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« on: February 23, 2008, 10:29:17 am »









McCain hopes Castro to "meet Marx soon"





By Jason Szep
Fri Feb 22, 2008
 
INDIANAPOLIS (Reuters) - Republican presidential front-runner John McCain suggested on Friday that he hoped retired Cuban leader Fidel Castro would die soon and said Castro's brother will be a worse leader.
 
"I hope he has the opportunity to meet Karl Marx very soon," McCain told a town-hall style meeting of about 150 people, referring to communist theoretician Marx who died on March 14, 1883.

Castro, 81, announced on Tuesday he was stepping down as president and commander-in-chief of Cuba's armed forces after 49 years in power. His brother Raul Castro is expected to be named Cuba's new head of state on Sunday.

"Apparently he is trying to groom his brother Raul," McCain said. "Raul is worse in many respects than Fidel was."

Castro has not appeared in public since undergoing stomach surgery and handing power temporarily to Raul in July 2006.

McCain, a four-term Arizona senator, has an almost insurmountable lead over his last major Republican rival, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee.

McCain's approach to Cuba has generally echoed that of U.S. President George W. Bush, who has tightened a decades-long trade embargo and has rejected easing sanctions without a transition to democracy.

McCain, who is popular among conservative Cuban-Americans, also has said that if he wins the November 4 U.S. presidential election he would keep up pressure for political change in Cuba's one-party state.

That includes a travel ban and trade and financial sanctions enforced a few years after Castro's 1959 revolution on the Caribbean island.

McCain, 71, a former prisoner of war in Vietnam, has accused Cubans of participating in the torture of some of his fellow prisoners in Hanoi during the Vietnam War.

(To read more about the U.S. political campaign, visit Reuters "Tales from the Trail: 2008" online at http://blogs.reuters.com/trail08/)

(Editing by Bill Trott)
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« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2008, 10:32:53 am »








What an UN-presidential statement!!!

Sounds like Pat Robertson.



Furthermore, at 72 and ,by the way he looks, Mr. McCain's and Castros's chances of meeting
 
Marx are just about even............
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« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2008, 02:05:41 pm »

I thought it was a very tacky remark.  No one should wish death on another person.  It is up to an all-wise Creator to make those decisions.

In my opinion, he's just trying to pander to the ultra right wing conservatives of his party, but this could backfire on him in the general election.
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« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2008, 04:11:27 pm »

McCain is still fighting the Cold War, like a lot of these old GOPers are.  Does anyone really care that Castros was a Marxist?  A lot of younger people don't even know what Marxism is, or why they should hate Castro for that reason.

Right wingers also tend to villify socialism, too.  Again, who cares? 

But they are so threatened by any economic philosophy that might cut into their profit margins that they keep on fighting these old wars.
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« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2008, 04:15:22 pm »

And McCain does have a habit of making these bloodthirsty, totally inappropriate remarks unbecoming a Commander-in-Chief.  Not to mention, he has a really bad temper!

People like their Presidents to be cool-headed people, who don't always say everything on their minds.
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« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2008, 04:27:43 pm »

McCain is still fighting the Cold War, like a lot of these old GOPers are.  Does anyone really care that Castros was a Marxist?  A lot of younger people don't even know what Marxism is, or why they should hate Castro for that reason.

Right wingers also tend to villify socialism, too.  Again, who cares? 

But they are so threatened by any economic philosophy that might cut into their profit margins that they keep on fighting these old wars.

Do you even know what socialism is yourself ??

Granted I agree with the fighting old wars bit.
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« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2008, 04:29:54 pm »

And McCain does have a habit of making these bloodthirsty, totally inappropriate remarks unbecoming a Commander-in-Chief.  Not to mention, he has a really bad temper!

People like their Presidents to be cool-headed people, who don't always say everything on their minds.

70% of Ron Paul's campaign donations come from the military.  A co-incidence.   Wink
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« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2008, 04:32:45 pm »

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Do you even know what socialism is yourself ??

Of course I know what it is.  Do you, or are you mixing it up with pure Communism?
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« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2008, 04:34:11 pm »

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&0% of Ron Paul's campaign donations come from the military.  A co-incidence.


What percent of Ron Paul's donations are coming from the military?  I can't read your percentile.
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« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2008, 04:44:27 pm »

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Do you even know what socialism is yourself ??

Of course I know what it is.  Do you, or are you mixing it up with pure Communism?

Socialism is good if everyone agrees to it in small groups like priests, monks or nuns living in a monastery and working a small farm.

