Crop Circles & their Geometric Formations

[Cynthia]

Maybe aliens don't want out attention, maybe crop circles were the way they communicated with the ancients.  The Nazca lines certainly look like ancient man's attempt to communicate with people above.  Maybe they are just returning to communicate as they did in days of old.

[Robert0326]

If they don't want our attention then why bother doing it at all?  Just because no one see's the circle being made everyone automatically assumes aliens made them. It's amazing that in the 21 st. century people are still that gullible. No offense to you Cynthia. 

[Cynthia]

The symbols are a form of communication - not all of them, some are obviously fakes - but cultures have long communicated with one another with the use of symbols as opposed to actual langauge.

[Robert0326]

 As for the Nazca lines I believe that the alien theory is proposed mainly because some people find it difficult to believe that a race of "primitive Indians" could have had the intelligence to conceive of such a project, much less the technology to bring the concept to fruition. The evidence points elsewhere, however. The Aztecs, the Toltecs, the Inca, the Maya, etc., are proof enough that the Nazca did not need extraterrestrial help to create their art gallery in the desert. The Nazca line were more than likely meant for religious proposes.  Now as for the crop circles... 

Some believe that the crop designs are messages from alien spacecraft. Some maintain that the aliens are trying to communicate with us using ancient Sumerian symbols or symbolic representations of alien DNA. Those who engage in such serious study and theorizing about crop circles are known as cerealogists (after Ceres, the Roman goddess of agriculture and fertility) or croppies.

Even scientifically minded people have been brought into this fray. They have wisely avoided the thesis that aliens have been carving out messages in crop fields. But they have stretched their imaginations to come up with theories of vortexes, ball lightning, plasma, and other less occult explanations involving natural forces such as wind, heat, or animals.  Some think the designs are clearly the work of the U.S. Air Force and the RAF using a "military microwave cannon, piloted by computer," and a design book.* However, when looking for an explanation of weird things we should never omit from our checklist the possibility that the phenomenon we are studying is a hoax.

Had crop circles existed in the thirteenth century, they would have been attributed to Satan, who was said to have been responsible for many weird happenings as well as for many unweird things, such as the construction of Stonehenge and Hadrian's wall between England and Scotland. It was believed by many that the ancients could not possibly have accomplished such feats on their own. Today, Satan's power as an explanation for weird or wondrous things has been usurped by aliens.

[Lakendrick Stanton]

As for the Nazca lines I believe that the alien theory is proposed mainly because some people find it difficult to believe that a race of "primitive Indians" could have had the intelligence to conceive of such a project, much less the technology to bring the concept to fruition.

Hardly. It isn't that people believe that the lines could hardly be the work of the natives that live there, in fact I have never heard that.  The reason that the alien theory even came about is that the lines are so huge that they cannot even be fully visible from the air. In fact, their breadth wasn't even discovered until we invented the technology to fly.

Even scientifically minded people have been brought into this fray. They have wisely avoided the thesis that aliens have been carving out messages in crop fields. But they have stretched their imaginations to come up with theories of vortexes, ball lightning, plasma, and other less occult explanations involving natural forces such as wind, heat, or animals. 

Scientifically minded "people" haven't bought into these theories at all.  Fringe conspiracy theorists may well have, but archaeologists, anthropologists ad geologists have all settled on a single explanation for the lines:  that they map areas where water might be found in the harsh Peruvian climate. 

Had crop circles existed in the thirteenth century, they would have been attributed to Satan, who was said to have been responsible for many weird happenings as well as for many unweird things, such as the construction of Stonehenge and Hadrian's wall between England and Scotland.

There has always been some doubt as to the origins of Stonehenge, in fact, we still don't know the full truth of it, but it is a bit ridiculous to place Hadrian's Wall in the same category.  There was never a time when the Brits forgot the Romans (who built the wall) and the wall has divided sections of England for two thousand years.

