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« Reply #75 on: May 02, 2008, 02:21:57 am »

Whilst the above post may seem a little silly to some or the majority The ancients of Days and the Universal Hierarchy may take it this proclamation very very serious and I wouldn't underestimate anything....nothing!.

The Islam prophecy for the area may appear to aggressive and violent but in real truth in accordance to the way I see it.  I believe its a spiritual army of no violence, it should never be interpreted on the basis of violence.

The Mahdi is the leader of a spiritual army, no different to Zion army that must commit no violence and abandon all forms of destruction.

Only in new truth replacing non truth, non truth in reality is all to do with violence and destruction against any brother.

How the Mahdi Army wins is through the truth of no violence and does run in parallel to the will of the Father and Jesus.  The only way the Mahdi army will ever hope to win anything is through NO Violence.

Paradise does accept violence and the Ancients of Days are absolutely serious about this.  Honestly, if people forsake the truth an continue the road of violence they will be in breach of the will of Paradise/The Father and will not make into Paradise!  This is absolute.

This can be backed up in the Book of Enoch.

I would strongly suggest that the various so called Mahdi Army in Iraq including Al Sadrs groups, Al Queda and others in the surrounding area must desist from Violence and lay down the arms and negotiate a peace settlement.  Every Mahdi army member should go back to there family and relearn the truth from all the books of the prophets in all cultures focalised on the ancient places as discovered including the highland capital in Khorasan where another section of the Planetary truth comes from and will be further established.

I would say this would be a direct command from Paradise.

I can assure you if this occurred then the Western Alliance will also seek for peace and then peace will come into the land.

If this is disobeyed, then one forfeits there own Paradise quest.

Point blank period!

I just want to say that if the true Mahdi Army of non violence arises they will incorporated in the spiritual Office of the Messiah including the spiritual army of Zion of NO VIOLENCE represented by Jesus and Melchizedek and this will destroy Dajjal,  remembering Dajjal works specifically in creating division amoungst man.

Zion is not exclusive club built by one race only, but is a spiritual army of truth that incorporates all man from all cultures, has nothing to do with race as the truth in the End Times. The truth of the End times comes from the so called Gentiles which incorporates all man in definition including the Jews. This is the inquiry of mans souls regardless of race. Race has nothing to with anything in this case but the soul of an individual all related to attitude!

The requirements of the end times is small and narrow!

It is truly the time now to understand our other brothers and its through unity in the truth of the matter that all man should be looking into.

Honestly, we have to learn and especially to understand our fellow brother.  That is the way to destroy terrorism and Dajjal/Caligastia the last rebel.


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« Reply #76 on: May 02, 2008, 02:57:13 am »

The requirements of the end times is a small and narrow path but gee its mighty and powerful in Paradise truth and has all backing!

Also I want to add another directive from the Office of the Messiah for the Mahdi Army and for everyone else who breaches this.

"Absolutely no violence what so ever against Women, any interpretation that approves of women beating,  stoning and body castration is strictly forbidden and false.  Utterly!  To do these things to women is an absolute offense to Paradise!

Those who disobey this will be punished! 

Women are mans equal partner and are the Mothers of our children and should be held in the upmost respect, not some slave to be pushed around!

Women are civilisation builders in many aspects that man should appreciate NOW and love her in all ways and unconditionally with the love of Jesus and the Father.

Women is the equal help partner in life, in type of Man and Jesus working together and the relationship should be based on that standard, on the highest standards of the Universe and Paradise!

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« Reply #77 on: May 02, 2008, 03:48:57 am »

Everyone has to take responsibility for there own actions and cannot fore go responsibility in untruth that is unrealistic and cannot be proven nor established in truth.

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« Reply #78 on: May 02, 2008, 08:18:50 pm »

Im having a crack at some of the prophecies of Khorason as mentioned by Mohammad.

I was interested in this fragment.

   
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In the country Khurasan in Taluqan (northern Afghanistan) that at that place are   treasures of Allah, but these are not of gold and silver but consist of people who have recognised Allah as they should have.  (Al-Muttaqi al-Hindi, Al-Burhan fi Alamat al-Mahdi Akhir al-zaman, p.59)   
I tend to feel that is all relates to the great discovery in the images and realisation of Vans/Amadons/Adamsons highland homeland in North Eastern Iran and is part of the journey of the path of the tree of life in past ages.   The discovery is not of material gold but is representative of truth in the highest level as discovered in cooperation of what is written in the new book. 

The source/base information leading to this discovery is from a book written by the angels for mankind's future destiny.  The book and the journey of its words raises a people who has the right relationship with God on the spiritual level and it marks the truth of Paradise with the intent of love one another, the true way that all should of followed in the past.

The Urantia Book is book specifically tailored by the angels for Islam and Christianity alike and designed to compliment, not to replace but to extract the truth out of each book in the demonstration in the oneness and unity of truth in the discovery and verification in each book.

