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« Reply #120 on: May 15, 2009, 10:01:19 pm »









                       Exploration of the Bimini Underwater Rectangles Yields Stunning Finds






May 2009
Expedition Summary
By Dr. Lora Little
with Dr. Greg Little

Greg and I have just returned from our most recent expedition to the Bimini in the Bahamas where we were filmed by the History Channel for a show about the search for Atlantis (tentatively scheduled to air in August 2009). They had filmed some footage for the Atlantis show during a trip with us back in January of 2009 while also filming with us for an upcoming Bermuda Triangle show. During the January trip we tried unsuccessfully to dive on a promising underwater site near the Gulf Stream at the 90-100 foot level a few miles west of the Bimini Road. We were then unable to complete that dive since the seas were just too rough and the currents too dangerous. We had explained to the History Channel that this site had been originally identified via a November 2006 side scan sonar expedition funded by A.R.E. and led by archaeologist Bill Donato. Greg and I had obtained one good closeup still shot of a portion of the site in June 2007 from a short dive done by our long-time charter boat colleagues Elsie and Krista Brown. That photograph focused on a large rectangular coral formation. What was most significant was that the photo also appeared to reveal stones placed on top of other stones on one of the corners of the rectangular form. Since the ocean shoreline would have been at the 110 foot level at the time of Cayce and Plato’s Atlantean destruction ca. 10,000 B.C. this site could be the most tangible proof of the existence of a pre-ice age civilization in the Bahamas. In an April/May expedition to Bimini with The National Geographic, we filmed underwater planes for a show on the Bermuda Triangle and also tried to visit and film the rectangles site. However, winds in excess of 30 mph also thwarted that attempt. Fortunately, the weather was quite cooperative this time around.

On this trip we were finally able to dive on the site and to obtain some side scan sonar shots as well as several hours of video footage with our color drop camera. In addition the History Channel had hired expert deep diver and videographer David Ulluoa to capture images from both close up and via a “flyer over” dive about 20 feet above the site using high definition camera video equipment. The results of all of these efforts was striking.

First, the new side scan images that Greg and I had obtained from our boat showed new, more detailed images of the rectangles and emphasized their regularity, consistency and their resemblance to manmade objects as opposed to natural ocean formations. There are literally dozens of these square and rectangular fomations located on a flat sandy bottom and running for approximately a mile. All are densely covered with coral but they are unlike anything else in the region. We also shot close up film with our color drop camera that allowed us to create a set of gps points to map a mile long portion of the site. During this time we collected nearly 3 hours of high quality video of the unusual formations. The video has yet to be fully examined but some images from the film accompany this article.
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« Reply #121 on: May 15, 2009, 10:02:57 pm »









When the History Channel crew arrived we were able to complete several dives of the southern end of the site (using our gps points). On the first dive our Bahamian boat captain and expert diver Elsie Brown went down holding our drop camera and swam it in a circle around where our boat was anchored. Due to the depth (90-110 ft) he could only dive for 20 minutes, but we obtained some great footage. Fortunately, the current on this day was neutral from the 70 foot level down to the bottom. Greg and I did the next dive along with David Ulloa and his safety diver. David was using a rebreather device so was the only diver not limited to a 20 minute dive. Because the current was quite swift from about the 10 to 70 foot depth, Greg and I tethered ourselves to the anchor line of our boat and descended to the bottom reahing a maximum depth of 120-feet. Once there we were able to unhook our tethers and explore only two of the rectangular mound sites beneath the boat. Our objective was to seek some manmade evidence such as stones placed on top of stones as in a wall, or tool marks, or right angles, etc. The rectangular formations resemble mounds and were covered in both live and hardened coral. We brushed off the sand and debris where we could being careful not to disturb the live coral, but could not find any objects that were not coral encrusted. While exploring the first mound I happened to look over at the second one which was about 50 yards south of us and thought I could clearly see what appeared to be two stone blocks lying one on top of the other. I alerted Greg and we headed over, but to our disappointment by the time we got close to it the image had “disappeared” and the area was simply a “blob” of the mound covered in hardened coral. The differentiation of a seam separating the two blocks that seemed clear from the distance was not visible as we gave the site a close-up inspection. However, we were impressed with the fact that the rectangular mounds were surrounded by flat sandy seabed and that the gradual drop of the ancient shoreline could easily be made out.

Since we were limited to 20 minutes to avoid a long decompression ascent, our time on the site was short. During both Elsie’s dive and our dive, David Olluoa was filming the site (and us) with his high definition video camera. After our debriefing it was decided that David would return the next day and do shots across the entire site using his dive scooter and HD video. Meanwhile we moved over to the Bimini Road to get some additional footage there. In January with the History Channel we had gotten some great shots of wedge stones and prop stones found under the main stones of the road. This time we also found lots of impressive prop stones providing more proof to contradict the statements made by skeptics that the road is merely a single layer of fractured beachrock lying on the seabed. We also found numerous rectangular slabs stacked under the huge blocks that are visible from the surface. Later on we found several stone anchors that were identical to Phoenician anchors and pulled the smallest one on the boat for closer inspection.

