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« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2008, 02:51:08 am »

FAST AND SWIFT...
From the survival of a relativly small group - we can see that artical man is appearing in Sweden and Norway already 9.900 year ago. Just a few generations and some 500 years later we find permanent populations ALL OVER the Fenno-Scandian area.

At this time the land was completly bare - only mountains, rocks, sand and clay to be seen. And beaches, fjords and bays - with rivers, lakes and sweetwater; "as long as the eye could see..."

This primary arctical population evidently lived by fishing, - and they where already building sophisticated dog-sledges, river-boats, ocean-boats, fishing-nets and other nesseceties - traveling the coastlines and oceans.

Today Scandinavian archaeology bear witness to artical man appearing 9.900 years ago, whereafter he spread with an incredible speed - all over the northern hemisphere. This first generation of norsemen must already have been "extremly well fit, highly organised and incredibly well prepared to live, flourish and swiftly expanding on a naked landscape, under a rather extreme arctic winter. Further they must have been higly skilled and very well organised to perform this imediate and swift expension.


...FAR AND WIDE
Soon they stretched all the way to Ireland, Orkney and Feroe Island (at latest 6.000 years BP). They probably also reached Greenland and America already that time.
A similar development can be seen towards the east, especially in the period called the "Climatical Optimum" 8000-3000 years ago, when the middle temperature where 2,5-2.8 Celsius-degrees warmer than today.

Thus, the recently discovered Kennewick Man, probably a Caucasian about 9.200 years old, could have reached the Colorado-river both from the North-Atlantic and the northern rivers of Cananda - as from Asia and the Bering-streigth.

EUROPE`s OLDEST PEOPLE...
Two ars ago the Univ. of Huddersfield, doing exstensive research on the European Genome, could publish the conslusion that the present European populations are - all - a mix of two separate imigrations; one very old, one quite new. Except from the Scandinavians, whose genome still is the same as it was 10.000 years ago, - and before. Consequently there was no agraric population over-running the former hunterer-gatherers, as the main theory have said for centuries. "It sems that the Scandinavians have adopted the agriculture, at an early stage, not permitting any farming imigrants", says genetican John Richards.

That being said - doesn`t Richards discovery imply that we may have to look again on our preconceptions of the origin of agriculture?

...AND THIR CULTURE
During the last 30 years we have found that the Norwegian West Coast have hosted a Boat-building fishing-population that is just about 10.000 years old.

Over the past 25 years the span and magnitude of this culture have become very well documented. There are already a number of small exhibitions and "experiential activities" for tourists - along the coast of western/northern Norway.

This summer the present norsemen complete a "national centre" - "NORVEG" - making the first large-scale presentation of Norways 10.000 year old coast-culture. The center is in Rorvik, 200 km north-west of Trondheim. Along with local historians like myself - this is becomming a centre of research and resume for our professional historians, as well as a highly regarded tourist-attraction.

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« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2008, 02:51:21 am »

TOURIST ATTRACTION
The 6000 islands outside Rorvik is stretching far out in the N-Atlantic, bearing witness about ancient boat-trafic and navigational landmarks, - clearly indicating - though not conclusivly prooving - that this extraordinary archipelago was a key-area for the first Scandinavians, not only converning fishing, but also for oceanic travels towards the west.

According to the oldest part of the Norse Sagas we have reason to believe that this boat-culture have populated both sides of the North-Atlantic. Thus a North Atlatic "Treaty" Organisation may have existed once before - in our "ancient past" . As a royal branch of the Scandinavian Sea-Kings - and their successors of sailors and fishermen...! Anyone especially interested may drop me a line on mail.

A FRESH VIEW ON THE OLD HORIZON
Now; all theese brand new, scientifical facts actually agreees with the statements given in the mentioned Family Saga already 20 years ago. Moreover theese facts may also explain parts of the Greek legends. As when Solon/Plato tells that the Atlanteans lived on "A very large Island", that got "overrun by water".

The release of the enormous masses of ice from Finland and Scandinavia was hitting the ocean simultaniously. This evidently created centuries of flooding, substatially hightening the ocean level. A similar cause/consequence is now established to have flooded the Caspian Sea, The Black Sea and the Mediterranean, some 8.700+ years ago.


