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« Reply #105 on: January 18, 2009, 05:22:13 pm »

sevens, I take it from your postings that you are eagerly anticipating the end of the  world, much referencing to dates and things like that.  Am I wrong in that assumption, or do yearn for the world to end?  And, if you do believe it shall end, on  what date do you believe it shall end on?
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« Reply #106 on: January 19, 2009, 12:38:06 pm »

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I believe the birth of Jesus was August 21st 07BC

sevens, how do you figure this date for the birth of Christ?  Even proponents of a date that differs with Christmas put his birthdate in the spring, at best.

Don't you feel that you might be committing a sacrilege by celebrating a different date?
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« Reply #107 on: January 22, 2009, 02:44:05 am »

sevens, I take it from your postings that you are eagerly anticipating the end of the  world, much referencing to dates and things like that.  Am I wrong in that assumption, or do yearn for the world to end?  And, if you do believe it shall end, on  what date do you believe it shall end on?

Calvin, it wont be the end of the world, planet Earth, but I feel that things we see today will pass into a new world of which those of faith and love for one another based on the truth of Jesus will live to rebuild.

I believe a judgment will come to mankind through a judgment broadcast that will emanate from the Judgment Seat from the system headquarters where the 24 elders live and who are seated around the Judgment Seat.

The judgment of the Last Rebel will come followed by his children.

When the judgment broadcast comes the Earth will shake and the mountains will move.

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« Reply #108 on: January 22, 2009, 02:51:15 am »

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I believe the birth of Jesus was August 21st 07BC

sevens, how do you figure this date for the birth of Christ?  Even proponents of a date that differs with Christmas put his birthdate in the spring, at best.

Don't you feel that you might be committing a sacrilege by celebrating a different date?

25th Dec.... Jesus' so called birthday comes from the Mithraic religions before Jesus was born.  Mithra was born on this date.

The Catholic church just switched Mithra's Birthdate to the birth of Jesus when it became Christian.  St Peters Basilica was a Mithra temple before it became Christian.

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The Urantia Book

The adherents of this cult worshiped in caves and other secret places, chanting hymns, mumbling magic, eating the flesh of the sacrificial animals, and drinking the blood. Three times a day they worshiped, with special weekly ceremonials on the day of the sun-god and with the most elaborate observance of all on the annual festival of Mithras, December twenty-fifth. It was believed that the partaking of the sacrament ensured eternal life, the immediate passing, after death, to the bosom of Mithras, there to tarry in bliss until the judgment day. On the judgment day the Mithraic keys of heaven would unlock the gates of Paradise for the reception of the faithful; whereupon all the unbaptized of the living and the dead would be annihilated upon the return of Mithras to earth. It was taught that, when a man died, he went before Mithras for judgment, and that at the end of the world Mithras would summon all the dead from their graves to face the last judgment. The wicked would be destroyed by fire, and the righteous would reign with Mithras forever

http://mercy.urantia.org/papers/paper98.html

Sounds like the Doctrine and Dogma of Christianity would you say.  Emanating out of Mithra.

Christianity should really review itself and its origins of its Doctrines and Dogmas. I can see where the compromises of Paul lay in his making of his brand of Christianity more acceptable to the Mithra congregation. The same things that Christianity has inherited to day in there presentation today.

This is precisely why much Christian Doctrine and Dogma thoughts can be wrong.  Because it, in truth came from Mithra and the Mithra thought is a degeneration of the truth....ultimately, going back in time. "This sun-god, or Sol Invictus, was a degeneration of the Ahura-Mazda deity concept of Zoroastrianism"  Christianity in theology have big roots in Zoroastrianism going back 600BC.  Now you know where the notion of Hell came from and Good and Evil and the doctrine of Judgment and the Saviour!  The intercessor and so forth!


7. THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION
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3. The Zoroastrian conception of the struggle between cosmic good and evil, which had already left its imprint on both Judaism and Mithraism. Through prolonged contact attendant upon the struggles between Mithraism and Christianity, the doctrines of the Iranian prophet became a potent factor in determining the theologic and philosophic cast and structure of the dogmas, tenets, and cosmology of the Hellenized and Latinized versions of the teachings of Jesus.

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4. The mystery cults, especially Mithraism but also the worship of the Great Mother in the Phrygian cult. Even the legends of the birth of Jesus on Urantia became tainted with the Roman version of the miraculous birth of the Iranian savior-hero, Mithras, whose advent on earth was supposed to have been witnessed by only a handful of gift-bearing shepherds who had been informed of this impending event by angels.

All food for thought and reflection for Chrsitianity to know the truth of there Origins of Faith and time for correction.

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6.The personal viewpoint of Paul of Tarsus. And it should be recorded that Mithraism was the dominant religion of Tarsus during his adolescence. Paul little dreamed that his well-intentioned letters to his converts would someday be regarded by still later Christians as the "word of God."    Such well-meaning teachers must not be held accountable for the use made of their writings by later-day successors .

There is no escape from this post except for denial.  But would that be denying the Holy Spirit in light of the truth???

Like I said there is no escape from truth in this post regarding much of the Doctrine and Dogmas of Christianity!! including all there wild, wayward doctrines upon doctrine upon Dogma institutions including all there evolutionary rituals and so forth.

This is the plummet line of truth!  being layed down!

And the real hard truth about the religion of Christianity today in its portrayal

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As the original teachings of Jesus penetrated the Occident, they became Occidentalized, and as they became Occidentalized, they began to lose their potentially universal appeal to all races and kinds of men. Christianity, today, has become a religion well adapted to the social, economic, and political mores of the white races. It has long since ceased to be the religion of Jesus, although it still valiantly portrays a beautiful religion about Jesus to such individuals as sincerely seek to follow in the way of its teaching. It has glorified Jesus as the Christ, the Messianic anointed one from God, but has largely forgotten the Master's personal gospel: the Fatherhood of God and the universal brotherhood of all men

It has long since ceased to be the religion of Jesus,

but has largely forgotten the Master's personal gospel: the Fatherhood of God and the universal brotherhood of all men

Gee Christianity should be in full humbled repentance right now!!

But there to arrogant to look at themselves.  To self blinded and self absorbed with there Mithra Dogma and Christmas Presents.

In this case who is doing the sacrilege

Not me but those of the Christian/Mithra Faith!!!!! in actual truth!!!

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« Reply #109 on: January 22, 2009, 02:57:07 am »

Calvin and 12 Apostles.

There is much going and much progress has been made.

Just be aware because I think Judgment is close.

Im not going by dates anymore but on each date Ive always mentioned I have always discovered something very significant in the journey to the ancient places.

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« Reply #110 on: January 22, 2009, 06:25:49 am »

Jesus confirms a day of judgment.

Its definitely in the cards and it will come.  Its written and confirmed by Jesus himself, he will do the judgment of Mankind.

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line 125: Then, speaking to all the disciples, he said: "You have heard how many cities and villages have received the good news of the kingdom, and how my ministers and teachers have been received by both the Jew and the gentile. And blessed indeed are these communities which have elected to believe the gospel of the kingdom. But woe upon the light-rejecting inhabitants of Chorazin, Bethsaida-Julias, and Capernaum, the cities which did not well receive these messengers. I declare that, if the mighty works done in these places had been done in Tyre and Sidon, the people of these so-called heathen cities would have long since repented in sackcloth and ashes. It shall indeed be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon in the day of judgment."

line 96: To another standing near by who asked Jesus how the wealthy would stand in the day of judgment, he replied: "I have come to judge neither the rich nor the poor, but the lives men live will sit in judgment on all. Whatever else may concern the wealthy in the judgment, at least three questions must be answered by all who acquire great wealth, and these questions are:

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" 1. How much wealth did you accumulate?