It is the new book of Allah that Islam should investigate in matters. 

The Urantia Book has proven itself in the journey and stands alone from all religion.  It is truly independent and of Paradise authorship and has helped fulfill prophecy in each book.

But compellingly, the Urantia Book extracts the truth fragments out of each book to form a unity of truth in the journey of discovery being led by the book and which incorporates all the books of religion being opened in this time concerning mankind.

Concerning Islam, the Urantia Book is the new uplift of Islam and Christianity alike to form the unity of the One God religion in completion throughout the world with greater definition and wider understanding.

This is the big mystery and the eye opener for man.  The only thing that prevents unity is pride and prejudice and inability to learn in light of the facts.

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« Reply #79 on: May 02, 2008, 09:44:49 pm »

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The Christians will demand their wanted people, to which the Muslims will answer: "By Allah! They are our brothers. We will never hand them over." This will start the war. One-third Muslims will run away. Their ‘Tawbah’ (Repentance) will never be accepted. One-third will be killed. They will be the best 'Shaheed' (martyrs) near Allah. The remaining one-third will gain victory, until, under the leadership of Imam Mehdi, they will fight against Kufr (non-believers). This group will belong to Khurasan

Well the above appears to reflect the current climate of the war of Islam with Christian based civilizations.  Seems obvious.

I'm discounting the opinions or interpretations within the fragment as I see differently in relation to this journey.  These interpretations have created wars like this where things have  been taken out of context leading death and destruction which is not the way of paradise in the level I see the opinions as erroneous!

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The Christians will demand their wanted people, to which the Muslims will answer: "By Allah! They are our brothers. We will never hand them over."
  This seems reflect the demand for the ring leaders of terrorism sought out by the west in this current climate of war. "They are our brothers. We will never hand them over."  There is resistance to this demand which is understandable!
This will start the war. One-third Muslims will run away The resistance begins a war like this current war, 1/3 will be killed another 1/3 will run from war and will not participate but should not be condemned as they refugees from war.

"The remaining one-third will gain victory, until, under the leadership of Imam Mehdi,they will fight against Kufr (non-believers).  This group will belong to Khurasan." 

The other 1/3 who gets the victory could very well be those who embrace the truth that comes out of "Khurasan."  You know the ancient places.  The truth of the path of the tree of life of NO VIOLENCE, the ones who discover and embrace the truth.  The ones who work for truth, beauty and goodness towards all man as all man are blood brothers, same species.  This the truth, from "Khurasan." that claims the victory in truth!  Now this group from  "Khurasan." of the Highland Capital of Van embraces all man and walks in parallel with other brothers of other religions who are also affected by the great realisation.  This would be the forming of the unity of man and the Father arising. 

"under the leadership of Imam Mehdi,"  Obviously there is an individual who will discover the treasure of "Khurasan." and through his discovery of the real hidden truth he will guide the remaining 1/3 against ignorance and division and will will win and will be in unity with other religions as it should be.  "Khurasan." is the land of the Sunrise where great spiritual treasures will be found and is related to planetary destiny!  The truth will arise from "Khurasan."  like in the discovery and truth of Vans highland home.  "The remaining one-third will gain victory, until, under the leadership of Imam Mehdi, they will fight against Kufr (non-believers)."  This should not be interpreted as fight against Christianity nor against other religions as we both follow the one God in our own way through various religions.  Islam is part by product of Judaism and of Christianity particularly the early Eastern Christian church thats why there is many commonalities that can be shared more than differences in truth.

The real fight is against ignorance and arrogance with truth in a non violent peaceful way that is good witness to any man showing respect and tolerance towards one another.  In truth the Kufr is not Christianity nor other religions.  Not at all, I believe that is a erroneous interpretation  used in wrong justification for war and destruction leading man in the wrong path.

"This group will belong to Khurasan. They will be wearing black turbans. People will rise up from the East who will keep on coming forward, trampling the ground under the feet, to the aid of Imam Mahdi to help establish his government."  The group from Khurasan will have the best truth of all good things.  The black turbans I think is a fashion statement of that time held on to.  In metaphor the Black Turban represents an ensign a symbol.  The Imam has symbols in his advent that can be recognized and that is the symbols of the circles.  The Imam comes from the East in which fulfills this journey coming from the extreme east from the Land of Sinim.  Kangaroo country in cooperation with the coastlands and with the all the prophets and seers of old even in recent times.  The message coming from the east, land of Sinim and attached to "Khurasan" in discovery linked with perfection of oneness.  "People will rise up from the East who will keep on coming forward,"  People, (anyone) will continue to embrace, it will not stop, momentum in truth embrace continues and again comes from the east.  The true Mahdi army will not trample upon man but will instead uplift man in higher realms of thinking with the truth! and nothing but the truth!  In essence trampling on ignorance with truth but not physically trampling man as that is deemed as an offense to Paradise according to the plumb line that has been set by Paradise!  This truth will establish the true spiritual government of the Imahdi or the Paradise government of the Father on earth.  The Mahdi is a representative of Paradise with a non violent government with the ensign of truth as its symbol.