May we start with concluding that A Atlantis/Altlandis DID indeed exist?!
May I be allowed to focus on Fenno-Scandinavia - during ice-time divided from Russia by the ocean - to candidate for the "enormous island" , "far out in the ocean, outside the Pillars of Hercules"?
And; may the 10.000 years old boats - found within the arctical populations - bear witness to the "Boat People" - reaching Gibraltar and Crete already some 9.500-10.000 years ago?

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So all ya gotta do is find the northern hall of records and translate. Whites could be a mutation. Not all albinos have pink eyes; some have blue (yeah I know they aren't true albinos).Brown bears turned white to form the polar bear. Other northern creatures sport white coats. Yeah, I know, that probably doesn't answer the question either. I'll accept the possibility of most Atlantean theories, but I'll still have my favorites until proof arises that dictates which one is right.
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That`s just a question of precision, accuracy or completness.
Is the legend of "Atlantis", - as we know it from Plato - more accurate in describing the true Atlantis, - than is the old Norse Myths?
Could it be that the story-keepers in the Mediterranean area mixed or blended the rather vague memory of Atlantis, with the similarly vague (and "legendary") stories about Paradise?

According to the Bocksaga the origin of Mankind was evolving from the first family of Man, - from where all human beings descend. This happened during a period refered to as Paradise-time, when the Planet was perpendicular to the sun and the whole ball was tropical/subtropical.

As the population grew, the first family made a organisation to govern the growing family; where the first son became the (nature-chosen) King, his 10 brothers became the Kings Council, - and the 12th brother became the new breeder of the family.

Thus we got the first King of the planet. Now his 12th brother started to breed more than 12 sons/daughters; establishing offspring (called rabis) who went out to start new families and populations around the the first Ringland, called Oden - or "Eden"/"Edon".

As the Rabis established new ringlands, these where populated and governed by their very sons and daughters, who in turn also got children, who also had the right to make children. Thus the King on top of the globe enlarged the Kingdom of Man, through the "Houses" of his Sons, who in turn created Earls with their Manors - where he created the Sirs (Serfs) who went to build and populate each Yard. The serfs sons though were not to perpetuate the "Seed of Life", creating a uncontrolable number of new people.

Consequently we had a five-step pyramidal structure - in which the King is related to each and everyone in the Kingdom - through his sons, grandsons, and grand-grandsons. Thus, - from a certain point of view he became a forefather to all inhabitants. And as he descended in a straight line from the very first man and woman this "Pater Familias" was commonly known as "Allfader" - "Father-of-All".

(Today that still remains in the antique stories of "The Good/God Al-migthy", while "The Lord" actually used to refer to the Landlords, i.e. the Earls and the Rabis. "All-a" though, is seemingly clear.)

During Paradise we had a population slowly expanding - balancing against the surrounding nature, finding harmony with the universal forces. But - after a very long time some men and women got sloppy and ultimately altered the focus; away from "the good" to the indifferent, disobedient or the outright promiscuous.

As "Man turned his face away from the Good Father" Paradise-time started to cease. It all ended with a cataclysmic finale, as the whole earth got shaken and stirred and by shockwaves, - as from an Asteroid. From the oceans we got tremendous amount of water evaporating - to assemble around the poles, where it condensed during a period of only three months; to become two enormous ice-caps, one on each pole.

As said before, - within the ice-cap in the north there was a constant rift, that didn`t freeze up, - because of a stream of hot ocean-water, arriving from the cooking-pot of the Mexican Gulf (where the earth's skin is at its thinnest) towards the east along the rotation of the globe itself, - to be pressed northwards by the deep-ocean polar-currents, - arriving with water still hot - at the Finnish Bay (where the earths "skin" is at its thickest, i.e. oldest).

Inside this rift and "pocket" of the global ice-cap there was a few of the old royals surviving - even being able to recreate and regenerate themselves - becoming more and more fit to live in an arctic surrounding.

When this eonic period ended - the palewhite arcticals began to re-create contact with their southern fellow beings - who had kept their basic structure as 10 Kingdoms around in the tropical world. As the arcticals arrived they managed to reconnect to all kingdoms, reflecting on the different languages - recreating basic words from sounds familiar to all men.

With the arrival of the arcticals in the tropics, the history of the Alt-land-is was fresh on the streets, aprox. 9.500 years ago. But today we can only see the fragments of this news, - as the true stories about us have been violated, altered, twisted, surpressed, falsified and basically forgotten. But still, - around the globe we may find parts or fragments reflecting these most dramatic periods in the history of Mankind.

