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                                     THE SEARCH FOR ATLANTIS IN CUBA





A Report by Andrew Collins

British historian Andrew Collins is the author of GATEWAY TO ATLANTIS, which in 2000 proposed
that Cuba was the flagship of Plato's island empire. He reports on the recent discoveries of a lost
city off Cuba, and its importance to the Atlantis legend.

 

Readers will be aware of the discovery deep beneath the Yucatan Channel, off the coast of Guanahacabibes in western Cuba, of what is purportedly a lost city.

Hi-tech sonar equipment aboard the 'Ulises', a vessel owned by Canadian firm Advanced Digital Communications (ADC), detected a several-kilometre square area of what appear to be roads,
pyramids and other building structures at a depth of 2,200 feet.

Yet it was not until July 2001 that Paulina Zelitsky, the Russian-born leader of the expedition,
got a chance to view the site first-hand.

A remote operated video (ROV), dispatched to the ocean floor, sent back frustratingly poor
quality footage of linear stone features and large stone blocks, their sides and edges worn
away by the actions of the sea.


What had ADC found, and was it connected in some way with the legend of lost Atlantis, as
described by the Athenian philosopher Plato more than 2,350 years ago?
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« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2008, 07:48:40 am »







One man's interpretation of Cuba's underwater pyramid located in the
Yucatan Channel.

This 3D image was created by Dean Clarke of Atlantisite.com after he
studied the deep-sea sonar image released to the world.

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« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2008, 07:53:58 am »










The Myth of Atlantis



Atlantis was said to have been an island empire the size of 'Libya and Asia put together',
founded by the sea-god Poseidon. It possessed a cosmopolitan metropolis, with palaces,
royal courts, harbor works and waterways that constantly received sea-going vessels
from afar.

For many generations Atlantis ruled the Atlantic Ocean as well as parts of the `opposite
continent'. Yet soon the empire set its sights on controlling the lands inside the Medi-
terranean basin. It was at this point that the fair race of Athens rose up against the
Atlantean aggressor and in a decisive naval battle defeated its enemy. Some time after-
wards the god Zeus unleashed 'earthquakes and floods' that drowned the Athenian navy
and submerged the island of Atlantis in one `terrible day and night'.

The date given for this catastrophe is post 8570 BC in Plato's dialogue the Timaeus and
9421 BC in its sequel the Critias.

Such is what Plato tells us about Atlantis, but we must never lose sight of the fact that
he was writing around 350 BC at the height of the classical age. Much of what he had to
say was influenced or based on political issues of his day, as well as matters of importance
debated in the philosophical schools in which he moved. Unquestionably, they would have
included whether or not there existed in the sea of Atlas, the modern Atlantic ocean, inhabit-
able islands reached by ocean-going mariners. Other contemporary writers spoke of islands
to the west that had been discovered and occupied by Phoenician and Carthaginian mariners,
who kept quiet about their existence in case of drawing undue interest from foreign nations.

Yet the evidence is there that these same voyagers crossed over the ocean and were aware
not only of the Sargasso Sea, but also the islands of the Bahamas and Caribbean. Indeed,
there is every indication that the Phoenicians and Carthaginians entered the Gulf of Mexico
and made landfall on the Gulf coast, where they could have traded goods such as tobacco
and coca leaves with cultures such as the Olmec and Maya of the Yucatan.
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« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2008, 07:55:55 am »










Rumours of Cataclysm



Following Columbus' celebrated landfall in the Bahamas in 1492, Spanish explorers heard
stories from the indigenous peoples of the Caribbean and Bahamas that spoke of a flood
which had devastated the archipelagos. It was said to have split apart a much larger land-
mass, killing the inhabitants and leaving the many thousands and islands and cays that
remain today.

Some of these stories include clues which hint at a much greater catastrophe.

One from Tobago speaks of 'the ole moon breaking', while others from Venezuela and the
Yucatan allude to a period of darkness, fire falling from the sky and the presence overhead
of a fiery snake.

