The John Titor Project

[Spirit of Vengeance]

The ATS John Titor Project
Archiving the history of comments and statements
made by "time traveler", John Titor.

Special thanks to ATS member titan for reformatting the HTML of this material

This material is the result of the hard work of several ATS members who contributed to the "John Titor Research Project" with additional help from Valhall and Springer. AboveTopSecret.com does not make any claim as to the authenticity or possible accuracy of the claims made by this person, John Titor, instead, this material is offered for an intellectual analysis and discussion of the information contained.




The SkepticOverlord's Introduction:

At some time in early November of 2000, someone showed up in a few Internet discussion boards calling themselves Timetravel_0. Over time, they then laid claim to the real name, John Titor, a time traveler from the year 2036. From there, the name John Titor will forever be embedded in the folklore of both alternative-topic boards like ATS, and the Internet as a whole.

As many will recall, one of the first things Titor did was post pictures of his time machine and his operations manual. As the days, weeks, and months went by, people began questioning Titor about his presence "in our timeline", the seeming impossibility of the physics of time travel and his thoughts about the issues of our time. He also posted on other Internet discussion boards including the old Art Bell site. In his posts John Titor often entertained, enraged, frightened and belittled those who engaged him in mostly one-sided conversation.

On March 24, 2001, John Titor announced he would be leaving our time and returning to 2036. After that, he was never heard from again. Speculation and investigation about who John Titor was and why he was online (curiously focusing his efforts on conspiracy community discussion boards) continues to this day.

Although many find it easy to dismiss all this as either science fiction or an elaborate extended hoax, there are those who still read his information and agree that there is something very troubling about John Titor and what he had to say. I was present during many of his postings and at the time, didn't pay much attention, immediately dismissing it as just another Internet hoax. However, as time goes by, many point to current-day details that seem to corroborate Titor's stories, and even others feel his exact predictions have come to pass. Others have even compiled his contributions into the book, John Titor A Time Traveler's Tale.

AboveTopSecret.com is presenting the contributions and posting of John Titor as a result of the hard work of several members who participated in our research project focused on gathering all the data before it was lost from free online access. We believe this is the most complete and accurate archive of John Titor information available for free. The information is provided without official commentary of any type. Review the information, discuss, debate, and draw your own conclusions.

-SkepticOverlord.


02 November 2000 01:00 (about time travel) 1
I saw the posting requsting the basic systems for a gravity distortion system that will allow time travel. Here they are:
Magnetic housing units for dual microsignularities.
Electron injection manifold to alter mass and gravity of microsingularities.
Cooling and x-ray venting system
Gravity sensors (VGL system)
Main clocks (4 cesium units)
Main computer units (3)

02 November 2000 01:16 (about time travel) 2
Grandfather paradox Suppose you could go back in time, lets say several decades and found your grandfather when he was two years old. In his house you could grab a knife and stab him to death. He doesn't get the chance to have children with your grandmother. Therefore either your mother or father doesn't get born. Your parents can't give birth to you because one of them don't exist. You could never have been born and don't even exist. But could your grandfather have been killed by someone who doesn't exist? He must have lived through his childhood. This would allow you to exist if this is the case. Seemingly you can go back in time to commit the murder if you are born but then you would never have been born. And so on and so on. This situation is not consistent with itself. It doesn't make sense and can't possibly happen.
Solutions: [...]
2, A parallel universe might be created when you seem to change the past. Imagine if time itself was just like a tree. The different branches show different ways events could have happened. Every time we decide to do or not to do something time splits. Even if we are not aware we decided something it have affects. Quantum physics reveals a many worlds theory like this. Conclusion Since this parallel universe is not really your past (despite it's first appearance) anything you do there does not affect you. You can prevent a version of yourself from being born because you are not really related to anyone there. They just look very like your family and friends. You are not home! You may be somewhere that looks like the place you live but a different universe in quantum physics is a completely different reality.))
By the way, #2 is the correct answer and the basics for time travel start at CERN in about a year and end in 2034 with the first "time machine" built by GE. Too bad we can't post pictures or I'de show it to you.