Not before our day and age are we able to conduct a free and thorough research into these matters, with the nuclear techniques and tests just made avaliable through modern science.

In this retrospect we should not look too fast or hard at the discrepancies that may exist between the only sources existing that may trace us back to find, understand and even recover the lost stories about our ancient ancestors.


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Here is a link which claims that most of the Indo-European peoples (including the Vedic people of India) originated near Finland, during 5000-2000 BC when Finland's climate was warmer than the present by 4 degrees Centigrade. http://www.dipmat.unipg.it/~bartocci/ep6/ep6-vinci2.htm
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Put simply, blue eyes are the result of recessive genes. I.E. it takes 2 of these genes to express blue eyes.
This is born out time and time again in today's world. Brown eyed brown haired couples can produce blue eyed blond haired ofspring. The science of genetics has already proven this.

Before the pole shift, the ice cap was centered in the Hudson Bay. Conversely, the southern ice cap was centered in the Indian Ocean just off Antarctica.

Thus, the transantarctic mountains would give protection from the cold north winds, as Plato described, to Atlantis in Antarctica! Atlantis being near what we call Marie Byrd Land near had a mild climate.

Finland, would be mild, though not via the gulf stream, but by its relatively distant location from the ice cap of long ago.

The fact that more and more "underwater" cities are being discovered lends strength to the arguement that the ocean levels were 200 to 300 feet below current levels, as predicted by an ice cap in the Hudson Bay.

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1.0 It is rather common knowledge that blue/green eyes (and pale complexion) is ressesive to the brown-eyes (and dark complexion). If one of each cuouple to make children, - 3 out of 4 will be brown-eyed, rigth?
1.01 During the last 150 years travel, globetrotting and migrations have exploded. Today we have a multi-cultural world where individuals from all corners of the world meet and couple. With the present speed of cross-etnic breeding the blue-eyed, blond arctical specifics are dropping drastically.
Last year Scandinavian newspapers brougth headlines over repports from British Geneticans who predict that The Last Blonde female is going to be born about 35 years from now...
1.1 That clearly implies that the original mankind was born tropical, with brown eyes and dark complexion. In the tropical hemisphere we may find indigneous populations that still are ALL brown-eyed. Not only are the Meso-American Indians, but also the Africans, Asian indians, the Chinese, the Maori and the Aborigines.
1.12 Now if we where all brown-eyed; How could the blue-eyed mutation occur? How many generations would it take? And what pre-condition are demanded?!

1.2 Since brown-eyes always have been dominant - doesn`t it clearly suggest that the blue-eyed mutation must have developed IN ISOLATION - over a number of generations?
HOW many generations it will take is hopefully a question that the geneticians of today may be able to elaborate. Anyone knowing of some scientifical research on this matter?

1.3 ICE-TIME: The maximum spread of the ice-caps - and the sequences of the melting-preocesses are still not close to "conslusive knowledge". But we are getting closer all the time! The recent issue of the scientific journal "Nature" is bringing the last update. Just click to: www.naturemagazine.uk

2.0 Great web-site You refer to Atalante! The Italian professor Felice Vinci - a leading authority on Homeric Litterature - is incredibly spot on to something "really big" here. Funny that it conicides so incredibly well with the Finish Sagas...

2.1 In the oldest greek litterature we can also read about "Hyperborea" is the land at the northern rim of the world - inhabitated by the "peacefull, blissfull and longlived".

2.2 Moreover, a decade ago I heard present Greek historians (mythologists) explaining that Apollon where arriving to Olympos from the high North. A similar "legend" is said to be refered in India, where Hanuman where descending from the high north.

3.0 According to different myths - from around the globe - we hear of a "Golden Age" of Humankind, also refered to as the "Paradise-time".

3.1 After Paradise we got "the expeltion" as the paradisial culture broke up - to finally cease and terminate. This is explained in different ways by differnt traditions; but they all agree to the core of the matter - that "Man behaving studiply" was the initial cause of the downfall. The occurence of the enormous ice-caps was a cataclysmic consequence.

