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« Reply #30 on: March 04, 2008, 10:00:51 pm »

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So, when are we going to solve this conspiracy? After all it's been five years now. With all the information you guys keep posting it seems like this is a cut and dried affair. What's a guy to do with all this hot ''new'' information.

Let me guess. The entire United States government is in cahoots with this one so the president is paying everyone to keep quiet? I almost forgot the Bilderbergers. By the way topic starter, some of your pictures are blurry. However, good photoshop on the president with the book upside down.

Yet another college project. To elicit a response no doubt. zzzzzz

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« Reply #31 on: March 04, 2008, 10:01:59 pm »

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So, when are we going to solve this conspiracy? After all it's been five years now. With all the information you guys keep posting it seems like this is a cut and dried affair. What's a guy to do with all this hot ''new'' information.

In the last election the Democrats won a majority. Just what the Bilderbergers didn't want.

Let me guess. The entire United States government is in cahoots with this one so the president is paying everyone to keep quiet? I almost forgot the Bilderbergers. By the way topic starter, some of your pictures are blurry. However, good photoshop on the president with the book upside down.

Many politicians have oil stocks and the dividends have been massive the past 5 years.

Yet another college project. To elicit a response no doubt. zzzzzz

Yeah sounds like someone's been listening to a little too much conservative {Bilderberger} radio.

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« Reply #32 on: March 04, 2008, 10:02:57 pm »

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I vaguely remember seeing some confusion over that book and suspect the dust jacket may have been put on upside down as a classroom prank of an ominous and unfortunate timing.
Notice the President and the girl appear to be on the same page and you could be right about the photoshop.
Pathetic either way.
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This is the original picture as it appeared on the AP:

http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/bushbook.asp
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Wow, it didn't even occur to me that someone might have doctored the photo, I actually wasn't sure if it was a trick or how well he could read. Oh, well, I stand corrected.

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Originally posted by Andrew Waters:
So, when are we going to solve this conspiracy? After all it's been five years now. With all the information you guys keep posting it seems like this is a cut and dried affair. What's a guy to do with all this hot ''new'' information.

Let me guess. The entire United States government is in cahoots with this one so the president is paying everyone to keep quiet? I almost forgot the Bilderbergers. By the way topic starter, some of your pictures are blurry. However, good photoshop on the president with the book upside down.

Yet another college project. To elicit a response no doubt. zzzzzz
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Hey, I totally disagree that this is a government-bashing project. The goal is to sort through the truth on 9/11, if it leads to the government, fine, if it doesn't, fine, too. So far, the information collected seems to support the official version of things, but that doesn't vindicate the government in any way. The point is, they were warned, at least three times, prior to 9/11, that there was an attack coming. I would also like to say that, while there is no proof so far that the government "hit" itself, blind faith in this government is a bad idea. They have proven to be, at best, incompetent, at worst, devious and evil, that's why we shouldn't put anything past them.
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« Reply #35 on: March 04, 2008, 10:06:21 pm »

Here are the Bush 9/11 reading pics, I'm sure we can all agree that he looks very concerned:





This last one is clearly doctored, too. There are really some nasty people out there, doctoring these pix:
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« Reply #36 on: March 04, 2008, 10:07:46 pm »

During it's time, the World Trade Center buildings were at first considered an eyesore in the New York skyline - too obtrusive. The strange thing, everyone all seems to miss them now (and all the people that were lost that day). They started building the Freedom Center on the old Ground Zero site today, I doubt it will be as impressive as the towers were:



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« Reply #37 on: March 04, 2008, 10:09:16 pm »

Flight 93 was the fourth jetliner, and it crashed in Pennsylvania. To my knowledge, there are no actual pictures of the plane crashing, so all we have to study are it's debris:

Here is the cloud from the plane crashing:







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« Reply #39 on: March 04, 2008, 10:10:54 pm »

The accepted 9/11 timeline:

September 11: Chronology of terror
September 12, 2001 Posted: 12:27 PM EDT (1627 GMT)


8:45 a.m. (all times are EDT): A hijacked passenger jet, American Airlines Flight 11 out of Boston, Massachusetts, crashes into the north tower of the World Trade Center, tearing a gaping hole in the building and setting it afire.


Plane hits WTC.
9:03 a.m.: A second hijacked airliner, United Airlines Flight 175 from Boston, crashes into the south tower of the World Trade Center and explodes. Both buildings are burning.

9:17 a.m.: The Federal Aviation Administration shuts down all New York City area airports.

9:21 a.m.: The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey orders all bridges and tunnels in the New York area closed.

9:30 a.m.: President Bush, speaking in Sarasota, Florida, says the country has suffered an "apparent terrorist attack."

9:40 a.m.: The FAA halts all flight operations at U.S. airports, the first time in U.S. history that air traffic nationwide has been halted.

