god. She had married her brother, Hyperion, and became the mother of Helius and Selene.

Her other brothers (Titans) were jealous and feared that Hyperion would keep the royal power to himself. The Titans conspired to remove Hyperion, so they killed him and threw Helius into Eridanus River, where her son drowned. In her grief, Selene threw herself off the high city wall.

Basileia sought along the Eridanus to find her son's body, until she dropped from exhaustion. Here, she had a vision of her son, telling her no to grieve for him or his sister, because they were transformed into the sun god and moon goddess. The Titans would also be punished for their crime.

When Basileia recovered from her swoon, she told her people about her vision, before she was seized by madness, wandering the land with her daughter's playthings, such as the kettledrums and cymbals. One day, in a thunderstorm, she vanished, and her people assumed that she had been transformed into a goddess. They erect an altar in her honour.

After the death of Hyperion and Basileia, the kingdom was divided between her brothers, Atlas and Cronus. Atlas became the ancestor of the Atlantides, the people in western Libya, giving the name to Mount Atlas. Because Atlas was a great astronomer and astrologer, he published the book on the doctrine of the sphere. It was for this reason, why Atlas was usually seen as a man holding the heaven on his shoulders. Atlas was the father of a son, named Hesperus, and of seven daughters, known as the Pleiades.

As to Atlas' brother, Cronus was a greedy and impious ruler, who married his sister Rhea. She bore him Zeus, one of the Olympian. Diodorus also mentioned another Zeus, who was brother of Uranus and king of Crete. Cronus was the king of Libya, Sicily and Italy.

Zeus won the kingdom in a war against his father and the Titans. Unlike his father, Zeus was virtuous ruler - wise and just, and when he died, the people claimed he became god and ruler of the universe.

At this point, Diodorus then give us a brief summary on a few different myths about Dionysus (III 63. 3-5). They are different because Diodorus believed that there are three people with the name Dionysus.

The first Dionysus, he said was the eldest - Dionysus of India. Diodorus say it was here, where he taught the Indian the cultivation of vine and making of wine.

The second Dionysus was the son of Zeus and Persephone (III 64. 1-2). It is this Dionysus that was murdered by the Titans, like in the Orphic myth. Dionysus was the first person to yoke a plough to an ox, as well as other skills needed for agriculture.

Though earlier in Book III 62. 3-7, Diodorus says that he called Dionysus the son of Demeter, instead of Persephone. The Titans had torn the young Dionysus to pieces, and boiled his flesh, but Demeter (his mother) gathered to pieces together and he was reborn. Zeus destroyed the Titans for the murder of his son. See the Orphic Creation.

The third Dionysus was the son of Zeus and Semele, where he was born at Thebes. He was popularly known as Bacchus among the Greeks and Romans. See Semele about the birth of Dionysus.

Diodorus also give a brief description of Orpheus involvement in with Dionysus and founding of the new Orphic religion.

As it can be seen in this article, Diodorus' myth is different from Hesiod's creation. Actually most of it was his invention. Diodorus tried to rationalize well-known myths, where made the gods mortal, who became deified only at their death, as gods or goddesses.

The most striking part is the death of Dionysus by the Titans, which is similar to the Orphic cosmogony. It is the earliest version we know of Dionysus in regarding to him being the son of Persephone and his death.

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Eurynome and Ophion

According to Apollonius Rhodius, who mentioned a creation myth that was very different from that of Hesiod's Theogony. Apollonius' account is very short and rather sketchy.


Apollonius begins the myth, as one of the songs sang by Orpheus after the departure of the Argonauts from Iolcus. Orpheus was the mythical bard who had joined Jason and the Argonauts in the Quest.

Orpheus sang a song about how the world was originally cast in one single mould; the earth, sky and sea was all mixed up in this mould, until the mould was tore sunder from some internal turmoil within the Cosmic Egg. All of the sudden, the earth, sea and heaven were separated; mountains rose from the sea, while the sun and moon and stars travelled followed their path through the sky (something like the Big Bang).

Two of the earliest beings came into existence, during the creation of the world. One was named Eurynome, daughter of the Ocean (Oceanus), while her consort was named Ophion. Together they ruled the entire universe from Olympus.

But one day, the Titans Cronus and Rhea had violently displaced Ophion and Eurynome from Olympus. They had flung Ophion and Eurynome into the Ocean (as opposed to being confined in Tartarus, like in Hesiod's Theogony).

While Cronus and Rhea ruled the world and the Titans, Zeus was living in the Dictaean cave (in Crete), as an infant, long before he received the mighty thunderbolt from the Cyclopes.

The account ended here.

Apollonius did not give much detail at all. I had some difficulties in finding out if Apollonius had got this from another source or did he invent this little account, by himself. It was discovered that myth about Eurynome, as the creator-goddess, was said to be much older than the Theogony, which was written by Hesiod in the 7th century BC.

Apollonius had only mentioned Zeus as an infant in a cave in Crete, as well as a mention that one day he would wield the thunderbolt, forged by the Cyclopes, like in Hesiod's account. However, Apollonius doesn't complete his song told by Orpheus, where like in Hesiod's myth, Zeus displaced the Titans.

A more detail account was found on Eurynome and Ophion that was quite different from Apollonius' allusion on the creation. This is said to be the myth of the original race or inhabitants in Greece, who were known as the Pelasgians.

(Before I end here, I would like to say that I have taken part of this article out, concerning the so-called Pelasgian Creation Myth, which is different to that of Apollonius' account. This myth was recreated by Robert Graves, a famous contemporary mythographer and author of a number of books, including The White Goddess (I haven't read this), and The Greek Myths, which is where I got the PCM (Pelasgian Creation Myth) from. He was the only person I know who wrote this version of Eurynome and the Cosmic Egg.

Although PCM was very interesting, I am rather dubious of Mr Graves' account, which he has said to reconstruct from various sources. What I am doubtful is his reconstruction, which was more of his elaboration and invention than genuine myths from the Pelasgians. Until I can find more authentic sources that resembled Graves' account, I am afraid that the Pelasgian Creation Myth will no longer posted here. I am sorry if I had caused any inconvenience.)

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Origin of the Greek Gods

The Beginning
The Reign of the Titans

The Rise of the Gods
The Affairs of the Gods

The Heroic Age
The Hellenic Wars

The Spartan Archaic Age
The Athenian Classical Age

The Hellenistic Age
The Roman Age

Greek King Lists
Family of the Gods and Heroes


Origin of the Greek Gods

According to the early Christian church fathers the ancient Greeks believed that their Gods were originally real people who their ancestors deified and to whom they prescribed divine rites derived from the Egyptians and Phoenicians whose Gods were also once mortal men.

“[Diodorus] The gods, they say, had been originally mortal men, but gained their immortality on account of wisdom and public benefits to mankind, some of them having also become kings: and some have the same names, when interpreted, with the heavenly deities, while others have received a name of their own, as Helios, and Kronos, and Rhea, and Zeus,” (Eusebius: The Preparation of the Gospel Book 2.1)

In the Preparation of the Gospel Eusebius quoting from original Greek sources tells how the Hellenic religion was created from the corruption of written histories that dated back to the time of Ahmose I and even earlier. Over the generations the biographies of the kings of Greece and the events which occurred during their reigns were mixed up with Egyptian theology by the poets and the caretakers of the tombs of these kings and thus the kings were turned into Gods, their tombs into temples and the caretakers into priests. Centuries later because of the imperfections of the Gods characters, their incestuous relationships, the wars they waged against their own offspring and their bizarre initiation ceremonies Socrates thought that their acts should best be left to be forgotten by no longer being taught and a new form of natural philosophy should be adopted. Fortunately Socrates view did not prevail and the true history of the kings that became the Gods remains to be reconstructed.

The Beginning

According to Plato the earliest Greek kings whose names were recorded were those of Atlantis. The Egyptian priests who had translated them from Greek into Egyptian gave their names to Solon. Solon recovered the original meaning of the names and translated them back into Greek. The name Atlas the founder of Atlantis after whom the land was named may have originally been the name of the Egyptian Pharaoh Wankare c.2094 BC who was known to the Greeks by the name of Achtoes III.

In Mycenaean Greek the title used for the supreme king was Wa-na-ka-(s) and this name may have been the source of Wankare since according to Plato the kings of Atlantis ruled as far as Egypt.