The next day the heavy currents were much more treacherous at the 90-100 foot depth so David had some trouble getting video of the entire site. However, he was able to access several rectangles on the northern end of the ancient shoreline at the 100 foot level. His video was amazing and what he was able to show Greg and I after the dive contained several points of interest. First, he was struck by the unique and regular pattern of the rectangles as he began shooting. They were uniformly spaced and all of a similar size and shape. He could immediately see four rectangles about 50 yards apart lined up perfecting along the ledge where the 10,000 B.C. shoreline would have been. He was struck by the fact that, although they were covered with coral, the seabed surrounding them was mostly a flat sandy area with no coral. He is an experienced deep diver and has never seen coral form in regular block formations this way except when it was covering some manmade objects such as shipwrecks or buildings blown into the water by hurricanes. Of course, for this much coral to be covering the mounds they had to have been in place a very, very long time. Could these be buildings from a pre-ice age civilization that had been inundated by some force of nature such as a tsunami or a hurricane or rising sea levels as the ice age glaciers melted? One statement we made on film is this: “What would you expect to see if you found stone structures that had been underwater for 12,000-years?”
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« Reply #122 on: May 15, 2009, 10:04:22 pm »









One segment of David’s film showed an elevated rectangle from a distance ­ about 50 yards— and clearly showed what appeared to be a wall of individual stone blocks about 4 blocks high spanning the length of the coral mound from the sea floor. Strangely when he got right next to the site with his camera the blocks were not visible and the same area appeared to be a lava-like covering of hardened coral. This was the same optical illusion we had experienced on our dive the day before at rectangles on the southern end of the site. However, this rectangular mound had a curious t-shaped extension on one of the short sides. It was covered in hardened coral but seemed to have right angles cut out of it so that the raised area formed a T shape. Also of interest were some clearly defined rectangular depressions in the sandy areas between some of the mounds which may also be the remains of building foundations. In essence, the formations resemble truncated mounds, with clearly defined sides and a flat-top. Several appear to have multiple levels. Most of the formations are 3-6 feet in height with the sizes varying from about 12 x 15-feet to 15 x 24-feet. The sides of the formations are likely stone as we did find some stone slabs in some areas.

Needless to say the History Channel was very pleased with their footage and the forthcoming documentary will probably cause quite a stir and raise the ire of the skeptics. Unfortunately, not a single archaeologist asked by the History Channel to go on the expedition to examine the site would or could go. They may—or may not—include that issue in the show. We are now more convinced then ever that this is clearly an area that needs more exploration. It may well be that the remains of manmade structures are truly on the edge of this 10,000 BC shoreline—which would be a stunning and completely mind-boggling discovery. But more research is needed. Unfortunately sub-bottom profiling cannot penetrate the hardened coral on the rectangular mounds, but if the sea bed next to the mounds are pure sand then it can “see” through them so that we could search for artifacts that might have been preserved in the sand. For a 5-day expedition we felt that we got a lot accomplished. We were even able to take one day before the film crew arrived to travel 65-miles south of Bimini to explore a few of the areial targets we had identified during our April 2008 flyover of the Great Bahamas Bank from Andros to Orange Cay. We found lots of cars, trucks, TV antennas, and other fish condos (cages) on the bottom, but no archaeological evidence. However, we still have more than 100 targets to access so that will be another expedition. Hopefully it will be soon as we hope to return to the rectangles at Bimini in order to map it more completely with both sidescan and video.

A more detailed report will be issued next month after we examine our extensive film and photos. In addition, these new results will be incorporated into the dvd documentary, The Search for Edgar Cayce’s Atlantis, which is now being updated and should be available by June 1.
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« Reply #124 on: July 23, 2009, 01:31:53 pm »









CONTENTS:

   

IS ATLANTIS FINALLY FOUND NEAR BIMINI: Drs. Greg and Lora Little on Startling New Discoveries Along the 10,000 B.C. Coastline
   

SECRETS OF ANGELS & DEMONS: Phillip Coppens Visits Bernini’s Rome—Did the Movie Get it Right?
   

THE COLONEL & HIS RUSSIAN LADY FRIEND: Mitch Holowitz with the Amazing Story of H. S. Olcott & H. P. Blavatsky
   

UNCOVERING THE REAL WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE: Frank Joseph Takes a Fresh Look at the Details of a Great Mystery



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The Search for Edgar Cayce's Atlantis






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Director: Greg Little

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                                                  ARE'S NEWS FROM THE FIELD






"You may not hear as much as you would like about ARE'S ongoing search for the Hall of Records, located in three spots on the planet (according to Edgar Cayce), but that doesn't mean there isn't a lot of research being done and discoveries being made.  It's simply an indication of how difficult and time-consuming this type of research is, especially when it is in deep water with a strong current (Gulf Stream) or under an international monument (the Sphinx), or in a jungle with no roads (PiedrasNegras).

