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« Reply #30 on: March 25, 2008, 09:45:40 am »

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By attaching the same weight to material that God has not sanctioned, you run the risk of offending God, and so, could be one of the many here left behind!  You would be in the company of pornographers, abortionists, liberals and other non-Christians. Surely, you can see that God has designed these rules for all of us to live by for our own good.  By coming up with your own rulings and teachings as you have in the Urantia Book, you run the risk of offending God. Why would God give us the gospels if he did not mean that we should obey them?  Surely, you can see the logic of this. 

Repent, sevens!!  There is only one book that all true believers must believe, and it is the Bible!  Repent before it is too late to save yourself.
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« Reply #31 on: March 25, 2008, 05:53:32 pm »

And why were the apostles given prophecy for the end times because Jesus knew the Church would be distracted with other things.  Why is the Father severe with the church in the end times and why is there a great falling away in the refinement?  in the end times??

I believe the church has some severe lessons to learn in this time, and thats why the church especially will go through refinement in light of truth as prophecied by the Church fathers.

The only way to see if I am right is to verify the ancient places.

If I am wrong then I am wrong I would have to review, if I am right then the church will have something to think about.  I mean something to really think about!!

See you dont know if I am wrong, you have not proved that yet.

The only way to shut me up is to go out there in the Persian Gulf to find truth.

Actually are you sure that you shouldn't be repenting!!  How do you know that I am wrong?

Are you afraid and fearful of new and expanded truth!

One thing for sure I am not the enemy to Christianity nor of the Jewish people, if anything I'm trying to help the people of Christianity and the Jewish people. 

If anything and in real truth,  I should get a medal even though I have a crown given by the Kingdom of Heaven.  But I'm not interested in medals but only the truth.  Because truth is the highest ideal and I do this out of love which does involve team work with the angels.

If all hate the truth, I cant do anything about it, its up to them individually as we are dealing with all things and that includes countries and other connected faiths!

All I can say is what a perplexing journey this is,  that turns every ones spiritual comfort zone upside down to make them think again, a ruffling of the feathers from the Father in Heaven!!

I say ahahahahahahahah this is huge and its only a matter of time where everyones arse is grass if they dont become aware and ignore through judgement of what is happening!

Dont tell me to repent, I suggest you look into your heart and all the evidence and information about the current change and scenario and see how it fits in the end times.

The change is already happening as we speak.

The best thing for you and Christianity is to drop all the judgement and look into the matter properly without reservation and honestly go through the research and honestly share it with the congregation in the sincere way of Jesus. 

No one can be accountable for that high level motive! least of all me!

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« Reply #32 on: March 28, 2008, 07:07:23 pm »

Hey Calvin, why is it when I reply to your posts promptly a week later you reply, is it that when you feel frustrated you come here, on a whim?

Bit of a kick here and there, see if the thing still moves.  You know! Kick here, have a nosey! give it a jab, a poke in the gut, see if the thing is still alive!

Snap! or Flash! meaning rapture

oh the thing is alive!  OH! but what did we miss??

Here is a post on the endtimes that I thought was applicable and remember if this journey is the truth in the final outcome and you are left behind being presumptuous then you would have to be one of the witness of this information and that will be the test.  I stand by my experience in this whole process as I have delivered some runs on the board.  I to, am bold but I walk in total faith like the Father requires with him through the example of Jesus.

You will simply have to spread the word to your congregation of the witness which may highlight a few things about leadership!

And here we are faced with the truth of all things of all ages in front of our face and look at what people do in religion....run for cover!  and thats where the opportunity is missed in the apprehension and the challenge of the the soul at the end from the beginning.

Oh!! well here is the post.

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Hey Jimmy I liked your post.  Yes I believe that the end is coming soon.  The scriptures you use really tells it all

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Matthew 7: 13 – 14
"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."