Had some cosmic impact caused a massive cataclysm that devastated the Bahamas and
Caribbean?
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The Carolina Bays Comet



The presence of around 500,000 elliptical craters, ranging from a few hundred metres to
11 kilometres in size, across the entire eastern seaboard of the United States, from New
Jersey down to Miami, is perhaps the greatest clue. Modern theories are that these so-
called Carolina Bays (after the states in which they were first noted during aerial surveys
in the 1920s) were caused by a comet which entered the earth's atmosphere from the
north-west over Alaska and disintegrated into millions of pieces that detonated above the
ground, very much in the manner of the small comet which caused the Tunguska event in
Siberia in June 1908.

The effects of the catastrophe, some time around the end of the last Ice Age, were ex-
treme. Not only would it have caused a wall of fire and wind, which would have laid flat
large areas of Tundra forest and decimated flora and fauna, but the resulting dust clouds
would have created a 'nuclear winter' which seems to have resulted in a temporary re-ad-
vance of the ice fields that had covered much of North America, Europe and Asia for the
previous 40,000 years. Moreover, hundreds and thousands of fragments of the comet fall-
ing in the western Atlantic basin would have produced tsunami waves of immense proport-
ions which would have temporarily drowned both the eastern seaboard of the United
States and the islands of the Bahamas and Caribbean, wiping out entire populations (a few
must have got away to tell the tale, as it told in the creation myths of the indigenous
peoples of both Central and North America, and also those of the Caribbean).
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Could memories of this cataclysmic event have been preserved across millennia until they
were recounted eventually to Spanish explorers that reached in the Bahamas and Caribbean
in the wake of 1492? If so, were the same tales told to Phoenician and Carthaginian voyagers
who visited these same islands prior to Plato's age?

Did Plato come to hear not only of the islands which existed in the outer ocean, but also of
the cataclysm which once devastated this self same region?

Did it cause the landmass to be inundated by flood waters, splitting it into individual islands -
temporarily at first, but then more permanently when eventually the ice fields of North America,
Europe and Asia finally began to melt, causing the sea-level to rise by as much as 100 metres?

Thus was the sinking of Atlantis a memory of the sub-mergence of both the former Bahaman
landmass and the low-lying regions of the Caribbean?

Certainly we can say that all this took place around the very same time that Plato tells us
Atlantis was destroyed by 'one terrible day and night of earthquakes and floods'.

Moreover, if the Caribbean islands did once form part of Atlantis, then it would mean that
part of the landmass was still above water today.
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The Size of Libya and Asia Put Together?



Remember, mountain ranges do not sink out of sight simply through cataclysms such as
comet impacts. Certainly, it can be shown that the landmass was considerably smaller
than Plato would have us believe. At one point he says that it was the size of 'Libya and
Asia' put together. Yet later he reports that the island possessed a vast irrigated plain
that 'stretched for three thousand stadia [552 kilometres] in one direction, and at its
centre, for two thousand [stadia, i.e. 368 kilometres] inland from the coast'. Beyond it
to the north, west and east were `mountain ranges' that came right down to the sea as
precipitous cliffs, while the southern end of the plain, on which the city was situated,
was at sea-level. It does not take a geographer to realise that Plato was describing an
east-west orientated island perhaps as little as 600 by 400 kilometres in size.

By suggesting that Atlantis was the size of 'Libya and Asia' put together is likely to relate
not so much to its geographical extent but to the regions of the ocean over which the
kings of Atlantis were considered to hold dominion. This is verified in the knowledge that
the Atlantean empire was said to consist of a whole series of islands that lay in front of
an 'opposite continent', plausibly the American continent, reached by 'voyagers' using a
series of 'other islands', plausibly the Bahamas or Lesser Antilles, which in early colonial
times acted as stepping stones for ocean-going vessels attempting to reach the mainland.

