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Nibiru, planetX, the Urantia Book and Doomsday

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« on: March 30, 2008, 08:07:57 am »

Here is some videos on Doomsday

Polar shift is a good consideration

DOOMSDAY 2012: End of Days - Part 1 of 2


DOOMSDAY 2012: End of Days - Part 2 of 2


Here is one of PlanetX  could this be the great threat and could be related to the dark space body that helped form this Solar System mentioned in the UB.



This is the only thing I can find in the UB which may explain Angona which could be Planet X

http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimpse/webglimpse/usr/local/www/data/papers?query=Angona&submit=Submit

The effect of Angona

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This great column of solar gases which was thus separated from the sun subsequently evolved into the twelve planets of the solar system. The repercussional ejection of gas from the opposite side of the sun in tidal sympathy with the extrusion of this gigantic solar system ancestor, has since condensed into the meteors and space dust of the solar system, although much, very much, of this matter was subsequently recaptured by solar gravity as the Angona system receded into remote space.

This part.

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this Angona system receded into remote space so Angona does resides in deep space and may actually orbit this Solar System, apparently in the past we captured some satellites from it according the UB.  Also Angona being a system has planets or tributaries around it.

and here is another fragment about the Angona System

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Although Angona succeeded in drawing away the ancestral material of the solar system planets and the enormous volume of matter now circulating about the sun as asteroids and meteors, it did not secure for itself any of this solar matter. The visiting system did not come quite close enough to actually steal any of the sun's substance, but it did swing sufficiently close to draw off into the intervening space all of the material comprising the present-day solar system.

So this Angona is an orbital swing relates to the Sun and orbits in deep space perhaps only to return with its planets to cause havoc??  By the looks of it, it does have an effect on our solar system.

mmmm interesting, Is Angona related to PlanetX?  and is this planet related to the end times??  Could be a strong possibility.

To me the Angona System (with its planets and tributaries) is the Brown Dwarf that is described in the above video of PlanetX.

and here is the UB account.

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4,500,000,000 years ago the enormous Angona system began its approach to the neighborhood of this solitary sun. The center of this great system was a dark giant of space, solid, highly charged, and possessing tremendous gravity pull.

This is where our doomsday might come from, through polar shift due to this failed sun make a close approach affecting our earth, this is where the earth is rocked on its foundations. 

Im sure the PlanetX companion to our Solar System.  That was interesting!

Here is an update Video of PlanetX



And here is video with pictures of Nibiru and its planets, the Angona System!



Here is a picture of Nibiru or the Angona System.



Is this representative of Judgement day??  Its definitely a dark space body like a brown dwarf which have planets planets orbiting around the brown dwarf and does swing by the earth!  This is another reason for rapture, to avoid this tribulation which may result in Polar shift!

This could be the confirmation of what is to come on all levels.  I also remember that it expected to be here in 2012,  4 years time but I have to confirm that.

Here is a confirmation from the UB of the angle of the Angona orbit in relation to our sun plain and explains the retrograde planet and angles of orbit around it planet.

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The planets do not swing around the sun in the equatorial plane of their solar mother, which they would do if they had been thrown off by solar revolution. Rather, they travel in the plane of the Angona solar extrusion, which existed at a considerable angle to the plane of the sun's equator.

and here is a little more that fills the gaps of the Angona System with PlanetX/Nibiru

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While Angona was unable to capture any of the solar mass, your sun did add to its metamorphosing planetary family some of the circulating space material of the visiting system. Due to the intense gravity field of Angona, its tributary planetary family pursued orbits of considerable distance from the dark giant; and shortly after the extrusion of the solar system ancestral mass and while Angona was yet in the vicinity of the sun, three of the major planets of the Angona system swung so near to the massive solar system ancestor that its gravitational pull, augmented by that of the sun, was sufficient to overbalance the gravity grasp of Angona and to permanently detach these three tributaries of the celestial wanderer.

The above fits all the pieces of the Angona system as the Nibiru, it matches in all details.  I can see all the characteristics in the image above of the Angona System.

And in this part demonstrates that the Angona system does have some far away orbit of the Sun as demonstrated over time swinging ever closer to the Sun.