Atlas farther was said to have been Eveneor in Greek and this may have been Wankare’s father Neferkare IV c.2112 BC

The Birth of the World

The period of the Gods in Greek Mythology was that of the Cretan Palace Civilisation of the 17th century BC and the period of the Heroes was the 16th to 12th century BC. Almost all of the Gods names have been found in Linear B inscriptions in circumstances relating to their worship dating to about 1250 BC, and the names of hero’s have been found in Hittite and Egyptian inscriptions beginning in the 15th century BC. It is therefore highly likely that the Gods and Heroes were all based on real people whose hero cults survived well into the Christian era.

Ouranos 1750-1710 BC the son of Gia may have been identified with the cult of Hittite king Tudhaliya I 1740-1710. The story of Uranus castration by Kronos with a sickle has parallels in Hittite and Phoenician mythology. The Greek version of this mythology originates from the expansion into Greece, Europe, Anatolia, Palestine and Northern Africa of the first Greek speaking peoples. According to Diodorus, Ouranos was said to have had a brother called Zeus who was king of Crete and father of the Curates. At about the time of theses kings reign shaft tombs start appearing at Mycenae indicating the arrival of a foreign culture.

The Reign of the Titans.

Kronos c.1715-1675 BC known by the Romans as Saturn was probably the Cretan king Satur who ruled at Knossos some time between 1725 and 1675 BC according to Linear A inscriptions.

At the time of Kronos the Idaean Dactyls lived around Mt Ida in Crete. One of the Dactyls was named Herakles and he may have been referred to on the Phaistos Disc which was found at Phaistos in Crete near Mt Ida and dates to about 1700 BC. According to the decipherment and translation by J. Faucounau's the Phaistos Disc refers to the funeral of a Greek king called Arion and was written in proto-Ionic dialect. The name Arion is Arik in Hebrew which is the same as the name Arioch in the Old Testament, which in Elamite was written Eri-Aku giving the name Her-ak-les. The Greeks used the same rites as those of the Phoenician God Melcathrus in their worship of Herakles so both names are related to each other. Herakles is probably a corruption of Melcathrus in the following manner, Mel-ca-thrus to Her-ak-les where the letters L and R are interchangeable as in Linear B. Mel-ca-thr could be a corruption of “Melech Terra” meaning “king of the land” and “Melech” is probably also the original source of the Elamite name Eriaku.

The Rise of the Gods

According to Greek Mythology Zeus (or Sdeus) was born in Lyctos and was taken to the Diktaian caves near Lato (or Lyctos) in Crete after his birth or to the Idaian caves which are near Tylissos. Diodorus Siculus says that the Cretan city of Goulas was known as a "city of Zeus". Linear B tablets found at Knossos mention a Goulas settlement in the area of Lato and Tylissos. If this evidence is correct then it would indicate that Zeus was the Cretan king Saasi[tepi(s)] or Saa[si]tepi(s) who ruled at Lato and at Tiliss somewhere between 1650 and 1600 BC according to Linear A inscriptions.

This Saasitepis may also have been the Hyksos king Sheshi also known as Shalik (inscription) or Salatis (Manetho) who ruled in Egypt from 1674 to 1667.5 BC (Based on Manethos figures). There is no reason why Hyksos rule could not have extended to Greece or Cretan rule to Egypt in this period.

Hades whose realm in the Argonautica was located in Phrygia is most probably a reference to the Hittite king Hattusilis I 1660-1630 BC whose name rendered in Greek is Attis. The Attis death and resurrection god cult was still present in Anatolia until the Christian era.

According to Herodotus the rituals of the Greek Gods apart from Poseidon were exactly the same as those of the Egyptian gods who were brought to Greece at the time of Cadmus c.1450 BC. Since the worship of Poseidon did not originate from Egypt Poseidon may have been identified with the Phoenician Sea God Yah or Yam. He may have been the Hyksos vassal Yakobaam who ruled in northern Sinai in about 1650 BC. If this was the case then name Poseidon may have derived from the Greek expression “apo sidon” meaning “from Sidon” or the Phoenician “Abi Sidon” or “Baal-Sidon” meaning “Father of Sidon” the city where the worship of Yah was practiced until 1300 BC.

The practice of the God cults of the above kings indicates that there may have been an alliance in place between the Cretan Greeks, Hittites and Phoenicians that lasted until 1450 BC when the proto-Achaean civilisation conquered Greece.

A Cretan king named Iasiton reigned at Minoia somewhere between 1625 and 1575 BC and may have been Iasion the son of Zeus or Corythus and Electra c.1660 BC the daughter of Atlas.

The Affairs of the Gods.

Ares or Mars could have originally been the Maeonian king Manes 1650-1628 BC who according to Herodotus was the progenitor of the Lydians and Carians. The Romans would have known of this king since the Lydian’s founded colonies in Umbria in Italy. Later personifications of Ares were associated by Greek writers with the Thracian kings Dryas (c.1480BC), Tereus (c.1368 BC) and Tegyrius (c.1330 BC).

Epaphus the son of Io was the Egyptian Hyksos king Apachnas 1645.5-1626.5 BC who is also known as Apepi I. Herodotus states that the name Epaphus was the Greek form of the Egyptian name Apis.

Apis 1628-1600 BC the son of Phoeroneus may have been the Cretan king Saiapis (from Linear A inscriptions) who ruled at Tilisis somewhere between 1625 and 1575 BC. It is highly likely that if Epaphus was Apepi I then Apis was Apepi II who ruled immediately after the first king of that name. In Hellenistic times the Egyptians worshiped Apis son of Phoeroneus by the name of Sarapis as Greco-Egyptian God and pharaoh of Egypt.

Hephaestus himself is not mentioned in any known inscriptions but his son Radamanthys the king of Crete (1599-1555) is named in Linear A inscriptions as Nodamate the king of Crete at Knossos dating to 1600-1550 BC.

The cult of Phoebus Apollo is most likely to have originated in Greece as the cult of Phorbas who ruled over Argos from 1544-1527 BC according to Castor. According to Jerome’s Chronicon Phorbas conquered the island of Rhodes and this island was known to be a centre for the worship of Apollo.

Cadmus was originally based on the Hyksos Pharaoh Khamudy Aasehre 1571-1546 who according to Manetho was called Assis. His father Agenor was the Hyksos Pharaoh Aaqenenre 1610-1569, who according to Manetho was Janins 1596-1571 and probably corresponds to Yakhuber c.1600 in other extant Egyptian inscriptions The Cadmus who was husband of Harmonia was a different person who based on the Theban genealogies and from king lists from Jeromes Chroncion reigned from 1436-1380 BC.

The Heroic Age

Egyptian texts from the reign of Tutmoses III indicated that the Greek tribe of the Danai who were descended from Danaus (1472 BC) were known to the Egyptians and made tribute to Tutmoses III in 1457 BC at the same time that the Danids the daughters of Danaus married and then murdered the sons Aegyptus. This would mean that Tutmoses III also known as Djehutymes III was Aegyptus which is an obvious corruption of (A)djehutymes.

The cult of Atthis 1460-1444 BC the daughter of Cranaus king of Athens (1459-1404) was set up after she died as a maiden and later become associated with the worship of Athena. Attica formerly known as Acte was named after her. Erichthonius who is said to have set up a wooden image of Athena was reputed to be either Atthis or Athena’s son by Hephaestus. Since Amphictyon the son of Deukalion the king of Athens (1404-1399 BC) was married to Cranaus daughter it is highly probable that Amphictyon was the Hephaestus referred to in the myths. The most likely explanation is that in the poetic version of this story the author made Amphictyon appear to Atthis in the form of Hephaestus and Atthis herself appeared in the form of Athena.

Erichthonius the king of Troy and Erichthonius the king of Athens were most probably one and the same person since the Athenians and Trojans always claimed they had a common ancestry. According to Trojan mythology Erichthonius was the son of Dardanus and Batia the daughter of Teucer (1460-1440 BC). Teucer is the same name as that of the Hittite king Tudhaliya II (1460-1440 BC) whose name is also the same as Deukalion (1460-1440 BC). Either there were 4 separate kings who shared variations of the same name or all 4 kings were one and the same person. Teucer was the son of the river Scamander who was also known as Xanthus. Phonetically Scamander and Xanthus are exactly the same name as Sekander, which is a corruption of the name Alexander. Alexander was the Greek name for Paris the son of Priam (also called Podakis) who abducted Helen and his name has been found in Hittite inscriptions.