The picture above was taken in July of this year by one of ARE's archaeological teams.  It is a photo of
an unnatural complex in about 185' of water with the strong, steady current of the Gulf Stream flowing
over it.  The diver is using apropeller device to resist the current's force and keep him over the site.  There is a video cmera mounted on the device.  His companion diver took this shot.

ARE Archaeological research in the vicinity of the Bahamas is being guideby Dr. Doug Richards, Dr. Joan
Hanley, Drs. Greg and Lora Little and archaeologist Bill Donato - all of whom have given much of their
talent and time to this effort for years.  It is being funded by Don Dickinson and another major donor
who wishes to remain anonymous.

The photo is one small feature of a massive area stretching along the Gulf Stream off the coast of
Bimini Island - an area that Cayce mentioned.



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« Reply #127 on: September 20, 2015, 12:37:07 pm »

Yes, you are reading the same things more than once. I'm answering questions, but there are "variations" that have been put out by different people on discoveries over the years. The alterations and fact-mangling that have been done on Bahamas research findings are astounding.

Des: Yes, it's hard to work in the Mid-Atlantic Ridge, unless you are ready to spend tens of millions of $s.

The "Bimini Wall" and "Bimini Road" are the same thing. The main formation is 1900 feet long. The two lines of stones about 150 feet away are about 1000 feet long. Huge, yes. I've never seen a show that showed even 10% of it.

May 2005: 12 stone anchors were found at Proctor's Road, another site about 0.8 miles from the Bimini Road (or Wall). 2 stone anchors at the Bimini Road itself.

March 2006: a third stone anchor found at Bimini Road. Six were found in a small area at Proctor's Road.

Regarding Gladys Davis (Cayce's sec.) getting the dates wrong, only a few of the dates he gave had any room for interpretation. Sometimes Cayce would give the numbers one-by-one to make sure there was no confusion. We devoted dozens of pages in our new book "Edgar Cayce's Atlantis" to the date issues.

Regarding Andrew Collins' research & "Gateway to Atlantis" book, that was the impetus that spurred my wife and I to enter the actual search via expeditions. I agree with Andrew at least 99%. He'll be here in June and we plan a trip to Bimini. He believes that we have verified the "stepping stones" he referred to: Bimini, Andros, Cay Sal. He's become a good friend since 2002. In fact, our trip through Ohio and other areas with mounds stimulated his newest book, to be released in July. He is one of the most meticulous and careful theorists I've met, and he strives to be completely accurate.

Neko: The height of the Ice Age (at least in the past 25,000 years) was 17,000 BC, when the sea levels were 300+ feet lower. By 10,000 BC, the sea levels were 90-110 feet lower. But the entire Great Bahama Bank was still an island then.

Greg

The entire Carribean wasn't a sinle island. There were several larger ones back then.


Desiree,
I noticed that you are intrigued, not only with Plato's Atlantis, but that you are also interested and place much faith in the people that, in conjunction with the A.R.E., directly or indirectly, are faithfully searching for the Atlantis revealed to us by the sleeping prophet, Edgar Cayce. Do you really think there is anything in what Cayce said about Atlantis and such things as the “hall of records? And since Plato's Atlantis and Mr. Cayce's Atlantis are more than just an ocean away; a universe apart is more like it, I would say, and therefore I wanted to know if you also place any faith in some of the other things Edgar Cayce gave us, such as the Second Coming. I have only cited a very small amount of the Cayce's readings on the subject. But I believe you to be an intelligent person, and I also believe you know where I'm going with this. And since you will most likely not respond, I will briefly state the reason for mentioning this.

Plato's writing contain the tale Atlantis, but they also contain many other tales, myths, and at the core of his writings, philosophy that I would term “religion,” and the immortality of the soul, “reincarnation.”   In your opinion, are not Edgar Cayce's readings' themes much like Plato's themes, that, besides the similarity of a religious theme, but especially when it comes to Atlantis and the association of reincarnation to it? And if you place hope and a belief that scientific research will make out Edgar Cayce to be a true prophet in the area of Atlantis, what say you about Cayce also being a true prophet for reincarnation and of the prophesying about Jesus? Or do you only have faith in Cayce for Atlantis, and not the other? And if only about Atlantis, what is your criterion for “parting the waters” and differentiating?
 
If you are already familiar with Cayce's entire work, in general, how do interpret the tie and contradictions between Atlantis and the Second Coming of Christ in his work; his readings, his dreams, and his waking life beliefs? And how does one marry one to other, in order to have a peaceful and loving relationship?  Did you ever discuss this with Greg, and if you did, how did he, or anyone else at the A.R.E., resolve the matter? And do you know if any serious seeker of Atlantis, A.R.E. proponent or not, is also seeking the truth about the Second Coming, symbolically or literally, and otherwise? Can one be any truer than the other? In your opinion, since you seem to favor Greg's opinion and expertise on Atlantis, what do you make of it, logically speaking and within the context given in Plato's works?


Edgar Cayce on the "Second Coming"

1. GC: You will have before you Edgar Cayce, present in this room, and his enquiring mind in relation to the talk which he expects to give next Monday evening on the "Second Coming."You will give what he should present at this open meeting on this subject.