05 November 2000 03:29 (about time travel) 3
Questions for timetravel_0 with permission to post.
Pamela: by the way can you tell me what it feels like to time travel? when you are in the process of doing it what does it feel like and what do you see and hear. you made mention that you had to get use to the fields. Do you see a bright flash of light?
Timetravel_0: Interesting first question. The unit has a ramp up time after the destination coordinates are fed into the computers. An audible alarm and a small light start a short countdown at which point you should be secured in a seat. The gravity field generated by the unit overtakes you very quickly. You feel a tug toward the unit similar to rising quickly in an elevator and it continues to rise based on the power setting the unit is working under. At 100% power, the constant pull of gravity can be as high as 2 Gs or more depending on how close you are to the unit. There are no serious side effects but I try to avoid eating before a flight. No bright flash of light is seen. Outside, the vehicle appears to accelerate as the light is bent around it. We have to wear sunglasses or close our eyes as this happens due to a short burst of ultraviolet radiation. Personally I think it looks like your driving under a rainbow. After that, it appears to fade to black and remains totally black until the unit is turned off. We are advised to keep the windows closed as a great deal of heat builds up outside the car. The gravity field also traps a small air pocket around the car that acts as your only O2 supply unless you bring compressed air with you. This pocket will only last for a short period and a carbon sensor tells us when it's too dangerous. The C204 unit is accurate from 50 to 60 years a jump and travels at about 10 years an hour at 100% power. You do hear a slight hum as the unit operates and when the power changes or the unit turns off. There is a great deal of electrical crackling noise from static electricity.

05 November 2000 03:29 (about the future) 4
Pamela: 1. what are some of your memories of 2036?
Timetravel_0: I remember 2036 very clearly. It is difficult to describe 2036 in detail without spending a great deal of time explaining why things are so different. In 2036, I live in central Florida with my family and I'm currently stationed at an Army base in Tampa . A world war in 2015 killed nearly three billion people. The people that survived grew closer together. Life is centered around the family and then the community. I can not imagine living even a few hundred miles away from my parents. There is no large industrial complex creating masses of useless food and recreational items. Food and livestock is grown and sold locally. People spend much more time reading and talking together face to face. Religion is taken seriously and everyone can multiple and divide in the heads.

05 November 2000 03:29 (about time travel) 5
Pamela: 3.what would happen if you would meet yourself on another world line?
Timetravel_0: It has always surprised me why that concept is so hard for people to imagine and accept. Nothing would happen. The universe would not end and there are no paradox problems that threaten existence. Temporal space-time is made up of every possible quantum state. The Everett Wheeler model is correct. I have met and/or seen myself twice on different world lines. The first was a training mission and the second is now. I was born in 1998 so the other "me" is 2 on this world line. There is a saying where I come from....Every possible thing that can happen or will happen has already happened somewhere.

05 November 2000 03:29 (about time travel) 6
Pamela: 4.How is this world line different from your own?
Timetravel_0: For starters....the fact that I'm here makes it different. I've also noticed little things like news events that happen at different times, football games won by other teams...things like that. I would guess the temporal divergence between this world line and my original is about 1 or 2 percent. Of course, the longer I am here, the larger that divergence becomes from my point of view.

05 November 2000 03:29 (about time travel) 7
Pamela: 6.Are you having normal dreams right now? any out of body experiences? drawing you to different times? Do you dream you wake up in other places and other times?
TimeTravel_0: No strange dreams or other experiences. Everything is pretty much the way I expected it.

05 November 2000 03:29 (about time travel) 8
Pamela: 7.are you able to control where you go or is it random?
Timetravel_0: Yes, it can be controlled. However, the distortion unit has operational limits. Imagine your path through time is through a cone. The farther away from the center of the cone, the more differences you will see in the world line. The C204 begins to "break away" at about 60 years. This means the level of confidence drops rapidly after 60 years of travel and the world line divergence increases. In other words, if I wanted to go back 2000 years and meet Christ, there is a better than average chance I would end up on a world line where he was never born. The computer units and gravity sensors "record" your trip and you are quite easily able to return to your point of origin. I am aware that research is being done on faster units with more accurate clocks. I imagine that they will be able to go back farther with a higher degree of divergence confidence.