The Cypriot cults of Adonis the son of Phoenix (1417-1400 BC) and of Adonis the son of Cyniras (1276-c.1250 BC) were both derived from the Attis cults of Hittite king Hattusilis II (1420-1400 BC) and Hattusilis III (1275-1250BC).

Dionysus, Tauro Kranos or Lyaeus sicne he was a God who came to Greece from Lydia and Phrygia was probably the Hittite king Tudhaliya III who had a god cult associated with him in Asia-Minor. He may have also been Orotal (equivalent to the biblical Thurgal or Tidal, or Turkish Tarkan or Kurdish Turgut) the god who was worshiped by the Arabs who Herodotus identifies with Dionysus. Since Tauro Kranos (Bull Head) was an epithet from Dionysus it may also be an epithet for Uranus, identified with Tudhaliya I, whose name could be a corruption of Kranos substituting Hou for K. Tudhaliya III 1400-1380 BC was deposed in a coup by his son Supiluliama who ruled over Lydia the place of Dionysus stated origin. Along with this Dionysus there were two others. Firstly Deiones or Deion the son of Aeolus was the Dionysus who made the Argive women mad. He died in 1310 BC in the 32nd year of Perseus according to Eusebius and Clement. The final Dionysus was Deukalion the son of Minos and brother of Ariadne.

Deukalion in whose time the flood occurred in Phthiotis who shared his wine cult with Dionysus has the same name and lived at the same time as the Hittite king Tudhaliya II who shared the same god cult as his grandson Tudhaliya III. Deukalions bastard son Amphyction who became king of Athens may have also been the Hittite king Arnuvanda I 1425-1413 BC assuming that Cranaus was also Tudhaliya II and Teucer, or that these were his vassals who took Greek versions of his name.

Demeter originated from the ancestor cult of the Cretan Queen Deo or Doso established in Greece in 1420 BC, which was adapted from the Eleusian version of the Hera cult, brought from Argos in 1530 BC.

Deo lived at the same time as Arcas the king of Arcadia who was also a contemporary of Triptolemos. As queen of Crete at this time Demeter, Deo or Doso was probably based on the same historical account that the story of Europe who was abducted by Zeus in 1438 BC was based on. The Homeric hymn to Demeter says that in the form of Doso she was abducted and taken to Eleusis.

Demeter is said to have been raped by Iasion the brother of Dardanus who reigned in 1440 BC. Persephone was probably their daughter. Minos who was said to be the son of Zeus was probably the son of either Iasion who met an early death for his crime or Astereus the king of Crete.

The Argive version of the Demeter story places her in 1520 BC by referring to Pelasgus who was king at the time and the enmity between Trochilus the priest of the mysteries (of Hera) and Agenor the son of Ecbasus the son of Argus. A Sicyonian story places her in 1480 BC. If the Argive Demeter had a 16 year old daughter these two accounts are unlikely to be linked to the same person unless Demeter was well into her late 70’s by then.

Hades (Aidonis) who abducted Persephone was Adonis the king of Cyprus son of Phoenix since Adonis is said to have fallen in love with both Persephone and Aphrodite and the story goes that he made a deal to spend 1/3 of the year with Persephone and 1/3 with Aphrodite and the other 1/3 he had for himself so he chose to spend it with Aphrodite. That meant the Persephone had to spend the other 9 months of the year with her mother. The deal reached by Demeter with Hades was that Persephone would spend 9 months with her and 3 with Hades, so it looks like two versions of this story existed. The Cypriot version that has been mixed up with about 3 generations Adonis cults and the Greek version, which was recorded by the Eleusians where Demeter established an agricultural school, preserved her memory and that of her daughter.

The Orphic version of the Demeter story moves all of the events to the time of Dysaules and Eumolpus in 1284 BC but this cannot be the original source since the Demeter cult was already in Athens at the time of Pandion I in 1374 BC according to Apollodorus.

Thus the most probable story is that in about 1517 BC Adonis the son of Phoenix arranged for Persephone to be his wife. Her mother Deo was not pleased at Adonis having two wives and went to Argos to stop the marriage but was informed by Chrysanthis that she had already been taken. Trochilus the priest of the mysteries of Hera was then forced to migrate to Eleusis by Agenor and established the Argive Hera cult there and became the father of Eubuleus and Triptolemus by an Eleusian woman and so created the royal line. In 1480 BC Deo might have gone to Sicyon to nurse the children of Plemnaaus. By 1440 BC Celeus was now king of Eleusis and Iasion of Troy raped Doso a Cretan queen or princess and was put to death and this became the source of the story of the **** of Demeter by Zeus. Doso was then abducted from Crete in about 1420 BC during a raid by pirates and was taken to Eleusis and became nurse to the children of Celeus and thought them the art of Agriculture and because of this she was identified with Demeter. Orpheus then merged the stories together and moved the events to 1284 BC.

Amyclas (1380-1335 BC) the son of Lacedaemon founded the city of Amyclae, which is named as a city of the Danai in an inscription made in the reign of Pharaoh Amenhopt III (1386-1349 BC). If the Egyptians are correct about the possession of this city which seems to contradict Homer who calls the Lacedaemonians Achaeans then the only way to resolve this is if Lacedaemon allegedly a son of Zeus was in reality a son of Metanastes the son of Archander the son of Achaeaus. According to Pausanius Archander was married to Scaea the daughter of Danaus which would mean that the Lacedaemonians were Danai as well as Achaeans.

Since the people of Mycenae were also called Achaeans by Homer when though they were descended from Danaus the only way they could have gotten the name Achaeans is if Eurydice the daughter of Amyclas who was married to Acrisius the grandfather of Perseus was descended from Achaeus.

Pausanius states that while the Lacedaemonians and other Argives (including the Mycenaean’s) called themselves Achaeans the name Danai was reserved for the people of the cist of Argos alone. This can only be because in 1341 BC Perseus made and exchange with Megapenthes the son of his uncle Proetus where he have him Argos in return for Mycenae, Midea, and Tyrins, and whereas Perseus was a descendent of Achaues, Megapenthes was only descended from Danaus.

According to Herodotus the Assyrians held that Perseus (1341-1320) was not an Egyptian as the Greeks thought but an Assyrian. In this case the Assyrians probably associated Perseus with the Hittite king Mursilis II 1345-1315 BC. This Mursilis II is supposed to have received in marriage an Egyptian princess who was the daughter of Amenhotep III or IV. To the Greeks at the time of Herodotus the Hittites were Assyrians since the Assyrians had conquered them, but at the time of Perseus the Hittites were Egyptian vassals. This would mean that Amenhotep III or IV also known as Nefer-kheferu-re was Cepheus the Ethiopian king of Joppa and Andromeda meaning woman of the lord was Ankhesenamen meaning daughter of the king. Since the name of Amenhotep III is inscribed on the gateway to the palace of Mycenae which was built by Perseus and plates bearing Amenhotep III’s name in hieroglyphics have also been found in the area it is most likely that the Hittites were ruled by Greek kings if Mursilis II was Perseus.

The 9 Muses (1242 BC) were said to be the daughters of Pierus the Macedonian the son of Magnes the brother of Macedon son of Deukalion. Before these muses there were only 3 muses and these had different names and were probably the daughters of the Aloeids who instigated their worship.

Tantalus who ruled over Pontus and Lydia and was the father of Pelops (who was a contemporary of Amphion 1325-1290 BC) was also the Hittite king Mursilis II 1345-1315. According to Herodotus The Lydian form of the name Mursilis is Candaules, which is probably a corrupted version of Tantalus.

According to the legend, when Herakles was conceived Zeus made one night into three thus making it last three times as long as normal, 36 hours instead of 24.

Now the only reasonable way that this could have occurred is if a Total Solar Eclipse occurred over the Aegean at Midday on the day that Herakes was conceived.

Herakels lived two generations before the Trojan war since he made Nestor king in place of his father Neleus while he was only a boy.

