Hi Norman
Thanks for your post, Yes I have to contemplated Rapture many times and I have searched for the truth of it. I even made all kinds of predictions on Rapture as I felt rapture could be related to the ancient places as the focal point.
Here is a link where I attempted to accumulate scriptures that I came across that I felt was related to rapture.
http://www.sevenfoldbooks.com/translation_scriptures.htmPerhaps I'm ahead of myself on this subject but I feel rapture in essence is a great learning and correction experience for man in his faith and will be the reckoning of false attitude brought about by Doctrine which is inconsistent. This covers all religion not just one religion.
I sense that rapture is related to the end at the beginning (the former things) and is where the end shall be at the heritage of the ages.
I feel that if man or even his church of the Jesus rejects the final presentation of the Father at the beginning, the Father will rapture the ones that have faith and the rest that are left behind will have to think about things for a while. I believe this is the learning experience for man and this is where doctrine will be corrected and many will murmur about that and will be greatly disappointed that there doctrine failed them in there attitude which is the ultimate display of current leadership.
Rapture is to me is the correction Rod for the Church and this will be the reckoning of doctrine that is inconsistent with the ultimate truth and attitude of Jesus.
I believe Jesus is here and if he is not here the Holy Spirit represents him and Jesus knows exactly what is happening and is guiding everything.
It could very well be that Jesus may visit Iran and its leadership at the point of rapture to open up the places for exploration there after. In these days no one is going to lift a finger over here because of gross slothfulness and disbelief even though we have all the resources to this. This could be the learning experience of the people and leadership in Iran and for Christianity together. I believe it is quite possible that Jesus himself will open the door and stimulate government to explore the places in light of this devastation where everyone is corrected and will learn something. This could be the lessons for Islam in the unification of all religion and serves as a correction for everyone.
In this part it is speculation but to me it makes total sense that all will see the truth where all pride and prejudice and false notions will be smashed to pieces.
This would destroy the division that divides us all. Its is prophesied in the Quran that Jesus will come and slay the last rebel or Dajjal at Babeludd. Not unlike in Christian prophecy and I believe it would be directly related to the beginning where the end is. Where the great correction begins! Where there is still unfinished business of the places relating to the fallen Sons of the Father.
I believe rapture is the reckoning of all false notions and inconsistency but more over it is completely related to attitude and stiff necked prejudice filled words and attitude that ultimately leads to death and destruction as we see today without a doubt.
Everyone will learn a great lesson and will be humbled totally but in that man will arise perfected through the trials of his faith in the experience.
At this time the last rebel is restrained to a degree but post rapture the rebel will be unrestrained for a time because the elect wont be here to subdue the mischievousness of the rebel and that's when many things will fall apart.
If man, at the end of rapture fails to see this and whitewashes the whole thing to some pheonomena then there is no alternative to a severe judgment of all mankind and that's when the Ancient of Days arrive physically committed to judgment. Post rapture/pre judgment could also mark the the beginning of the rise of the beast who may be represented as an individual who may very well hijack the places for his own benefit.
However the corrected faithful ones in this period will be protected and will be looked after but could mark real devastation for many people in the failure of the doctrine which is displayed in there ultimate attitude in the post rapture period.
The dead sea scrolls and information written by the last teacher of righteousness is completely relevant to this time and by faith, the Office of the Messiah has been opened and fulfilled as according the words of the last teacher of righteousness.
As to the timing I have no idea but I feel the timing its is related to the attitude of man in this time right now! Where I am ahead of myself I have no idea all I can do is write for the Sevenfold Seraphic teaching corp in this mission of Earth.
Personally, I don't think there will be many raptured as that will mark the failure of leadership to pick up on these things and reluctance to share with the congregation. This time is a time of faith and if the watchtower falls asleep whilst on duty failing to warn and prepare the congregation then it will be evident of the failure of leadership and the congregation will not be happy even though its a individual thing in the attitude in the failure!
Its a catch 22, your damned if you don't act and your damned by your peers if you are ahead of yourself ahahahah.
What a scenario and it will take great boldness and faith for a real leader to warn the congregation in faith.
Personally, If I was a leader of a great church I would be upfront and honest in the assessment and I would keep nothing away or even suppress it because the proof will be in the evidence. That's why I say that it is Christianity's responsibility to explore these places with a true heart and with sincerity to explore and search to truth of these places. The truth of the matter! Its for the congregation sake not for personal standing or anything like that. All pride will be taken out of man when he realizes he missed the boat because of attitude!
Somehow I think the talk is over and now its in the action battle stations for the survival of Christianity and all its people in the whole body! So I would grab the check book and go out there and verify the and check out everything related to this grand adventure that will have consequences. Its is time for re evaluation in the search for the truth in the physical! in the verification.
Its is time for re evaluation in the search for the truth in the physical! in the verification whilst there is time in the beforehand!
I cant do a thing except to write, that's all I can do.
Here is another thread I started sometime ago relating to rapture which may be beholden to further clues in the great Seventh mystery.
http://forums.atlantisrising.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=20;t=000162All the best Norman
Sevens