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As the Angona system drew nearer, the solar extrusions grew larger and larger; more and more matter was drawn from the sun to become independent circulating bodies in surrounding space. This situation developed for about five hundred thousand years until Angona made its closest approach to the sun; whereupon the sun, in conjunction with one of its periodic internal convulsions, experienced a partial disruption; from opposite sides and simultaneously, enormous volumes of matter were disgorged. From the Angona side there was drawn out a vast column of solar gases, rather pointed at both ends and markedly bulging at the center, which became permanently detached from the immediate gravity control of the sun.

There you have it our Angona wandering and visiting system which periodically visits us and causes havoc!!  Confirmed in the UB and seen in the image.

I think this is a huge confirmation.

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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2008, 04:58:57 am »

More videos on Nibiru

This video provides some balance to the Nibiru video and some other things












You have to make up your own mind on the images

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« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2008, 07:05:52 am »

Ive been thinking about Nibiru and I feel Nibiru is the Angona System that is described in the Urantia Book.

In the following, I'm trying to find parallels with the UB and the descriptions of Nibiru with common physical aspects.

Here is some fragments.

             
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  they travel in the plane of the Angona  solar extrusion, which existed at   a considerable angle to the plane of the sun's equator.     
Here is example of Nibiru's orbit

           

            

Seems to match the UB account on that point.

             
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While Angona was unable to capture any of the solar mass, your sun did add to its metamorphosing planetary family   some of the circulating space material of the visiting system.
So its a visiting system but I wonder weather its periodical?

OK, this fragment is filled with much information.

             
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Due to   the intense gravity field of Angona  ,

  its tributary planetary family pursued orbits of considerable distance from the dark giant;
So its a body that has an intense gravity field which seems to corroborates what is known about Nibiru.

It has a family of Satellites that orbits around Nibiru and which seems to be the case in the images of Nibiru.

Nibiru is a dark Giant which seems to describe a Brown Dwarf and is exactly what we see in the Nibiru images.

The above 3 points are an exact match to we see today.

             
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the Angona system   swung  so near to the massive solar system.
The Angona system   Swung  so it infers that there is an orbit involved a very large elliptical orbit.

             
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to permanently detach these three tributaries of the celestial wanderer.
Its a celestial wanderer which has planets but an wandering system on a large elliptical orbit.

             
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  As the Angona system drew nearer,  the solar extrusions grew larger and larger; more and more matter was drawn from the sun to become independent circulating bodies in surrounding space.
Its definitely related to the Sun and is the activator where mass spewed out of the Sun to eventually form the planets.

             
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  developed for about five hundred thousand years until Angona made its closest approach to the sun; 
The above proves now that the Angona system is in an Orbit around the Sun.  Over time this Orbit came close activated the sun to make our Solar system.

             
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From the   Angona side there was drawn out a vast column of solar gases, rather pointed at both ends and markedly bulging at the center,    
What a site that would of been

             
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4,500,000,000 years ago the enormous Angona system began its approach to the neighborhood of this solitary sun. The center of this great system was a dark giant of space, solid, highly charged, and possessing tremendous gravity pull.    
So 4,500,000,000 years ago it all began, the Angona system in its log distance orbit was drawn  closer to the sun only to cause disruption again proving a long term relationship with Sun and also demonstrates a varying orbit.

The Sun is the mother and the Father is the Angona System in metaphor.

             
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  The planets do not swing around the sun in the equatorial plane of their solar mother  , which they would do if they had been thrown off by solar revolution.   Rather, they travel in the plane of the Angona solar extrusion, 

which existed   at a considerable angle to the plane of the sun's equator.
So the Planets swing in accordance to plain of the Solar extrusion initiated by the Angona System.  Not the Sun equatorial plain.

Is that right?  So therefore there should be a considerable angle of the (Angona Pain) plain of the planets and the Suns equatorial plain.

       
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  your sun did add to its metamorphosing planetary family some of the circulating space material of the visiting system. 
Some of the matter was added to the family of the Sun.

       
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Due to the intense gravity field of Angona, its tributary planetary family pursued orbits of considerable distance from the dark giant; and shortly after the extrusion of the solar system ancestral mass and while Angona was yet in the vicinity of the sun, three of the major planets of the Angona system swung so near to the massive solar system ancestor that its gravitational pull, augmented by that of the sun,   was sufficient to overbalance the gravity grasp of Angona and to permanently detach these three tributaries of the celestial wanderer. 
And what of the 3 bodies that was added to the family of the Sun? and what is retrograde motion?