"2. How did you get this wealth?

"3. How did you use your wealth?"
 

In other words how selfish where you???

Be very prepared and question yourself about the things that may be in deliberate willful error.

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# line 379: 2. Sleeping Survivors. All mortals of survival status, in the custody of personal guardians of destiny, pass through the portals of natural death and, on the third period, personalize on the mansion worlds. Those accredited beings who have, for any reason, been unable to attain that level of intelligence mastery and endowment of spirituality which would entitle them to personal guardians, cannot thus immediately and directly go to the mansion worlds. Such surviving souls must rest in unconscious sleep until the judgment day of a new epoch, a new dispensation, the coming of a Son of God to call the rolls of the age and adjudicate the realm, and this is the general practice throughout all Nebadon. It was said of Christ Michael that, when he ascended on high at the conclusion of his work on earth, "He led a great multitude of captives." And these captives were the sleeping survivors from the days of Adam to the day of the Master's resurrection on Urantia.

Judgment is on because Jesus my friend says so!!!!!

So everyone better get ready and no mucking around.

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« Reply #111 on: January 23, 2009, 12:38:14 pm »

Whilst everything is suddenly all quite on this thread while 12 Apostles and Calvin Noble are picking themselves of the floor.  Thinking how can I respond to all of the above.

I suppose Christianity and its individuals who make profit out of the religion about Jesus, have to ask themselves.  How they accumulated there wealth? and was it through using the Religion itself used as a cash cow!!!!!!!! spreading fear and anxiety to fear people through doctrine.  What was the ultimate motive deep in the heart?? Was it for survival or profit or was it out of a genuine interest to spread the word?

All these questions are things that a Christian who profits from the religion about Jesus have to ask themselves.

This includes you Calvin, you make money out of religion using the doctrines of the Church upon others with superiority and dominance.

These 3 questions alone asked by Jesus when he comes to judge will be the reckoning of the current Christian religion about Jesus and it will purge Christianity in truth from the heart.

Christianity is not safe for those who indulge in it by using religion as a weapon and then to fill the coffers.

This will be the very hard truth for many Christians who use the religion about Jesus as a cash cow spreading false doctrine through the compromises of the past and who avoid this truth like the plague!

Because it is true and we all know this.

All the social programs of religion are all of sudden shallow and does not explore the real truth of the religion of Jesus, the one he portrayed and lived in truth and in action.

I suppose I face this delimma to regarding this journey.  I dont make money out it but I know it will take money to explore these places along with a presentation.  This is why I gave out all the information freely as it happened not to be tempted to keep this knowledge away from man for a few lousy rotten bucks.  But anyway all Im saying is that we all have to review our motives in money and Christianity.

Personaly I have needs and this project has real needs to but how do you do it without the money thing??

Wait for judgment while this journey continues but meanwhile it struggles.

I dont know, the money thing has always been a dilemma for me because I want this journey to be pure and not tainted with the money/profit motivation in its ugliness.  Besides that its a personal project of Jesus, the Sovereign which should have the ultimate respect and fidelity.

Believe me, this project in full flight would well exceed more than a billion dollars in the box office. Easily! without a doubt! But its that money profit motivation thing that rears its head and the origins of the project that has to be considered being a Universal/Planetary project. 

Regarding the purity of this project I would hate it to be tainted by the money power hungry hands of Hollywood and all the BS that occurs being a constant money chase, always for reward and profit which includes all false smiles, insincerity and falsity knowing there thoughts are quite different and apart always seeking the strategic advantage. Nothing else matters except profit and advantage over others!!  That place Hollywood is rotten to the core in all their motives!

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« Reply #112 on: January 23, 2009, 03:18:11 pm »

Well Ive been thinking about this project and where to go.