So can we now go on to identify Plato's Atlantis?
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Cuba's Great Plain



The description of an island plain surrounded to the east, north and west by 'mountain
ranges', matches Cuba's western plain that stretches from Havana westwards to Pinar
del Río, and is enclosed on its northern and western extremes by the Cord de Guanigua-
nico mountain range. We also know that until around 9,000 years ago the plain extend-
ed southwards, across what is today the Bay of Batabanó, to the Isle of Youth. Here
then is evidence of a vast plain, originally 540 by 160 kilometres in extent, drowned, in
part at least, during the time-frame suggested by Plato.

Cuba's Cord de Guaniguanico might also be compared with the 'mountain ranges' that
Plato tells us shielded Atlantis' great plain from `cold northerly winds'. Between Novem-
ber and February each year, Cuba is subject to bitterly cold winds, known as los nortes,
or 'northers', that blow in blizzards from the eastern United States. Although these cold
fronts reach exposed regions of the Cuban landmass, the Cord de Guaniguanico comple-
tely shields the western plain from the harsh winds, which would otherwise damage
winter crops.
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« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2008, 08:07:29 am »









Moreover, Cuba has been identified by leading geographers as a mysterious island para-
dise known as Antillia, or the island of the Seven Cities, said to have laid in the outer
ocean according to Moorish, and later Portuguese medieval tradition (and unquestionably
borrowed from much earlier Phoenician and Carthaginian sources).

More than this, the name Antillia can be shown to derive from the Semitic word root ATL,
'to elevate', which was also the root behind the name Atlas, from which we derive the
name Atlantis, 'daughter of Atlas', the term used for an Atlantic island (Atlantides,
'daughters of Atlas', was the plural used in ancient times to denote Atlantic islands in gene-
ral). In other words, if Antillia was merely a medieval form of Atlantis, then it further con-
firms Cuba's association with Plato's Atlantic paradise.



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                                                          A N T I L L I A





From Wikipedia:

Antillia (or Antilia) is a phantom island said to lie in the Atlantic Ocean far to the west of Spain.
This mythical island had several other names such as Isle of Seven Cities, Ilha das Sete Cidades (Portuguese), Septe Cidades, Sanbrandan (or St Brendan), etc. Antillia was also identified with
islands including the Isles of the Blest and the Fortunate Islands.



The origin of the name is quite uncertain. The oldest suggested etymology (1455) fancifully
connects it with the name of the Platonic Atlantis, while later writers have endeavoured to
derive it from the Latin anterior (i.e. the island that is reached "before" Cipango), or from the
Jezirat al Tennyn, "Dragon's Isle".



Plutarch



The legend of the islands seems to have arisen at the latest in pre-Christian Roman times when
Plutarch chronicled (in 74 AD, chapter 8 refers) the life of the Roman military commander and
Consul of Spain Quintus Sertorius (died 75 BC). After returning by sea to Spain after a campaign
in "Mauretania" (modern northern Morocco), Sertorius "met some sailors who had recently come
back from the Atlantic Islands." It was from these men that Sertorius learned facts so beguiling
that he made it his life's ambition to find the islands and retire there. According to Plutarch:



“ The islands are said to be two in number separated by a very narrow strait and lie 10,000 furlongs
from Africa. They are called the Isles of the Blessed. They enjoy moderate rains and long intervals
of winds which for the most part are soft, and precipitate dew, so that the islands not only have a
rich soil excellent for ploughing and planting but also produce a natural fruit that is plentiful and whole-
some enough to feed, without toil or trouble, a leisured folk.

Moreover an air that is salubrious, owing to the climate and the moderate changes in the seasons,
prevails on the islands. The North and East winds which blow out from our part of the world plunge
into fathomless space and, owing to the distance, dissipate themselves and lose their power before
they reach the islands, while the South and West winds that envelop the islands sometimes bring in
their train soft and intermittent showers, but for the most part cool them with moist breezes and gently
nourish the soil. Therefore a firm belief has made its way, even to the barbarians, that here are the
Elysian Fields and the abode of the Blessed of which Homer sang."