9:43 a.m.: American Airlines Flight 77 crashes into the Pentagon, sending up a huge plume of smoke. Evacuation begins immediately.

9:45 a.m.: The White House evacuates.

9:57 a.m.: Bush departs from Florida.

10:05 a.m.: The south tower of the World Trade Center collapses, plummeting into the streets below. A massive cloud of dust and debris forms and slowly drifts away from the building.


Pentagon burns.
10:08 a.m.: Secret Service agents armed with automatic rifles are deployed into Lafayette Park across from the White House.

10:10 a.m.: A portion of the Pentagon collapses.

10:10 a.m.: United Airlines Flight 93, also hijacked, crashes in Somerset County, Pennsylvania, southeast of Pittsburgh.

10:13 a.m.: The United Nations building evacuates, including 4,700 people from the headquarters building and 7,000 total from UNICEF and U.N. development programs.

10:22 a.m.: In Washington, the State and Justice departments are evacuated, along with the World Bank.

10:24 a.m.: The FAA reports that all inbound transatlantic aircraft flying into the United States are being diverted to Canada.


Pennsylvania crash scene
10:28 a.m.: The World Trade Center's north tower collapses from the top down as if it were being peeled apart, releasing a tremendous cloud of debris and smoke.

10:45 a.m.: All federal office buildings in Washington are evacuated.

10.46 a.m.: U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell cuts short his trip to Latin America to return to the United States.


First tower falls.
10.48 a.m.: Police confirm the plane crash in Pennsylvania.

10:53 a.m.: New York's primary elections, scheduled for Tuesday, are postponed.

10:54 a.m.: Israel evacuates all diplomatic missions.

10:57 a.m.: New York Gov. George Pataki says all state government offices are closed.

11:02 a.m.: New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani urges New Yorkers to stay at home and orders an evacuation of the area south of Canal Street.

11:16 a.m.: CNN reports that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is preparing emergency-response teams in a precautionary move.

11:18 a.m.: American Airlines reports it has lost two aircraft. American Flight 11, a Boeing 767 flying from Boston to Los Angeles, had 81 passengers and 11 crew aboard. Flight 77, a Boeing 757 en route from Washington's Dulles International Airport to Los Angeles, had 58 passengers and six crew members aboard. Flight 11 slammed into the north tower of the World Trade Center. Flight 77 hit the Pentagon.

11:26 a.m.: United Airlines reports that United Flight 93, en route from Newark, New Jersey, to San Francisco, California, has crashed in Pennsylvania. The airline also says that it is "deeply concerned" about United Flight 175.

11:59 a.m.: United Airlines confirms that Flight 175, from Boston to Los Angeles, has crashed with 56 passengers and nine crew members aboard. It hit the World Trade Center's south tower.

12:04 p.m.: Los Angeles International Airport, the destination of three of the crashed airplanes, is evacuated.

12:15 p.m: San Francisco International Airport is evacuated and shut down. The airport was the destination of United Airlines Flight 93, which crashed in Pennsylvania.


Second tower falls.
12:15 p.m.: The Immigration and Naturalization Service says U.S. borders with Canada and Mexico are on the highest state of alert, but no decision has been made about closing borders.

12:30 p.m.: The FAA says 50 flights are in U.S. airspace, but none are reporting any problems.

1:04 p.m.: Bush, speaking from Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana, says that all appropriate security measures are being taken, including putting the U.S. military on high alert worldwide. He asks for prayers for those killed or wounded in the attacks and says, "Make no mistake, the United States will hunt down and punish those responsible for these cowardly acts."

1:27 p.m.: A state of emergency is declared by the city of Washington.

1:44 p.m.: The Pentagon says five warships and two aircraft carriers will leave the U.S. Naval Station in Norfolk, Virginia, to protect the East Coast from further attack and to reduce the number of ships in port. The two carriers, the USS George Washington and the USS John F. Kennedy, are headed for the New York coast. The other ships headed to sea are frigates and guided missile destroyers capable of shooting down aircraft.

1:48 p.m.: Bush leaves Barksdale Air Force Base aboard Air Force One and flies to an Air Force base in Nebraska.


Bush: "Attacks cowardly."
2 p.m.: Senior FBI sources tell CNN they are working on the assumption that the four airplanes that crashed were hijacked as part of a terrorist attack.

2:30 p.m.: The FAA announces there will be no U.S. commercial air traffic until noon EDT Wednesday at the earliest.

2:49 p.m.: At a news conference, Giuliani says that subway and bus service are partially restored in New York City. Asked about the number of people killed, Giuliani says, "I don't think we want to speculate about that -- more than any of us can bear."

