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« Reply #105 on: June 05, 2007, 02:28:32 pm »

The image of Cuba that shows on my screen (a MAC) only shows SW Cuba. Zapata is further east. It is the bottom of the Matanzas province of Cuba. Havana would be to the NW of it. There is a mountain range south of Havana. The south base of the range has a river. The river has a series of canals connecting eventually to the southern area of Zapata. Some photos of the canals of Zapata are on the internet. Do a google image search with Zapata Cuba canals as the terms.
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« Reply #106 on: June 05, 2007, 03:10:54 pm »

Hello Greg, if you go to the bottom of the picture frame on the map, you can "scroll" the map from one side to the other and so, see the whole picture, including the eastern part of Cuba with Zapata.  Large images tend to be kept intact in the forum, but printed so big that one has to scroll back and forth to see the entire picture. Hope that helps.
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« Reply #107 on: September 04, 2007, 01:30:31 am »

Hi Greg,

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There is no doubt that Cayce spoke of 3 identical record halls and the locations of all 3 are pinpointed.  Our new ARE Press book (Edgar Cayce's Atlantis) is an official ARE position-statement on this. The "alleged" controversy regarding Piedras Negras (PN) isn't really controversial. PN is it...and it is in the Yucatan Peninsula.


Cayce spoke of three identical sets of records only, but the distinction of the "Hall of Records" refers to a unique, subterranean, labrynthine complex at Giza, Egypt co-created by Atlanteans, native Egyptians, and the ruling Carpathians --per Cayce's source. The "hall" connects to the sealed room of Atlantean records, and many other tombs and "chambers of the way".   

Cayce's source never identified Piedras Negras as the site for the Yucatan temple of sacred, historical records.  Researchers had deduced that this is the site where the University of Pennsylvania was digging in 1933 as a possible location for the firestone crystals and related construction plans. That is factually all that readings 440-5 and 440-12 indicate. 

The reading about the Atlantean priest Iltar (5750-1) implicitly states that the Atlanteans' initial temples (including the temple holding the sacred, historical records of Poseidia) built in the Yucatan are in an area which is now underwater (most probably the shallowly-sunken Campeche Bank) and when earthchanges commence this "temple by Iltar will rise again".  This view is supported within the context of many related readings concerning earth changes and Atlantis rising. 

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The various people I have talked to about him (Ray Brown) stated that he wasn't very convincing. I doubt the accuracy of the overall story. The Berry Islands have been thoroughly investigated.


Not by the A.R.E., The Atlantis Organization/APEX, Gaea Project ( I asked Bill, Joan, Doug, and John) and what my maps indicate is that large areas around the Berries are forbidden "NATO/FORACS" test ranges reserved for AUTEC.

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Bill has a group of people in his organization (APEX) who are wonderfully supportive and very knowledgeable. We do not always agree on certain speculations or ideas, but it's a respectful and supportive group with a common goal and shared philosophies. Presently, the dominant thinking is that what has been accomplished is the verification that a previously-unrecognized maritime culture was in the Bahamas sometime between 3000-6000 BC, perhaps a bit earlier. It "looks" Phoenician in terms of construction techniques of breakwaters and quays. I was not in support of that idea initially, but now I agree with it. Paul Bader of APEX has put forth the Phoenician idea for some time.

I've dallied with the idea for less than three years.  If the Phoenician shipwreck that Valentine allegedly found in 1970 near the Bimini Road can be relocated and verified it might lend more validity to that idea.  But there's no doubt that it's a breakwater with a superficial resemblance to Phoenician constructs like the one at Akko.  Then there's the mounting body of evidence for cultural diffusion to the Americas in the broader context. 

While the UT results are exciting to say the least, they don't make very much sense.  If sea levels were approx. 110 ft lower 13,000 years ago per Faught's FSU study, then what's a breakwater made of beachrock doing at 80-95 ft above sea level?   Huh

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« Reply #108 on: March 13, 2009, 08:29:36 am »

CAYCE is a Fraud, because,

For the Studied Atlantologists CAYCE his directions are worthless,
I pointed this out why in my THREE Rules of THUMB to locate the " original" Atlantis.

And Dr. Greg Little is a glamorous attention seeker for expensive scuba hollydays !a (PASSAGE DELETED)

using the fact that Atlantis proper hasn't been found yet( which obviously would conflict with his intrests !)
the " Atlanteans "( I would call them' ATLANTOII " instead )0r Mineans ! were the original Phoenicians of Ras ADEN in South- Araby.

People who go out in marine helicopters and Salvage equipement at Sea
pretending to seek Atlantis have usually not studied Plato's Atlantis dialogue very well.

