the Emerald Tablet of Thoth (Original Version)

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  posted 01-04-2007 06:00 PM                       
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"Was thought", "Supposedly last seen with Alexander the so-called great", Rumored, thought, maybe, supposedly, possibly, etc.etc. Show me, or anyone on this forum, proof positive that these so called tablets ever existed. As far as I can find the first mention of these hypothetical tablets came out of nowhere just prior to World War one. A fairytale can circulate for so long that people will begin to believe it. Adolph Hitler said, "Tell a lie long enough and everyone will accept it as the truth." That story about Alexander the Great is nothing more than wishfuyl thinking on the part of those who WANT to believe that they exist. It isn't recorded in conventional history.
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I agree Brig however we aren't entirely sure of what may be in the "Hall of Records". Cayce does say that all the wisdom and history of the world and the true history of the human race is in the Hall. That being said then maybe it could be quite possible that the said Emerald Tablets are in that Hall. If you read my topic post about "King Solomon's Temple" In Egypt? I have alluded to such as "The Books of Thoth" which could be very well either written on emerald or somehow the information is stored whithin them. Science is just now discovering ways to record information using crystals so I wouldn't be suprised if in a few years they come up with something that would be able to read them as well like those crystal skulls. Also if science can't come up with the solution to "read" the information inside the crystals then it may take some sort of "Enlightened" person or "Chosen One" that is intuitive to do so.

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IF they find the Hall of Records, and IF the emerald tablets are therein. Then we will all know they exist and will only need to know whether or not Thoth knew what he was talking about or was talking through his crown. Assuming anyone can discipher a language that has to be the oldest in existance.
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Then we will all know they exist and will only need to know whether or not Thoth knew what he was talking
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If they are in there,he must of know what he was talking about ! 

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Originally posted by Brig:
IF they find the Hall of Records, and IF the emerald tablets are therein. Then we will all know they exist and will only need to know whether or not Thoth knew what he was talking about or was talking through his crown. Assuming anyone can discipher a language that has to be the oldest in existance.
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I think that it will take a special sort of person. It could be someone who is not trained but has an "inner-knowing". If I remember correctly they are figuring out how to put information in to crystals so they might be able to find something to bee able to read then or the person with "The Gift" may be able to read it just by touching it. Even if it is in fact inscribed the person who is "The Chosen One" should be able to "read" it without worrying about actually being able to read it.

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   posted 01-09-2007 03:10 PM                       
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While the Emerald Tablets of Thoth may be a modern invention, there is an intriguing possibility that they may allude to a legend that goes back to 6th century Scotland. This is very speculative, of course, but the "emerald" tablets may be made of green amber. Natural green amber is a mix of clear amber and that with a pale greenish-yellow tone. Generally it contains inclusions of organic matter from plants and soils. These inclusions are large and the amber is beautiful and unusual. Amber that is heated may also turn a very lush, soft green, so amber tablets that have gone through a heating process such as engraving would appear to be emerald. Amber formed in panels or sheets was also known as "glass". Which leads us to the legend that may refer to the "Emerald Tablets":

An angel sent to Columba from heaven held in his hand a Book of Glass, regarding the appointment of kings. Having received the book from the hand of the angel, the venerable man, at his command, began to read it; and when he was reluctant to appoint Aidan king of Dalriada, as the book directed, because he had a greater affection for Iogenan his brother, the angel, suddenly stretching forth his hand, struck the saint with a scourge, the livid marks of which remained in his side all the days of his life. And he added these words: Ò Know for certain," said he, "that I am sent to thee by God with the Book of Glass, that in accordance with the words thou hast read therein, thou mayest inaugurate Aidan into the kingdom of Dalriada.

The Book of Glass was thought to have come into the possession of the descendants of Arthur, one of which was Prince Madoc of Gwynedd who supposedly discovered America in 1170. In 1162, Gypsies, who had come from North India via Russia, Romania, and Germany, wandered into Wales and were given safe haven by Madoc's father, Owain Gwynedd. Madoc questioned them about India and possible westward routes to that land. In the process, he showed them an artifact, thought to be the Book of Glass, from which the Gypsies took the symbols and lore which became the Tarot.

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A lot of legend. But how far back is it traced in actual history. I have no problem with legend as it is usually based on some sort of fact. But even legends need verification. The problem of the Emerald Tablets of Thoth is they aren't even legend. They trace back to the very early 20th century (or very late 19th) and no verifiable record of them exists further back, not even as legend.
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Stories and fairytales can, over long periods of time, take on lives of their own. The Lemurian tale is a prime example. Even relatively respectable publications will often mention the "fabled Lemuria". Yet this story can be easily traced back to a group of 19th century scientists who speculated that two widely divided populations of lemurs (a lemur is an early form of monkey) probably were once one population that existed on a land bridge that extended from Madagascar to India. This land bridge was given the name Lemuria (see the connection? It was named after the lemurs). However by early in the 20th century it was discovered that no land bridge existed in that area in the past few million years. Science fiction writers needing a romantic area for their stories picked up on the Lemuria theme and.....walla....people think its a lost civilization, frequently even placing it in the wrong ocean with Mu. You will find, even today, many romantics who still think this was a legitimate sunken civilization rather than the fact it was no more than a handy explaination (though incorrect) of why protomonkey populations were separated.
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   posted 01-09-2007 05:08 PM                       
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Brig,

The story of the Book of Glass appears in St. Adamnan's Vita Columbae, the biography of St. Columba. Adamnan was born in 624. The association of the kings of Dalriada with the legendary Arthur is debatable but accepted by many Arthurian scholars, as is the link to the kings of Gwynedd, North Wales. While the late 12th century date for the appearance of Gypsies in Wales is early - they were thought to have come from India into Europe in the 13th century, it is not inconceivable. It is known that the "deep" or inflected Romani was still spoken in Wales as late as the early 20th century, long after it had died out among the rest of the gypsy groups in Europe. No other historical links are available.

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If the legend of "Emerald Tablets" and coming from Scotland is true this makes a lot of sense. There's a legend that one of Rameses' daughters, name Scota, left with her husband to the area which is now Scotland. So the idea of Egyptian artifacts showing up in Scotland helps with a theory of mine that I have concerning the Neolithic people of the area migrating to Egypt. Later they became Celts, then later still some Egyptians when they became the Israelites made a migration to that area. Their blood lines ran closely together and they blended well with the Celts.

I will write a full topic on it at another time

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I'm afraid DNA evidence contradicts this theory, Bear. The people of the Isles have inhabited the same area since before the end of the last ice age and they are not geneticly kin to either the Israelites nor the Egyptians. The legends, however, do persist that there is a connection. You might want to check a couple of the threads on this forum - Boreasi's NEW file, for one - also the discussion of Homer in the Baltic.

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Okay thank you.

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http://www.sofiatopia.org/equiaeon/emerald.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerald_Tablet
"The oldest documentable source for the text is the Kitab Sirr al-Asrar, a pseudo-Aristotelian compendium of advice for rulers authored by Abd al-Qadir al-Jilani in around 800 AD."
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As for the crystal links Tablet...
This is traced to a Professor M Doreal in 1929.

It is a hoax created by this guy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulcanelli
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  posted 01-13-2007 05:24 PM                       
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As I've said before. Tell a story long enough and some people will come to believe it to be true. We can only hope that Atlantis is not such as this. But at lest Atlantis can be traced back to a legitamate source circa three thousand years ago.
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