05 November 2000 03:29 (about time travel) 9
Pamela: 8. are you feeling drawn back to your own time or are you stable in this world?
Timetravel_0: I'm not sure what you mean by stable. If you mean mentally...there are many things that bother me here but being with my parents right now is important to me. Physically, the only thing really wrong is the number of colds I get.

05 November 2000 03:29 (about time travel) 10
Pamela: 9.Are you able to go back to your own world line?
Timetravel_0: Yes.

05 November 2000 03:29 (about time travel) 11
Pamela: 10.how are you protecting yourself from radiation? it alters DNA if you dont.
Timetravel_0: I'm not sure what radiation you mean. If you mean from the unit, you can see it vents X-rays and Gamma radiation out of the rear. As long as you stay away from that, you should be okay. I keep a radiation detector with me to check my environment and make sure the unit isn't "leaking".

05 November 2000 03:29 (about time travel) 12
Pamela: 11.How long would you say that ultraviolet radiation lasts? about 10 seconds? and when you are in that light can you see anything around you or does the light kind of "fill up" everything and that is all you can see at the time?
Timetravel_0: The light bending only lasts a second. Its like driving under a tunnel and being in total black.

05 November 2000 03:29 (about time travel) 13
Pamela: 12.Do your people know where you are right now? Can you communicate with them? do you have a biological implant?
Timetravel_0: No. They do not know where I am and I can not communicate with them. Interesting idea though. From their point of view, I will return almost exactly at the same moment I left. From their viewpoint, I will only have aged more than expected.

05 November 2000 03:29 (about time travel) 14
Pamela: 13. after the flash of light is gone are you then in another time? what does it look like as the new time unfolds? Is it just there? or does it slowly come into view? does it fade in and out for a time?
Timetravel_0: While the machine is on. Everything is black. When the machine is turned off, it is the reverse affect. It appears you are driving out from a bridge. To tell you the truth, I'm usually sleeping when the unit turns off but yes...it does appear that the world fades in from black.

05 November 2000 03:29 (about time travel) 15
Pamela: 14. what happens if the device messes up? Do you end up in space? if it goes offline and shifts ? does a hole open elsewhere?
Timetravel_0: Good question!!! That one almost never comes up. The hard part of traveling through time is not the bending of gravity but the plotting of your course and holding to the basic "position" in your environment. This is done through a system called VGL (variable gravity lock). Basically, the unit takes a reading of the local gravity and samples it during the "trip" in pulses. If the gravity is too far off, the unit stops or reverses itself to the last sample period where the readings were correct. If there is some sort of failure, the unit shuts down and drops out to where ever you may be.

05 November 2000 03:29 (about time travel) 16
Pamela: 15. what affects are caused on the immediate area where the gravity has been distorted after you leave it and when you arrive? are there permanent effects left on the land such as electromagnetic disturbances in that area?
Timetravel_0: Another good question!!! The only real physical trace is a large chunk of ground missing from the point of origin and a large pile of dirt at the destination. The gravity field surrounds a small portion of the earth under you and takes it along for the ride. There is really no way around this.

06 November 2000 09:04 (about time travel) 17
Yes, you can travel forward in time. No, you do not need an ?invite? from the future.

06 November 2000 09:04 (about time travel) 18
You do not rewrite history. I can only affect what happens here just as easily as you can

06 November 2000 09:08 (about the future) 19
No, the ice caps are not melting any faster than they are now. There is also far less smog and industrial waste in 2036.

06 November 2000 16:43 (about the future) 20
You asked about the North Polar ice pack. I never said the environment wasn't a problem. Doesn't water expand when it freezes? If the polar ice cap melted, wouldn't sea level go down? I don't know if there's enough ice for this to make a difference and I'm not an expert on global warming.

06 November 2000 16:43 (about time travel) 21
Getting back to my ?proper? universe is tricky but possible. Yes, another jump would take me to a different family.

06 November 2000 16:43 (about time travel) 22
Cement block?good question. The hard part of traveling to other world lines is just that. There is a system of clocks and gravity sensors that sample the environment before dropping out. Its called VGL, (variable gravity lock). If a cement block were there, the machine would ?backtrack? until it sensed relative congruity to the original gravity sample. A great deal of time and effort goes into picking just the right spot since you can not physically move during a displacement.