Communism is socialism at gun-point where mafia-like group runs it while they get their first choice to the spoils of production while making everyone else wait and suffer for their share.  On a nationwide scale it always inevitably fails.  However that doesn't stop some liberal types from wanting similar policies here.

Socialistic nations don't believe in private land ownership which is why economic development in 3rd world nations gets stagnated.
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« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2008, 04:45:30 pm »

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70% of Ron Paul's campaign donations come from the military.  A co-incidence.


What percent of Ron Paul's donations are coming from the military?  I can't read your percentile.

70,  Embarrassed sorry about that I had the [shift] key accidentally down.
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« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2008, 04:48:38 pm »

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On a nationwide scale it always inevitably fails.  However that doesn't stop some liberal types from wanting similar policies here.

Most European countries are socialist to some extent.  Why?  Because if the government doesn't handle certain services, then they get privatized, and white, wealthy areas would get them, while poor, depressed areas would not.

Of course, the government has to engage in some type of socialism, for the simple reason that the government is the only one able to do some of these things.
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« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2008, 04:55:28 pm »

Welfare, research and development, the roads, police, fire, ambulance, politicians who hold state or federal jobs.  I can see this but as part as a capitalistic economy.  All these small towns across just have these professions which is why unless there is a high percentage of employment or people leaving they tend toi become high crime real soon due to lack of capitalistic endeavor.

I had to do that with NYS, the area I came from was anti-industrial development and relied heavily on the prison industry.  A mis-use of socialism if you ask me.
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« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2008, 04:57:36 pm »

Obama, Paul net most military workers' donations
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 Enlarge By Charlie Neibergall (left) and Orlin Wagner, both AP



 
Sen. Barack Obama, left, received $27,000 from military personnel. Rep. Ron Paul, right, took in $19,300.
 
WASHINGTON — Democrat Barack Obama and Republican Ron Paul have little in common politically, except their opposition to the Iraq war.
Both top a new list of presidential candidates receiving campaign contributions from people who work for the four branches of the military and National Guard, according to a study released Thursday by the non-partisan Center for Responsive Politics.


USA TODAY ON POLITICS: GOP still gets more

Obama, an Illinois senator, brought in more donations from this group than any White House contender from either party. The Democrat announced Wednesday his plan to withdraw all U.S. troops from Iraq by the end of 2008.

Paul, a Texas congressman and the only GOP presidential hopeful who supports an immediate troop withdrawal, comes in second.


"Paul and Obama are talking straight to soldiers, and what they are saying is resonating," said Larnell Exum, a retired Army lieutenant colonel, who gave $500 to Obama. Exum, who works for the Army as a congressional liaison, is a Democrat but voted for George Bush in 1992.

The center tallied money from donors who list the Air Force, Army, Marines, Navy and National Guard as an employer. Overall, these donations are miniscule: Obama got 44 contributions worth about $27,000 and Paul 23 for about $19,300. Republican John McCain, an Iraq war supporter and Vietnam prisoner of war, was third with about $18,500 from 32 donors.

In 2004, military personnel contributed $1.2 million to presidential and congressional candidates, the center said. This year, those donations are about $200,000.

The analysis also found that military personnel have shifted their donations. In 2002, the center said Democrats received 23% of contributions from military workers; Republicans got 77%. This year, 40% of their donations have gone to Democrats running for Congress and president. The GOP got 59%.

The donation patterns "would suggest that those who wear the uniform want change," said Joe Davis, spokesman for the Veterans of Foreign Wars.

Bruce Altschuler, a political scientist at the State University of New York at Oswego and a Vietnam veteran, said, "The whole country has been shifting to Democrats, and the military, in some ways, is a microcosm of society."

Spokeswoman Jen Psaki said Obama is pleased to have the support of those "who have sacrificed so much."

Paul spokesman Jesse Benton said the military support makes sense. The congressman "wants to get (troops) out of playing the world's policemen and get them home," he said.

Altschuler cautioned against reading too much into the early contributions, particularly in such small amounts. "These figures could look very different in a few months."

 http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2007-09-13-military-donors_N.htm?loc=interstitialskip
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« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2008, 04:59:08 pm »

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70% of Ron Paul's campaign donations come from the military.  A co-incidence.


What percent of Ron Paul's donations are coming from the military?  I can't read your percentile.

70,  Embarrassed sorry about that I had the [shift] key accidentally down.

Well, I can see that, both him and Obama are against the war in Iraq!  Shows how unpopular that is now.
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