Boreas
Member posted 03-17-2004 19:25
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Hi Sadie,
I think You may be pointing towards England. As you may know the southern parts of these isles where (as the Baltic isles) kept ice-free, all through the eons of time when the "global" ice-cap dwelt on the rest of the northern hemisphere.
When the Baltic isolation where broken, 10.000 years ago, England became a key-area for the emigrating "caucasians", - as they searched to the south and the milder climate. Thats why the meso- and neo-littic cultures in England may show so clear and impressive signs corelated to the culture of Atlantis.
We also know that agriculture came very, very early to the Brittish isles, where seeds of 8.000 years old domestic plants have been found. (A few years ago they found a 8000 year old, cealed jar of burnt clay containing seeds of hemp. The professional asessment was that the plant had been used as a drug "for ancient religious exercises". It may seem that todays Brittish historians of today have completly forgotten that hemp used to be "the arctic bamboo", as it served as a raw-material for "almost anything", such as isolation and roofing, sails, ropes, clothes and covers, brushes and household-tools, oil and food. And - as we all know, but only some accept - hemp has always been smoked also, - for rest and relaxation.
One may wonder what "religion" really have to do with a 8000 year old archaeological site. And who can tell if theese people where "religious" - long beofe anyone have mentioned the word "religare"...? They may have been completly convinced agnostics for all we know!
Most likely did the old englishman have a solid philosophical grounding, based on a historical understanding of themselves and their inherited culture. Anyhow, these early artic culture have been very close to a highly observant, most realistic and methodic study of nature and its cycles - merely to survive...! That implies that the arctic culture - with a most impressive neolittic and bronze-age-prdoucts - where definitly occupied by the natural sciences, as we see the enormous megalittic temples, halls and astronomical observatories. Not to mention the development of advanced metallurgy, such as the creation of bronze, "to shine as gold".
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Today we know that the Mediterranean cultures, such as the Egyptian and the Phoenician, where regulary sailing all the way to England for puposes of trade and cultural interchange. May the Sumerians and the Assyrians have done the same?!
The route to England, and then further north, through the North Sea and the Baltic Sea are also described in the Homeric litterature, - according to Dr. Felice Vinci and others. Did you check on his homepage, Sadie? (The link "Homer in The Baltic" is found on the homepage of
www.bocksaga.de UNfortunately I do not know the Celtic material you refer to. But I have heard and read some similar stories to the vessels you describe.
According to the late Dr. Thor Heyerdahl stories about "Vessels of Feathers Flying", "Arriving from the East - over the Ocean" was found in all the myths and legends that Senòr Kon-Tiki found and got to investigate "among the 500 different tribes still existing in the Americas."
Theese myths even tell about white, bearded men, etc. and refering to "The Teacher"/"The Migthy"/"The Good (God) One"/"The True White Brother"/etc. Heyerdahl found the similarity to the well-known Viking-ships to be obvious, since they look like "featherd bodies - FLYING in the Wind (Air) - as they aproach from the horizon..."
I think the old arcticals new much more about nature and the world than we normally credit our anchestors. And I think they made a major effort to link all parts of the world back to ONE common knowledge of our globe, our nature, our own origin - as well as the basic eras of our development ("history") as human beings. Based on real ("scientific") knowledge and a wide understanding of THEIR past and present.
Along the line - some 2.500-3.000 years ago we can detect the first abruption of violence and warfare. Then we see the development of warlords using their force to conquer capital cities, killing the kings (such as the JuPiters, Zeus` and later the Pharao-lines) to become rulers - or "tyrant-kings" themselves. Thus we got nationally organised "armies" - to conquer, rob, rule and enslave any accesible neighbour.
Thus we see that the existence of the old, legal kinglines - and their nobilities - got estinguished - in more and more countries. Soon it was even prohibited to keep the memory, not to mention the history of the old culture and its forebearers. Finally we got the horrors of a millenia, namely the cultural desert-land called "The Midle Age" - where "a new time" and "the heavenly kingdom" was introduced and ministered with the most intricate disipline.
At the end of the day all memories of the old, classical world was as good as lost - and all stories, books and traditions that told about "pagan time" was completly and entirely eradicated. So was also all memories and stories connected to the old culture, that reflected out common history and our legitimate, constitutional leaders.
Thanks to an ongoing endavour of individual, social and political unrest there is hardly any clear, lityterate source left explaining the realities of our ancient culture. Not before an incredible Family-saga appears - from the deep forests of Finland, litterally at the fringe of "civilisation", as we consider it - in OUR day and time.
Since this new material exists we have to take it into consideration. Although this story may seem more than fantastic it has proven rigth on a number of tests. Moreover it has risen statemnets hereto unknown to science, that have actually proven to be rigth. To everybodies surprise...
Today the Finnish saga-material have proven its scientific basis - beyond doubt. The pictures, figures and repports given on the mentioned web-site are not animated, they`re excavated! Accordingly we have to review our history as our known mythologies in this new ligth. Just as the "Celtic" cross - the encircled sun - may be a uni-verse-all symbol, brought straigth out of Atlantis/AltLandIs/AtlAntis - to all four corners of the world...