Counting back from 1193 BC when the Trojan war took place according to the traditionally chronology, Helen was abducted by Paris 10 years earlier, the year before Atreus was murdered by Aegistheus who was only 9 but Agamemnon was too young to take revenge but was old enough to seek an oracle for his father thus would have just turned 16. Atreus became king after Theseus killed Eurestheus since and Herakles son Hyllus decapitated him on the orders of his mother since he was not old enough to marry when Herakels died, so would have been under 16 or 14. Before marrying Deianara Herakles spent 4 years in the Peloponnese and another 4 in service to Omphale and before that it took him 12 years to complete his labours. He had at least four children by Magara before this which would have taken about 6 years and won her after he saved Thebes shortly after he turned 18.

Thus Herakles would have been born somewhere around about 1279 BC.

According to NASA there were only 2 eclipses visible in Greece at this time and the one most likely to have occurred when Herakles was conceived occurred on February 10 1286 BC

Counting the days this would mean that Herakles was born on 3 November 1286 BC which is 40 weeks or 9 months later.

According to Ovid Herakles birth occurred when in the when the sign of Capricorn was hidden by the sun, ie. in the 10th month. In Ovids time this would have been on 23 December but because of the precession of the earths axis in 1286 this would have occurred in late November or early December. Since the earths axis precesses once every 26000 or so years it would take about 2000 years for the constellations to shift. Thus in 1200 BC Capricorn would have been celebrated on 1200/2000 * 31 = 19 days earlier which places it on December 4.

According to other sources Herakles birth was celebrated on the 4th day of every month thus the question is, was Herakles born on 4th December 1286 BC or was it on 4th November 1286. The story goes that when Herakels was born Nicippe was ordered by Hera to delay Herakels birth so this could account for the fact that Herakels was born a month late

The other eclipse mentioned by NASA occurred on 5th March 1223 BC and this was the day the Atreus became High King of Mycenae since the story goes that in order for Atreus to become king Zeus made the shadow on the dial go backwards which is something that can only occurred during a Total Solar Eclipse. The same prophesy is given in the bible in the year when Hezekiah is saved from Sennecherbs army. The date of 702 BC for Senecheribs campaign in his 3rd year is known from Assyrian records and the eclipse it coincides with occurred on 5th March 702 BC.

In the Madduwatta Text Odysseus (Attarsiya) is described by the Hittite king Arnuwanda III (1220-1200) as an Achaean (Ahhiyawa) who invaded Cyprus (Alasiya). This was at the time when Odysseus accompanied by Menelaus went to Cyprus to obtain ships from Cinyras for the first gathering at Aulis in 1201 BC two years after Helen had been abducted by Paris.

Pan the son of Penelope may have been derived from the cult of Assyrian king Tiglath-Pileser I 1114 to 1102 or 1076 BC who conquered Caria and destroyed the Hittite civilisation.



Hittite equivalents for Greek names in Asia-Minor



Hittite Name
Greek Name

Wilusa
Lukka
Milawata
Apasa
Ahhiyawa
Arzawa
Alasya
Kaska
Tarhuntassa
Kizzuwadna
Alaksandu
Attarsiya
Mysia or Ilios
Lykia
Millito(s)
Epheso(s)
Ahaiwoi (Achaeans)
Clazom(enae)
Karpasia (in Cyprus)
(Ther)miskyra
Telmissus
Kindos (river)
Alexandro(s)
Odysseo(s)

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Origin of the Greek Gods

According to the early Christian church fathers the ancient Greeks believed that their Gods were originally real people who their ancestors deified and to whom they prescribed divine rites derived from the Egyptians and Phoenicians whose Gods were also once mortal men.

“[Diodorus] The gods, they say, had been originally mortal men, but gained their immortality on account of wisdom and public benefits to mankind, some of them having also become kings: and some have the same names, when interpreted, with the heavenly deities, while others have received a name of their own, as Helios, and Kronos, and Rhea, and Zeus,” (Eusebius: The Preparation of the Gospel Book 2.1)

In the Preparation of the Gospel Eusebius quoting from original Greek sources tells how the Hellenic religion was created from the corruption of written histories that dated back to the time of Ahmose I and even earlier. Over the generations the biographies of the kings of Greece and the events which occurred during their reigns were mixed up with Egyptian theology by the poets and the caretakers of the tombs of these kings and thus the kings were turned into Gods, their tombs into temples and the caretakers into priests. Centuries later because of the imperfections of the Gods characters, their incestuous relationships, the wars they waged against their own offspring and their bizarre initiation ceremonies Socrates thought that their acts should best be left to be forgotten by no longer being taught and a new form of natural philosophy should be adopted. Fortunately Socrates view did not prevail and the true history of the kings that became the Gods remains to be reconstructed.

The Beginning

According to Plato the earliest Greek kings whose names were recorded were those of Atlantis. The Egyptian priests who had translated them from Greek into Egyptian gave their names to Solon. Solon recovered the original meaning of the names and translated them back into Greek. The name Atlas the founder of Atlantis after whom the land was named may have originally been the name of the Egyptian Pharaoh Wankare c.2094 BC who was known to the Greeks by the name of Achtoes III.

In Mycenaean Greek the title used for the supreme king was Wa-na-ka-(s) and this name may have been the source of Wankare since according to Plato the kings of Atlantis ruled as far as Egypt.

Atlas farther was said to have been Eveneor in Greek and this may have been Wankare’s father Neferkare IV c.2112 BC

The Birth of the World

The period of the Gods in Greek Mythology was that of the Cretan Palace Civilisation of the 17th century BC and the period of the Heroes was the 16th to 12th century BC. Almost all of the Gods names have been found in Linear B inscriptions in circumstances relating to their worship dating to about 1250 BC, and the names of hero’s have been found in Hittite and Egyptian inscriptions beginning in the 15th century BC. It is therefore highly likely that the Gods and Heroes were all based on real people whose hero cults survived well into the Christian era.

Ouranos 1750-1710 BC the son of Gia may have been identified with the cult of Hittite king Tudhaliya I 1740-1710. The story of Uranus castration by Kronos with a sickle has parallels in Hittite and Phoenician mythology. The Greek version of this mythology originates from the expansion into Greece, Europe, Anatolia, Palestine and Northern Africa of the first Greek speaking peoples. According to Diodorus, Ouranos was said to have had a brother called Zeus who was king of Crete and father of the Curates. At about the time of theses kings reign shaft tombs start appearing at Mycenae indicating the arrival of a foreign culture.

The Reign of the Titans.

Kronos c.1715-1675 BC known by the Romans as Saturn was probably the Cretan king Satur who ruled at Knossos some time between 1725 and 1675 BC according to Linear A inscriptions.

At the time of Kronos the Idaean Dactyls lived around Mt Ida in Crete. One of the Dactyls was named Herakles and he may have been referred to on the Phaistos Disc which was found at Phaistos in Crete near Mt Ida and dates to about 1700 BC. According to the decipherment and translation by J. Faucounau's the Phaistos Disc refers to the funeral of a Greek king called Arion and was written in proto-Ionic dialect. The name Arion is Arik in Hebrew which is the same as the name Arioch in the Old Testament, which in Elamite was written Eri-Aku giving the name Her-ak-les. The Greeks used the same rites as those of the Phoenician God Melcathrus in their worship of Herakles so both names are related to each other. Herakles is probably a corruption of Melcathrus in the following manner, Mel-ca-thrus to Her-ak-les where the letters L and R are interchangeable as in Linear B. Mel-ca-thr could be a corruption of “Melech Terra” meaning “king of the land” and “Melech” is probably also the original source of the Elamite name Eriaku.

The Rise of the Gods

According to Greek Mythology Zeus (or Sdeus) was born in Lyctos and was taken to the Diktaian caves near Lato (or Lyctos) in Crete after his birth or to the Idaian caves which are near Tylissos. Diodorus Siculus says that the Cretan city of Goulas was known as a "city of Zeus". Linear B tablets found at Knossos mention a Goulas settlement in the area of Lato and Tylissos. If this evidence is correct then it would indicate that Zeus was the Cretan king Saasi[tepi(s)] or Saa[si]tepi(s) who ruled at Lato and at Tiliss somewhere between 1650 and 1600 BC according to Linear A inscriptions.