It could be that judgment is with us soon or maybe Judgment is postponed as Father wants me and a crew to go and do a expedition/s to Dalamatia City to prove the matter in the verification. Perhaps he wants me to verify all I have said on these threads in the demonstration.

Maybe the Father wants me to go through this experience as a learning experience of faith and trust in him and his guidance. To go out in the physical experience and see for myself, to live what I have been saying.   We know we have discovered the location of the first city spiritually and in the research but now the father wants to take us there....himself and with all the Angels.

Well if that is to happen, funds have to be raised for a project like this. This fundraising exercise would have to provide an opportunity for all to become part of the project.

Like the raising funds in the production of the UB, funds received by the project have to encompass all man in the opportunity of faith and not by one entity funding it. Its a Jesus/mankind project.

The fund could run by an association but there will be one person signing the cheques as I have seen to many accountants rip off companies to its death knell and I dont trust very many people with money as they dont have Jesus in their hearts and are susceptible to temptation of theft and all the other ugly things that come with it.

I suppose the fund would have to accumulate funds until its ready to fully finance a 2 week expedition with all the facilities available including the production and with all the permissions.

The fund would have certain investment levels to cater for the larger and smaller investor offering a standard return which would be based on scale dependant on the receipts in the Box office.  Equal return, equal opportunity.

I was thinking the highest return would be 100% return on a scale, why not. Double the investment in the best circumstances.

I was thinking that the project would have 3 main components.

The current project, future expeditions and a social program.

The current project would involve current production and expedition to Dalamatia City and an 3rd expedition to 1stEden to firm up the other anomalies that can be seen and do match to what is written in the Urantia Book. The production and presentation would be a joint presentation of 2 cities running down through the timeline in truth and the presenting the evidence. The Van highland can also be included and much information has already been gifted to the brothers of Shirvan to go and have look in the initial phase to see if the anomalies to actually exist.

Really speaking the presentation will about the Journey of the Tree of life through 3 locations, 2 submerged and one above water. In effect it could be about the adventures of Van and Amadon throughout the ages walking through the location of the ages.

Why Robert Sarmast could go to 1stEden in a 3rd expedition and I myself to Dalamatia City virtualy simultaneously and both to Van highland...maybe perhaps!!  Any combination could work.  The pres would be about the past, present and future destiny.

The presentation in Hindu prophecy would be the Tipura where the 3 cities of truth become one in the presentation and as we walk through these cities.

I would say that would be the main presentation, the presentation of the 3 cities and the journey to them knowing that the on the run document of the journey is available for all to read for free at all times.  Seeing it in the manifestation as it happened!

I believe the receipt from this in the Box office would be massive which would provide funds for the 2 other component funds.

Once all is fulfilled with the investors and associated production companies the rest of the receipts can be channeled into the future expeditions fund where monies are accumulated for future expeditions and presentations such as a 2 week expedition to Dilmun and the Tower of Babel and perhaps an expedition to 1stSusa and highlight the ancient Andite paths even to South America and through to the Great Pyramid  to the ancient man on the plug following the symbols.

Simultaneously, monies can be channeled to fund a social program such as the Free School idea where the poor are taught the basics of civilisation for free and where the older teach the younger throughout the world raising the spirit of Dalamatia City in its original function.  Also I would like open an Sevenfold institute of learning and research where all the books of religion are blended together in research and study and guided by the UB information, a place where individual religionists can study freely in an open environment and seek out the truth of the matter.  Also I would finance all the translations of the UB book.

In all the while investment can also be made to produce free energy devices for poor civilizations in order to create food, have clean water and have shelter with free energy.

As for me I want to pay of debt, secure the bunker, continue the on the run research and go to all these places through expeditions and verify the truth before the advent of judgment, if it comes to pass in our day.

It is a good experience to live by faith without any security relying on the Father.  It is a good thing for any to man at least once on his life to go through an experience like that, to live by faith and with the Angels in faith.  However, in this journey things will have to change in order to fulfill the ultimate goal of this journey in the physical as I am unable to do anything at this stage.

