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dhill757

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   posted 07-21-2004 09:51 PM                       
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Interesting references, Jonas, and I'm glad you told me that you don't think Plato made it all up. But it still does not prove a Sea People link to Atlantis. It proves that their foes were very frightened of the Sea People, that in itself does not prove they were Atlantis. Many civilizations were wiped out in ancient times, I suppose you could find similar accounts of the terror inflicted by the Romans, the Persians, or Alexander the Great when they were building their empires from the people they conquered. That was simply how they did things back then. Coincidence? Maybe a little more than you care to admit.
"An island larger than Libya and Asia combined."

Coastline. Well, perhaps, but the area still fits better in the Atlantic than the eastern Mediterranean. You mentioned the geography matches Turkey better than the coastlines bordering the Atlantic. It certainly doesn't when it comes to the Atlantic itself:

"and from these you might pass to the whole of the opposite continent which surrounded
the true ocean; for this sea which is within the Straits of Heracles is only a harbour, having a narrow entrance, but that other is a real sea, and the surrounding land may be most truly called a boundless continent."

Saying that the Mediterranean was the true ocean implies that the Greeks knew nothing about the Atlantic. Actually they, not the Romans, were the ones to probably name the Atlantic.

There seems to be a lot of skimming over the most vital points of the account, geography, the time it existed in, the type of civilization they had, the physical description of the island itself, all to get to the Sea People.

Atlantis was supposed to have been destroyed by flooding and earthquakes. Where is the earthquake, or has it become a volcano, Santorini again? The only massive disaster in this time is Santorini.

Then, there is still the question of the location. If you're going to translate all the Egyptian names back into their Greek again, the one name that still remains the sticking point is "Atlantis" or "Atlantic." I suppose the Atlantic references were added later, like Robert Sarmast, right?

your quote:

"Remember that the Egyptian priest mentioned mythical kings from the time of Theseus in
connection to the war. This is definitely not 9000 years before Solon."

The reference to Theseus could also simply be because it is the earliest age that the Greeks could remember. In which case, they wouldn't know or care what the year was, only that it was the start of their history.

There are superficial similarities when you compare the Sea People with Atlantis. There are the same ones, perhaps even better ones if you compare the Minoan culture with Atlantis, and, for whatever reason, people aren't doing that anymore.



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