DID PLATO ever mention AMERICA ?
Those Forum members who did scrutinize Plato's " Textus-Receptus "
have mainly concluded that America was named NEW-Atlantis, and the
OLD or original " Atlantis " would have to be in the MED, since it was
alternatively called the KNOWN- World of Oikumenos

ATLANTIS was Plato's " KNOWN " World( but who cares ?)
America hardly could be called the " Known " world in Plato's time !
America as the original Atlantis is result of a translation ERROR,
 but despite my over 800 Post-Entries I had no powers of persuasion

CAYCE " Priests of Atlantis "
if they existed as co-operators of Egypt at the GIZAH-complex,
they would be the egyptian Priestly order of AMUN.

Has" CAYCE " ever mentioned the Atlanteans to be the same as the historical/regular Priests of AMUN ? ? ( Desiree ? anyone  Huh )

Sincerely " BlueHue " dd 15-March- 2009
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1: ATLANTIS =Fake=Latin name, original Greek: ATHE(=a Region in Aden)
2: Atlantic-OCEAN=Greek: RIVER-of-Atlas+also" Known "World-OCEAN(=Red-Sea)
3: Greek-obsolete-Numeral 'X' caused Plato's Atlantisdate:9000=900
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« Reply #109 on: March 13, 2009, 10:33:10 pm »






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« Reply #110 on: March 14, 2009, 02:34:37 am »

CAYCE is a Fraud,

And dr Greg Little a clever forger !


This is called defamation of character and libel! It's grounds for a lawsuit and should be grounds for removal from this board.
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« Reply #111 on: March 14, 2009, 12:23:09 pm »

I agree.  Bluehue, refrain from these sorts of character attacks upon board members in the future or else we shall have to ban you.

You have been warned.
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« Reply #112 on: March 18, 2009, 09:44:50 am »

ABOUT: Defamation OF character !

I should have thought of that !
 I realise that Dr. G. Little livelyhood is at stake, scuba-diving for a living is serious bussines
I am sorry the man Dr G. Little may be sound, but,
his aim to seek Atlantis in America is NOT, because the majority of his " Peers "
seek Atlantis in or around the MED, America as Atlantis is just a nice digression.

If Dr. G. Little or his faithfull minion DESIREE feel that I have insulted them,
I APOLOGIGE BECAUSE I'D HAVE WISHED THAT they showed the same enthousiasm
in studying Plato's Atlantis Dialogue Text, like RIVEN, ATALANTE and 'GEORGEOUS' have.

ARMCHAIR archaeologists study ancient TEXTS and report them to magazines
whereas Famous  ARCHAEOLOGISTS often make falsh conclusions on TV-programms

Dr. H. Schliemann found a Colony of TROY after the original City was burned and abandoned
When he would have conceded that TARSUS/os, was the original TROY nobody would believe him!

in the past I have exactly explained WHY America was regarded as the Original Atlantis( See my
" THREE point or RULE of THUMB to locate the original Atlantis "(= 1: NAME; 2: SEA; 3: DATE!) in several Threads.
but from the little commentary I got, most Atlantologists rever the glamorous-MYTH, not the ( ugly-)TRUTH

Sincerely " BlueHue " dd 18 March -2009

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I have not been challenged yet,for" Insult " or defamation of Character,
by either DESIREE nor Dr G. LITTLEprobably because they find my spelbreaking discovery
below their dignity ! NICE to know that ' BIANCA 'still knows my name(=" ASINO " @!)

CAYCE is a Fraud,

And dr Greg Little a clever forger !


This is called defamation of character and libel! It's grounds for a lawsuit and should be grounds for removal from this board.

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2: Atlantic-OCEAN=Greek: RIVER-of-Atlas+also" Known "World-OCEAN(=Red-Sea)
3: Greek-obsolete-Numeral 'X' caused Plato's Atlantisdate:9000=900
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« Reply #113 on: March 18, 2009, 10:07:14 am »

WOW, this is certainly generating a debate !
 if you are willing to take it on.

We are debating the origin of Atlantis in the Atlantic Ocean here.
I have asked YOU to explain YOUR Theory to me
so we can interchange thoughts and " compare notes "

Instead you spoke of Defamation of Characters
not of defamation or  insisting on a falsh Theory !

THEN, where is the debate on Atlantis proper ?

Don't you know that in Comedy
the Bickering about archaeological discoveries is a common issue ?