This Saasitepis may also have been the Hyksos king Sheshi also known as Shalik (inscription) or Salatis (Manetho) who ruled in Egypt from 1674 to 1667.5 BC (Based on Manethos figures). There is no reason why Hyksos rule could not have extended to Greece or Cretan rule to Egypt in this period.

Hades whose realm in the Argonautica was located in Phrygia is most probably a reference to the Hittite king Hattusilis I 1660-1630 BC whose name rendered in Greek is Attis. The Attis death and resurrection god cult was still present in Anatolia until the Christian era.

According to Herodotus the rituals of the Greek Gods apart from Poseidon were exactly the same as those of the Egyptian gods who were brought to Greece at the time of Cadmus c.1450 BC. Since the worship of Poseidon did not originate from Egypt Poseidon may have been identified with the Phoenician Sea God Yah or Yam. He may have been the Hyksos vassal Yakobaam who ruled in northern Sinai in about 1650 BC. If this was the case then name Poseidon may have derived from the Greek expression “apo sidon” meaning “from Sidon” or the Phoenician “Abi Sidon” or “Baal-Sidon” meaning “Father of Sidon” the city where the worship of Yah was practiced until 1300 BC.

The practice of the God cults of the above kings indicates that there may have been an alliance in place between the Cretan Greeks, Hittites and Phoenicians that lasted until 1450 BC when the proto-Achaean civilisation conquered Greece.

A Cretan king named Iasiton reigned at Minoia somewhere between 1625 and 1575 BC and may have been Iasion the son of Zeus or Corythus and Electra c.1660 BC the daughter of Atlas.

The Affairs of the Gods.

Ares or Mars could have originally been the Maeonian king Manes 1650-1628 BC who according to Herodotus was the progenitor of the Lydians and Carians. The Romans would have known of this king since the Lydian’s founded colonies in Umbria in Italy. Later personifications of Ares were associated by Greek writers with the Thracian kings Dryas (c.1480BC), Tereus (c.1368 BC) and Tegyrius (c.1330 BC).

Epaphus the son of Io was the Egyptian Hyksos king Apachnas 1645.5-1626.5 BC who is also known as Apepi I. Herodotus states that the name Epaphus was the Greek form of the Egyptian name Apis.

Apis 1628-1600 BC the son of Phoeroneus may have been the Cretan king Saiapis (from Linear A inscriptions) who ruled at Tilisis somewhere between 1625 and 1575 BC. It is highly likely that if Epaphus was Apepi I then Apis was Apepi II who ruled immediately after the first king of that name. In Hellenistic times the Egyptians worshiped Apis son of Phoeroneus by the name of Sarapis as Greco-Egyptian God and pharaoh of Egypt.

Hephaestus himself is not mentioned in any known inscriptions but his son Radamanthys the king of Crete (1599-1555) is named in Linear A inscriptions as Nodamate the king of Crete at Knossos dating to 1600-1550 BC.

The cult of Phoebus Apollo is most likely to have originated in Greece as the cult of Phorbas who ruled over Argos from 1544-1527 BC according to Castor. According to Jerome’s Chronicon Phorbas conquered the island of Rhodes and this island was known to be a centre for the worship of Apollo.

Cadmus was originally based on the Hyksos Pharaoh Khamudy Aasehre 1571-1546 who according to Manetho was called Assis. His father Agenor was the Hyksos Pharaoh Aaqenenre 1610-1569, who according to Manetho was Janins 1596-1571 and probably corresponds to Yakhuber c.1600 in other extant Egyptian inscriptions The Cadmus who was husband of Harmonia was a different person who based on the Theban genealogies and from king lists from Jeromes Chroncion reigned from 1436-1380 BC.

The Heroic Age

Egyptian texts from the reign of Tutmoses III indicated that the Greek tribe of the Danai who were descended from Danaus (1472 BC) were known to the Egyptians and made tribute to Tutmoses III in 1457 BC at the same time that the Danids the daughters of Danaus married and then murdered the sons Aegyptus. This would mean that Tutmoses III also known as Djehutymes III was Aegyptus which is an obvious corruption of (A)djehutymes.

The cult of Atthis 1460-1444 BC the daughter of Cranaus king of Athens (1459-1404) was set up after she died as a maiden and later become associated with the worship of Athena. Attica formerly known as Acte was named after her. Erichthonius who is said to have set up a wooden image of Athena was reputed to be either Atthis or Athena’s son by Hephaestus. Since Amphictyon the son of Deukalion the king of Athens (1404-1399 BC) was married to Cranaus daughter it is highly probable that Amphictyon was the Hephaestus referred to in the myths. The most likely explanation is that in the poetic version of this story the author made Amphictyon appear to Atthis in the form of Hephaestus and Atthis herself appeared in the form of Athena.

Erichthonius the king of Troy and Erichthonius the king of Athens were most probably one and the same person since the Athenians and Trojans always claimed they had a common ancestry. According to Trojan mythology Erichthonius was the son of Dardanus and Batia the daughter of Teucer (1460-1440 BC). Teucer is the same name as that of the Hittite king Tudhaliya II (1460-1440 BC) whose name is also the same as Deukalion (1460-1440 BC). Either there were 4 separate kings who shared variations of the same name or all 4 kings were one and the same person. Teucer was the son of the river Scamander who was also known as Xanthus. Phonetically Scamander and Xanthus are exactly the same name as Sekander, which is a corruption of the name Alexander. Alexander was the Greek name for Paris the son of Priam (also called Podakis) who abducted Helen and his name has been found in Hittite inscriptions.

The Cypriot cults of Adonis the son of Phoenix (1417-1400 BC) and of Adonis the son of Cyniras (1276-c.1250 BC) were both derived from the Attis cults of Hittite king Hattusilis II (1420-1400 BC) and Hattusilis III (1275-1250BC).

Dionysus, Tauro Kranos or Lyaeus sicne he was a God who came to Greece from Lydia and Phrygia was probably the Hittite king Tudhaliya III who had a god cult associated with him in Asia-Minor. He may have also been Orotal (equivalent to the biblical Thurgal or Tidal, or Turkish Tarkan or Kurdish Turgut) the god who was worshiped by the Arabs who Herodotus identifies with Dionysus. Since Tauro Kranos (Bull Head) was an epithet from Dionysus it may also be an epithet for Uranus, identified with Tudhaliya I, whose name could be a corruption of Kranos substituting Hou for K. Tudhaliya III 1400-1380 BC was deposed in a coup by his son Supiluliama who ruled over Lydia the place of Dionysus stated origin. Along with this Dionysus there were two others. Firstly Deiones or Deion the son of Aeolus was the Dionysus who made the Argive women mad. He died in 1310 BC in the 32nd year of Perseus according to Eusebius and Clement. The final Dionysus was Deukalion the son of Minos and brother of Ariadne.

Deukalion in whose time the flood occurred in Phthiotis who shared his wine cult with Dionysus has the same name and lived at the same time as the Hittite king Tudhaliya II who shared the same god cult as his grandson Tudhaliya III. Deukalions bastard son Amphyction who became king of Athens may have also been the Hittite king Arnuvanda I 1425-1413 BC assuming that Cranaus was also Tudhaliya II and Teucer, or that these were his vassals who took Greek versions of his name.

Demeter originated from the ancestor cult of the Cretan Queen Deo or Doso established in Greece in 1420 BC, which was adapted from the Eleusian version of the Hera cult, brought from Argos in 1530 BC.

Deo lived at the same time as Arcas the king of Arcadia who was also a contemporary of Triptolemos. As queen of Crete at this time Demeter, Deo or Doso was probably based on the same historical account that the story of Europe who was abducted by Zeus in 1438 BC was based on. The Homeric hymn to Demeter says that in the form of Doso she was abducted and taken to Eleusis.

Demeter is said to have been raped by Iasion the brother of Dardanus who reigned in 1440 BC. Persephone was probably their daughter. Minos who was said to be the son of Zeus was probably the son of either Iasion who met an early death for his crime or Astereus the king of Crete.

The Argive version of the Demeter story places her in 1520 BC by referring to Pelasgus who was king at the time and the enmity between Trochilus the priest of the mysteries (of Hera) and Agenor the son of Ecbasus the son of Argus. A Sicyonian story places her in 1480 BC. If the Argive Demeter had a 16 year old daughter these two accounts are unlikely to be linked to the same person unless Demeter was well into her late 70’s by then.