3.2 With glimmering glaciers and sparkling snowflakes the southern populations could talk of a "Silver Age", when a isolated group in the north experienced a horrible climate ("Fimbulwinter") - initiated a period of complete isolation, because all the land around them where entirely covered with ice. In Scandinavian tongue that is (still!) called "Alt-Land-is", which may answer the question about what language the Atlantens spoke...

3.3 After the fall of Paradise - and "The Kingdom of the Heavens" - we got a period of several kingdoms, also litterated as "The Kingdoms of The Earth". Now mankind developed into different brancehes within the different geographical parts. Still we find theese different races, cultures and languages. In the very east the Chineese still are Chineese, the Indians still Indians, - and so on until we find the Inkas at the western rim of the world.

3.4 All theese people are obviously more than 10.000 years old. And it is still a puzzle to me how "modern man" could have been developing into 10-12 completly different races/cultures and languages in just about 40.000 years - when ALL "modern man" are said to have been jumping out of Africa.

3.5 By the way: During the press-conference before the Sydney Olympic 2000 it was "released" that Australian scientists just have been finding remains of Aboriginals that more than 110.000 years old. Does that mean that the "Out of Africa-THEORY" (70-40.000 BP) is outdated - OR does it mean that the Aboriginal populations does not belong to "Homo Sapiens sapiens" ?!?

3.6 There are obviously great revisions to be made in our modern science. But - as I have been pointing to in this forum; there is now existing - in public - a source of information from the old traditions of Saga- and Story-telling that actually gives an outrigth, detailed and chronological explanation to the different periods of development that Mankind have gone through.
Now - WE may choose to ignore or even dismay this source - but that would be ignoring and dismaying our very own history...

4.0 The Bockström Family Saga gives a broad resume of our legendary, mythological and cultural history. As the isolated arctic population where able to keep the MEMORY of our common Paradise-time; as they survived the eonic ice-time in a local isolation.

4.1 As they finally survived "Alt-land-is-time" this Arctical "Boat-people" where able to reconnect with the different tropical kingdoms, as in the Mediterrenean about 9.500 years ago.
Here they got known as the "Atlanteans" explaining to come from the "Atlantis" - as they told their story about their hard time of isolation during the "Alt-land-is-period" (All-land-ice-period).

4.2 Included in their Sagas where the Atlanteans memory of Mans common origin and his ancient "high-culture", during Paradise-time.
Besides an extraordinary knowledge of the past the Atlanteans (Good men - Goods) should have brougth different "goods" to their tropical brethren, such as domestic plants and animals,as well as the technological prosessing of different metals for decoration and tool-making.

4.3 About 4.000-3.500 years ago we know that violence and war started to spread in Major Asia, soon reaching Persia, Greece and Egypt. Finanly also the Roman population got infected by "the culture of war".

4.31 From then on the historical treasures, the finer arts and the old tradions of knowledge and culture got distorted and destructed. Finally the entire classical culture, such as the Egyptian, Greek and Roman got destroyed, - as did their liberaries, their olympics and their academies.

4.32 At the end of "The Bronze Age" we may see how Solon and Plato where of the only few who was still able to keep A MEMORY of the very roots of the classical Greek-Roman culture.

4.4 As the famous Caesar organised criminals and bred murderers ("solidiers") into a horrendous army, tyrrany and the culture of war also broke into Europe. Thus the classical Celtic culture was splintered, but it still took a millenium before the most "peaceful corner of the world"; Scandinavia, was conquerred.

4.5 By the 16th century the culture of death and destruction had accelrated to enormous dimensions as even "The New World" - "Terra Fortunate" - was to be raped, masacred and plundered. And, - as we all know - this most unfortunate of all cultures are still ruling major parts of our world.

5.0 Only in the most remote parts of the Northern Hemisphere where the substantial knowledge from Antiquety able to survive the last two milleniums massive destruction of civilisations and culture. But the complete and historical Saga of Humanitys ancient Antiquety was only kept in the Boxström Family - the last remaining descendents from the ancient "Kingdom of Vinland" (Finland). According to the legends refered to in a present article in Atlantis Rising - about the Spanish conquistador De Soto - this Old Vinland was the "sacred place" where "The Hall of Records" are to be found. See also: www.bocksaga.de and look at the menu under: Leminkainen.