In one of French MOVIE Comic of Actor Louis de Funes and Bourville,
a history student meets his old Archaeology Professor on hollyday in Greece

and fulminates about his sacking for the Master's degree because of a right
but unaccepted theory on the ( peacefull-)Doric invasion of Greece,
whereas the Old Professor's theory was one of ( later disproved )

immigrant violence and city sacking. The professor appologized on screen,
but his excuse was that he wanted to " SPICE-up "the really DULL doric invasion
and his only clever ancient History Sudent was torpedoing the regulat theory !

So you see disputes amongst Scholars over essential issues are not new,
but apparently at AO one is not alolowed to question personal opinions as Falsh theories @!

I am sure that
If Dr G. LITTLE
does not communicate HIMSELF to me that he considders to have been insulted
there is no CASE to ban me just because others rthat HIMSELF think so.

After all for
 those who have called me names in the past,
several times there was no question of future  banishment
( Mainly because it was on little read less frequented Topics I guess !

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Should I be banned on insistence of for instance of ' DESIREE '
who has virtually no Profile info to rely on, while mine is open to the public view?!

Sincerely " BlueHue " dd 18 March- 2009 (  from the Polly -Univ. of Delft Holland,)


CAYCE is a Fraud,

And dr Greg Little a clever forger !


This is called defamation of character and libel! It's grounds for a lawsuit and should be grounds for removal from this board.

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2: Atlantic-OCEAN=Greek: RIVER-of-Atlas+also" Known "World-OCEAN(=Red-Sea)
3: Greek-obsolete-Numeral 'X' caused Plato's Atlantisdate:9000=900
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« Reply #114 on: March 18, 2009, 12:10:32 pm »

BlueHue and NO Guests are viewing this Topic.....................

Dear............ ELRIC,

Thank you for ' generating ' this conversation !
I too, have been called names for  pitching " another ordinary theory " ,
for exposing my ' BlueHue " 3 RULES of THUMB "
Most Forum members disagree with these  3 Rules of THUMB
without having read them because they " Don't want to know " anyway.

STAKING a conversation about character offensives
seemed ther only way to attrack reasearch lovers attention.
so I fist got attention by

any comments for upsetting other theories ' Apple- Cart '
I don't take offence myself on character-attacks on my Theory but
I think it is said, that Namecallers have not read my  3 Rules of THUMB

Sticks and stones may hurt my bones but not my Theory insight.

Those who did have said that they did see them, 3 Rules of Thumb,  think nothing of it
BECAUSE, they don't recognize Plato's " Atlantis " in it ( I quote Plato though !)

For those AO Forum members
that have not been having a chance to get aquainted yet,
with my Theory on the " Original " Atlantis, Tppic-threads,
at the Bottom of this Thread-Post I give my Theory secret.

Apology where it is due: DESIREE @!
I apologise for deliberated Character deformation,

but apparently Dr. G. LITTLE has taken no offence
nor argued about my utterance of his as falsh tradition maker !

At least he may have found it beneath his dignity
to respond to my challenge of refute ! or ignored it !
I welcome his learned communication about this issue.
But I realise that he is not in a good position to respond.

Using a little searched almost unknown MYTH of seeking Atlantis for a living:
his head is on the Block and he knows it that People that live in Glass houses
shouldn't throw stones !  ' GEORGEOS ' and HANCOCK did and look where it got them !

ABOUT FALSH  ATLANTIS  THEORIES:
Should 200 million Americans be presented with a fraudulent Theory of Atlantis in America ?
The professional ancient history Theorists and those at TWO recent World-Conferences have decided
that ATLANTIS should mainly be sought in or around the MED not in America.


GO -getters as the Glamorous Myth seeker Dr G. LITTLE
may scorn Armchair-archaeologists, but, have NOT attended those 2 Atlantis-Conferences

' GEORGEOS ' a sort of spanish counterpart of Dr G. LITTLE has contributed more Text-research, to Atlantis whereabouts
than a scuba-diver tour guide with salvage equipment in the Bahama's has filmed concerning Atlantis' proper location

Sincere Atlantis seekers NOT wanted at breadwinning Subject-Symposium
The only KNOWN Atlantis Online member that did go to the last Conference in 2008 in Athens
was booed away because as an amateur ancient-Historian' TITIEA ' was tricked into a GEOLOGY-Symposium.

TV-Channel programms as Discovery and recently: a 10 week SERIES on ten DIFFERENT ATLANTIS THEORIES !
on SCI- FI TV- Channel and maybe ' Atlantis Rising-Magazine", is not glad if their Forum supersedes the Magazine content.
their publishers, are obviously NOT after the " original " Atlantis BECAUSE they exist from reviewing spectacular  weird Atlantis theories

IF the " original " Atlantis were finally found,
the Discoverer would naturally be scorned ,
for Spelbreaking the MYTH !