06 November 2000 22:13 (about time travel) 23
Pamela: 1. can you explain to me in detail the basic physics and mathematics behind how the machine operates? and exactly how it distorts gravity.
Timetravel_0: 1) Time travel is achieved by altering gravity. This concept is already proven by atomic clock experiments. The closer an observer is to a gravity source (high mass), the slower time passes for them. Traveling at high speeds mimics this effect which = the twin paradox of faster than light travel. However, this type of gravity manipulation is not sufficient to alter your world line. The basic math to alter world lines exists right now. Tipler first described a working "time machine" through his theory of massive rotating spheres. I apologize for the web site but it was the only one I could find quickly. www.geocities.com... Certain types of black holes also exhibit the "time travel" abilities of Tipler cylinders. Kerr was one of the first to describe the dual event horizons of a rotating black hole. As with Tipler's cylinders, it was possible to travel on a "time-like" trip through a Kerr black hole and end up in a different world line without being squished by the gravity of the singularity. www.physics.fsu.edu... qso.lanl.gov... www.leonllo.freeservers.com... www.astro.ku.dk... (deleted)....................................................... The mass and gravitational field of a microsingularity can then be manipulated by "injecting" electrons onto its surface. By rotating two electric microsigularities at high speed, it is possible to create and modify a local gravity sinusoid that replicates the affects of a Kerr black hole. For those asking how come a microsingularity doesn't swallow the Earth or want to know details about the size, stability, mass, temperature and resulting Hawking radiation from such a thing.. those details I must keep to myself.

06 November 2000 22:13 (about time travel) 24
Pamela: 2. can you travel to the future as well as the past? my understanding of the machine is the trip is recorded so you can get back to your original time line but what about a future beyond your time line are you able to access it as well? or does it have to be open by a future chrononaunt?
Timetravel_0: Yes, you can travel into the future and it takes less energy than going into the past.

06 November 2000 22:13 (about time travel) 25
Pamela: 3.I dont see the computer in the device. is it the hand held device on the side of the larger device? If so what kind of power supply does the computer work off of is it the battery as well or some type of crystal?
Timetravel_0: The computer system is connected to the unit through an electrical bus. There are actually three computers linked together that take the same signals from the gravity sensors and clocks. They use a Borda error correcting protocol that checks the integrity of the data and trips the VGL system.

06 November 2000 22:13 (about time travel) 26
Pamela:4.Is your DNA remaining stable in this world or does it shift? does time traveling affect your body or aura or spirit in any way you know of?
timetravel_o: 4) I am not aware of any physical change to my DNA or "aura". I do however seem to be more susceptible to colds.

06 November 2000 22:13 (about time travel) 27
Pamela: 5. when you go back to the future will we remember you?
Time travel_0: Yes, you will remember me if you want to. World lines do not change that way and I will only become a insignificant part of your history.

07 November 2000 17:18 (about time travel) 28
I would equate the "future" GM distortion units to their current jet engines. The first one worked great but they can always make it better. The C204 unit uses 4 cesium clocks. The C206 uses 6 cesium clocks but they use an optical system to check the oscillation frequency. This makes the world line divergance confidence much higher.

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07 November 2000 21:23 (about the future) 29
pamela: 1.I will ask you about your environment then and I want to know about the family life and also about your religion. what religion has survived? Do you believe in Jesus Christ or someone else. Do people still pray to God? Do you still have churches?
timetravel_0: Yes I believe in Jesus Christ and we pray to God in churches. There aresome differences you may be interested in. Religion is a major part ofpeoples life in 2036. Pain and change tend to bring people together andcloser to God. However, religion is far more personal than it is now. There are no huge, centralized religions and people talk openly about theirbeliefs. It might also interest you to know that the day of worship is Saturday, the day God meant to be the Sabbath and the 10 commandments have been restored to the "10" that God gave us.

07 November 2000 21:23 (about the future) 30
pamela: 2. what kind of jobs do people do and do they still work long hours? whats the majority of job types in the future?
timetravel_0: Life is much more rural in the future but "high" technology is used to communicate and travel. People raise a great deal of their own food and do more "farm" work. Yes, compared to now, we do work long hours. After the war, my father made a living selling oranges up and down the West coast of Florida . My closest friend raises horses and another works for a company that maintains "wireless" internet nodes.