Hades (Aidonis) who abducted Persephone was Adonis the king of Cyprus son of Phoenix since Adonis is said to have fallen in love with both Persephone and Aphrodite and the story goes that he made a deal to spend 1/3 of the year with Persephone and 1/3 with Aphrodite and the other 1/3 he had for himself so he chose to spend it with Aphrodite. That meant the Persephone had to spend the other 9 months of the year with her mother. The deal reached by Demeter with Hades was that Persephone would spend 9 months with her and 3 with Hades, so it looks like two versions of this story existed. The Cypriot version that has been mixed up with about 3 generations Adonis cults and the Greek version, which was recorded by the Eleusians where Demeter established an agricultural school, preserved her memory and that of her daughter.

The Orphic version of the Demeter story moves all of the events to the time of Dysaules and Eumolpus in 1284 BC but this cannot be the original source since the Demeter cult was already in Athens at the time of Pandion I in 1374 BC according to Apollodorus.

Thus the most probable story is that in about 1517 BC Adonis the son of Phoenix arranged for Persephone to be his wife. Her mother Deo was not pleased at Adonis having two wives and went to Argos to stop the marriage but was informed by Chrysanthis that she had already been taken. Trochilus the priest of the mysteries of Hera was then forced to migrate to Eleusis by Agenor and established the Argive Hera cult there and became the father of Eubuleus and Triptolemus by an Eleusian woman and so created the royal line. In 1480 BC Deo might have gone to Sicyon to nurse the children of Plemnaaus. By 1440 BC Celeus was now king of Eleusis and Iasion of Troy raped Doso a Cretan queen or princess and was put to death and this became the source of the story of the **** of Demeter by Zeus. Doso was then abducted from Crete in about 1420 BC during a raid by pirates and was taken to Eleusis and became nurse to the children of Celeus and thought them the art of Agriculture and because of this she was identified with Demeter. Orpheus then merged the stories together and moved the events to 1284 BC.

Amyclas (1380-1335 BC) the son of Lacedaemon founded the city of Amyclae, which is named as a city of the Danai in an inscription made in the reign of Pharaoh Amenhopt III (1386-1349 BC). If the Egyptians are correct about the possession of this city which seems to contradict Homer who calls the Lacedaemonians Achaeans then the only way to resolve this is if Lacedaemon allegedly a son of Zeus was in reality a son of Metanastes the son of Archander the son of Achaeaus. According to Pausanius Archander was married to Scaea the daughter of Danaus which would mean that the Lacedaemonians were Danai as well as Achaeans.

Since the people of Mycenae were also called Achaeans by Homer when though they were descended from Danaus the only way they could have gotten the name Achaeans is if Eurydice the daughter of Amyclas who was married to Acrisius the grandfather of Perseus was descended from Achaeus.

Pausanius states that while the Lacedaemonians and other Argives (including the Mycenaean’s) called themselves Achaeans the name Danai was reserved for the people of the cist of Argos alone. This can only be because in 1341 BC Perseus made and exchange with Megapenthes the son of his uncle Proetus where he have him Argos in return for Mycenae, Midea, and Tyrins, and whereas Perseus was a descendent of Achaues, Megapenthes was only descended from Danaus.

According to Herodotus the Assyrians held that Perseus (1341-1320) was not an Egyptian as the Greeks thought but an Assyrian. In this case the Assyrians probably associated Perseus with the Hittite king Mursilis II 1345-1315 BC. This Mursilis II is supposed to have received in marriage an Egyptian princess who was the daughter of Amenhotep III or IV. To the Greeks at the time of Herodotus the Hittites were Assyrians since the Assyrians had conquered them, but at the time of Perseus the Hittites were Egyptian vassals. This would mean that Amenhotep III or IV also known as Nefer-kheferu-re was Cepheus the Ethiopian king of Joppa and Andromeda meaning woman of the lord was Ankhesenamen meaning daughter of the king. Since the name of Amenhotep III is inscribed on the gateway to the palace of Mycenae which was built by Perseus and plates bearing Amenhotep III’s name in hieroglyphics have also been found in the area it is most likely that the Hittites were ruled by Greek kings if Mursilis II was Perseus.

The 9 Muses (1242 BC) were said to be the daughters of Pierus the Macedonian the son of Magnes the brother of Macedon son of Deukalion. Before these muses there were only 3 muses and these had different names and were probably the daughters of the Aloeids who instigated their worship.

Tantalus who ruled over Pontus and Lydia and was the father of Pelops (who was a contemporary of Amphion 1325-1290 BC) was also the Hittite king Mursilis II 1345-1315. According to Herodotus The Lydian form of the name Mursilis is Candaules, which is probably a corrupted version of Tantalus.

According to the legend, when Herakles was conceived Zeus made one night into three thus making it last three times as long as normal, 36 hours instead of 24.

Now the only reasonable way that this could have occurred is if a Total Solar Eclipse occurred over the Aegean at Midday on the day that Herakes was conceived.

Herakels lived two generations before the Trojan war since he made Nestor king in place of his father Neleus while he was only a boy.

Counting back from 1193 BC when the Trojan war took place according to the traditionally chronology, Helen was abducted by Paris 10 years earlier, the year before Atreus was murdered by Aegistheus who was only 9 but Agamemnon was too young to take revenge but was old enough to seek an oracle for his father thus would have just turned 16. Atreus became king after Theseus killed Eurestheus since and Herakles son Hyllus decapitated him on the orders of his mother since he was not old enough to marry when Herakels died, so would have been under 16 or 14. Before marrying Deianara Herakles spent 4 years in the Peloponnese and another 4 in service to Omphale and before that it took him 12 years to complete his labours. He had at least four children by Magara before this which would have taken about 6 years and won her after he saved Thebes shortly after he turned 18.

Thus Herakles would have been born somewhere around about 1279 BC.

According to NASA there were only 2 eclipses visible in Greece at this time and the one most likely to have occurred when Herakles was conceived occurred on February 10 1286 BC

Counting the days this would mean that Herakles was born on 3 November 1286 BC which is 40 weeks or 9 months later.

According to Ovid Herakles birth occurred when in the when the sign of Capricorn was hidden by the sun, ie. in the 10th month. In Ovids time this would have been on 23 December but because of the precession of the earths axis in 1286 this would have occurred in late November or early December. Since the earths axis precesses once every 26000 or so years it would take about 2000 years for the constellations to shift. Thus in 1200 BC Capricorn would have been celebrated on 1200/2000 * 31 = 19 days earlier which places it on December 4.

According to other sources Herakles birth was celebrated on the 4th day of every month thus the question is, was Herakles born on 4th December 1286 BC or was it on 4th November 1286. The story goes that when Herakels was born Nicippe was ordered by Hera to delay Herakels birth so this could account for the fact that Herakels was born a month late

The other eclipse mentioned by NASA occurred on 5th March 1223 BC and this was the day the Atreus became High King of Mycenae since the story goes that in order for Atreus to become king Zeus made the shadow on the dial go backwards which is something that can only occurred during a Total Solar Eclipse. The same prophesy is given in the bible in the year when Hezekiah is saved from Sennecherbs army. The date of 702 BC for Senecheribs campaign in his 3rd year is known from Assyrian records and the eclipse it coincides with occurred on 5th March 702 BC.

In the Madduwatta Text Odysseus (Attarsiya) is described by the Hittite king Arnuwanda III (1220-1200) as an Achaean (Ahhiyawa) who invaded Cyprus (Alasiya). This was at the time when Odysseus accompanied by Menelaus went to Cyprus to obtain ships from Cinyras for the first gathering at Aulis in 1201 BC two years after Helen had been abducted by Paris.

Pan the son of Penelope may have been derived from the cult of Assyrian king Tiglath-Pileser I 1114 to 1102 or 1076 BC who conquered Caria and destroyed the Hittite civilisation.