"From Khurasan will emerge black flags, whom none will be able to turn back (and they, the flag bearers, will continue moving forward) till they reach Illya (Jerusalem) and embed their flags into its earth."  Yes, the truth led by the Ensign of truth will reach Jerusalem and plant its emblem in the soil of Jerusalem.  This is NOT due to some war in the physical but in non violent truth where the truth will reach Jerusalem and this case the emblem is the 3 concentric circles, the Melchizedek of Salem.

In metaphor, in this level of the journey, the truth comes from "Khurasan" and ends in Jerusalem the home of the Melchizedek when on earth.  All related with the right symbols and the Melchizedek is the rightful Planetary Prince of this Planet.

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"Prophet Mohammad: "Before your treasure, three will kill each other -- all of them are sons of a different caliph but none will be the recipient. Then the Black Banners will appear from the East and they will kill you in a way that has never before been done by a nation."

"Before your treasure, three will kill each other -- all of them are sons of a different caliph but none will be the recipient."
  This seems to reflect the groups under different leadership in Islam fighting the war of death and destruction.  To me this points directly to Al Queda, The Taliban and perhaps the current Mahdi army in Iraq and any one supporting terrorism including countries.  This tells me and backed up in the Book of Enoch that there quest will all fail and they will receive nothing for their efforts from Paradise.  If they turn back now and lay down there arms and follow the peace path and relearn the truth then they might come out of it successfully regarding Paradise.  But at the moment they are not within the enclave of Paradise in truth!

It obvious that they wont listen to the message and continue the error of death and destruction and loose everything even there there after life.  3 caliphs means 3 leaders in Islam that are in error using death and destruction with wrong interpretation used as justification for death!  However, whilst this is all happening a new an revitalized resurrected truth comes to pass with the right ensign and with truth as the vanguard representative of the truth of Paradise that will be successful even unto Jerusalem.

And here are some cooperating fragments

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Related by Abu Hurayrah: Prophet Mohammad said: "(Armies carrying) black flags will come from Khurasan (Afghanistan). No power will be able to stop them and they will finally reach Jerusalem where they will erect their flags." (Tirmidhi)

On the authority of Thawbaan, the Messenger of Allah said: "If you see the Black Banners coming from Khurasan go to them immediately, even if you must crawl over ice, because indeed amongst them is the Caliph, Al Mahdi." [Narrated on authority of Ibn Majah, Al-Hakim, Ahmad]

(Advised to embrace the real truth of Paradise from arises out of "Khurasan"

Amr ibn Hurayth quoted AbuBakr as-Siddiq as saying that Allah's Messenger told them the Dajjal would come forth from a land in the East called Khurasan, followed by people whose faces resembled shields covered with skin.

Dajjal also appears to be present working his confusion in "Khurasan" and related areas currently.  There appears to be 2 powers in the area, the army of confusion, death and destruction based on wrong interpretations with its opposing force and the forces of Paradise that come from the ancient places as the real opposing force to eror in truth from Paradise/Kingdom of Heaven.

Well its all happening in my view!


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« Reply #80 on: May 05, 2008, 06:27:38 am »

There seems some that agree with rapture and some that dont

I thought this was an interesting view point about rapture

     http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=2126717650962714847&hl=en     

There seems to be mention of a secret rapture, I wonder if this is related to the ancient places since only a very few know about the places?

and here is another viewpoint that disagrees with rapture.

     http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=1345977691961557857&hl=en     

All views and points raised are good points but I tend to feel there is a rapture that is very specific like this journey.

Im really wondering about this secret rapture thought, the activation that is not well known. The journey to the former things is a journey where either you believe or dont? and very few people will look into or have faith in it for that matter.

Its one of these journeys, you either believe it or not, maybe associated with the secret rapture so to speak as some/few people are speaking about.

It could be the activation of the secret rapture and appears to make sense to me. real sense but everything has to be tested.

But you have to make up your own mind and that's the beauty about this journey you are free to do so.

Jesus did say what has been hidden shall be revealed. Nothing will be kept hidden and that means the former things, the ancient places.