[Robert0326]

Maria Reiche developed the theory that the ancient Peruvians drew the lines to please the gods and secure their good will. She called the desert an astronomical calendar to remind the gods that the desert was dry and needed water; that crops needed blessings; that the seas needed fish. There are theories that the figures correspond to constellations and the annual change of the seasons. Other theories contend that the figures represent a pantheon of gods and goddesses and were the site of religious ceremonies.  So there is not just one solitary theory about the lines.


And as I posted in the beginning, if the crop circles were made by aliens; why do in the middle of the night if they wanted to send us a message or get our attention?  Are they afraid that the farmers would get mad at them and have them arrested?  It would be completely retarded to travel millions of light years to "tag" some poor farmers field like a gang-banger would "tag" a concrete wall in the middle of the night.

[Cynthia]

And as I posted in the beginning, if the crop circles were made by aliens; why do in the middle of the night if they wanted to send us a message or get our attention?  Are they afraid that the farmers would get mad at them and have them arrested?  It would be completely retarded to travel millions of light years to "tag" some poor farmers field like a gang-banger would "tag" a concrete wall in the middle of the night.

I surmised that the circles are a form of communication.  Truth is, no one knows for sure, and yet there have been instances where strange craft have been seen at night, only to have the circles seen in the morning.  As for it being "retarded" to "tag" some farmer's field in the middle of the night, well, you can only make that statement if you know what their motives are. Maybe that was a form of communication when they visited years ago and don't see any reason to communicate any differently now.

[Keith Ranville]

And as I posted in the beginning, if the crop circles were made by aliens; why do in the middle of the night if they wanted to send us a message or get our attention?  Are they afraid that the farmers would get mad at them and have them arrested?  It would be completely retarded to travel millions of light years to "tag" some poor farmers field like a gang-banger would "tag" a concrete wall in the middle of the night.

Most likely crop circles are done at night maybe its easier to scribe the lazer energy beam in darkness. After all the sun never goes off its shining 24-7. The maybe the sun interacts withl the lazer's delicacy the lazer and the sun at once would probably destroy the crop in the crop circle all together? much of the crop circles are curved bent unlike snapped bent?     

[Maelstrom]

Has Keith, or anyone, ever seen any of these crop cirlces in person? 

[Keith Ranville]

Just through documentaries on the subject.. that's all?

[Maelstrom]

The reason I asked is personally I am open to them being made by UFOs, but I think it would be great to examine some of them in person?

No doubt some are hoaxes, while others are unexplained.

[Robert0326]

They are made at night because the people making them don't want to be arrested for tresspassing.  It is natural for people to assume that if they can't explain them then the obvious explaination is 'the aliens made them!'

[Cynthia]

Well, there you are wrong, Robert, as there is actual eyewitness testimony that crop cirlces and UFOs have a strong affiliation (and that isn't to say that there aren't some hoaxers out there, cause there are):

'Alien' takes blame for crop circles
Published Date: 24 March 2009
A dog walker claimed she met a man from another planet who said aliens were behind crop circles, military UFO files show.
The anonymous woman telephoned RAF Wattisham in Suffolk in a state of distress to describe her out-of-this-world encounter the previous night.

The woman told the operator at the base that the incident happened as she was walking her dog on a sports field close to her home near Norwich in 1989. She was approached by a man with a "Scandinavian-type accent" who was dressed in a light brown garment like a flying suit.




The full article contains 105 words and appears in Edinburgh Evening News newspaper.Page 1 of 1

Last Updated: 24 March 2009 10:48 AM
Source: Edinburgh Evening News
Location: Edinburgh

http://news.scotsman.com/world/39Alien39-takes-blame-for-crop.5101517.jp

[Cynthia]

YouTube - UFO Forming Crop Circles

[Cynthia]

'A 21 year old male student, during a crop circle vigil, is asleep in his tent overlooking the wheat fields of Oliver's Castle, when suddenly he is awoken by a humming sound.
He peers sleepily out of his tent flap and sees lights flying across the field below. He grabs his camcorder and shoots this extraordinary film of small UFOs, whilst in the space of a few seconds, a breathtaking pattern unfolds in the cornfield beneath them.'

 

This is the formation, dubbed 'The Snowflake' by researchers.

http://www.patrickwilson.com/Cropcir.html