       
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All of the solar system material derived from the sun   was originally endowed with a homogeneous direction of orbital swing,  and had it not been for the intrusion of these three foreign space bodies,   all solar system material would still maintain the same direction of orbital movement.  As it was,   the impact of the three Angona tributaries injected new and foreign directional forces into the emerging solar system with the resultant appearance of retrograde motion. 

  Retrograde motion in any astronomic system is always accidental and always appears as a result of the collisional impact of foreign space bodies. 

Such collisions may not always produce retrograde motion,   but no retrograde ever appears except in a system containing masses which have diverse origins
This all matches!


I think this the Nibiru XPlanet but no one has picked it up yet, its a dead match if all is authentic in the images....thats the question?

I think this is the WORMWOOD as spoken about in Revelations and it appears to be coming our way.

Gee! if all is verified and correct he are in some real deep crap and so oblivious to it.OOOOHHHHH!   ahahahahah

The Kiuper Belt

 Note the Angle of Pluto angular orbit to that of the Suns equatorial orbit.
 

It appears Pluto was hit. 

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« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2008, 07:07:10 am »

Doing a countdown on the planets

When the planet first formed there was 12

           
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This great column of solar gases which was thus separated from the sun subsequently evolved   into the twelve planets of the solar system.     
But then it another section it only mentions 10 planets

           
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   The five inner and five outer  planets soon formed in miniature from the cooling and condensing nucleuses in the less massive and tapering ends of the gigantic gravity bulge which Angona had succeeded in detaching from the sun, while Saturn and Jupiter were formed from the more massive and bulging central portions. The powerful gravity pull of Jupiter and Saturn early captured most of the material stolen from Angona as the retrograde motion of certain of their satellites bears witness.
So there appears to be a mystery of the 2 missing planets.  What happened to the other two planets.

another fragment that might give us clues

           
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One of the moons of Jupiter is now approaching dangerously near the critical zone of tidal disruption and, within a few million years, will either be claimed by the planet or will undergo gravity-tidal disruption.   The fifth planet  of the solar system of long, long ago traversed an irregular orbit, periodically making closer and closer approach to Jupiter until it entered the critical zone of gravity-tidal disruption, was swiftly fragmentized, and   became the present-day cluster of asteroids. 
So there is one planet that was destroyed as in the above and by

           
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3,500,000,000 years ago the condensation nucleuses of the   other ten planets  were well formed 
Still trying to work out where the other 12 planets are from the beginning of this post.

But in the below there is a hint about what was captured from the Angona System.

       
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The powerful gravity pull of   Jupiter and Saturn early captured most of the material stolen from Angona  as   their satellites  the retrograde motion of certain of  bears witness. 
If we find out which satellites of Jupiter and Saturn are in retrograde motion, then we can find out the Angona Planetary tributaries or Angona/Nibiru Satellites that was captured.  It appears that Jupiter and Saturn captured much material.

So where are the other two planets??  referring to this fragment

           
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This great column of solar gases which was thus separated from the sun subsequently evolved into   the twelve planets of the solar system.     
I wonder what the other 2 planets went to.

Still looking into it.

The only thing I can think of is that the 3 tributaries captured by the Sun from Angona is included in the total count of the planets so that makes 10 planets + 3 tributaries from Angona which = 13 planets.  But then one planet, the 5th was destroyed so that makes 12 planets currently currently.  Thats one explanation. 

So perhaps they counted all the planets including the captured Angona planets and the Suns planets less the one that was destroyed.  Twelve

However, the Gas tongue that came out of the Sun due to disruption from the Angona system gave birth to the 10 planets.

Thats the only explanation I can find for the missing 2 planets.

But there are only 9 planets in this solar system including Pluto.  The UB did include Pluto as a planet.

But that makes sense because 1 out of 10 planets formed by the Gas bulge from the Sun was destroyed which gives us the current nine planets and in addition the 3 tributaries which Saturn and Jupiter captured which makes the 12 "into the twelve planets of the solar system.".

That makes sense in that train of thought but it has to be tested.

The rationale of the 12 planets seems to be confirmed here.