Here is some rapture thoughts from an Islamic researcher. He raises interesting points that seem contradictory with Bias to in some respects.

     http://www.youtube.com/v/Te3dtyBYlLg&hl=en     

The people who killed Jesus was not whole of Israel or all the Jews but the system of the ruling  Pharisees and the Sanhedrin at the time. I believe the religious adminstrators at that time where in it for self interest in the monoplolisation of religion and the temple currency!  The attitude was simply was an abomination as far as Jesus was concerned.  However, there where many that believed in Jesus' truth in Israel at the time.  The author of the video is generalizing to much and taking things out of prospective about the death of Jesus and who killed him.  It wasnt the whole nation but the religious power brokers at the the time.  In many senses its no different today where currency is monopolised to the point where this monopolisation enslaves man.   Modern slavery as what we have today in this world of the end times through compounding interest.


Many of the Jewish scholars today are beginning to see that Jesus is the Messiah and the Melchizedek is a Messiah as well.  They are both Messiahs where each helps the other in the quest of truth!

To me it clearly highlights that a correction of truth has to occur to correct all perceptions. I think this journey does it and is a stand alone journey but connected to all books. I believe its the demonstration!

It was good to hear the Islamic prospective and we should mindful of all things because there maybe some clues there to.

Note the triangle circle chevron in the last video!!! ahahaha

What a hint that is! Consider, where the author of the last video doesn't not realize the significance of the triangle/circle chevron symbol in this journey of symbolism connected to the submerged cities where truth meets symbol.

It seems to me that some thing new comes in the middle that does connect and makes all sense and touches the heart of all the truth in each religion.

ahahahahah


Now here is an Islamic Video on the Last Mehdi which would be akin to the last messenger before Jesus comes to destroy Dajjal.

You will note that the interpretation of this is seen in a physical war like fashion which you would understand!

However from my prospective, in relation to the ancient former places I see the following interpretation as spiritual of truth uncovering truth. Where the truth from places swallow up in truth, false interpretations through a demonstration for all the countries where the ancient places are and verified.  Actual change comes from these places where people follow the truth in a spiritual sense abandoning war.

In truth the Last Mehdi is not a physical war or army but a truth army from Paradise/Kingdom of heaven and demonstrates itself in truth which does actually conquer in truth!

     http://www.youtube.com/v/VyO_4Gndc-k&hl=en     

I might listen more to these videos as they informs of what other religions see and maybe we can find more clues looking from our prospective of the former places.

Mind you the last battle is around the 1Eden area within the triangle of truth.

I see many commonalities here and its all comes from these countries.

In the following video he speaks of a faction from Christianity that joins the Mehdi army.

To me this may point to this journey where this stand alone truth unites Islamic people and Christianity alike. Ive said this before. But I dont think its a physical battle but a spiritual battle of enlightenment that change the minds of people and circumstance. Where the message of the truth vanquishes false ideas like terrorism and other spiritual and physical illegal acts.

I think the truth is spiritual and physical. Its a battle of truth that comes from an independent source like Paradise in the middle of two religions that forms a unity where Christians and Islamic join the army of truth and do conquer through enlightenment and truth and dont go to war physically.

That's my thought

     http://www.youtube.com/v/6Ea4iz1i3fo&hl=en     

Interesting videos though and many clues that I feel verify the journey!

Personaly, I think the Mehdi is a person who embraces the Urantia Book and all the Books of religion in finding the ultimate truth and Seventh Mystery through discovery and truth.

Thats my view whilst on the journey to the places of the Ancients.

And here is the characteristics of the Last Mehdi

Interesting!

     http://www.youtube.com/v/WoIFeTwUQhs&hl=en     


and another Video which I thought interesting to!

     http://www.youtube.com/v/8tNjI44s1S0&hl=en     

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« Reply #81 on: May 05, 2008, 03:03:59 pm »

The interesting thing about the above post is that the 2 main religions believe that there is an End Times but I feel the truth will come about the end times and that will be the truth and the right version in the outcome.

I think both religions have the keys to the truth and the keys in the out work will be the correction in the actual reality and that will be the truth for both religions in the unity of truth.

Remember the origins of Islam ultimately comes from Abner with the Seventy of the ex John the Baptist followers.  And Jesus will honor the truth in there books to.  But I feel its a spiritual outwork in reality rather than war, a physical war.

I believe its just the truth displaceing error in the interpretation and I feel the ultimate truth will come from an independent source and is related to both religions and touches the heart of both religions in the spiritual.

About Rome being overcome, I believe the Catholic church through there investigation will recognise the truth.  thats all it is a realisation not war in the sense of a physical war!  I believe its through the truth that the church will be overcome where truth meets symbol.

I believe thats all it is!  Spiritual realisation of the times and places of the ancients of our past world linked to today in discovery.  The demonstration!

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« Reply #82 on: May 06, 2008, 08:16:07 pm »

Hey Elmer, my brother

Guess what!

Im excited all of a sudden there maybe a financial backer who is interested in funding an expedition to Dalamatia City.

Praise the Lord.

You know I have creditors that are simply not paying there bill and after a sleepless night tossing and turning thinking about everything I was feeling very stressed, downtrodden and broke. Just no sleep!