MORE:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antillia
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« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2008, 08:11:03 am »










The Seven Caves



For more evidence of the part Cuba played in the foundation of the Atlantis myth,
we turn our attentions to the creation myths of the Mesoamerican peoples, such
as the Aztec, Toltec and Maya.

They spoke variously of their earliest ancestors coming from an island paradise loca-
ted in the east, known variously as Aztlan or Tulan, following a period of darkness
when the sun would not appear. On this island the first humans are said to have emer-
ged from somewhere called Chichomoztoc, the Seven Caves.

From these individuals came seven tribes, or clans, and by their hands rose Seven Cities.

I believe that some semblance of knowledge regarding the creation of the seven cities
in Mesoamerican myth led to Antillia, or Cuba, becoming known as the Island of the
Seven Cities.

Furthermore, just ten years after Christopher Columbus's famous landfall in the Bahamas
in 1492, the main islands of the Caribbean - Puerto Rico, Hispaniola and Cuba - were nam-
ed on maps as 'the Isles of Antillia of the King of Aragon', showing how the early Spanish
explorers likewise came to identify them with ancient Antillia and its accompanying islands.
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The only site in the whole of the Caribbean which bears any resemblance to Chico-
moztoc, the Seven Caves, is the Punta del Este cave complex at the extreme east-
ern end of a peninsular on the Isla de Juventud (Isle of Youth), divided from the
southern coast of the Cuban mainland by the Bay of Batabano.

Ceuva # Uno (Cave No. 1) has been described as a veritable Sistine chapel of the
prehistoric world, and is filled with beautiful petroglyphs of concentric circles, recti-
linear shapes and other abstract forms many thousands of years old.

I interpreted the symbolism of these designs as perhaps embodying the memory of
some kind of comet impact suffered by the Caribbean in a distant epoch.

Such thoughts came entirely from intuitive feelings experienced during a personal
visit to the cave in September 1998 - feelings that led me to explore the possibility
of a comet impact having devastated the region.

More curiously, Paulina Zelitsky, the director of the ADC team working out of Cuba,
visited the Punta del Este caves for the first time only shortly before the discovery
of the Guanahacabibes site, off the west coast of Cuba in July 2002. She has since
claimed that an unconfirmed carving of a cross detected on a large, roughly rectan-
gular block videoed at the underwater site, bears some similarity to an abstract cross
design found inside Punta del Este's Cueva # Uno.
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« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2008, 08:19:20 am »









The 1951 ECOS Article



Yet, it now appears that as early as 1951, a decade before the advent of Communist
rule on the island, Cuban archaeologists were working on the theory that the petro-
glyphs in Punta del Este's Ceuva # Uno's reflected some kind of cosmic catastrophe
which devastated Atlantis.

A two-page article appeared in the February 1952 edition of the magazine ECOS en-
titled 'Formó Cuba Parte de la Atlándida?'. Written by Francisco Garcia-Juarez, the
press secretary of the Instituto Cubano de Arqueologia (Institute of Cuban Archaeo-
logy, or ICA) it posed the question:

did Cuba once form part of Atlantis?

He explained how members of the Institute were investigating the idea that traces
of an Atlantean culture might be found in Cuba and Hispaniola, a view offered to
them by Egerton Sykes, then a world renowned authority on Atlantis. In 1949 he had
written an introduction for a revised edition of ATLANTIS: THE ANTEDILUVIAN WORLD,
the all-time classic on the subject, written by former US congressman Ignatius Donnelly
and published for the first time in 1882 (and still available as a re-print by Dover Publica-
tions).