     
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   The five inner and five outer planets soon formed in miniature from the cooling and condensing nucleuses  in the less massive and tapering ends of the gigantic gravity bulge which Angona had succeeded in detaching from the sun,

(Then the connection to make the 12 planets)

while   Saturn and Jupiter  were formed from the more massive and bulging central portions. The powerful gravity pull of Jupiter and Saturn early captured most of   the material stolen from Angona  as the retrograde motion of   certain of their satellites bears witness  .
So it appears the count includes the satellite's of Angona and the Suns planets 13 planets -1(destroyed)= 12 planets 


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Great stuff, sevens!  You have really put a lot of work into figuring out the signs!   

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« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2008, 04:54:19 pm »

For Sure End Times and thanks for the support in your words.

I reckon this is it but we have to see if the Angona System rears it heads.  everything seems to coming to pass and all the signs are here in my view and confirmed in the UB and the books of religion.

We are in a for a big ride.

Thanks again, its a real pleasure to this for my brother!

Here is my latest post below the line
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Ok I'm trying to find which satellites of Jupiter is in a retrograde motion to that of Jupiter.

           
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Satellites S/2000 J2 - J10 have orbital radii about 300 times the radius of Jupiter and inclinations near   150 to 160 degrees , meaning that they are retrograde.  These objects join the   5 previously known retrograde satellites of Jupiter, bringing the total number of such objects to 14.    
Looks like there has been a number of collission of th Satelittes of Jupiter.

          http://www.ifa.hawaii.edu/faculty/jewitt/jmoons/jmoons.html         

           

Orbital information on the retrograde satellites of Jupiter.

         http://www.ifa.hawaii.edu/faculty/jewitt/jmoons/jm-table2.html         

Other information about the retrograde satellites of Jupiter.

       http://filer.case.edu/sjr16/advanced/jupiter_moons.html       

       
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Other Moons

There are 59 other moons that have been discovered around Jupiter. All of them are smaller than the Galilean Satellites, and most of them are the size of small asteroids. Most have highly elliptical orbits and are highly inclined relative to Jupiter's equator. These are all very strong indications that the moons are not native to Jupiter, but rather they were captured.   The largest piece of evidence for this is that over 80% of the non-Galilean Satellites orbit retrograde to Jupiter's spin.   
The highlight was very interesting!

Ok lets look at Saturn and its retrograde moon

 Planetary science:  Saturn's retrograde renegade

J. Brad Dalton1
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      http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v435/n7038/full/435033a.html     

     
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Data from the Cassini–Huygens mission provide convincing evidence that   the saturnian moon   Phoebe formed elsewhere  in the Solar System, and was only later captured by Saturn's gravitational pull.     
Again verifying the Urantia Book.

In this link contains a table is the planets in retrograde motion.  Looks there was few.

      http://www.krysstal.com/solarsys_saturn.html     

Looks like much rubbish was captured from the Angona System.

Phoebe is a retrograde satellite.

Here is an article on retrograde motion of the satellites of Saturn.

      http://www.gist.us/areas/basic/theorigin.htm   

 and here is some information and a map of the orbiting satellite's of Saturn.
      
 
   http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v412/n6843/fig_tab/412132a0_F1.html   

   
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The radius of the Hill sphere is about 65 million km, which is equal to 1,100 Saturn radii, or 0.43 AU (1 AU is the mean Earth–Sun distance). Saturn is at the centre and the white objects on inner, nearly circular, prograde orbits are the classical satellites: Titan, Hyperion and Iapetus. Prograde objects circle Saturn in the same way as its classical satellites (anticlockwise when viewed from above), whereas retrograde objects orbit in the opposite direction (clockwise). The 12 new satellites discovered by Gladman et al.1 can be grouped into families according to their orbital properties: cyan and green objects are the new prograde groups,   whereas pink and red dots (including previously known Phoebe) are all retrograde satellites.  Animations of these and all other Solar System satellites can be found at ref. 9.

M. ASBURY
Says it all  when you can read about it and see it.
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Thanks again end times and all blessings to you we are going to be really successful.


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« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2008, 04:58:38 pm »

The great indicator of the oncoming Angona System/Nibiru will be the Sun with increased sun spot activity and great ejection. This is due to the gravitational effect on our solar system. Another indicator is the general heating up of the planets.