This morning I spoke to a friend of mine returning a phone call and explained what I was doing in regards to the ancient places and low and behold interest and who has the funds.

We might very well get there to prove the case of the Father in the Kingdom of Heaven.

Praise the Lord, I love the Lord God almighty!

Now the real test of everything that I've been saying begins. Thank the Lord and the beautiful Sevenfold mission.
Praise the Lord!

I cant help praising the Father of Paradise and the Universal Government of the Ancients of Days and especialy Jesus my friend and saviour.

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« Reply #83 on: May 07, 2008, 09:44:47 pm »

I found this timeline thing interesting relating to the word  Iran .

The recording of the Urantia Book as I understand finished in1934 ...right!

Here are references to the word Iran in the Urantia Book.

         http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimpse/webglimpse/usr/local/www/data/papers?query=iran         

and here is word search on Persia.

         http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimpse/webglimpse/usr/local/www/data/papers?query=Persia   

and the keyword Persian

 http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimpse/webglimpse/usr/local/www/data/papers?query=persia&submit=Submit       

and here is the Date when the name Iran was adopted  one year later  after the recording of the Urantia Book.

         
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The country has always been known to its own people as Iran (land of the Aryans),  although for centuries it was referred to as Persia  (Pars or Fars, a province in southern Iran) by the Europeans, mainly due to the writings of Greek historians.  In 1935 the Government specified that it should be called Iran; however, in 1949 they allowed both names to be used.

      http://www.artarena.force9.co.uk/history.html
       
Dont you find it curious that after the urantia book was recorded the Nation of Persian one year later officialy called themselves Iran.

I find that an interesting demonstration also the Urantia book uses both words Persian and Iran.

and look at this interesting Iranian proverb in relation to the journey to the ancient places.

   
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"History is a mirror of the past
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                    http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2008/may/05/archaeology.art                   

How fascinating Ishtar.

The symbol appears to be a diamond with a central circle and 4 circles surrounding within the diamond.

Anyway that you look at it, it forms the familiar co planar circles.

Unreal to me has all the features of this journey! Maybe the queen is reading these posts ahahahahahah!

I tell you what, it would be interesting for her if she did and became involved personally! and it would be so intriguing for her that I feel she would be inspired actually.

They were amazing links. Pity there wasn't a top view! so we could see the whole symbol from above.

Thanks Ishtar and thanks for the support in your wisdom about not worrying.

Right on!!!!

Oh by the way, the circles seem concentric as well.

Each circle in metaphor is like the 5 ancient places of truth within the triangle of truth.  Like a the 5 sided pyramid where each side is the story of each city that forms a oneness in truth, discovery and verification.

Extending outside the triangle are more circles on each side. Again, anyway that you look at it the circles again forms the 3 co planar circles which are also concentric as same as the inner triangle circles.

The tree of Life symbol.

Amazing!

Its a real truth carpet!

The symbols of Universal Government in the halls of Power in England. Incredible! 

That people walked over ahahahah! That would be right! ahaha Now the truth arises and respect is given to the symbols, like a preparation?? without realizing it perhaps or perhaps in knowledge of this journey?? Who knows!

Hey all comes from the Land of Brittany, the Younger, Victor the younger from The land of Britiany which can mean the former colony of Britian or the Land of Sinim! or the Land of Sevens.

More goals for the Paradise Sevens scoreboard!

Yeah!!!!! ahahahahaha

Note the face of the Altar, the 3 co planar circles well almost circles but still 3 co planar!

Sinim: means South country  but the message comes from the far East from the Sons of Israel, the spirit Israel of brotherhood and unity of all man.  That's what the true Israel is.

Here is an interesting link to Sinim, the land of Sinim connected to Australia and the Bible codes.  Wow!!

     http://www.britam.org/Tribesman/CodesAustralia.htm   
   
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a fragment

Then we have intersecting the name AUSTRALIA the expression  "BY WHOM SHALL JACOB ARISE? FOR HE IS SMALL"  (Amos 7:5).

and another fragment

 http://www.britam.org/Questions/QuesAustralia.html
Australia was the first nation in the world to vote in the UN in recognition of the State of Israel. Australia is the Land of Sinim from which a portion of the Lost Ten Tribes will return (Isaiah 49:12). Did the Ancient Egyptians and Phoenicians Visit Australia? Did Australia Help Liberate the Holy Land of Israel?
   
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« Reply #85 on: May 12, 2008, 05:21:46 am »

I just found this browsing the Seventh Mystery on the web.

I think below chapter is a complete description of the Journey to the ancient places.  I believe it related to this journey.

I just found this.

I am amazed and I think its an excellent confirmation.

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http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/ps/index.htm

   PISTIS SOPHIA
tr. by G.R.S. Mead
[1921]

   http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/ps/ps091.htm   

This is G.R.S. Mead's translation of  the Pistis Sophia, the most extensive Gnostic scripture  available until the discovery of Nag Hammadi texts in 1945.Any way I found this fragment from a Seventh Mystery keyword search.