Sykes was also the editor of a journal propounding Hans Hoerbinger's Cosmic Ice theory
entitled, simply, ATLANTIS, in which appeared a partial translation of the above-men-
tioned ECOS article.
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According to Syke's translation, the ICA concluded that the most likely location where-
traces of the Atlantean culture might be found on Cuba was the Punta del Este cave
complex.

In one cave was found steps that led up to an alcove which might possibly have been
used by priests to observe the movement of the stars. Moreover, petroglyphs inside the
caves (presumably those in Cueva # Uno) displayed astronomical information which linked
them with the origins of the Maya calendrical system, thus the possibility that Cuba had
been a 'staging post' for the migrations of the Maya into Central America should not be
overlooked.

More than this, the translation stated:



"On the South coast of Cuba, at Camaguey, there are many partially
submerged mounds called "caneyes", which may have been places of
refuge for primitive man.

There are numerous artifacts here which have never been adequately
investigated. Numerous skeleton remains found here give evidence of
a sudden and violent death due to some catastrophe.

The artifacts include stone balls, spherical stones, elongated stones,
and rods with forked ends resembling snakes.

The absence of large monuments may merely mean they have not yet
been seriously looked for."
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Sykes had told the ICA that, if Cuba did form part of Atlantis, then its archaeologists
would find evidence on the island of artificial deformation of the cranium among its
ancient inhabitants, as well as step monuments or ziggurats and methods of cutting
and orientating large rocks.

Why exactly he felt they would find these things is not made clear, although I suspect
that his theories were based on Donnelly's concept of a diffusion of shared ideas among
ancient cultures on both sides of the Atlantic Ocean, due to the suggested migration
of peoples from Atlantis following its destruction. Whatever the reasons, the archaeo-
logists confirmed that all of these things had been found on Cuba, but, as the article
stated, there would have to be a revolution of the established ways of thinking before
their presence would be seen as evidence for the existence of Atlantis.

What was infinitely more important, however, were the interpretations of the petro-
glyphs found in the Punta del Este caves (again, seemingly those in Cueva # Uno) by
Cuban archaeologists back in 1951.

Captions accompanying two examples shown as line illustrations, explained that the sym-
bols showed a comet with a tail hitting an astral, or celestial, body, and breaking up,
confirming my own theory that the petroglyphs of Cueva # Uno embodied a memory of
a catastrophe caused by the fragmentation of a comet during some former age. Yet,
what evidence might we find that the former Bahaman landmass might once have been
home to the same Atlantean culture?
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« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2008, 08:30:06 am »









Cayce's Psychic Quest



In 1926 Edgar Cayce, America's most famous psychic, agreed to use his psychic talents
to find buried treasure on the twin-islands of Bimini, the self-styled 'gateway to the
Bahamas'.

The wealthy businessmen involved had asked Cayce to join them in Miami following some
initial readings (all mostly missing now from the Cayce archives). However, Cayce had
said that he could not easily take up temporary residence in Miami because of his prac-
tice at Virginia Beach. Moreover, in one letter he pointed out that his son was seriously
ill and that he could not possibly make any long journeys until the boy had regained his
full health.

Edgar Cayce and his business associates never did find any buried treasure on Bimini,
even though the psychic made his only ever visit to the island in February 1927. How-
ever, both during the psychic investigations and afterwards, Cayce now began to refer
to Bimini as a surviving fragment of a great landmass called Poseidia, itself a surviving
portion of a great continent called Atlantis.

He predicted that parts of Poseidia would start to rise off Bimini in 'sixty-eight and sixty-
nine, not so far away'.

This led to a concentration of effort by the Association of Research and Enlightenment
(ARE), the active arm of the Edgar Cayce Foundation, to find evidence of Atlantis in
the shallow waters around Bimini, and in the summer of 1968 this culminated in the dis
-covery of rectangular foundations (the so-called 'temple site') in the metre-deep
waters off Andros, the largest island in the Bahamas, as well as the so-called Bimini
Road site, located off Paradise Point, North Island.
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