I think I have to say is that governments never told but religion did and has always been telling us about this impending event.

The best thing to do is to stock up on food and water now. That's if you intend on staying on this planet during this time and also find a secure location.

In my country it would the middle of Australia/Sinim.

It would be good time to implement a survival plan and safe destination well beforehand.

The essentials would be:

Food
water
  plenty of toilet paper  (Grass and fern spores are very uncomfortable and not very effective).
  And don't forget the Can opener!!! 

ahahahahahah  I thought that was funny!

Also items for entertainment like games and things to entertain people and keep them stimulated we cant loose our sense of humor even though it will be trying.

Al though in saying this is another terrestrial escape plan and that plan was layed out by Jesus who is and will be literally our Saviour.

And that is rapture in the beforehand of the great visiting. All that is required in the success of rapture is simple faith even the smallest amount of faith and also keep the tenant of the 10 commandments as purposely sinful people will not be included in this ark.

Look someone can make a mistake and identify it and correct even if he is not totally successful in the correcting but is trying I think that would be OK because the motive is right, that's OK that's fine.

Now rapture or terrestrial escape is also backed in the Urantia Book and does apply to the Angona/Nibiru system which is also in the Bible as Wormwood in my view.

     
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  While there is this dematerializing technique for preparing the Adams for transit from Jerusem to the evolutionary worlds, there is no equivalent method for taking them away from such worlds unless   the entire planet is to be emptied, in which event emergency installation of the dematerialization technique is made for the entire salvable population. 

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  If some physical catastrophe should doom the planetary residence of an evolving race, the Melchizedeks and the Life Carriers would install the technique of dematerialization for all survivors, and by seraphic transport these beings would be carried away to the new world prepared for their continuing existence.  The evolution of a human race, once initiated on a world of space, must proceed quite independently of the physical survival of that planet, but during the evolutionary ages it is not otherwise intended that a Planetary Adam or Eve shall leave their chosen world.
So there is available a terrestial technique of escape "the entire planet is to be emptied, in which event emergency installation of the dematerialization technique is made for the entire salvable population."


Is the Planet and its population is threatened by some physical catastrophe then there is a rapture dematerialisation process (type of translation)   "the Melchizedeks and the Life Carriers would install the   technique of dematerialization  for all survivors" 

Now this dematerialisation technique is used if the planetary residence is threatened such like we have with the oncoming of the Angona System into our Solar System.   "If some physical catastrophe should doom the planetary residence of an evolving race"

So you can see there is a plan of preservation of the best of humankind. Thats why it is important that you keep on your best behavior with sincerity remember all souls are searched.

You know temptation is hard to resist  we all know what thats like, thats part of the reason I work in isolation so I keep on track and dont get diverted too much into to other things that may hold me back.  In this way the Angels and myself can focus on the task at hand without too many distractions and get the job done successfully.

Even though my biggest complaint is not having a compatible female partner in this adventure but even that can take me of the path to.  Man O man its a monks life that I never asked for.   ahahahahaha.

Gotta have a laugh at that one!  I never asked to be a virtual Monk it just happened that way! ahah  Oh well thats life.  I gotta say I miss that intimacy enveloped in love and affection and that spiritual support from your partner in the journey and all the many great conversations.  Maybe it was my fault because I'm to fussy I suppose! and I know what I like.

I miss that company greatly!

Anyway, back to business, so there you have it.  The impending situation all confirmed and in all the books and in prophecy an simple escape plan based on faith since our planet and its evolving race is potentially our threatened.

I think its looking good for us and I feel very confident that we all all make it.  No doubt about  it.

Well be fine because we have the truth behind giving us full backing in the adventure, the governments never gave this truth to us but the Father himself and through his Servants of all levels.

I am grateful for that!

I would also suggest if you have time to read the teachings of Jesus in the UB as that is a great guide and provide much in the way wisdom and knowledge.

You know I really thank the Ancient of Days and its agents for the UB.  What a fantastic book that just breaths life and it really is the book of the Tree of Life with all the books of religion that really leads to the ARK of mankind in these times of threatened evolution/existance!

isn't this great to be given the truth first hand and it came from religion at the right timing.  What a gift and full of love and salvation in literal terms.