SEEKING ATLANTIS or the Historical ( ugly )BORING -  Truth ?
The way Atlantis Online is goiing with the proliferation of TOPICS,
reflects the Parkinson's law about the lonely BRIDGE-Attendant
who was supposed to open and close a canal bridge without  company

After All sorts of side-functions and assistants were added to the original bridge-open-controler.
this became too expensive for the Port authority, so they  made a key function redundant and sacked the Bridge-opener.
in the AO case the Bridge-attendant was the original Atlantis seeker, the superficial assistents were Topic fillers.

To hide the ignorance of the average atlantologist
at the 2 Conferences, the interloper:  HELIOTOPOS publishing HOUSE
deviced almost 50 Atlantis -reference -points,  so the poor
Conference attendants could'nt see the Forest from the Trees !

I have discoverred this year, that only THREE Atlantis -reference -Points will do the Trick !

BlueHue's THREE RULES of THUMB
 to locate the " original " Atlantis in Ras- Aden.
( only for those who are really intrested  in reading these !)

1:  .... -ATLANTIS is a fake Latin name,
( the original GREEK name was ATHE, today a region of ADEN.)

Conclusion:
The fugitive Atlanteans from ADEN colonized Europe with Atlantean names.

2:  .... -ATLANTIC - OCEAN is a Fake Latin name,
it is a Latin-contracted Composite  word,
that never existed in that combination.
A derivation from TWO waterbodies called:
Atlantic SEA-of-ATLAS & Known- World Ocean.

Conclusion:
Known World is Araby, Known-World OCEAN= the Red Sea(= Sinus Arabicus.)

3:  .... -PLATO's Atlantis DATES were exaggerated by TEN
NOT because egyptian hieroglyph( "- Keth -") Misreading, but
the GREEK numeral, for 1.000 (= " X " )was mistaken for the Latin
Sign of " Multiply-by- TEN " (= " x " )

CONCLUSION:
Atlantis was not an OCEAN- ISLE in the present Atlantic, but a Volcano-kingdom in South- Arabia -FoELIX.

If any Forum member chooses to ignore these THREE" Rules of THUMB.
He does so either to spite me or to fool himself or the grand Public. Or he did not want to know, and thus not read it !

STATEMENT : my original AIM at this FORUM: since 2007
I have entered THIS AO-Forum on the understanding that

I was to Pitch a PRE - Warning
to  the Forum members of falsh theories. and wrong translations
from Plato's Atlantis Satire/ " off the Textus- Receptus "
to mark it that they were ( unwittingly-) trying to bark up a wrong tree.

To stir the current conventions of an Atlantic island I tried to convey Plato's original Text
in the past 800 posts, but Text was superseded by random GEOLOGY theories. I regret that I had undeservingly to offend

some people's initiative,  by upsetting their " Apple-Cart " ( Like ' BIANCA ' Mario -DANTAS ' &  Dr. G. LITTLE. Dr Reinhard KUHNE etc.)
May I be banned for Spell-breaking and telling the unwrapped- untold  truth ?!

NONE took heed( to their own expence, )
( except ' JULIA ', who left to her own Forum.)
I rest my case.

Sincerely " BlueHue
 " dd 18 March- 2009  Cry Shocked Cry
From: the Polly-University of Delft / Holland.

PS
are ' DESIREE ' and ' Dr G. LITTLE '
hiding their Profiles for a purpose ?

I agree.  Bluehue,
refrain from these sorts of character attacks upon board members in the future or else we shall have to ban you.
You have been warned.
At Post-Bottom my dissident THEORY -in -a Nut-Shell . ( most LEARNED comment was:  " I don't understand it " ) Cry
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3: Greek-obsolete-Numeral 'X' caused Plato's Atlantisdate:9000=900
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« Reply #115 on: March 24, 2009, 06:29:49 am »