07 November 2000 21:23 (about the future) 31
pamela: 3.what is a typical day like for someone in your time? do you still havethe internet? has it advanced to all virtual reality yet? what type of diseases are you currently dealing with? are there still advances in science?
timetravel_0: A typical day...hmmm. Life has changed so much over my lifetime that it's hard to pin down a "normal" day. When I was 13, I was a soldier. As a teenager, I helped my dad haul cargo. I went to college when I was 31 and I was recruited to "time travel" shortly after that. Again...I suppose an average day in 2036 is like an average day on the farm.

07 November 2000 21:23 (about the future) 32
pamela: 4.Is there still a post office? how do you receive messages from one another? you said most people talk face to face.
timetravel-0: Yes...there is a post office. The internet is still alive and well in the future. People spend more time talking because life is more centered around the community. I've noticed the same type of effect here when the power goes off. People tend to come out of their homes and actually spend time with their neighbors. There is a lot more personal trust and less paranoia.

07 November 2000 21:23 (about the future) 33
pamela: 5.what type of houseing do you live in?
timetravel_0: When I'm with my parents, I live in a community made up of "tree houses" on a large river in Florida . The river floods sometimes and we have access to the Gulf. Most of our neighbors make a living off the sea or in moving cargo by boat.

07 November 2000 21:23 (about the future) 34
pamela: 6.what started the war? and who fought in it? who won?what countries were destroyed and what survived?
timetravel_0: Wow...that's a big question. There is a civil war in the United States that starts in 2005. That conflict flares up and down for 10 years. In 2015, Russia launches a nuclear strike against the major cities in the United States (which is the "other side" of the civil war from my perspective), China and Europe . The United States counter attacks. The US cities are destroyed along with the AFE (American Federal Empire)...thus we (in the country) won. The European Union and China were also destroyed. Russia is now our largest trading partner and the Capitol of the US was moved to Omaha Nebraska .

07 November 2000 21:23 (predictions for the future) 35
There is a civil war in the United States that starts in 2005

07 November 2000 21:23 (predictions for the future) 36
In 2015, Russia launches a nuclear strike against the major cities in the United States (which is the "other side" of the civil war from my perspective), China and Europe .

07 November 2000 21:23 (predictions for the future) 37
The US cities are destroyed along with the AFE (American Federal Empire)...thus we (in the country) won.

07 November 2000 21:23 (predictions for the future) 38
The European Union and China were also destroyed.

07 November 2000 21:23 (about the future) 39
Russia is now our largest trading partner and the Capitol of the US was moved to Omaha Nebraska .

07 November 2000 21:23 (about the future) 40
pamela: 7.did you ever discover what aliens were and ufos?
timetravel_0: No new information there. I find that an interesting subject myself. Personally, I think "UFOs" might be time travelers with very sophisticated distortion units. But that might be a bit wacky.

07 November 2000 21:23 (about the future) 41
pamela: 8. what type of environmental problems do you know of that exist? do you have pure water to drink? are you mostly vegetarian-seems how most people are going that way today.
timetravel_0: One of the biggest reasons why food production is localized is because the environment is so screwed up with disease and radiation. We are making huge strides in getting it cleaned up. Water is produced on a community level and we do eat meat..that we raise ourselves.

07 November 2000 21:23 (about the future) 42
pamela: 9. are they still messing around with genetics? and altering the food and animals?
timetravel_0: Yes...genetic engineering is used but it's like any other technology. It can be good and bad. One thing we did not do was create more hybrid seeds. What are people thinking???

07 November 2000 21: (safety, suggestions, assorted philosophy) 43
I do not believe faith alone is enough to get us back to God. I'm not sure what happens when we die but I'm pretty sure it's not a walk in the park.

07 November 2000 21:23 (about the future) 44
pamela: 11. do you have an advances in spacetravel or exploration?
timetravel_0: No. We are working on it.

07 November 2000 21:23 (about the future) 45
pamela: 12. what new inventions do we have to look forward to?
timetravel_0: Hmmm....I hesitate to answer but I'll give a bit. Hydrogen fuel cells and more efficient solar cells are big deals. Computer technology and software gets MUCH better.