Anyway I hope that was  a good study, it can be taken further being a thread of truth and discovery with enlightenment.  Its a very exciting time for us all and we will be successful utterly and led totally by the right hand of Jesus as he holds our hands on the path through the abyss.  I want no one here to miss the boat absolutely no one and we wont, simple as that!  done! NO WORRIES MATE!  Welll be right!

I say Action Stations red alert and so does the Father and Jesus. 

This is it!  YEA!

Decision time!

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« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2008, 05:51:16 pm »

Here is a post that might give us insight into the past that points to today.

Its about Sodom and Gomorrah and its relations to today.
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I wish there is some hard evidence of the city.

From what I understand it was destroyed by natural causes but with purpose.

All the options I reckon are possible definitely.

I was wondering have you ever seen Wyatts thoughts on Sodom?

He presents an interesting thought on the location of Sodom as well.


http://www.youtube.com/v/lgQHQ992Wnw&hl=en

I just had a look at the videos...compelling


and here is another video in the confirmation.

http://www.youtube.com/v/1dkoSJt6xfY&hl=en


here is the second


And here is another video that essentially proves Ron Wyatts work

http://www.youtube.com/v/FwTVFk1HK3Y&hl=en

Utterly Fascinating.

 
We know what the Bible says but Here UB word search on Sodom

  UB Link

And here are a fragment

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# It was following this real and public surrender of his personal ambitions in behalf of the larger plans of Melchizedek that the three celestial beings appeared to him on the plains of Mamre. This was an appearance of fact, notwithstanding its association with the subsequently fabricated narratives relating to the natural destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. And these legends of the happenings of those days indicate how retarded were the morals and ethics of even so recent a time.

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# line 146: It was shortly after the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah that Machiventa decided to end his emergency bestowal on Urantia.

So the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah was at the time of Melchizedek and the Cities were destroyed in a Naturally process which I believe by fire and brimstone which can come from, I suppose a few natural sources.

Like from the fall out of Volcanic action or by the fall out of a asteroid perhaps.  I sometime wonder whether there was submergence involved thus the dead sea involved coupled with Volcanic action.

Anyway I thought that was an interesting study.

And it was at the time of Melchizedek, its funny I see a type in that for today.

For example with the arrival of Wormwood/The Angona System/Nibiru to this solar system and the mass destruction it will cause to the Babylon system.  Its the same type we have today.

Just my thoughts.

But don't you find this interesting in our times that all is being revealed before the big disaster, they say that Wormwood/The Angona System/Nibiru will start being noticeable with the human eye from the South pole in 2 years time and which will eventually be visible to all man on the planet, the great witness!

Like in the days of Melchizedek around the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah! Like we have today.

Thank the great Father for rapture, the Jesus escape plan because I don't want to be around this planet when it hits the fan! Because it will be just bas news on every level.

Nope, no way do I want to remain here, its not worth it!

The planet is set for destruction.

Government should be storing food right now for all but they will not and they will only save themselves and the system and also note the Doomsday seed bank already the governments are planning to save there own arses and the rich.
But Jesus has a plan for everyone with faith and no one is excluded. Thank you Lord!

See how Jesus is our great Saviour in this situation!

Praise the Lord for that!

So I say get ready!  NOW,  EVERYONE not matter of what doctrine or faith system.  This rapture for the individual is based on simple faith and trust in the Lord, it has nothing to do with which church or doctrine you ascribe to.  Its plainly between the Soul of the individual and the Father.  thats it!  Faith like a child.

And the smallest flicker of faith is counted for righteousness!  So its just faith and time to warn others.

I have already told my family and they think I'm a fool and lost my marbles, well least I loose my marbles for the right cause of of our Great friend and Saviour Jesus.  I can just read there thoughts.  ahahahahahahahah  Oh well!

So true, it will be like in the days of Noah!

In this fragment I see much

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It was shortly after the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah that Machiventa decided to end his emergency bestowal on Urantia. Melchizedek's decision to terminate his sojourn in the flesh was influenced by numerous conditions, chief of which was the growing tendency of the surrounding tribes, and even of his immediate associates, to regard him as a demigod, to look upon him as a supernatural being, which indeed he was; but they were beginning to reverence him unduly and with a highly superstitious fear.