     CHAPTER 86
And Jesus answered and said unto Mary: "Finely indeed dost thou question concerning all with precision and certainty. But hearken, Mary, that  I may speak with thee about the consummation of the ĉon and the ascension of the universe.  It will not yet take place; but I have said unto you:  'If I lead you into the region of the inheritances of those who shall receive the mystery of the Light,  |189. then will the  Treasury of the Light, the region of the emanations, count for you as a speck of dust only and as the light of the sun by day.'

"I have therefore said: 'This will take place

p. 160

Of the twelve saviours and their regions in the Inheritance.at the time of the consummation [and] of the ascension of the universe.'  The twelve saviours of the Treasury and the twelve orders of every one of them, which are the emanations of the seven Voices and of the five Trees, they will be with me in the region of the inheritances of the Light; being kings with me in my kingdom, and every one of them being king over his emanations, and moreover every one of them being king according to his glory, the great according to his greatness and the little according to his littleness.

"And the saviour of the emanations of the first Voice will be in the region of the souls of those who have received the first mystery of the First Mystery in my kingdom.

"And the saviour of the emanations of the second Voice will be in the region of the souls of those who have received the second mystery of the First Mystery.

"In like manner also will the saviour of the emanations of the third Voice be in the region of the souls of those who have received the third mystery of the First Mystery in the E inheritances of the Light.

"And the saviour of the emanations of the fourth Voice of the Treasury of the Light will be in the region of the souls of those who have received the fourth mystery of the First Mystery in the inheritances of the Light.

"And the fifth saviour of the fifth Voice of the Treasury of the Light will be in the region of the souls of those who have received the fifth mystery of the First Mystery in the inheritances of the Light.

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"And the sixth saviour of the emanations of the sixth Voice of the Treasury of the Light will be in the region of the souls of those who have received the sixth mystery of the First Mystery.

"And the seventh saviour of the emanations of the seventh Voice of the Treasury of the Light will be in the region of the souls of those who have received the seventh mystery of the First Mystery in the Treasury [sic] of the Light.

  "And the eighth saviour, that is the saviour of the emanations of the first Tree of the Treasury of the Light, will be in the region of the souls of those who have received the I eighth mystery of the First Mystery in the inheritances of the Light.


"And the ninth saviour, that is the saviour of the emanations of the second Tree of the Treasury of the Light, will be in the region of the souls of those who have received the ninth mystery of the First Mystery in the inheritances of the Light.

"And the tenth saviour, that is the saviour of the emanations of the third Tree of the Treasury of the Light, will be in the region of the souls of those who have received the tenth mystery of the First Mystery in the inheritances of the Light.

"In like manner also the eleventh saviour, that is the saviour of the fourth Tree of the Treasury of the Light, will be in the region of the souls of those who have received the eleventh mystery of  the First Mystery in the inheritances of the Light.

"And the twelfth saviour, that is the saviour of the emanations of the fifth Tree of the Treasury of the Light, will be in the region of the souls of those who have received the twelfth mystery of the First Mystery in the inheritances of the Light.

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 Of the ascension of those of the Treasury into the Inheritance." And the seven |192. Amēns and  the five Trees  and the three Amēns will be on my right, being kings in the inheritances of the Light.  And the Twin-saviours, that is the Child of the Child,  and the nine guards will bide also at my left,  being kings in the inheritances of the Light. 

 "And the nine guards of the Treasury of the Light will be superior to the saviours in the inheritances of the Light. Of their respective ranks in the kingdom."And every one of the saviours will rule over the orders of his emanations in the inheritances of the Light as they did also in the Treasury of the Light.


"And the nine guards of the Treasury of the Light will be superior to the saviours in the inheritances of the Light. And the Twin-saviours will be superior to the nine guards in the kingdom. And the three Amēns will be superior to the Twin-saviours in the kingdom. And the five Trees will be superior to the three Amēns in the inheritances of the Light.

Of the powers of the Right, and their emanation and ascension ."And Yew and the guard of the veil of the Great Light, and the receiver of Light and the two great guides and the great Sabaōth, the Good, will be kings in the first saviour of the first Voice of the Treasury of the Light,   [the saviour] who will be in |193. the region of those who have received the first mystery of the First Mystery. For in sooth Yew and the guard of the region of those of the Right and  Melchisedec,  the great receiver of the Light, and the two great guides have come forth out of the purified and utterly pure light of the first Tree up to the fifth.