3:55 p.m.: Karen Hughes, a White House counselor, says the president is at an undisclosed location, later revealed to be Offutt Air Force Base in Nebraska, and is conducting a National Security Council meeting by phone. Vice President Dick Cheney and National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice are in a secure facility at the White House. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is at the Pentagon.

3:55 p.m.: Giuliani now says the number of critically injured in New York City is up to 200 with 2,100 total injuries reported.

4 p.m: CNN National Security Correspondent David Ensor reports that U.S. officials say there are "good indications" that Saudi militant Osama bin Laden, suspected of coordinating the bombings of two U.S. embassies in 1998, is involved in the attacks, based on "new and specific" information developed since the attacks.

4:06 p.m.: California Gov. Gray Davis dispatches urban search-and-rescue teams to New York.

4:10 p.m.: Building 7 of the World Trade Center complex is reported on fire.


New York Mayor Giuliani
4:20 p.m.: U.S. Sen. Bob Graham, D-Florida, chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, says he was "not surprised there was an attack (but) was surprised at the specificity." He says he was "shocked at what actually happened -- the extent of it."

4:25 p.m.: The American Stock Exchange, the Nasdaq and the New York Stock Exchange say they will remain closed Wednesday.

4:30 p.m.: The president leaves Offutt Air Force Base in Nebraska aboard Air Force One to return to Washington.

5:15 p.m.: CNN Military Affairs Correspondent Jamie McIntyre reports fires are still burning in part of the Pentagon. No death figures have been released yet.

5:20 p.m.: The 47-story Building 7 of the World Trade Center complex collapses. The evacuated building is damaged when the twin towers across the street collapse earlier in the day. Other nearby buildings in the area remain ablaze.

5:30 p.m.: CNN Senior White House Correspondent John King reports that U.S. officials say the plane that crashed in Pennsylvania could have been headed for one of three possible targets: Camp David, the White House or the U.S. Capitol building.

6 p.m.: Explosions are heard in Kabul, Afghanistan, hours after terrorist attacks targeted financial and military centers in the United States. The attacks occurred at 2:30 a.m. local time. Afghanistan is believed to be where bin Laden, who U.S. officials say is possibly behind Tuesday's deadly attacks, is located. U.S. officials say later that the United States had no involvement in the incident whatsoever. The attack is credited to the Northern Alliance, a group fighting the Taliban in the country's ongoing civil war.

6:10 p.m.:Giuliani urges New Yorkers to stay home Wednesday if they can.


Stunned onlookers
6:40 p.m.: Rumsfeld, the U.S. defense secretary, holds a news conference in the Pentagon, noting the building is operational. "It will be in business tomorrow," he says.

6:54 p.m.: Bush arrives back at the White House aboard Marine One and is scheduled to address the nation at 8:30 p.m. The president earlier landed at Andrews Air Force Base in Maryland with a three-fighter jet escort. CNN's John King reports Laura Bush arrived earlier by motorcade from a "secure location."

7:17 p.m.: U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft says the FBI is setting up a Web site for tips on the attacks: www.ifccfbi.gov. He also says family and friends of possible victims can leave contact information at 800-331-0075.

7:02 p.m.: CNN's Paula Zahn reports the Marriott Hotel near the World Trade Center is on the verge of collapse and says some New York bridges are now open to outbound traffic.


WTC devastation
7:45 p.m.: The New York Police Department says that at least 78 officers are missing. The city also says that as many as half of the first 400 firefighters on the scene were killed.

8:30 p.m.: President Bush addresses the nation, saying "thousands of lives were suddenly ended by evil" and asks for prayers for the families and friends of Tuesday's victims. "These acts shattered steel, but they cannot dent the steel of American resolve," he says. The president says the U.S. government will make no distinction between the terrorists who committed the acts and those who harbor them. He adds that government offices in Washington are reopening for essential personnel Tuesday night and for all workers Wednesday.

9:22 p.m.: CNN's McIntyre reports the fire at the Pentagon is still burning and is considered contained but not under control.

9:57 p.m.: Giuliani says New York City schools will be closed Wednesday and no more volunteers are needed for Tuesday evening's rescue efforts. He says there is hope that there are still people alive in rubble. He also says that power is out on the westside of Manhattan and that health department tests show there are no airborne chemical agents about which to worry.

10:49 p.m.: CNN Congressional Correspondent Jonathan Karl reports that Attorney General Ashcroft told members of Congress that there were three to five hijackers on each plane armed only with knives.

10:56 p.m: CNN's Zahn reports that New York City police believe there are people alive in buildings near the World Trade Center.

11:54 p.m.: CNN Washington Bureau Chief Frank Sesno reports that a government official told him there was an open microphone on one of the hijacked planes and that sounds of discussion and "duress" were heard. Sesno also reports a source says law enforcement has "credible" information and leads and is confident about the investigation.
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/11/chronology.attack/

http://www.911timeline.net/

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Interesting video, Johnee! In the movie, "World Trade Center," when the guys are trapped under the rubble, there is this scene where molten fire is shooting right past their faces. The description came right from the witnesses. It looks just like the thermite in the Steven Jones video.
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Did Bush Cause The 9/11 Attack?