How true in the above if you view it from rapture point of view.  Just looking at this in relation to the submerged cities and the gates on the website leading to its knowledge. "But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."  The Gates of the City on the website is small and few find it eh!  Hard to find and not many people know about it!!  and this ""But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life"  The gates, road and the city, the road being the branches and path leading to the city and research.  The Gates leading to life, the tree of life!  The gates to the city where the tree of life was once kept back in our ancient History.  All the beginning places and the revealment of them over a few years.?!

and this fragment in the bold

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A day of reckoning is coming, but until then the life and work of the Church must grow and mature with weeds in its midst. Jesus summed it up quite bluntly when He told His first followers that not everyone who called Him 'Lord' would He recognize as His own, but only those who did the Will of God through the regeneration of their minds (Matthew 7, verses 15 through 27; Titus, Chapter 3, verses 1 through 11).

Yes I agree that many will say the name of Jesus but Jesus wont recognize them because they rejected the truth in the first place.  Never looked into the matter and when he means regeneration, spiritual regeneration and that must infer a revelation of the Father and a demonstration of the new expanded Gospel when all things come into fruition.  A record of the journey with discovery and a demonstration in tandem,  in parallel to the journey and thoughts in the document.

One thing for sure I now it will be like in the days of Noah, that for sure, undoubtedly!

There is no doubt about that and everyone will under estimate this at the wrong time because it came from a nothing source in their view only to realize after it has occurred.  You know this could happen right now, tonight, at anytime in the spiritual flux on the planet!  I really believe it will happen that way, in a flash and being a few people disappearing, it will get hushed up in the media and whitewashed but the church will know and all kinds of declarations will come out, like closing ranks of all religions.  But even then people wont know the truth only the few and who are they?? 

Yeah!  who are they I wonder and who are the witnesses then?  eh!  if this record is right and things occur in accordance to the Fathers will.  Who is going to spread the message to the rest of the people.

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If by chance this journey is the final out come then who will be here to verify the ancient places.  This where the ancient places could used for wrong purposes and whoever goes there and discovers it be aware thats all I say.  As you know the discover is not intimate with the journey and there is only one record that can be relied upon.  This record is for Jesus and driven by Jesus and the Holy Spirit and is certainly dedicated to the Father in Paradise as a joint effort of man and the Father working together in the witness of itself that brings forth the fruits from the beginning from the cities. 

Is that enough to unify man and religion no! thats why a demonstration has to occur for it to be complete that all witness.  So they know! and witness! then there will be the missing reported but I dont think it will be many. 

I know it will be the reserve Corp of Destiny that will be gone which numbers over 1000 and increasing.  The ones who know the final scenario and go with faith in the beforehand without having to give anything away except wrong motives would be included.  Those left behind where either too busy and rejected the final outcome and this is reason for the verification of the truth of the matter after the rapture process and this is where religion closes ranks and formulates a new strategy??

I feel that rapture will occur like a Flash/Gone event and possibly associated with a loud thunder clap that you have never ever heard before, it envelopes the whole planet.  But I'm sure no one gets hurt!

Hey, I'm willing to for go the physical discovery of the cities of myself if it helps to get to the truth of the matter and completes the end time scenario.  However, Just remember the first record and trail that was created through all the books of religion including a new book that led to the discovery.

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Matthew 7: 13 – 14
"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."

Isn't that so true in relation to the end times scenario, the entry way to the city of life is a real narrow way barely getting through the gates and its paths and branches just like to the submerged cities and where only a few find it in the end times.  In amongst all that is said in the doctrines of man about the end times only a few find it and believe it and have faith in it in the beforehand!

Only few find it, not many like I have always been saying!

Anyway the raptured will be groomed in heaven for the coming back and for the destiny of mankind after the day of the Lord and the day of the Lord can be over a period of time. The Day of the Lord and its beginning would be signified by rapture!

Yeah!  who are they I wonder and who are the witnesses then?  eh!  if this record is right and things occur in accordance to the Fathers will.  Who is going to spread the message to the rest of the people. 