So it was after the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah that the people thought that Melchizedek was a God and somehow responsible for this destruction where suddenly he was revered as a GOD.  I think its safe to assume that.

Again it seems to have all the types of today as see in the impending disaster for this planet!

Thats why it is now that all is being revealed whether people like it or not!  Because the truth as in this almighty journey to the ancient places and now the prospect of Wormwood/The Angona System/Nibiru but the truth will come first before anything!

The truth and Jesus with the purpose of rapture and then the destruction follows.



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I have already told my family and they think I'm a fool and lost my marbles, well least I loose my marbles for the right cause of of our Great friend and Saviour Jesus.  I can just read there thoughts.  ahahahahahahahah  Oh well!

That's alright, sevens, if one gets right with Jesus (meaning not inventing anything to suit one's own purposes), they truly don't need anyone else.  So, the challenge for you is to get right with Jesus!  He is waiting for you to turn away from these fantasies and turn back towards him. 
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« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2008, 11:58:19 pm »

I do like Ron Wyatt, though, there is a man who was right with Jesus, God bless his soul. 
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« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2008, 01:43:35 am »

Well as far as I'm concerned my research over the years has led me to what approaching through the ancient places and they have been revealed and I feel I am right with Jesus.

Are you?  How do you know you are right with Jesus?  What is the witness?  Can I see the evidence please!

I'm not trying to invent anything.  I'm just looking into the scriptures in my focalisation and drawing out the truth.

Jesus is my friend and he looks after and he has led me to the discoveries of the first and beginning cities of the ancients and its in the bible and all the other books.

I was wondering what religion are you?

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« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2008, 01:45:58 am »

Ron Wyatt was a great man and discoverer bless his soul to.

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« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2008, 06:33:19 am »

Hi Im looking for references of Wormwood in the bible and seeing if there is any connection to Nibiru/The Angona System/planetX in characteristics.

In the following are various fragments out of the Bible containing wormwood.

     
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AMOS
CHAPTER 5
6 Seek the Lord, and ye shall live; lest he break out like fire in the house of Joseph, and devour it, and there be none to quench it in Beth-el.

7 Ye who turn judgment to   wormwood  , and leave off righteousness in the earth,

 
    8 Seek him that maketh   the seven stars  and Orion, and turneth the shadow of death into the morning, and maketh the day dark with night:  that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: The Lord is his name:

  9 That strengtheneth the spoiled against the strong, so that the spoiled shall come against the fortress.

  10 They hate him that rebuketh in the gate  , and they abhor him that   speaketh uprightly. 
The above piece appears to have all the components of the current journey to the ancient places where it ends at the doorstep of Wormwood in destination.  Everything is there in the journey and expressed in metaphor of the journey and the components and the purpose.  Wormwood seems to attached to judgement and infers that the word of the Lord goes out before the approach.

and here is another

       
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DEUTERONOMY
CHAPTER 29

18 Lest there should be among you man, or woman, or family, or tribe, whose heart turneth away this day from the Lord our God, to go and serve the gods of these nations;   lest there should be among you a root that beareth gall and   wormwood; 
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DEUTERONOMY
CHAPTER 29

14 I have seen also in the prophets of Jerusalem an horrible thing: they commit adultery, and walk in lies: they strengthen also the hands of evildoers, that none doth return from his wickedness:   they are all of them unto me as Sodom, and the inhabitants thereof as Gomorrah. 

  15 Therefore thus saith the Lord of hosts concerning the prophets;   Behold, I will feed them with wormwood, and make them drink the water of gall:  for from the prophets of Jerusalem is profaneness gone forth into all the land.

  16 Thus saith the Lord of hosts, Hearken not unto the words of the prophets that prophesy unto you: they make you vain:   they speak a vision of their own heart , and not out of the mouth of the Lord.
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THE PROVERBS
CHAPTER 5
  4 But her end is bitter as   wormwood,  sharp as a two edged sword.
 