 
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So all ya gotta do is find the northern hall of records and translate. Whites could be a mutation. Not all albinos have pink eyes; some have blue (yeah I know they aren't true albinos).Brown bears turned white to form the polar bear. Other northern creatures sport white coats. Yeah, I know, that probably doesn't answer the question either. I'll accept the possibility of most Atlantean theories, but I'll still have my favorites until proof arises that dictates which one is right.
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Look at the Sagas web-site Brigg - there is a story about a hallway in different northern myths and legends.
In the Saga from 1984 it was pointed to a mountain top in the Finish countryside of "Sibbo" (compare de Soto`s "Cibola")where the entrance was said to be. Furthermore the nature of the entrance was explained in detail.
As You may read there was a large excavation done in the years 1987-1992 that really proved that the entrance of the hallway DOES exist. Before the funding ran out the crew had dug out a 4x5 metres wide hallway going about 70 metres straigth into the mountain...


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Boreas,
No big arguement from me.

The science of genetics is more complicated. For example 3 out of 4 is a good estimate. But put more concisely, each child has a 25% chance of expressing the blue eyed blond haired trait (assuming both partners carry the recessive gene). As you know, flipping a coin randomly is a 50 - 50 proposition, yet just because you got a heads the first time does not mean that you will get a tails on the next flip. I've seen 8 heads in a row. But over the long haul, the percentage is 50 - 50.

There is the complication that the couple only had three children! The bottom line is that the brown eyed brown haired people can carry the recessive gene. Another example, say one partner carries the brown and the blue eyed gene, but the other partner doesn't (brown,blue + brown,brown). The percentage changes.

What we do know is that (blue,blue + blue, blue) always produces a blue eyed offspring. If a population of recessive traits was isolated, it is a fact that the children would all be blue eyed.

There are many combinations of genes available to humans in general. The mixing of these genes produce great variety.


As far as the first humans, debate continues. Were we the result of millions of years of genetic recombinations and mutations? Or were we "created"? I've heard many stories and myths explaining the Red, Black, Yellow, and White races. The human blood types (O, A, B, AB and their positive and negative sub types) is also a puzzle. Why do two of our chromosomes look "fused" together? Were humans indeed created in the "gods" own image? The Sumerians say their gods, the Anunnaki, created humans. Of note, the Sumerians have accurate written description of the planets (long before modern man sent a space probe).

The Boxström Family site mentioned here is interesting. Verbal details in the stories have been verified. Ring Land is a nice concept. Perhaps there was a time that the earth axis was truly perpendiclar to the sun. We know that it was not always 23 degrees. I'm sure more and more archeaological finds will happen that will further our knowledge of ancient times.

Can you imagine the Roman general's expression when he saw for the first time that the Celts had chariots!

Plato's casual reference to the "counter continent" in the Atlantis story blows me away!

The Incas and Spanish have myths about a white people that came from the south.

I believe that Flem-Ath proposed that the remnants of the Atlantians (in Antarctica) migrated north after the "sinking". Plato says that Atlantis was a vast maritime power before the disaster. A vast maritime power would have "colonies" through out the world. This is a plausible explaination of ancient cultures we are discovering or have already discovered.

Lots of pieces of the puzzle to put together. The big picture is harder still in that a lot of the pieces have yet to be discovered!

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As one may see the newly discovered Saga explains that the first human beeings where born from a coupulation between to of the highest mammals known; a monkey and a nanny-goat (!)
The incident is said to have taken place on the most energetic playground of the old, pre-icetime earth, i.e. the old north-pole.
This twin couple was of oposite sex, to be known as "Fröy" and "Fröya". "Frö" still means seed, while "y" refers to the key of the male (fallos) and "a" to the (a-daptive) "doorway" of the female.
The place where this was happening was to be called O-den, as in "The O", meaning "The Circle". According to the myth the land of "Oden" was placed at the "top of the pole" with "Hel" ("Whole") as its centre.
From here the first human beeings (the twins) where able to succesfully mate, - to breed the first family of human beings, calling themselves "Aser".

According to the Bocksaga already the first two people (Fröy and Fröya) had a complete vocalubary of human sounds. Thus they created the first language - later called "Rot" ("root"). This is said to still be exisiting in the northern hemisphere.

From the pole within the first circle (pi); "pee-pole" or "people" became fruitful and spread throughout the planet, according to a plan to maintain a natural natural and good life. This period was then called "Paradise-time".