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"The brotherhood of men is founded on the fatherhood of God. The family of God is derived from the love of God—God is love. God the Father divinely loves his children, all of them. The kingdom of heaven, the divine government, is founded on the fact of divine sovereignty—God is spirit. Since God is spirit, this kingdom is spiritual. The kingdom of heaven is neither material nor merely intellectual; it is a spiritual relationship between God and man.


and this fragment that I just happen to, meant to run over...

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If different religions recognize the spirit sovereignty of God the Father, then will all such religions remain at peace. Only when one religion assumes that it is in some way superior to all others, and that it possesses exclusive authority over other religions, will such a religion presume to be intolerant of other religions or dare to persecute other religious believers. Religious peace—brotherhood—can never exist unless all religions are willing to completely divest themselves of all ecclesiastical authority and fully surrender all concept of spiritual sovereignty. God alone is spirit sovereign. You cannot have equality among religions (religious liberty) without having religious wars unless all religions consent to the transfer of all religious sovereignty to some superhuman level, to God himself. The kingdom of heaven in the hearts of men will create religious unity (not necessarily uniformity) because any and all religious groups composed of such religious believers will be free from all notions of ecclesiastical authority—religious sovereignty. God is spirit, and God gives a fragment of his spirit self to dwell in the heart of man.[/color] Spiritually, all men are equal. The kingdom of heaven is free from castes, classes, social levels, and economic groups. You are all brethren. But the moment you lose sight of the spirit sovereignty of God the Father, some one religion will begin to assert its superiority over other religions; and then, instead of peace on earth and good will among men, there will start dissensions, recriminations, even religious wars, at least wars among religionists.Freewill beings who regard themselves as equals, unless they mutually acknowledge themselves as subject to some supersovereignty, some authority over and above themselves, sooner or later are tempted to try out their ability to gain power and authority over other persons and groups. The concept of equality never brings peace except in the mutual recognition of some overcontrolling influence of supersovereignty." The Urantia Book. 134.4.1[/b]

The above was most revealing and true!  In essence it out lines the spiritual Government of Jesus!  The brotherhood of man and Fatherhood of the Father and simply tells us where we go wrong today!

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« Reply #33 on: March 30, 2008, 05:48:47 am »

sevens,

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Hey Calvin, why is it when I reply to your posts promptly a week later you reply, is it that when you feel frustrated you come here, on a whim?

And here is my answer:

I have tried to lead you in the true ways of the Lord, yet, like your obstinate friend, Absonite, you refuse to see His ways.  So, much like a driver passing by a car wreck, I realize, at last, that there is nothing I can do to alter your current condition.  So, like that driver in the car, I will reluctantly drive away.  I am certain that when you at last meet your maker, you will be made aware of what a great folly it is to follow the words of a false prophet.
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« Reply #34 on: March 30, 2008, 08:13:43 am »

I disagree with you utterly and I say let the Lord be the judge.

Least I show facts and discovery.  Also if I where you I would get your church and prepare for the visitation of the Angona System!!!

This will be our demise particularly for those who reject truth.

This is what rapture is for.  Still remember the standard for rapture.

No judgement!  Listen to the Lords words and learn!

Also now that we have a good idea whats install for us, I would suggest drop all the judgement and worry about your congregation with the truth.  I found this the Christian church never did OK.  Thats because I look at everything with an open mind within my focalisation to the places of the Lord from the Past.  OK!

Is that OK Calvin??  ahahahahahah

All our arses are grass if we don't get our spiritual selves in order and that means not to judge! but instead look at yourself and review!  and that's In light of this impending disaster with the visitation of the Angona System. Nibiru or Planet X.

So get ready man and Calvin, this is the call!

There is utterly no deception here its only me getting on with the job in finding and knowing the mind of the Father.  So now is the time to get the act together and start warning people.