2. EC: That which crowds in at the present may be well for those present, but would it be well for those in open meeting? From this experience, though, there may be gathered that which has been given and that which may be helpful to many in the comprehension of that which is the experience of those that seek through such channels to have for themselves the experience that may be had by those here in this room in the present.

3. Be mindful then, each of you, of that ye may inwardly experience in that which may be given you.

4. For, those experiences that have been told you of the vision [See EC's dream of a.m.] of the gathering of those that were known to many in this present land and in the lands abroad were in reference to just those things that may be said respecting the Coming.

5. Many of these have ministered, have preached concerning this Second Coming. Not a one but what has at some time left the record of his contemplations and experiences in those environs, whether made in the heart and mind of his hearers or in the written word; yet here today, in what ye call time, ye find them gathering in a body to LISTEN to that as may be given them by [Edgar Cayce?] (NO! John) one who is to be a forerunner of that influence in the earth known as the Christ Consciousness, the coming of that force or power into the earth that has been spoken of through the ages.

6. Listen, while he speaks! [Edgar Cayce?] (NO! John)

12. (Q) Is Jesus the Christ on any particular sphere or is He manifesting on the earth plane in another body?

(A) As just given, all power in heaven, in earth, is given to Him who overcame. Hence He is of Himself in space, in the force that impels through faith, through belief, in the individual entity. As a Spirit Entity. Hence not in a body in the earth, but may come at will to him who WILLS to be one with, and acts in love to make same possible.

For, He shall come as ye have seen Him go, in the BODY He occupied in Galilee. The body that He formed, that was crucified on the cross, that rose from the tomb, that walked by the sea, that appeared to Simon, that appeared to Philip, that appeared to "I, even John."

13. (Q) Wherever He is, how may I contact Him so that I may see Him and hear Him speak?

(A) The making of the will of self one with His will makes a whole attunement with Him. He WILL, with the making of self in accord and desiring same, speak with thee. "Be not afraid, it is I."

5749-4 August 6, 1933
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6. For as ye have caught a glimpse of here as an individual: the manner in which an individual, a community, a state or nation treats those less fortunate, those ill, those aged and infirm, those mentally possessed, is the manner in which such an individual, community, state or nation serves its Maker. For God so loved the world that He gave His Son. That is a pattern which each individual should emulate, he should so love his fellow man.

7. The individual has used opportunities for self, of others; but leave not out of thy faith nor thy hope those purposes that should be the promptings of this individual entity. For when ye walk with Him, in purpose and in ideal, ye will find that ye are never alone. Think not that ye or any other individual may be the only one serving a living God. For since His entry into the world, and His making it possible for man to find his way back to God, there has been and will continue to be an increase. For God has not willed that any soul should perish. Though the lights of hope may oft grow dim, in the violence that is created by those who become self-conscious of ability and who use self and others for gratifying of selfish desires, let it ever be said of thee that ye will make, ye will cause the welkin to ring for the glory of the coming of the Lord. For He will one day come again, and thou shalt see Him as He is, even as thou hast seen in thy early sojourns the glory of the day of the triumphal entry and the day of the Crucifixion, and as ye also heard the angels proclaim "As ye have seen Him go, so will ye see Him come again." Thou wilt be among those in the earth when He comes again. Glory in that, but let it be rather the one reason why ye keep the faith, the faith in the coming of the Lord, to call those who have been faithful; that they, as He prayed, "may be where I am, and may behold the glory which I had with thee before the worlds were."

8. That is something to look forward to!

3615-1 January 2, 1944
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40. (Q) Should I hope and seek for personal experiences or contacts with Jesus as a personality now?

(A) As has been indicated, this may be - but this ye live. Not as a desire for self-exaltation; that is, self-proof, self-evidence; but it is evidenced IN thee when ye ARE (in thy living, in thy thinking, in thy acting) One with Him.

Then, and thus - how hath the angel given? "As ye have seen Him go, so will ye see Him come." Were those just as words?

No.

Thou hast seen Him oft in the acts of others and the personality ye called by another name, yet ye may see Him. And when He speaks, "Be not afraid, it is I." Know He is near. And in the breaking of bread ye may know Him!

1158-9 March 28, 1937
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3. As to occult or psychic science, as called, then - it is, as we have found through some manifestations, that these forces are first recognized in or by the individual. Hence, as has been seen, in the beginning these were the natural expressions of an entity. As there developed more of the individual association with material conditions, and they partook of same in such a manner as to become wholly or in part a portion OF same, farther - or more hidden, more unseen - has become occult or psychic manifestations. First there were the occasional harking back. Later by dream. Again we find individuals raised in certain sections for specific purposes. As the cycle has gone about, time and again has there arisen in the earth those that MANIFESTED these forces in a more magnificent, more beneficent, way and manner. And, as has been given, again the time draws near when there shall be seen and known among men, in many places, the manifestations of such forces in the material world; for "As ye have seen Him go, so will He return again." Be thou faithful unto those words He has given while yet with you. Hence it behooves every individual to take cognizance of that force that may manifest in their material lives, even in this material age; for those that become ashamed for His sake - for THAT sake - of that that may manifest (which is as the Spirit's manner of activity) through those many channels that are open to those who will look up, lift up - and these, we find, are often in the lowliest of places and circumstances. Why? Since these are forces of the Most High, since these supplied - as of old - those secular things in abundance, and were supplied the needs not only of the physical being but of the mental and spiritual also, contributing to those forces as made for the gratification also of that builded in a material world, does it become any wonder that he that shall be abased and remains true shall wear the Crown of Life?