If judgment is to be postponed or put back until this journey is fully fulfilled then things have to move rapidly in this direction of fulfilling in the physical. 

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« Reply #113 on: January 27, 2009, 12:44:38 am »

sevens, does 2012 mean anything in the dates of the Urantia Book as it does everywhere else? The Mayans, the Bible Code and Nostradamus all seem to place much significance on December 21st, 2012 as the end of the world!   Smiley
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« Reply #114 on: February 10, 2009, 09:37:54 pm »

Hi I havent seen anything in the Urantia Book regarding 2012. 

But Im sure something is close

Here is the 50 day view at the apexs of the timeline of the Magnetars

A platform for demomstration of truth.



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http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/MagnetarBurach2.htm

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« Reply #115 on: February 13, 2009, 04:28:27 am »

Here is an expansion of the Shabbes Sevenfold timeline in accordance to the adventures of Magnetar!



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« Reply #116 on: February 13, 2009, 04:29:11 am »

A further evolution



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Enlargement
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« Reply #117 on: February 14, 2009, 03:49:39 am »

A further evolution

   

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Enlargement
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« Reply #118 on: February 14, 2009, 07:32:50 am »

This whole chapter has many reoccurances of BADE

I think Jesus is speaking about right NOW being one of the messages through Magnetar.

Remember pre the coming is a journey of Faith.

4 reoccurances of the word BADE and 6 reoccurances of BIDDEN all from Jesus in one sitting.  He was describing precisely the junction I believe we are in now!  Hint!

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Jesus Heals the Man Who Had Dropsy
14And it came to pass, as he went into the house of one of the chief Pharisees to eat bread on the sabbath day, that they watched him. 2 And, behold, there was a certain man before him which had the dropsy. 3 And Jesus answering spake unto the lawyers and Pharisees, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath day? 4 And they held their peace. And he took him, and healed him, and let him go; 5 And answered them, saying, Which of you shall have an ass or an ox fallen into a pit, and will not straightway pull him out on the sabbath day? 6 And they could not answer him again to these things.

A Lesson to Guests and a Host
7 And he put forth a parable to those which were bidden, when he marked how they chose out the chief rooms; saying unto them, 8 When thou art bidden of any man to a wedding, sit not down in the highest room; lest a more honourable man than thou be bidden of him; 9 And he that bade thee and him come and say to thee, Give this man place; and thou begin with shame to take the lowest room. 10 But when thou art bidden, go and sit down in the lowest room; that when he that bade thee cometh, he may say unto thee, Friend, go up higher: then shalt thou have worship in the presence of them that sit at meat with thee. 11 For whosoever exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted. 12 Then said he also to him that bade him, When thou makest a dinner or a supper, call not thy friends, nor thy brethren, neither thy kinsmen, nor thy rich neighbours; lest they also bid thee again, and a recompence be made thee. 13 But when thou makest a feast, call the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind: 14 And thou shalt be blessed; for they cannot recompense thee: for thou shalt be recompensed at the resurrection of the just.

The Parable of the Great Supper
15 And when one of them that sat at meat with him heard these things, he said unto him, Blessed is he that shall eat bread in the kingdom of God. 16 Then said he unto him, A certain man made a great supper, and bade many: 17 And sent his servant at supper time to say to them that were bidden, Come; for all things are now ready. 18 And they all with one consent began to make excuse. The first said unto him, I have bought a piece of ground, and I must needs go and see it: I pray thee have me excused. 19 And another said, I have bought five yoke of oxen, and I go to prove them: I pray thee have me excused. 20 And another said, I have married a wife, and therefore I cannot come. 21 So that servant came, and shewed his lord these things. Then the master of the house being angry said to his servant, Go out quickly into the streets and lanes of the city, and bring in hither the poor, and the maimed, and the halt, and the blind. 22 And the servant said, Lord, it is done as thou hast commanded, and yet there is room. 23 And the lord said unto the servant, Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled. 24 For I say unto you, That none of those men which were bidden shall taste of my supper.