The truth is here and this is the demise we have to look forward to and brought to you by other truthseekers and verified in the Urantia Book and which is also in Revelation in case you don't know ahahahahahahahahah.

No time for silly talk pointing the finger, that's a waste of time, its the time for review Calvin or have you become stiffed necked in light of the truth, the great test for you.

This is the great demise looking right at you in the images and this Angona System will destroy the Babylon System as we know it!!

Now we know why the Father has an escape plan such as rapture! for the faithful and those who embrace truth and nothing but!

And here is the great demise for us all coming at you soon! due 2012 apparently.  There are a number of prophecies from all over the place that pin point 2012 the end of the world as we know it.



False prophet...thats rubbish you dont know what you talking about! I'm no false prophet all I am doing is telling the truth.

Thank you My Father for Rapture of the elect and the faithful.  The great escape the gift for being faithful and truthful in light of truth with sincerity in truth.

This planet is in BIG trouble!  I can see this coming a mile away!  Now I can see the why and who will be saved.  Selfish Arse holes will not be saved in this scenario and reality!  That is for sure! now that our demise is front of us.

Calvin, if you dont get it together in truth you are in BIG trouble! man!

We are face to face with the truth and do we run to the hills or do we embrace with spiritual and physical preparation??  EH!  EH!!

Calvin here is a link that you find interesting and may help you understand.

Terrestial Escape UB Search



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7. Techniques of terrestrial escape. There is fundamentally only one way in which individual human life can be initiated on the inhabited worlds, and that is through creature procreation and natural birth; but there are numerous techniques whereby man escapes his terrestrial status and gains access to the inward moving stream of Paradise ascenders.

Terrestial Escape




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« Reply #35 on: April 06, 2008, 12:01:22 am »

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From what I can see, Calvin is simply trying to turn you back to the true ways of the Lord, you should listen to him!  The Bible is not a buffet, we can not choose for ourselves which teachings we like and which teachings we do not prefer, like the Urantia Book does.  All teachings must be given equal measure.
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« Reply #36 on: April 06, 2008, 01:48:44 am »

I am being guided in equal measure throughout all the scriptures I have nothing to fear for I have the Saviour by my side.  He is guiding me throughout all the books of religion.

I am on the true path of truth.

I am very satisfied with my path.

Calvin will not convince me otherwise as he has his own challenges.

I am ahead of Calvin, if anything Calvin should learn from this.  I have been led to the first cities and are a co discoverer and have documented the journey where it leads me

There is no other journey on the planet, no other that leads to judgement and that reveals all the ancient places in the beforehand.

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« Reply #37 on: April 15, 2008, 12:27:08 am »

By the way the images from NibiruShock2012 are hoax's

Sorry about that.

But in my research I did find strong characteristics of both The Angona System and Nibiru.

In that sense it was a good study.

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« Reply #38 on: April 18, 2008, 07:01:18 am »

Anyway Calvin.

My work is complete, Ive done my job, now it up to the universe.

Whatever happens from this point on just happens.

As far as I'm concerned I dont think I can go any further in this research. Im done!

Its all up to Father now, I let go of this whole journey and release it to the Father in the Kingdom of Heaven.

This servant cannot go any further.

I reckon we live in a very crappy world with many crappy people who talk crap at the end of the day for there own selfish garbage purpose!

See you later world and you will need all you can get to survive this on coming event and I certainly wont be around to help out because this world deserves everything it bloody gets.

I feel this whole journey to the ancient places has been a complete waste of time as no one gives a shiteee anyway!

And we all know that!  Who cares anyway!  typical man ****!

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« Reply #39 on: April 18, 2008, 04:33:59 pm »

Sevens,

Don't you give up!  Humanity is sheep and, like good shepherds, we have to lead them to the path of the straight and narrow.  Sometimes, it's like herding cats, but I have faith that we who are steadfast and true can whip humanity in line.
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« Reply #40 on: April 19, 2008, 03:34:29 pm »

Hey Elmer,  its great to hear from you.