364-11 April 29, 1932
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6. (Q) What is meant by "the day of the Lord is near at hand"?

(A) That as has been promised through the prophets and the sages of old, the time - and half time - has been and is being fulfilled in this day and generation, and that soon there will again appear in the earth that one through whom many will be called to meet those that are preparing the way for His day in the earth. The Lord, then, will come, "even as ye have seen Him go".

7. (Q) How soon?

(A) When those that are His have made the way clear, PASSABLE, for Him to come.

262-49 July 9, 1933
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19. (Q) Please explain the words of the Master as recorded in the 21st chapter of Luke, "Many shall come in my name, saying I am Christ."

(A) As has been given, many have arisen; for as He gave in the same connection, there were many false prophets, even those that would lead the very elect away. There be those who, finding something of the power that is in the material activities of those that would walk in the light, turn same into their own selfish purposes; hence become false prophets, false Christs, and lead many astray. Let's remember, there has been given the manner, the way to determine as to whether such a prophet is of the Spirit of God or not. They that deny the call of the prophets of old, or the burdens of the world upon the Son or His death, His resurrection, are not of the spirit; for "As ye have SEEN Him go, so SHALL He come." As He overcame the world through the birth as one born in due season, through those varied periods when necessity and the DEMAND of the Sons of God brought forth those leaders in their proper places, so He is that one that is given power over death, hell and the grave, and in Him is the power made manifest in the consciousness of Him and His power in the earth; hence we may see how the consciousness of His presence may be misconstrued, when turned to selfish motives. Know that even as the powers of evil are loosed for the correcting of many, so are the glories of Him made manifest in the hearts and lives of many.

262-30 October 16, 1932

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Edgar Cayce on Atlantis

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2. Atlantis as a continent is a legendary tale. Whether or not that which has been received through psychic sources has for its basis those few lines given by Plato, or the references made in Holy writ that the earth was divided, depends upon the trend of individual minds. Recently, however, the subject has taken on greater import, since some scientists have declared that such a continent was not only a reasonable and plausible matter, but from evidences being gradually gathered was a very probable condition.
3. As we recognize, there has been considerable given respecting such a lost continent by those channels such as the writer of Two Planets, or Atlantis - or Poseida and Lemuria - that has been published through some of the Theosophical literature. As to whether this information is true or not, depends upon the credence individuals give to this class of information.
4. Then, it has seemed well to many of this group, that those channels through which information may be obtained interest themselves in such an undertaking, as to gain through those channels such information that might be applicable in the lives or experiences of individuals interested in such.
5. From time to time, in and through the information obtained for some individuals in their life readings, has come that they, as an entity or individual, occupied some particular place, or performed some activity in some portion of that continent; or emigrated from the continent to some other portion of the earth's surface at the time, and began some particular development. These must have been a busy folk, for with their advent into other climes (as the information runs) they began to make many changes from the activities in that particular sphere in which they entered.
6. Then, if we are to accept such as being a fact or fiction, may truly depend upon what value to the human family knowledge concerning such a peoples would be in the affairs of individuals today. What contribution would information be to the minds of individuals, as to knowing or understanding the better or closer relations to the Creative Forces? Or, to put it another manner, what would information of that nature mean to my SOUL today?
7. Be it true that there IS the fact of reincarnation, and that souls that once occupied such an environ are entering the earth's sphere and inhabiting individuals in the present, is it any wonder that - if they made such alterations in the affairs of the earth in their day, as to bring destruction upon themselves - if they are entering now, they might make many changes in the affairs of peoples and individuals in the present? Are they, then, BEING born into the world? If so, what WERE their environs - and will those environs mean in a material world today?
 