The Cost of Discipleship
25 And there went great multitudes with him: and he turned, and said unto them, 26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. 27 And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple. 28 For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, and counteth the cost, whether he have sufficient to finish it? 29 Lest haply, after he hath laid the foundation, and is not able to finish it, all that behold it begin to mock him, 30 Saying, This man began to build, and was not able to finish. 31 Or what king, going to make war against another king, sitteth not down first, and consulteth whether he be able with ten thousand to meet him that cometh against him with twenty thousand? 32 Or else, while the other is yet a great way off, he sendeth an ambassage, and desireth conditions of peace. 33 So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple. 34 Salt is good: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be seasoned? 35 It is neither fit for the land, nor yet for the dunghill; but men cast it out. He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.

http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q=Luke+14&ver=kjv


Completely relevant to our times in this instant.

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« Reply #119 on: February 14, 2009, 08:25:34 pm »

Now BADEand Bidden counted 11 times in the feast chapter is related to another message that came through related to Bade and Bidden is AB

Ab is related to "From the beginning"

Here is a study about the the beginning and how it relates to today and how it fits in to this current journey.

BADE, BIDDEN and from the BEGINNINGare all related like a glove.

Here in the following are references of "the end from the beginning" in the Urantia Book and who its related to.

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PAPER 6 - THE ETERNAL SON, Oct 19 2000

line 80: The Original Son is universally and spiritually self-conscious. In wisdom the Son is the full equal of the Father. In the realms of knowledge, omniscience, we cannot distinguish between the First and Second Sources; like the Father, the Son knows all; he is never surprised by any universe event; he comprehends the end from the beginning.


PAPER 2 - THE NATURE OF GOD, Oct 19 2000

line 40:           The Father constantly and unfailingly meets the need of the differential of demand for himself as it changes from time to time in various sections of his master universe. The great God knows and understands himself; he is infinitely self-conscious of all his primal attributes of perfection. God is not a cosmic accident; neither is he a universe experimenter. The Universe Sovereigns may engage in adventure; the Constellation Fathers may experiment; the system heads may practice; but the Universal Father sees the end from the beginning, and his divine plan and eternal purpose actually embrace and comprehend all the experiments and all the adventures of all his subordinates in every world, system, and constellation in every universe of his vast domains.


line 55:           Even your olden prophets understood the eternal, never-beginning, never-ending, circular nature of the Universal Father. God is literally and eternally present in his universe of universes. He inhabits the present moment with all his absolute majesty and eternal greatness. "The Father has life in himself, and this life is eternal life." Throughout the eternal ages it has been the Father who "gives to all life." There is infinite perfection in the divine integrity. "I am the Lord; I change not." Our knowledge of the universe of universes discloses not only that he is the Father of lights, but also that in his conduct of interplanetary affairs there "is no variableness neither shadow of changing." He "declares the end from the beginning." He says: "My counsel shall stand; I will do all my pleasures" "according to the eternal purpose which I purposed in my Son." Thus are the plans and purposes of the First Source and Center like himself: eternal, perfect, and forever changeless.

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PAPER 141 - BEGINNING THE PUBLIC WORK, Oct 19 2000

line 124: James was astonished at how Jesus seemed to see the end from the beginning. The Master rarely appeared to be surprised. He was never excited, vexed, or disconcerted. He never apologized to any man. He was at times saddened, but never discouraged.

This journey to the ancient places is about the End from the Beginning, Dalamatia City City is about the Beginning, the first place where the first desolation occurred and I believe its about the End from the Beginning, Truth victorious over untruth from the beginning which means the end of the last rebel and judgment before the 1000 year reign before we receive our first translation temple.

Praise the Lord!

The End from the Beginning!