At one point men deviated from the natural and good life, creating the preconditions for a great cataclysm hitting the eart about 50 million years ago. The Saga describe this dramatic shift as a relocation of the earths axis - starting a climatical disaster, as the northern and southern hemisphere got iced down by two enourmous ice-caps. As said before that was to be the start of "Alt-land-is-time", - today known as "ice-time".

As one may know "ice-time" is a pretty new concept, as is modern Geology. Thus the information from the Saga is even more puzzeling, as it describes a lot of specifics about the ice-caps that just have been discovered by current science.

The Saga tells that the old north pole was situated where we today find the far thickest part of the earth surface, today known as the Fenno-Scandic shield. Further it states that the old ringland of Oden - the centre during Paradise-time - now is to be found in Finland, where we (still) find the county of Oden-ma, with its centre Hel-sinki. How could the old oral tradition so explicitly tell where modern Geophysics would discover the thickest part of the earths entire surface?

During ice-time we had enourmous ice-caps executing substatial tectonic pressure resulting in an ongoing continental drift, isolating continents - with all their plants, animals and people. The people inside the Baltics where caugth in isolation, becomming white. Around the equatorial waters people grew into different races in different shades of coulours (as in "rays" from the sun...)

After 50 million years this isolation was broken - starting a process of reunion between the white seafarers from Altlantis and their different tropical brethren. Thus the Meso-Americans tell about their "True White Brother" arriving "from the east" and the Mediterranean myths tell about the Atlanteans. Since arcticals staying in the warm sunshine gets a rather glossy complexion of yellowish (golden) brown they where also called "the shining" - as in Meso-tomanian legends.

May this old Nordic saga actually offer an explanation to our origin? May a 50 million years long ice-time - where geographical areas and large societies got isolated - be the cause of the different "rays" (kinds) of people existing today?
Are not all speaking creatures neccesarily stemming from the same origin?
May a nanny-goat be the missing link in the evolutionary concept?! And, finally; doesnt the incredibly logic and stringent complexity of this Saga - stating a complex variety of unknown information along with well-known history and brand new scientific discoveries - in itself prove that this source of information is something far more than, say; the result of an impressive scientific theory or an ingenious, spot on intuition?!


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When you brought up the part about a nanny-goat and a monkey, I think you lost all of your support on this theory. Or were you just joking?
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i would have to say - one of the more astounding concepts/theories thus far put forth in the threads here. now for the encore ...
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And Adam was made from clay! And Eve from Adam's rib. The Aztecs were made from corn. Hey, it is a myth with some "hidden truth" behind it.
The "twin" theme is common in mythology. Rome was founded by twins. The Atlantis story mentions severl sets of twins. Twins are mentioned in some American Indian myths. No doubt there is an esoteric meaning behind all of this.
Food for thought, the Sumerians claim that they were not only created by their gods, the Anunnaki, but that they were ruled by their gods for many hundreds of thousands of years.

The Hindu myths say man was around for several million years. They have stories about their gods fighting each other. As do the Greeks, Egyptians, Sumerians, etc. The Hindu myths describe "flying machines" used by the gods. And archeologists have found evidence that nukes were used long long ago in India.

And "ringland"? The capital city of Atlantis was composed of concentric rings! A distant mythological memory perhaps?

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« Reply #27 on: November 16, 2008, 02:55:27 am »

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Research about the mitochondrial DNA of nanny-goats shows that the "original" mother goat lived around 10,000 BC. http://www.cnrs.fr/cw/en/pres/compress/ChevreDome.htm
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Tarkin: The "evidence" of nuclear events in the past are as yet circumstantial. But you will also find these circumstantial evidences also in the Sahara and Scotland. But none are proven to be manmade; as yet.
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« Reply #29 on: November 16, 2008, 02:56:01 am »

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The myths concerning our creation and the science of our origin are all adressing the same issue. The challenge for our generation is to find the best possible information of both kinds of sources.
Whether we arose from the dust of the earth or we were created by a mutation of a schimpanse is still a to be solved question. Who can tell before modern science have adressed this question specifically if the nanny goat was helping the monkey to turn into a human being.
The features of the modern man are obviously baring structures that are not present in the monkey such as a big forehead, a straight spine and the female feeding organs.
Three things that the monkey does not have but can be seen in a normal nanny goat: a big forehead, a straight spine and the female feeding organs.

This really interesting but no problem.
How about the biology, Boreas?


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