I sorry to you for witnessing my outbursts of anger with bad language, I'm not like Jesus in his perfection in personality.  I truly believe that we are in a real testing time at the moment.  Probably more so on those that explore the truth than those who have no idea.

Its unfortunate that certain people want to shut this work down without them realizing it in there actions.  There attacks on this work indirectly and directly are aimed at vulnerabilities that exist in this work, not so much here but in other places.

Its really on a knife edge and the road is so narrow that I cant move and completely vulnerable and that does include income I suppose.  I'm like a lame duck in the living experience of the Father in the journey to the ancient places.

Honestly this is a battle journey to the first places and it is on all multiple fronts and I sit here scribing in the middle with this.  A battle front over there and this front over here and circumstances everywhere.

Its a test for me for I am no super hero like what they portray in the movies just a normal bloke who loves the Father and wants to do a good job for him in a normal man sense with sincerity.  I have weakness everywhere with only the Lord to rest on.

Elmer I really appreciate your prayers I honestly need help and the Father can provide this.  I rest on his help.

All the best Elmer, it was a blessing to hear from you and thanks for your encouragement.

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« Reply #41 on: April 20, 2008, 12:43:20 am »

Elmer,

We are the Kings men.

I salute and lift up my hand and hail the king! Jesus.

Hail, King Jesus!  Praise the Lord!

With a great shout of the Kings Men we raise our voices in honour to the Lord of the Kingdom of Heaven.

Jesus! YEA! our guide to this massive revealing of the things that are hidden.

There is non other than great Jesus leading us through the Abyss to the end into a new beginning in the destiny of mankind.

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"Thou shalt travel the Seven Paths
Of the Infinite Garden"

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"Yea, I tell thee truly,
The paths are seven
Through the Infinite Garden"

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Jesus papers, The Essenes written by the teacher of righteousness.

Revelation 22:14
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

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« Reply #42 on: April 20, 2008, 09:36:55 am »

The great confirmation and message from the triangle seal from the great Pyramid.

The great Message from The Ancients coming from the smallest place in the worlds largest monument at onetime.
           

The ancient man pointing to the triangle chevron representative of the great triangle City in the Persian Gulf.

Perhaps Maybe this could be the great mystery of the great Pyramid monument.

Could this be the fulfillment of the texts in the Bible relating to the great Pyramid?

If you follow the arm of the ancient man through his body.  It will shape into a Sun in the background.  If you connect that with the circle in the middle of the triangle and then connect the line to the other circle also in the background of the Pyramid you a have the co planar circles.

The little man seems to be in the background of the small second triangle/circle chevron embossed within the larger primary triangle/circle.

The partial concentric circles appears to be in the background of the man.

Its a real ancient multi dimensional picture full of symbolism that embraces the symbolism that underpins this journey to the ancient beginning places.

ahahahahah

Here is a thumbnail so you can see the ancient man.

 


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« Reply #43 on: April 21, 2008, 01:07:21 am »

Here is a very very very interesting calculation of the slope of the great pyramid just found

            http://www.halexandria.org/dward106.htm           
             
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The slope angle is intriguingly similar to   360°/7   = 51.42857142857...°  This similarity is discussed in more detail in Nines.
Some very interesting numbers. 

Remember the universal compass symbol of the triangle and circle symbol and splitting the triangle at each end and then bending inwards by 60 degrees, each 6 ends, then multiply by 60 each end and then you have a 360 degree circle, like a universal compass incorporated in a multi dimensional symbol.

Combine the slope calculation with the triangle and circle chevron symbol(universal compass) and you have a Pyramid.  A fair dinkum pyramid with the correct slope based on the circle divided by 7.

and note the sloping angle of the great pyramid.   "The slope angle is intriguingly similar to    360°/7   = 51.42857142857...°"  Interesting numbers.  Everything about Pyramid could be in symbolism about this journey.  The record in stone revealing itself.