Hittite equivalents for Greek names in Asia-Minor



Hittite Name
Greek Name

Wilusa
Lukka
Milawata
Apasa
Ahhiyawa
Arzawa
Alasya
Kaska
Tarhuntassa
Kizzuwadna
Alaksandu
Attarsiya
Mysia or Ilios
Lykia
Millito(s)
Epheso(s)
Ahaiwoi (Achaeans)
Clazom(enae)
Karpasia (in Cyprus)
(Ther)miskyra
Telmissus
Kindos (river)
Alexandro(s)
Odysseo(s)


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Land and Climate in the Greek Myths

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It would indeed be surprising if the body of Greek myths did not make specific mention of the lands and countries in which the stories took place, or were supposed to have taken place. However, many of the myths show transposed place names, stories which are clearly set in the older Middle East, are titles with Greek place names, and told to Greeks as if they were in fact Greek stories. When an Athenian hears the name Erechtheus, and beside it Erichthonius, he has little idea that there is a connection between Athens and the name of one of the royal house of Troy, even less that this name goes back to a Sumerian tradition. Many myths show a functional type of transposition of locale; for example, if Achilles is connected with the Euxine area and tamed horses, he can equally well be put in a place more familiar to Greeks, like Thessaly, since it is also known for horse-raising. Not all such examples can be proven as to place of origin, but the process seems to occur repeatedly, and is natural at a time when populations are moving around. In the United States one finds not only many Burlingtons and Bristols and Yorks, buts also Athens' and Romes, with a thread of cultural connection, thin but still intact. So was it in Greece, which seems the beginning of our Western tradition; it was equally well the tail end of a much older Near Eastern tradition.

Atlas was punished for his participation in the revolt of the Titans (which were underground, volcanic forces) against Zeus god of the sky, and as punishment sent to the far West where he was to hold apart heaven and earth. Mount Atlas, reaching up into the sky, was the later geographic reification of this story. The interesting thing is that the same phrase "holding apart heaven and earth", occurs often in the Vedic literature. Apparently the physical base of this story is the fact that the clouds, sun, planets, and stars do not fall down, that is, they do not obey the law of gravitation which we see working everywhere around us. "What hold the heavens up" is a perfectly reasonable question if one assumes that what is up there has mass, and that gravity operates at all distances. A counter force equal to the mass of what is up there would be required, and an early thinker constructs the figure of a "being" of infinite strength. Later this is tied to the story of Heracles, the man of great strength, and the two stories are conflated.

Not only do volcanoes cast fiery material up into the skies, they also slowly form great mountains, of which flowed lava is the significant reminder. Strata uplifted at distorted angles in ancient times tell the same story, that there are forces under the ground which are trying to push up, and presumably eventually take over heaven. Atlas holds heaven up, while Zeus pushes the volcanic disturbances down, actually the relationship and balance between these two forces amounts to what modern geologists term "isostasy". Atlas in his humble way is only trying to maintain isostasy.

The Cyclopes are the traditional smiths and artificers of Zeus' fiery thunderbolts. In the encounter of Odysseus with Polyphemus, whose name literally means "he who speaks much, the loud talker", the identity of Cyclops with volcanoes becomes clear. Odyssey puts out the one eye of the monster, which is patterned on the red rim of an active volcano, with a burning brand. When Odysseus is on ship again he taunts the monster, who roars and hurls huge stones at him, clear evidence of his volcanic origin.

The sheep of the Cyclops compare directly with the sheep of the god Indra in the Vedic myth cycles, which represent rain clouds and are of prime importance to the whole country. When stolen they must be found and brought back. The stolen sheep of Apollo mentioned at the beginning of the Odyssey must be of similar origin, and those emerging from volcanic eruptions seem to present certain similarities with the Vedic storyline. In any case there are many correspondences between Vedic and early Greek myths, as MacDonnell noted years ago in his work on Vedic Mythology. The volcanic and chthonic deities stand in general opposition to the celestial divinities of the open sky, which are assumed to have come into Greece with the Dorian invasion. But until we know more about the materials still couched unread in the Linear A Mycenean-Minoan tablets, it seems safer to leave the matter open. If Rhys Carpenter's theories about desiccation of the Aegean area after the l4th century B.C. are correct, the incursion of Indo-European speaking Dorians who conquered the autochthonous population(which is still not identified) is likely to be a guess and nothing more.

The underworld realms of Hades call to mind two facts: first that there are more than l5,000 linear miles of caves underlying the greater part of Europe, and also that during the various glacial periods these caves were the home of man as well as a variety other animals. We find at the present time that a surface temperature of about zero Fahrenheit contrasts with subsurface temperatures in the forties at a depth of less than a dozen feet. Inhabitants of our planet older than Man have observed this difference, and profited by it, from the semi-active rabbit and bear to the fully winterized woodchuck who has developed a metabolic rate suitable for true hibernation. All this is dependent on the relatively sharp temperature differential between the surface and the earth a few feet down, and early Man was not likely to miss this important fact. The documentation for this historical phase of Man's domiciling lies in the myriad cave-paintings which underly Europe. It has been estimated that there are at least l75,000 separate figures painted in the caves, and the configuration and organization of the painting may eventually prove to be a sophisticated form of communication, equivalent to writing. Man's dwelling in caves is natural, life-preserving, efficient in glacial times, and well documented.

The world of Hades is drawn graphically from the world of the caves. "Ghosts" live there, the spirits of the dead, but when we look more carefully at what Homer calls the "forceless heads of the dead" which flit by Odysseus in his underworld venture, we note the similarity to the flight of sonar-guided bats who whirr past modern day spelunkers as unerringly as they did two thousand years ago. Two ounce bats are "forceless" indeed, but their flight is even more remarkable in its accuracy. They seem unreal, like ghosts, which is what the Greeks thought they were. The "hateful" rivers of the underworld, with Styx as a literal example (Gr. 'styg-' ="hate"), are the dead, unoxygenated waters which flow beneath the earth. Cerberus of the three mouths is probably nothing more than the triple echo of the sounds of cave-dwellers calling out to each other in the infernal darkness. Lacking physical understanding of sound waves, reflection and echoes, ancient men would naturally infer a real agent, so that a muted, echoing roar would be taken as the sound of the Dog of Hell. The less known river, Pyriplegithron "the burning, fiery one". may show knowledge of underground coal-gas or methane conflagrations, spontaneously combusted.

The spirit of life can be thought of as going upwards as life ceases, joining the gods and merging heavenward with the smoke of cremation. But if bodies are buried, it would be clear that water washes the deteriorated human remains downwards, eventually to the aquifer. (When Dido dies at the end of Book 4 of the Aeneid, part of her goes down and part goes up, a concession to both burial systems.) Wealth lies below, as discovery of metals proves, and the god Ploutos symbolizes the wealth of the underworld.

Mushrooms which grow saprophytically without need for sunlight are consonant with the culture of the underworld life, but when the glaciers withdraw and Zeus makes the overworld fertile again, men come out of their caves and take advantages of what chlorophyllic plants can do for them. Strangely, there seems to be a clear line of demarcation between the modern mycophobic and mycophilic peoples of Europe, which might well be explained by knowing who left the cave world last. But even later, when men live in the sunlight again, they retain the images and folk-memories of their underworld sojourn, and from this material they create the mythology of the "other" world, the world which they feel obtains after death. Rather than thinking of Western man's underworld mythology as figurative, we should recall that after living for millennia in caves, people would naturally retain some memory of his cave-life. Using this as a shadowy backcast to above-earth living, they create the kind of duality of existence which human minds seem to favor. Recall that this process has a foot in history, and analysis of the underworld myth s should be aware of this point.

The Song of the Sirens presents something of a puzzle, since music is generally thought to be pleasing and soothing, not threatening and destructive. The evidence concerning the appearance of the Sirens is twofold: On the one hand they are said to be birdlike with the faces of women. (Sailors in the last two centuries have averred that they actually saw mermaids, fish with womens' heads, which modern oceanographers take to be the way porpoises and seals might have looked to the eyes of sex-starved men too long at sea. Could a similar visual phenomenon be involved with the ancient Greek accounts?) On the other hand, we might well consider the reactions of men who lived in a simpler acoustic world than ours, who would have been far more profoundly affected by auditory stimuli than we can imagine. The whistling of wind through narrow passages in the rocks may have had a totally different acoustic value to them, and it is this matter of acoustic susceptibility which may tell us something about the song of the Sirens. We know from drama and poetry that Greeks were far more susceptible to suggested visual imagery than we are, it may well be that their impressions of a poem or a play approach the immediacy and dynamism we find in a well crafted cinematic performance, which makes the audience feel it is actually "there". Music seems to have impressed the Greeks just as deeply, and this continued well into the Classical period; different scales or "modes" suggested excitement, quiet, contemplation, or even frightening ecstasy. With a wider acoustic-psychological range, the Greeks may have felt a broader spectrum of emotions from music than we know.

