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If Hillary doesn't get the nomination, will she run as an independent?

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Rage Against the Machine
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« on: March 12, 2008, 04:25:19 pm »

Opinions..?
I'd love to hear them. Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2008, 05:08:41 pm »

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« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2008, 05:25:02 pm »

I'm guessing the answer to that would be a big fat:

YES!!! 

You have to remember that "Hillary" is only in it for herself.  The Clintons never cared about the party, if they had been better leaders, they wouldn't have lost both houses of Congress while they were in power.

Plus, "Hillary" so hates Obama and so adores her friend, John McCain, she will do whatever she needs to to insure his candidacy.

If she can't have it, no one will!  This was supposed to be her "turn," and to hell with anyone else who gets it if it isn't her, and her party as well!

And there are enough misguided followers of hers who simply want to get a woman in there (no matter what she stands for) that they could care less about the principles that the party follows.
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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2008, 05:49:50 pm »

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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2008, 10:56:54 pm »

I see this situation as tailor made for Mr. John McCain!  You see, Hillary gets beat by this Obama fellow, then the Clintons can't take it, so they decide to run themselves as a third candidate.

Just when it looks like everything falls into place for those Demos, there they go snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory. If ever there was a year for the Demos it would be this one!  But I see it shaping up nicely for a McCain presidency, yep, I am sure that President McCain is going to come out pretty good through all this! 
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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2008, 02:36:20 am »

Maybe this is a start towards changing her tune..?

Clinton apologizes to black voters

By DEVLIN BARRETT, Associated Press Writer
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WASHINGTON - Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton did something Wednesday night that she almost never does. She apologized. And once she started, she didn't seem able to stop.



 
The New York senator, who is in a tight race with Illinois Sen. Barack Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination, struck several sorry notes at an evening forum sponsored by the National Newspaper Publishers Association, a group of more than 200 black community newspapers across the country.

Her biggest apology came in response to a question about comments by her husband, Bill Clinton, after the South Carolina primary, which Obama won handily. Bill Clinton said Jesse Jackson also won South Carolina when he ran for president in 1984 and 1988, a comment many viewed as belittling Obama's success.

"I want to put that in context. You know I am sorry if anyone was offended. It was certainly not meant in any way to be offensive," Hillary Clinton said. "We can be proud of both Jesse Jackson and Senator Obama."

"Anyone who has followed my husband's public life or my public life know very well where we have stood and what we have stood for and who we have stood with," she said, acknowledging that whoever wins the nomination will have to heal the wounds of a bruising, historic contest.

"Once one of us has the nomination there will be a great effort to unify the Democratic party and we will do so, because, remember I have a lot of supporters who have voted for me in very large numbers and I would expect them to support Senator Obama if he were the nominee," she said.

The Clintons long have enjoyed overwhelming support from black voters, but that has been eclipsed during the primaries and caucuses by enthusiasm and support for Obama, who has pulled huge margins among black voters. Arguments over the role of race and gender have flared up repeatedly throughout the contest between Obama, who would be the nation's first black president, and Clinton, who would be its first female one.

Earlier in the day, Hillary Clinton supporter and fundraiser Geraldine Ferraro gave up her honorary position with Clinton's campaign after she said in an interview last week that Obama would not have made it this far if he were white. Obama said Ferraro's remarks were "ridiculous" and "wrong-headed."

Of Ferraro's comment, Hillary Clinton told her audience: "I certainly do repudiate it and I regret deeply that it was said. Obviously she doesn't speak for the campaign, she doesn't speak for any of my positions, and she has resigned from being a member of my very large finance committee."

As first lady and senator, Clinton rarely cedes an inch to her critics. On the issue of her vote to authorize the Iraq war, for instance, she steadfastly has refused to apologize, coming close by saying she regrets it, despite calls from many anti-war voters in the party to make a more explicit mea culpa.

Her third conciliatory statement of the evening was more in keeping with that fighting stance.

Asked about the government's efforts in the Gulf States after Hurricane Katrina, Hillary Clinton turned an apology into a criticism of President Bush, who happened to be speaking at a Republican event in another room at the same hotel.

"I've said it publicly, and I say it privately: I apologize, and I am embarrassed that our government so mistreated our fellow citizens ... It was a national disgrace," she said.
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« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2008, 02:37:37 am »

That doesn't seem to indicate she's planning a third party run, I hope anyway.
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« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2008, 05:53:37 am »

It also sounds like she's setting herself up for V.P.
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« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2008, 12:02:36 pm »

I know someone at work who works for the Clinton campaign and is privvy to a lot of the inside info on it.  He said last week prior to ghe Ohio primary that a billionaire that Hillary knew was inclined to support her as a third party candidate if she didn't get the Democratic nominee.  They were so certain they were going to lose, they were already making plans as to whether or how they should continue!

Would she do it?  Who knows.
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« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2008, 04:06:42 pm »

I don't know why Hillary is so determined to bring the party down if she can't win.  Does she really want a McCain presidency?
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« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2008, 02:42:34 am »

If she can't get it the Bilderber4gers got McCain and Obama to do their bidding.

The Bilderbergers won't allow her to detract from their other candidates.
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