And about the nines.

This is an amazing link and well worth to check out.

    
Nines

           
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vvv The profound implication of all of this is that the Moon is mathematically sized to the Earth,   the choice of 360 degrees in a circle is not arbitrary,  and if we multiply the radius of the Earth (3,960 miles) by 60 (the result of   multiplying the sides of the   3-4-5 triangle, and a nice complement to 360 degrees    ) we obtain 237,600 miles.  Guess how far the Moon is from the Earth!

remember the triangle and circle relationship!
and this

With respect to   the five-pointed star  and internal regular pentagon, one might note that the internal   angles of the pentagon is 108 degrees (3x36), and that 1,080 (3x360) has 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 15, 18, 20, 24, 27, 30, 36, 40, 45, 54, 50, 72,  and many other numbers as factors (i.e. their quotients are integers).  And obviously 1080, 3960, 5040, 7920... all reduce to 9.  Slowly we are beginning to see why geometry means “earth measure”   
http://www.halexandria.org/dward091.htm       

Essentially the great Pyramid is a great big Seven  ahahahahaha.

and this the metal plate found near the shaft

 
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In 1989 it was subjected to scientific analysis. The tests were done by Dr. Jones in the mineral resources engineering department at Imperial College and Dr. El Gayer in the department of petroleum and mining at the Suez University. They utilized both chemical and optical tests. One hypothesis was that the metal may have come from a meteorite. It have been well documented that primitive and stone age peoples have used meteorite iron for implements, etc. They were able to make crude iron implements from the meteorite iron well before the iron age. In fact, wrapped in King Tut's mummy was a dagger made of meteorite iron. How do we know if the iron is from a meteorite or made by man? We can determine this from the iron's nickel content. Meteorite iron has a higher value than the iron found on earth. The analysis of the metal plate yielded the following: "the iron plate from Giza is clearly not of meteoritic origin, since it contains only a trace of nickel". Further analysis revealed that it had traces of gold on its surface, maybe once gold plated. Drs. Jones and Gayer concluded the following:

"It is concluded, on the basis of the present investigation, that the iron plate is very ancient. Furthermore, the metallurgical evidence supports the archeological evidence   which suggests that the plate was incorporated within the pyramid at the time that structure was being built  .
   
http://www.gizapyramid.com/hidden.htm 

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PRAISE TO THE WHITE CROWN:  Hail to thee, that Eye of Horus, the great one,
Â…  when she rises in the eastern horizon.  Thou art the mistress of glorious appearances."


In the Pyramid Texts the white crown is identified with the mother of the deceased:


"I know my mother, I have not forgotten my Mother the White Crown..."
    - Pyramid Texts, utterance 470. 

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19:18 In that day shall five cities in the land of Egypt speak the language of Canaan, and swear to the LORD of hosts; one shall be called,   The city of destruction. 

(What city of destruction? and what are the five cities? could it be representative of the 5 discovered cities of our past?  Is the city of destruction the first city that activates an event? in the revealing!)

19:19   In that day shall there be an altar to the LORD in the midst of the land of Egypt  , and   a pillar at the border  thereof to the LORD.

(Could it be the great pyramid where the great sign is kept?)

19:20   And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the LORD of hosts in the land of Egypt:  for they shall cry unto the LORD because of the oppressors, and   he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them.

(Jesus did visit Egypt and the Iknanton followers did acknowledge Jesus in Egypt for his mission.  And does the above reflect the second coming and is the ancient man pointing to the triangle and circle symbol the great sign with confirmation of the journey?  Symbols that we are completely familiar with in this journey to the ancient places???)

19:21   And the LORD shall be known to Egypt  , and   the Egyptians shall know the LORD in that day,  and shall do sacrifice and oblation; yea, they shall vow a vow unto the LORD, and perform [it].

Very interesting verses.
   
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