It should also be noted that the word "Siren" means in Greek "twinkler", if it is correctly derived from the rare verb 'seriazein' "to twinkle".(The word is also applied to the planets after the notions of the Pythagorean school.) Perhaps it was the "twinkling" or accelerated beats of the music which seem so absorbing to the Greeks, much in the way that the musical third-interval, which produces about twenty beats per second, seemed un-calming and frenzied to l4 th century Church officials, who outlawed it from official church use. This suggests that music is indeed a social variable, and that our way of dealing with sound strictly as an acoustic-phenomenon is unsatisfactory when we are dealing with peoples at different cultural levels. Whatever the Greek material shows is extremely valuable, both because of the Greek society's early date in Western history, and also in the light of the relative fullness of their recording of personal, human reactions. The fact that we have less than a half dozen fragments of musical score from l500 years of Greek history, and know only rudimentary facts about Greek music as an art, makes it all the more important to sift data pertaining to sound and music very carefully.

The name of Nausicaa calls to mind a young princess of great charm, that elegant young lady who met Odysseus early one morning as he crawled out of this thicket that was his shelter for the night. The literary world has always been charmed by the freshness of this remarkable encounter, but there are details which we are likely to miss in our esthetic enthusiasm. Nausicaa leads Odysseus directly into the city. There are no guards, no walls, no city gates to open, they walk right into the palace of her parents, who are the rulers of the island. What could be more reminiscent of the sea-kingdom of Minos which Evans so carefully outlined as the result of his archaeological research at Cnossos? This is a thalassocracy, protected by the broad seas, without need of the usual defenses again land enemies, such as we find around the walled town of Mycene. The ruler to whom Nausicaa introduces her guest is the queen, Arete (perhaps meaning "she who is to be prayed to"; there is no connection with 'arete" "honor")), the king is clearly sitting beside her as a modified consort.. The majority of the people whom Odysseus meets there are ship oriented, most of their names are palpably sea-fictionalized, like "Fast-sail", "Mr. Quick",and so forth. When the games begin, the lightness of limb of the natives is contrasted with the stalwart heaviness of our Greek hero, they even mock him lightly as a ship's captain with his eye on profit. He can't play at their dancy games, instead he hurls a huge rock past the mark as his kind of feat, which is reminiscent of the Scottish hammer throw.

This and other details, which correspond to what we know of the Cretan thalassocracy, and are portrayed in some detail in the remarkable (but heavily reconstructed) Cnossan wall-paintings, suggests that the author of the Odyssey had access to information about Crete as a living culture. The court of Nausicaa may not actually be located on Crete at Cnossos, but it is probably not far away. Homer even has a strange locution about "the present home of the Phaeacians", which implies that they had migrated to the small island of Phaeacia from somewhere else, `perhaps from Crete. ()

The Etesian Winds (from Gr. 'etos' "year", hence annual winds) blow out of the north over the Aegean area in July August and September. It is related that at one times the Cyclades island group was drought-stricken for a long period. They summoned Aristaeos to come to their aid, he did and made offerings to Zeus and Sirius, whereupon the Etesian Winds came and relieved the drought.

Several details must be noted. Aristaeos was the son of Apollo by the nymph Cyrene, whom Apollo carried off and relocated at the Cyrene in North Africa, a city named after her. This connection with North Africa suggests a familiarity with problems of drought and desiccation. Aristaeos was named as a deity presiding over beekeeping. This area of husbandry would be especially sensitive to climatic changes, since bees father the entire supply of their nectar from the flowering plants of Compositae in a period of a few weeks in springtime. Anything that affects flowering plants, touches beekeeping, under which heading Aristaeos is consulted as a suitable authority. The priests of the Cycladic communities would have had two reasons to call on Aristaeos: He knew about bees, and the drought had already shrunk their honey flow. Furthermore he was connected with Cyrene and knew about North African wind circulation, and could thus aid them.

At the core of this story is knowledge of a time when the islands were affected by a severe period of drought. After consultation, praying and a presumably a great deal of waiting, the winds did come and continued to come year after year, so that the country did not have to be abandoned. This subject leads us to take a look at the remarkable theory of Rhys Carpenter which touches on this problem.

In his slim volume Evidences of Discontinuity......... () Rhys Carpenter proposes a radical explanations of some occurrences in the second millennium B.C., which he feels influenced history dramatically. The books is so short and compressed that it seems inadvisable to give a summary of it here, other than to mention the explosion of Santorini which indirectly caused changes in the cross-European wind-cycles. All of Greece was affected by a climate shift in the direction of desiccation, which made the country uninhabitable by the time of the Trojan expedition. The various burned archaeological sites, he feels, are the result of desiccation and accident, in fact they had been abandoned long before the fires, since the inhabitants had fled to the north, perhaps as far as Hungary and Southern Germany, where rainfall was more plentiful.

There are many problems connected with a theory which is of so ancient a time and so sweepingly general. But if it proves itself with the climatologists of the ancient Mediterranean, it can explain many things. First, the flourishing Minoan and Mycenean communities of the second millennium B.C. simply disappeared from the face of the earth. If they were conquered by invaders, the invaders disappeared also, which is very odd. Second, Herodotos speaks of the "return of the descendants of Heracles", which historians have felt was a statement referring to the so-called Dorian invasion (of Greek speaking Indo-Europeans). But since we know from the Linear B documents that Greek was used for many centuries before, and the word "return" is ignored, we can understand Herodotos' statement to mean: "Some long time after the Greeks had left Hellas, their descendants did return to the country, wearing bearskins and using crude Neolithic weapons like clubs, which accorded well with the description of Heracles... "

Interpretation of the Heracles myth adds material to Rhys Carpenter's contention, which is far too important to be discussed in a summary manner. A review of his book and study of what we know about ancient climatology is suggested for anyone who finds this crossing of the Heracles myth and the disappearance of the Minoan population an interesting subject.

Aeolus is described as the son of Hellen (ancestor of the Hellenes, Hellenic etc.) as the founder of the Aeolian or Eastern-Greek ethnic group. In the Odyssey he ties up adverse winds in a leather bag which he gives to Odysseus to assure a safe home-voyage, later myths refer to him as controller or king of the winds, in which role he persists through the ages.

Magical control of the winds only becomes important when seafaring is an critical part of a nation's life. If Aeolus is representative of the Aeolian islands and western Asia Minor, and also controller of the winds, he must be pivotal in some major trade route, probably the passage of ships from the Mediterranean into the economically valuable Euxine Sea. He is thus the priest who performs wind-magic, as well as a king who has the power to manipulate naval trade routes, possibly less a mythic symbol than a real figure in the historical record.

The Oedipous story is not without spiritual meaning, but it terminates in a different place and a different way from what we anticipate. After years of wandering, blind and guilt ridden, Oedipous does find release at the sanctuary of (Athenian) Colonos. What we have failed to notice is that the sign of his release is evidenced in Sophocles play, which is presumably following and ancient tradition, by the 'tri-kumia', a "triple wave". This is the exact mark of the tides reversing, a phenomenon well known to mariners, modern and ancient. Current manuals on tides list this triple-wave as the sign which marks the reversal of the tidal flow, and we can assume that this would not have been unknown to a seafaring people as observing as the ancient Greeks. However the tidal effect in the open parts of the Mediterranean is hardly noticeable, although in long and narrow bodies of water (such as the Adriatic Sea) it is clearly identifiable. A detailed study of tide measurements in various Aegean waters should give us a roster of which places are and which are not suitable for this scene.

As the flow of this life ebbs, and the beginning of another force of flow starts, Oedipous (exactly at this moment) leaves life and enters into the mysterious, uncharted waters of the next world. The suffering of his lifetime is understood to be only part of the greater order of things, and Oedipous embarks on another journey which we can divine but never map. Yet we suspect, as the Greeks surely knew, that it is there!

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William Harris
Prof. Em. Middlebury College
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