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1. EC: Yes, we have the subject and those conditions. As has been said, much data has been received from time to time through psychic forces as respecting conditions in or through the period, or ages, of this continent's existence. That the continent existed is being proven as a fact.
2. Then, what took place during the period, or periods, when it was being broken up? What became of the inhabitants? What was the character of their civilization? Are there any evidences of those, or any portion of, the inhabitants' escape? The POSITION of the continent, and the like, MUST be of interest to peoples in the present day, if either by inference that individuals are being born into the earth plane to develop in the present, or are people being guided in their spiritual interpretation of individuals' lives or developments BY the spirits of those who inhabited such a continent. In either case, if these be true, they ARE WIELDING - and are to wield - an influence upon the happenings of the present day world.
3. The position as the continent Atlantis occupied, is that as between the Gulf of Mexico on the one hand - and the Mediterranean upon the other. Evidences of this lost civilization are to be found in the Pyrenees and Morocco on the one hand, British Honduras, Yucatan and America upon the other. There are some protruding portions within this that must have at one time or another been a portion of this great continent. The British West Indies or the Bahamas, and a portion of same that may be seen in the present - if the geological survey would be made in some of these - especially, or notably, in Bimini and in the Gulf Stream through this vicinity, these may be even yet determined.
4. What, then, are the character of the peoples? To give any proper conception, may we follow the line of a group, or an individual line, through this continent's existence - and gain from same something of their character, their physiognomy, and their spiritual and physical development.
5. In the period, then - some hundred, some ninety-eight thousand years before the entry of Ram into India [See 364-3, Par. R2] - there lived in this land of Atlantis one Amilius [?], who had first NOTED that of the separations of the beings as inhabited that portion of the earth's sphere or plane of those peoples into male and female as separate entities, or individuals. As to their forms in the physical sense, these were much RATHER of the nature of THOUGHT FORMS, or able to push out OF THEMSELVES in that direction in which its development took shape in thought - much in the way and manner as the amoeba would in the waters of a stagnant bay, or lake, in the present. As these took form, by the gratifying of their own desire for that as builded or added to the material conditions, they became hardened or set - much in the form of the existent human body of the day, with that of color as partook of its surroundings much in the manner as the chameleon in the present. Hence coming into that form as the red, or the mixture peoples - or colors; known then later by the associations as the RED race. These, then, able to use IN their gradual development all the forces as were manifest in their individual surroundings, passing through those periods of developments as has been followed more closely in that of the yellow, the black, or the white races, in other portions of the world; yet with their immediate surroundings, with the facilities for the developments, these became much speedier in this particular portion of the globe than in others - and while the destruction of this continent and the peoples are far beyond any of that as has been kept as an absolute record, that record in the rocks still remains - as has that influence OF those peoples in that life of those peoples to whom those that did escape during the periods of destruction make or influence the lives of those peoples TO whom they came. As they MAY in the present, either through the direct influence of being regenerated, or re-incarnated into the earth, or through that of the MENTAL application on through the influences as may be had upon thought OF individuals or groups by speaking from that environ.
6. In the MANNER of living, in the manner of the moral, of the social, of the religious life of these peoples: There, classes existed much in the same order as existed among others; yet the like of the warlike INFLUENCE did NOT exist in the peoples - AS a people - as it did in the OTHER portions of the universe.
 
1. Introduction to Cayce's Revelations of the Christ
 
The system of metaphysical thought which emerges from the Cayce material can be described as a "Christianized" version of the mystery religions of ancient Egypt, Chaldea, Persia, India, and Greece. It fits Christ into the mystical tradition of one God for all people, and places Christ in his proper place, at the apex of the philosophical structure - the capstone of the pyramid.

Cayce was a fundamentalist Christian who was raised in strict nineteenth century Bible tradition. When he discovered that his subconscious information declared the ancient mystic religions to be true and acclaimed Jesus as their crowning glory, he suffered the greatest mental and emotional shock of his life. Cayce had only a seventh grade education and consciously knew nothing of what he said while in a deep trance-like state. He was only versed in the Bible and had no high school or college background of any kind. Up until his revelations, Cayce had never heard of the mystery religions. Yet the Cayce material agrees with everything about them that is known to be authentic. He spoke at length on Christian Gnosticism well before the Gnostic writings were discovered after his death. Cayce affirmed that Christian Gnosticism is the type of Christianity that was taught by Jesus. Much of the information from Cayce has solved some of the greatest mysteries of humanity, some of which were later validated after the discoveries of the Dead Sea Scrolls and the early Christian writings discovered in Egypt.
 
Cayce's descriptions of the Essenes of Mount Carmel reveal the religious sect to be an ideal for others who would prepare the way for the Second Coming of Christ. Cayce's revelations of Jesus' so-called "lost years" as a youth studying in Egypt, Persia, and India suggest an important compatibility of between the eastern and western religions. Cayce's Christology also makes the Christ soul not only an ideal and pattern toward which everyone should aspire, but a living presence to guide people toward "at-one-ment" with God - the perfect divine-human unity which Jesus attained.

According to the Cayce material, Jesus and Adam were different incarnations of the same Christ soul. Eve and the Virgin Mary (Jesus' twin soul) were also different incarnations of the same soul. This karmic connection between Adam and Jesus explains why Jesus was able to pay the "karmic debt" by atoning for the "sin of Adam." This Adam-Jesus connection can be seen in the following excerpt from the Cayce readings:
Question:  "When did the knowledge come to Jesus that he was to be the Savior of the world?"
Cayce:  "When he fell in Eden." [2067-7]
According to Cayce, many other personalities from the Old Testament and history were also incarnations of Jesus. The Cayce material describes the entire Christian Bible as part of the story of Jesus' long struggle to attain "Christhood" and provide humanity a pattern to do the same.
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2. The Incarnations of Jesus According to Cayce
 
The following is a list of the incarnations of Jesus according to Cayce. Note that all these incarnatiions of Jesus, as Cayce describes them, have in common their role as psychic revelators:
Amilius   
Amilius was the first expression of Divine Mind (the Logos); the Christ-soul before his incarnation into a physical body (corresponding to Genesis 1). He was the entity Cayce identified as living in the lost civilization of Atlantis who redirected the process of human evolution by creating a more appropriate physical form for the influx of souls to incarnate into rather than incarnating into the ape-like human form which souls had entangled themselves in. The first wave of souls (known as "the sons of men") became entrapped in the physical plane accidentally through their misuse of free will. These events gave rise to the legend of the "fall of the angels." The second wave ("the sons of God") consisted of those souls led by Amilius (the Christ-soul) who voluntarily became entrapped in flesh as Adam in order to assist the first wave.