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    Re: Drs. Greg & Lora Little On History Channel Series - Summer 2009
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Hello, it's been awhile. For a quick update, we have recently made 3 documentaries with 2 Canadian tv networks, one the International History Channel and the other 2 with Vision tv. Those are on Atlantis, Cayce's 1940 prediction, and one on underwater cities for the series "Go Deep." Those 3 combined with the other 2 that will be on the History Channel this summer is a lot. The past year I completed a massive book that I have long been working on, "The Illustrated Encyclopedia of Native American Mounds and Earthworks." It is a detailed listing of mound sites and took a lot of time. But we also made several long expeditions. At Bimini we found the most definitive evidence ever found that the stone structure there is manmade. That will show on the fourth episode of a new series on History, with their premiere episode on the Bermuda Triangle and some of our finds there. We return to Andros in early April (09) to shoot a short piece for a completely different series and have agreed to do another show with The National Geographic Channel sometime in the next 2 months, all in the Bahamas. There also are tentative plans for more documentaries on Cayce's 3 Hall of Records, mounds, and several more Bermuda Triangle shows as we keep finding "planes" and other "things" that were reported lost there. Yes, I do think that Bimini was a part of Atlantis as was Andros and the Great Bahama Bank and Cuba, etc. The main evidence of Atlantis (to me) is at the 90-foot level on an ancient shoreline...about 5 miles off Bimini. Over the past year the ARE has done side-scan sonar of the entire area as well as using an rov to get video...there is a lot of video. None of that has been shown. When the weather is right we'll do a close inspection of it.

In addition, a new ARE Press imprint called 4th Dimension Press, is releasing a new book by Andrew Collins probably in June. It is called "Beneath the Pyramids" and will show, indeed, things beneath Giza. It is a stunning stunning discovery that will be big news.

With respect to several questions, we got our own boat to explore and that has simply led us to looking carefully around in the Bahamas, especially on the Great Bahama Bank. Our plan is to search it thoroughly. On our last trip we found, on the last day, a spot that appears to be a collapsed stone building. The site is actually surrounded by several crashed planes. It is all incredible really. It is about 65 miles south of Bimini in the middle of nothing but a lot of shallow water.

By the way, I ran our boat into the middle of AUTEC's harbor at night...by mistake. Now that was interesting and a story not likely to see the light of day. The 2 shows this summer, which I think air in June, will show how harrowing some of that expedition really was. The production team that went along had never done anything like it. It was scary because it was very windy and there were some big waves...and we have a small boat.

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« Reply #116 on: May 02, 2009, 11:24:38 am »

Just a brief update. My wife Lora and I returned from the Bahamas a day ago after filming for a "Bermuda Triangle" show that will air on the National Geographic Channel. We had found an intriguing plane underwater during one of our earlier trips and had no time to investigate it then. For this show we completely focused on this plane. At the moment--pending final ID on several plane part numbers we retrieved-- we believe it is one of the most important and mysterious disappearances in the region. (No, it is NOT a Flight-19 plane, but we can't release more details on it yet.) I don't know when that show will air, but I have seen the film the Nat Geo crew shot of the investigation. They were far more excited about it than we were. By the way, they also shot a series of film "blog" reports they will post on the Nat Geo website. These are candid and somewhat humorous clips, a few of which I shot. They aren't posted yet as far as I can tell.

Oddly, while there, we were asked in a phone call and we subsequently agreed to go back this coming week with a History Channel crew to perform an analysis on a deep water set of structures first found by archaeologist Bill Donato in a side-scan sonar project. Our subsequent visit to the site yielded an intriguing photo of what looks like building foundations on the bottom. We leave in a few days and will be accompanied by Donato and the film crew and substantial back-up technology to accomplish this. This could potentially yield very big news and there has been an incredible amount of other research in this area that we can't discuss yet. The show is due to air in late June or July and could instantly change the way the Bahamas are viewed archaeologically. This will be the culmination of a lot of work by a whole lot of people. Lora and I are just the latest in a long line of people who have spent their own money and devoted their time to truly uncover what is actually there. The formations we are investigating are located just above the 10,000 BC shoreline--the time of Plato and Cayce's Atlantis.

One more little detail. As many know we investigated the alleged pyramids in Florida and found nothing. We also had plans to look around the Berry Islands for a pyramid supposedly found by Dr. Ray Brown in the early 70's. Our main Bahama contact has been conducting preliminary searches in the Berry chain for us and now we suspect that what Brown found back then may have finally been located. If we have time and the weather is good, we'll take a detour next week to have a close look--both filming and photographing it. I have a good description of it, but until we actually document it, there is no reason to give that description. I know a lot of people have long been interested in the Ray Brown story and it may actually have a basis.

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Oddly, while there, we were asked in a phone call and we subsequently agreed to go back this coming week with a History Channel crew to perform an analysis on a deep water set of structures first found by archaeologist Bill Donato in a side-scan sonar project.


Thank you for getting Bill involved.  We (APEX) had planned an expedition to the site in July (me included operating equipment on the ship) until this trip with the History Channel came up. 

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« Reply #118 on: May 15, 2009, 09:40:33 pm »

We have now posted our results from the most recent Bimini expeditions. I think many people will find it quite intriguing.

The article is here: http://mysterious-america.net/may2009biminirep.html

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Thank you, Greg!


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as always,

the best to you, too....
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