"Yew in sooth is the overseer of the Light, who hath come forth first out of the pure light of the first Tree; on the other hand the guard of the veil of those of the Right hath come forth out of the second Tree; and the two guides again

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have come forth out of the pure and utterly purified light of the third and fourth Trees of the Treasury of the Light;  Melchisedec again hath come forth out of the fifth Tree ; on the other hand Sabaōth, the Good, whom I have called my father, hath come forth out of Yew, the overseer of the Light.


Of the powers of the Midst and their ascension ."And the Virgin of Light and the great guide of the Midst, whom the rulers of the ĉons are wont to call the Great Yew after the name of a great ruler who is in their region ,--he and the Virgin of Light and his twelve ministers, from whom ye have received your shape and from whom ye have received the power,  they all will be kings with the first saviour of the first Voice in the region of the souls of those who will receive the first mystery of the First Mystery in the inheritances of the Light.

"And the fifteen helpers of  the  seven  virgins  of the Light who are in the Midst, they will expand themselves in the regions of the twelve saviours,

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and the rest of the angels of the Midst, every one of them according to his glory, will rule with me in the inheritances of the Light. And I shall rule over them all in the inheritances of the Light.

But this shall not take place  till the consummation of the ĉon ."All this then which I have said unto you, will not take place at this time,  but it will take place at the consummation of the ĉon, that is at the ascension of the universe; that is at the dissolution of the universe and at the total ascension of the numbering  |195. of the perfect souls of the inheritances of the Light.

 "Before the consummation, therefore, this which I have said unto you, will not take place, but every one will be in his own region, into which he hath been set  from the beginning,  until the numbering of the ingathering of the perfect souls is completed.

 "The seven Voices and the five Trees and the three Amēns and the Twin-saviours and the nine guards and the twelve saviours  and those of the region of the Right and those of the region of the Midst,  , until the numbering of the  perfect souls of the inheritances of the Light shall be raised up all together. 

"And also all the rulers who have repented, they also will abide in the region into which they have been set, until the numbering of the souls of the Light shall be raised up all together.

Of the ascension of the souls of the perfect."[The souls]  will all come, every one at the time when he will receive the mysteries; and all the rulers who have repented, will pass through and come into the region of the Midst.  seals of their mysteries. And they will pass through those of all the regions of the Midst, and they will pass through the region of the Right and the interior of the region of the nine guards and the interior of the region of the Twin-saviours and the interior of the region of the   And those of the Midst will baptize them and give unto them the spiritual unction and seal them with the

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three |196. Amens and of the twelve saviours and the interior of the five Trees and of  the seven Voices. Every one giveth unto them his seal of his mystery, and they pass into the interior of them all and go to the region of the inheritances of the Light; and every one bideth in the region up to which he hath received mysteries in the inheritances of the Light.
Of the rank of the souls of the perfect."In a word, all the souls of men who shall receive the mysteries of the Light, will precede all the rulers who have repented, and they will precede all those of the region of the Midst and those of the whole region of the Right, and they will precede those of the whole region of the Treasury of the Light.  In a word, they will precede all those of the region [of the Treasury], and they will precede all those of the regions of the first Commandment, and they will pass into the interior of them all and go into the Inheritance of the Light up to the region of their mystery; and every one abideth in the region up to which he hath received mysteries. And those of the region of the Midst and of the Right and those of the whole region of the Treasury, every one abideth in the region of the order into which he hath been set from the beginning on, until the universe shall be raised up. And every one of them accomplisheth his economy to which he hath been set, in respect of the ingathering of the souls who
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have received the mysteries, in respect of this economy, so that they may seal |197. all the souls who will receive the mysteries and who will pass through their interior towards the Inheritance of the Light.


"Now, therefore, Mary, this is the word concerning which thou dost que stion me with precision and certainty.  For the rest now then, who hath ears to hear, let him hear."

Incredible find I am so impressed and everything seem reflected.  Its all about this journey. 

However, it seems quite different to the Bible but there may be many clues to the end times in this book.  I thought chapter 86 was totaly interesting and relevant to this journey.

http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/ps.pdf

Here are some more fragments in the book looking at the keyword mysteries.

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father and mother and come and follow after me, is not worthy of me.' I have, therefore,
said  at that time : Ye are to abandon your parents the rulers,  that I may make you sons of the First Mystery for ever."
   


Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pistis_Sophia

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Pistis Sophia includes quotes from five of the Odes of Solomon, found in chapters between 58 and 71. Pistis Sophia was the only known source for the actual wording of any of the Odes until the discovery of a nearly-complete Syriac text of the Odes in 1909. Because the first part of this text is missing, Pistis Sophia is still the only source for Ode 1.


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More fine work, sevens!  We have to warn these atheists and non-believers that they better shape up because judgment is near! 
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« Reply #87 on: May 17, 2008, 11:41:45 pm »

Hi Elmer how are you?  good to hear from you and thanks for the encouragement.

Yesterday I felt was another great breakthrough.