(5/11/2005) On September 11, 2001 at 8:35 A.M. the first passenger jet flew into the north tower of the World Trade Center. At 9:03 A.M. the second jet flew into the south tower of the World Trade Center. When George W. Bush was told about this second jet he sat quietly reading "My Pet Goat" to school children for another 8 minutes.
The reason I believe that Bush caused the attack on 9/11 is not because of his immediate lack of reaction to the news, which in itself is very odd, but because of what happened leading up to 9/11, and after 9/11.
On August 6, 2001 Bush was given a national security memo that warned of a possible attack by al-Qaeda during the next few weeks using hijacked aircraft by al-Qaeda agents already inside the United States. Bush responded by taking a long vacation at his ranch in Crawford.
This was not the first warning Bush received about this threat but was just another in a long list of warnings and security recommendations.
Another strange fact had to do with Vice President Dick Cheney's activities that day. Dick was busy conducting war game simulations, some involving airplane hijacking simulations, in the north eastern portion of the United States. They would create fake blips on the radar screen and run simulations about what to do if the plane had been hijacked by terrorist. In preparation for this exercise Cheney had FEMA set up a command post on pier 29 in NYC on 9/10. Some of the simulations might have involved remote controlled aircraft.
Another troubling fact that day had to do with the lack of military jets that respond to the hijackings. Andrews Airforce Base was just 10 miles from Washington DC and yet fighter planes did not get into the air until after the third plane hit the Pentagon at 9:38 A.M.. Did someone tell the airforce to stand down for an hour?
Following is a list of other facts that point to gross incompetence, at best, and criminal collusion and conspiracy with the terrorist, at worst:
• Bush stopped Clinton's Saudi money tracking system.
• Bush told FBI to stop investigating Saudi money connection.
• Airlines stocks were being heavily traded during the weeks leading up to 9/11 indicating possible insider trading transactions.
• Of the 19 hijackers 17 were from Saudi Arabia.
• FBI Director Louis Freeh quits just weeks before attack on 9/11.
• FBI employee Sibel Edmonds warned about attack using hijacked commercial aircraft.
• A German agent told FBI about possible terrorist attack just prior to 9/11.
• Bush objects to 9/11 commission, he objects to the creation of the new department of Homeland Security, he refused to turn over documents, and he refuses to testify before the 9/11 commission. He does finally agree to testify but only after having an agreement that restricts questioning.
• NSA intercepts suspect chatter day before 9/11 warning of an attack that next day.
• Five hours after 9/11 attack Donald Rumsfeld told aides to come up with plans for attacking Iraq.
• Someone in Bush cabinet allowed the evacuation of bin Laden family member from the U.S..
• Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz shut down a plan to weaken the Taliban.
• The CIA's National Reconnaissance office had scheduled an exercise in which a small corporate jet would crash into an office tower following an equipment failure for the morning of 9/11.
• Numerous and repetitive lies from Condoleezza Rice, and Bush about warnings they had received prior to 9/11.
• Rumsfeld threatened a veto when Congress proposed to shift $600 million from Bush's Star Wars program to counter-terror programs prior to 9/11.
• Clifford Clarke gave numerous warnings to Bush officials about al-Qaeta plans to attack inside the U.S..
• Despite increased threat warning Tenet only briefed Bush twice in August 17 and 31. This is usually a daily briefing.
• Ashcroft's Justice Department curtailed a program to monitor al-Qaeda suspects in the U.S..
• Ashcroft stops flying in commercial aircraft and starts flying in private jets due to security alerts in the weeks before 9/11.
• In 1996 Clinton and Gore recommended changes in air safety but Republicans in Congress removed many recommendations claiming they were two costly for the airlines, or might infringe on civil liberties.
All these facts may just be incredible coincidences, or there could be a criminal collusion and conspiracy between the Bush administration, the Saudis, al-Qaeta, and the terrorist.
The truth is 9/11 was the perfect excuse the Bush administration needed to do what they have been doing; starting a costly long term war in Iraq, running up huge budget deficits for as far as be projected, rolling back civil liberties of American citizens, and using the war on terror as an excuse for massive increases in military budgets.
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9/11 was a controlled explosion after the planes hit.

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World Trade Center--Controlled Demolition

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Sureee, Volitzer, and how do you explain the planes smashing into the buildings, an optical illusion?

Why is the pancake collapse so incredible to people? I saw a special on how the WTC towers were built, which literally were like dominoes, not the typical way, with the traditional steel skeleton. Seems practical to me!

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