Adam   
Adam was the first "son of man" and "son of God"; the Christ-soul after his incarnation into a physical body (corresponding to Genesis 2). Cayce sometimes used the word "Adam" to refer to the entire group of souls which had accompanied the Christ-soul's incarnation into the Earth realm. These "Adams" incarnated as the five races on five separate continents. Eventually, the Christ-soul, as Adam, joined his twin soul (the Eve-Virgin Mary soul) by allowing himself to be seduced by materiality as symbolized by his acceptance of the forbidden fruit. The other "sons of God" followed suit and, as a result, interbred with the "daughters of men" (Genesis 6:2). In this light, humanity's banishment from "the Garden of Eden" was actually a great blessing, because death, reincarnation, and karma are all designed to teach us to move away from materiality and toward our true nature.

Enoch   
Enoch is mentioned in several pseudepigraphal works (The Book of Enoch, 2 Enoch, and 3 Enoch) as well as some Kabbalistic writings, in addition to his brief mention in Genesis 5:18-24 which concludes, "And Enoch walked with God: and he was not, for God took him." The Book of Enoch describes the fall of the "Watchers" into materiality and Enoch's heavenly sojournes as wekll as his transfiguration into the angel Metatron. It is revealed to him the future up to the time of the messiah as well. Enoch also learns about the heirarchy of the angelic realm and the divine "throne-chariot" of Ezekiel. The Book of Enoch introduces a messianic figure referred to as "the Son of Man." In the canonical New Testament, Enoch is mentioned in Hebrews 11:5 and Jude 14-15. The passage in Jude quotes directly from the pseudepigaphal Book of Enoch which shows the author of Jude, the brother of Jesus, considered the Book of Enoch to be sacred scripture.

Hermes   
"Hermes" of the Cayce readings is the one who designed and build the Great Pyramid under the direction of Ra Ta. There is another historical connection between a "Hermes" and Egypt which is found in the Hellenistic writings attributed to Hermes Trismegistus - the sage who began the Hermetic tradition. Hermes is also referred to in the Poimandres, as the "shepherd of men" who teaches that "the Word which came forth from the Light is the Son of God." Accordingly, Hermes also taught that human nature consists of such divine elements as Nature, Light, Mind, and Life; and that by recognizing them we may return to the invisible, immaterial world of Truth.

Melchizedek   
Melchizedek was the "king of Salem" and "priest of the most high God" who shares bread and wine with Abraham in Genesis 14: 18-20.) He is also mentioned both in the Dead Sea Scrolls (11QMelch) and the Melchizedek Nag Hammadi codex where he appears as a cosmic angelic figure, the risen Christ. Hebrews 5:8-10 calls Jesus "a high priest after the order of Melchizedek," which explains how Jesus was a priestly Messiah without being a Levite. According to Cayce, Melchizedek wrote the Book of Job, which contains many mysterious passages that Cayce liked. Cayce once side, "For, as the sons of God came together to reason, as recorded by Job, "WHO recorded same? The Son of Man! Melchizedek wrote Job!."
Joseph   
Joseph was the son of Jacob who became the Prince of Egypt. The story of Joseph appealed to Cayce, not only for its Egyptian location, but its endorsement of dream guidance and also for Joseph's escape from the pit (anticipating Jesus' resurrection). In fact there are many parallels between the life of Joseph and Jesus.
Joshua   
Joshua was the warrior who led the Israelites into the Promised Land. However, this incarnation of the Christ-soul is more difficult to account for given his military campaigns described in the Bible. Jesus' suffering on the cross would certainly have paid his karmic debt for this transgression as well. But Cayce also saw Joshua as a member of a family which had produced many highly-skilled spiritual counselors. One of Joshua's roles was as a scribe for Moses who psychically dictated much of the material from the books traditionally attributed to him. This explains how Joshua could have remembered to include such details as the creation of the universe and his own death. Hebrews 4:8-10 identifies Jesus as a better Joshua, as Joshua led Israel into the rest of Canaan, but Jesus leads the people of God into "God's rest," salvation. Among the early Church Fathers, Joshua is considered a type of Jesus Christ.
Asaph   The Cayce readings give little information about Asaph except that he was the music director and seer who served under David and Solomon.
Jeshua   
Jeshua (Joshua) was the high priest who helped organize the return from exile and the rebuilding of the temple (as recounted in the books of Ezra and Nehemiah) and who is claimed by Cayce to have compiled and translated the books of the Bible