A friend of Mine sent me a link to the Aquarian Gospel, apparently it was written in the 1800's by

Levi H. Dowling
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levi_H._Dowling
http://spiritlight.com:80/jesus/aquarian1.htm

I hadn't heard of this book and was quite happy to have a look at it.  I started scanning the book using the page search and generally speed reading to see if I could recognize some details of commonalities which I feel I did.

Here is the link
http://forums.atlantisrising.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=20&t=000162&p=14

As I was a few posts down in the book I noticed this verse in amoungst a few with the word Tao.

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25) And Tao Great was One; the One became the Two; the Two became the Three, the Three evolved the Seven, which filled the universe with manifests.

Here is the post

http://forums.atlantisrising.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=20&t=000162&p=14

When I read this word Tao I knew I recognized this before through the Urantia Book as it related to Lao Tze.

I then switched to research into the direction of Tao and its evolution and during the study I found some very interesting connections and parallels that would of not been known in 1934 in the UB record.

Anyway, during all the posts of connecting Lao Tse with the Melchizedeks in the past, I found some interesting information that may lay a path for the Chinese people back to their origins in religion making connection with the Melchizedek truth which makes connection with the Urantia Book and The Bible and all the other books which uplifts the people into the truth filled destiny and which links to Jesus' teachings.

It now becomes more important to go Dalamatia City and verify the place and including all the other places as this could benefit all man, knowing the paths and branches that would help him within his own culture as the truth is embedded in their early books of truth.  All its needs is the right circumstance to prove the matter as we do have the information that create the branches.

Feel free to go through all those posts from yesterday, Im sure you will find them interesting.  It was a wonderful day of just research and being inspired with what I found and came across.  Many lead thoughts would occur to me where I would follow them and find the connection straightaway.  However, Im still looking for the place See Fuch as there was a temple there for 1000 years and it was the headquarters of the Melchizedek missionaries in that time in China around 2500 BC

Its amazing that when you are inspired with finding things of the Lord how much energy you receive in the journey of discovery and confirmation, with a book in one hand and the evidence found on the net.  Truly an inspiring experience!

Its like this Elmer, you get this forethought on a track of a connection, you already know it will be confirmed and know what to look for, for some reason I might do a search when I might see a statement that I resonate to.  Following the voice within, you feel it in your heart and in your mind.  You see the connection in the search and you know it confirms the first thought and then you feel this feeling of love and rejoicing in the Lord!

Its just beautiful journey! and at the end of the day you and the Lord have laid down the seeds that are growing and creating branches and the fruit comes at the verification and the seeds and branches are growing with every post and with every discovery.

That's how I truly see it and it is beyond anything the world can offer, this glorious journey to the ancient places of laying seeds and growing branches with leaves and eventually fruit ready for the harvest.  I believe this journey is the new seed from the storehouses from the treasury of Paradise Sevenfold!


All the best Elmer
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Here is a link about the Melchizedek and his office which is no different to the office of the Messiah as in the DSC.
http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/107/1-3#1

I thought it was interesting!

and here is see through of the Work of John Gill Preacher 1697-1772

The below highlighted precisely points to Dalamatia City, Persian Gulf where the truth comes from and from the 1stEden, Mediterranean Sea the other place where the truth will emanate following the path of the tree of Life in former ages of the wasted places in order to heal the breach.  Also all the components of the current journey to the ancient places is completely reflected in the below.  Excellent discovery! this is a great confirmation of the work of the Office of the Messiah!

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12:4): this will be the time, even in the Philadelphian state, when there will be an open door set, which no man can shut (Rev. 3:Cool; an opportunity of preaching the gospel every where, and which will be taken and used; a wonderful door of utterance will be given to ministers of the word, who will open their mouth freely, and boldly, and with great success. The doctrines of the gospel are the living waters, so called for their refreshing and quickening nature, both to dead sinners and drooping saints, that at this time shall go out of Jerusalem, the church of God; half of them towards the former sea, or the eastern sea, as the Targum; the Persian sea, which lay east of Jerusalem, and so before it: and half of them towards the hinder sea, or the western sea, as the paraphrase; the Mediterranean sea, which lies to the west of Jerusalem, and so behind it; and both denoting the spread of the gospel in the latter day, east and west, for the conversion of the eastern nations in China, Tartary, Persia, &c., and for the conversion of the western nations in Europe; in summer and in winter shall it be (Zech. 14:Cool. These waters will be ever flowing, these doctrines will be constantly preaching; nor will the ministry of the word be hindered by any heat of persecution, or by any coldness or indifference to it.


The above is a small fragment of a great study from John Gill.  I also have been reading his Messiah papers and I am very impressed.  Very accurate to this time.

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http://sevenfoldtruth.com/urantia-clues18.htm#Gill

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sevens,

How fare your recent discoveries?  Have you made any revelations that have yet turned you back into the path of the one true God?
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