  5 Her feet go down to death; her steps take hold on hell.

  6 Lest thou shouldest ponder the path of life, her ways are moveable, that thou canst not know them.

    7 Hear me now therefore, O ye children, and depart not from the words of my mouth
   
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DEUTERONOMY
CHAPTER 29
17 And ye have seen their abominations, and their idols, wood and stone, silver and gold, which were among them:)

  18   Lest there should be among you man, or woman, or family, or tribe, whose heart turneth away this day from the Lord our God, to go and serve the gods of these nations; lest there should be among you a root that beareth gall and   wormwood;   

  19 And it come to pass, when he heareth the words of this curse, that he bless himself in his heart, saying, I shall have peace, though I walk in the imagination of mine heart, to add drunkenness to thirst:
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13 He hath caused the arrows of his quiver to enter into my reins.

  14 I was a aderision to all my people; and their song all the day.

    15 He hath filled me with bitterness, he hath made me drunken with   wormwood.   

  16 He hath also broken my teeth with gravel stones, he hath covered me with ashes.

  17 And thou hast removed my soul far off from peace: I forgat prosperity.

  18 And I said, My strength and my hope is perished from the Lord:

    19 Remembering mine affliction and my misery,   the wormwood   and the gall.
     
and lastly

The following sounds like the passage of Wormwood the brown dwarf and a progression of all the things that will happen during its passage!

The first to the 6th angels could be the progression of the disasters of Wormwood/The Angona System.

     
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7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.

  8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;

  9 And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.

  10 And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;

    11 And the name of the star is called   Wormwood:  and the third part of the waters became     wormwood;   and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter. 

  12 And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.

  13 And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!

To me, it describes the passage of Wormwood/The Angona System/PlanetX/Nibiru is very bitter and hard thing to swallow for man in its passage.

In all this experience it seems that the accompanying debris of Wormwood my enter the earth and cause all kinds of damage not to mention earthquakes.  Apparently it appears to get very hot on the planet.  This fall out much make the waters bitter and undrinkable.

This one seems to be straight forward

  7 Ye who turn judgment to   wormwood  , and leave off righteousness in the earth,

Then the following gives you advise before judgement.

8 Seek him that maketh   the seven stars  and Orion, and turneth the shadow of death into the morning, and maketh the day dark with night:  that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: The Lord is his name:

and this one about the gates and of what is spoke!  Is that the gates that lead to the cities in the literal sense as we have we have the ancient cities.

  10 They hate him that rebuketh in the gate  , and they abhor him that   speaketh uprightly.

and then in rev, the definition of wormwood.  What is Wormwood that responsible for all this chaos on earth.

11 And the name of the star is called   Wormwood:  and the third part of the waters became     wormwood;   and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.

Apparently Wormwood will be seen in the skies in 2 years time but it will be like in the days of Noah.  Personally I expect rapture of the first fruits before Wormwood is seen.  It would be part of the realisation and the refining.

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« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2008, 02:16:25 am »

Hi

Here is some fragments from the Kolbrin bible written by the Egyptians after the time of Moses. Below is an example of how these scripts also look to PlanetX/The destroyer as a time of change

   
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Destroyer references from the Kolbrin Bible
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Manuscripts 3:4 When blood drops upon the Earth,   the Destroyer will appear  , and mountains will open up and belch forth fire and ashes. Trees will be destroyed and all living things engulfed. Waters will be swallowed up by the land, and seas will boil.

Manuscripts 3:5 The Heavens will burn brightly and redly; there will be a copper hue over the face of the land, ‘followed by a day of darkness. A new moon will appear and break up and fall.

Manuscripts 3:6 The people will scatter in madness.   They will hear the trumpet and battlecry of the Destroyer and   will seek refuge within dens in the Earth.    Terror will eat away their hearts, and their courage will flow from them like water from a broken pitcher. They will be eaten u in the flames of wrath and consumed by the breath of the Destroyer.

Manuscripts 3:10     In those days, men will have the Great Book before them; wisdom will be revealed; the few will be gathered for the stand; it is the hour of trial.  The dauntless ones will survive; the stouthearted will not go down to destruction.
This new book that reveals everything in this time is the urantia Book and everything in the above verse is exactly about this journey!

Even the Egyptians saw this time.

Undoubtedly

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« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2008, 12:52:46 am »

Oi!

Is anyone around to discuss the truth of Wormwood or is to going to be an empty ark.

Oi Calvin whats happening!

Oi 12 Apostles whats going on.

I hope you not all in the bunkers already.

Oi we got work to do!  ahahahahahah!

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