Zend   
Cayce identified "Zend" (also spelled "Zen", "Zan", "Sen" or "San") as the father of Zoroaster, the founder of the Zoroastrian religion (of Magi fame), and the source of inspiration for the Avesta, the sacred Zorastrian scriptures. However, the word "Zend" in Zend-Avesta means "commentary" and, in reality Zoroaster's father was named Pourushaspa. It appears the sleeping Cayce was inspired by the Book of Esther and Matthew's story of the Magi to base this "Zend" personality upon. Of interest is the fact that it was during the Israelites exile in Babylon when Judaism (and then Gnosticism, Christianity and Islam) incorporated the Zorostrian theological system of monotheism, the Messiah, the dualistic struggle between good and evil, light and darkness, angels and demons, heaven and hell, God and Satan, the Last Judgement and the Resurrection of the Dead.
Jesus   
Jesus was the man who attained complete "at-one-ment" and human-divine unity and therefore became "the Christ." Note that "Joshua", "Jeshua", and "Jesus" are really the same name. The name "Jesus" is a Latinization of the Aramaic "Jeshua" or "Yeshua" which is in turn taken from the Hebrew "Yehoshua" or "Joshua." So the name "Jesus" refers to many heroes in the Hebrew Bible. Cayce therefore assigned the soul-entity Jesus the same name for three separate incarnations. Cayce also revealed that the Jesus of the New Teastament was registered by his Essene school under the name of "Jeshua."

Huh??   
The Christ-soul will walk the Earth again as the Messiah foretold by the Hebrew prophets in order to usher in the so-called "Throne of David" (i.e., the kingdom of heaven) on Earth as revealed in Revelation 11:15. Cayce sometimes interpreted the Second Coming of Christ as being an internal, psychic event within the individual seeker (as in his commentary on the Book of Revelation), and sometimes as the actual return of Jesus Christ in particular. In discussing the massive geological changes predicted for the "last days," he adds that "these will begin in those periods from 1958 to 1998. when these will be proclaimed as the periods when His light will be seen in the clouds." While this passage might be interpreted psychologically, elsewhere Cayce insists that Jesus will return in the flesh and rule for one thousand years as mentioned in Revelation 20:1-3. During this thousand-year time period, Cayce states that souls from the lower afterlife realms will not be permitted to reincarnate in order to establish the kingdom of God on Earth. Afterward, when the kingdom of God is established, souls from the lower afterlife realms will be permitted to reincarnate. According to Cayce, "As given, for a thousand years he will walk and talk with men of every clime. Then in groups, in masses, and then they shall reign of the first resurrection for a thousand years; for this will be when the changes materially come." Although Cayce gives the year date of the "entrance of the Messiah into this period as 1998," he also admits that no one knows the exact time of the Second Coming, since it cannot occur "until His enemies (and the Earth) are wholly in subjection to His will, His powers." A future incarnation of Jesus into flesh may not be necessary because Jesus has already transcended the necessity of reincarnating through his obedience of going to the cross.

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3. The Incarnations of Jesus in Detail
 
According to Cayce, the "fall of man" was an event recorded symbolically in Genesis where souls from heaven first descended to the Earth plane to began incarnating as humans. The first wave of souls to incarnate (known in the Bible as "the sons of men") became entrapped in the Earth plane accidentally, through their misuse of free will. These events gave rise to legends of the "fall of the angels" and to mythical beasts of the kind described in J.R.R. Tolkien's "The Lord of the Rings."

The second wave of incarnations (known in the Bible as "the sons of God") consisted of those souls led by Amilius - the Christ soul - who voluntarily became entrapped in order to assist the first wave of trapped souls. They accomplished this by steering the process of physical evolution in a way that created more appropriate physical forms for these souls. Cayce places Amilius on Atlantis, but says that he did not physically incarnate until the human physical form had been created, at which time the Genesis accounts of Adam and Eve begin. Cayce sometimes used the word "Adam" to also refer to the entire group of souls which had accompanied the Christ soul into incarnating into the Earth plane and who incarnated as the five races of humanity on five separate continents.

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« Reply #128 on: September 20, 2015, 02:10:11 pm »


Your mind understands what you have been taught; your heart what is true.


I think that, you, as someone faithful to Plato's Atlantis needs also to be faithful to Plato's thoughts. And perhaps your motto signature, above, needs to be reconsidered, as it is rather the opposite to Plato's thinking. Although you could have feelings and opinions that something may be true, and be right, still, one should use the mind to get at the truth, and not with that organ within the breast, or around the middle, the gut. And I have a gut feeling that my heart is telling me that you have flown away from this site a while ago. But surprise me and prove my heart feelings false?
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« Reply #129 on: February 19, 2016, 07:35:26 pm »

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as it is rather the opposite to Plato's thinking.

And yet, you, like many a sophomoric student of philosophy imagine you know what was truly in Plato's mind. And yet, you are in no position to make such a claim so you'll excuse us if we place little weight on these, and others of your insights.
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