I believe this journey is part of the ministry of the Jesus and Melchizedek because its an exploration into the beginning of everything on this planet in parallel with prophecy relating to wasted cities and the correction of truth in verification.

In the bible there are references to "the End from the Beginning"

http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q=the+end+from+the+beginning&ver=kjv

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the end from the beginning   (King James Version)

Deuteronomy 11:12   
A land which the Lord thy God careth for: the eyes of the Lord thy God are always upon it, from the beginning of the year even unto the end of the year.


Psalm 119:160 
Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever.


Ecclesiastes 3:11
He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end.


Isaiah 46:10

Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

(like in this journey back to ancient times declaring "the end from the beginning" which brings us to the present in prophecy
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Now outside the Bible and the Urantia Book there are also additional references to the end from the beginning.

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GThom 1
And he said, "Whoever discovers the interpretation of these sayings will not taste death."
(implies rapture)

and here is another intersecting parallel from the Book of Thomas.

"Tell us how our end will be." Jesus said, "Have you discovered, then, the beginning, that you look for the end?  For where the beginning is, there will the end be. Blessed is he who will take his place in the beginning; he will know the end and will not experience death,
"

Again reflections of this journey to the ancient places with all the characteristics of the end from the beginning.

You find the same reference in the Mormon Book of Abraham

http://scriptures.lds.org/abr/2/8#8

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7 For I am the Lord thy God; I dwell in heaven; the earth is my footstool; I stretch my hand over the sea, and it obeys my voice; I cause the wind and the fire to be my chariot; I say to the mountains—Depart hence—and behold, they are taken away by a whirlwind, in an instant, suddenly.

  8 My name is Jehovah, and I know the end from the beginning; therefore my hand shall be over thee.

  9 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee above measure, and make thy name great among all nations, and thou shalt be a blessing unto thy seed after thee, that in their hands they shall bear this ministry and Priesthood unto all nations
;

The End from the Beginning is everywhere.

Here is an additional search "from the beginning"

Here are some prophetical verses of Isaiah.  "from the beginning"

http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q=from+the+beginning+&ver=kjv

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Isaiah 18:2
That sendeth ambassadors by the sea, even in vessels of bulrushes upon the waters, saying, Go, ye swift messengers, to a nation scattered and peeled, to a people terrible from their beginning hitherto; a nation meted out and trodden down, whose land the rivers have spoiled!

Isaiah 18:7 
In that time shall the present be brought unto the Lord of hosts of a people scattered and peeled, and from a people terrible from their beginning hitherto; a nation meted out and trodden under foot, whose land the rivers have spoiled, to the place of the name of the Lord of hosts, the mount Zion.

Isaiah 40:21
Have ye not known? have ye not heard? hath it not been told you from the beginning? have ye not understood from the foundations of the earth?

Isaiah 41:4
Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the Lord, the first, and with the last; I am he.

Isaiah 41:26   
Who hath declared from the beginning, that we may know? and beforetime, that we may say, He is righteous? yea, there is none that sheweth, yea, there is none that declareth, yea, there is none that heareth your words.

Isaiah 46:10
Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

Isaiah 48:3
I have declared the former things from the beginning; and they went forth out of my mouth, and I shewed them; I did them suddenly, and they came to pass.

Isaiah 48:5
I have even from the beginning declared it to thee; before it came to pass I shewed it thee: lest thou shouldest say, Mine idol hath done them, and my graven image, and my molten image, hath commanded them.

Isaiah 48:7 
They are created now, and not from the beginning; even before the day when thou heardest them not; lest thou shouldest say, Behold, I knew them.

Isaiah 48:16
Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me
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Much comes from the beginning in prophecy.

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the UB
When a Son of the Eternal Son appeared on Urantia, those who fraternized with this divine being in human form alluded to him as "He who was from the beginning, whom we have heard, whom we have seen with our eyes, whom we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, even the Word of life."

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