07 November 2000 21:23 (about the future) 46
As a community, we celebrate much more and have bon fires and dances.

07 November 2000 21:23 (about the future) 47
pamela: 14. what are your schools and universities like?
timetravel_0: After the war, early new communities gathere
d around the current Universities. That's where the libraries were. I went to school at Fort UF which is now called the University of Florida . Not too much is different except the military is large part of people's life and we spend a great deal of time in the fields and farms at the "University" or Fort.

07 November 2000 21:23 (about the future) 48
Yes, we have cameras. More digital. Film is used like painting is today. No hologram camera though.

07 November 2000 21:23 (about the future) 49
pamela: 16. do you still have telephones? what is your major source of energy that you use? solar power? electricity? have you discovered new energies.
timetravel_0: Yes we have phones but the service is through the web. Most power generation is localized. It amazes me how much power is wasted now. Yes, solar is big. There is thought that a singularity generator could also be used but most people are against it.

07 November 2000 21:23 (about the future) 50
pamela: 17. how do you take care of your elderly? and your poor and your orphans? and the ones who cannot work?
timetravel_0: The elderly are highly revered and looked after on a community level. So are orphans. There is always something people can do now matter what. The idea of avoiding work is looked down on. Everyone pulls together to keep the COMMUNITY strong.

07 November 2000 21:23 (about the future) 51
pamela: 18. what is the dress style of the time what do you wear on your bodies as a style?
timetravel_0: Hats are more common in the future and flashy colors are less common. Dress is much more functional and we "dress up" when ever we get a chance. I have noticed that no one in this time dresses for occasions even when they have the clothes. Why do people wear shorts to church?

07 November 2000 21:23 (about the future) 52
pamela: 19. do people wear their hair differently than we do?every generation has a different style what is the style of your time? what is popular for kids to wear? for adults to wear?
timetravel-0: We do not spend nearly the amount of time on our hair as people do now. Women like to wear their hair longer and men have it much shorter. Both sexes shave it all off when they're in active military service.

07 November 2000 21:23 (about the future) 53
pamela: 20. are surgeries mostly performed by lasars? or were there new technologies developed?
timetravel_o: Far less medical treatment in the future even though its more advanced. People die when they now its time to die. No lasers. Genetic medicine and cloning organs are the obvious new techs in the future.

07 November 2000 21:23 (about the future) 54
pamela: 21. do you still have the current form of government, presidents and vice presidents like we do?
timetravel_0: No. The Constitution was changed after the war. We have 5 presidents that are voted in and out on different term periods. The vice president is the president of the senate and they are voted separately.

07 November 2000 21:23 (about the future) 55
pamela: 22. how do you get from one place to another with not many cars around.do you teleport from one place to another?
timetravel_0: We have cars...just not a whole bunch of them. There is public transportation from city to city.

07 November 2000 22:18 (about time travel) 56
Yes, you could travel to a future that was 0.5 seconds ahead of now but not with my machine. The C204 uses the second as the basic unit of measure. The C206 may be capable of .05 sec.

07 November 2000 22:18 (about time travel) 57
(In the same vien, if you just happened to arrive at "the year 2000" a fraction of a second in my past, or future would I ever know that you just 'landed soonby"?)
No "you" would not. But the "you" on that world line would.

07 November 2000 22:18 (about time travel) 58
(In other words, what makes this time line be 'now' at any given moment versus being any other time. We exist as A point on a time LINE, what is it that defines that point?)
It is believed there are some sort of measurable quantum differences in world lines. I am not an expert on that so I can offer little information.

07 November 2000 22:18 (about the future) 59
(As far as how wonderfull your people are in the time after the war I'm very happy for you. Maybe they succeded in wiping out the RIGHT 3billion people.)
Yes, we did.

08 November 2000 22:27 (about time travel) 60
(1.Without going into detail what you are here specifically for can you please explain what the primary purpose of time travel is in the future?)
In 2036, a great deal of effort is going into "repairing" our environment. I was sent to 1975 to get a computer system and take it back to 2036. Time travel is not a secret in 2036 and I expect it will become more common.

08 November 2000 22:27 (about time travel) 61
(2.Why it is used and how often to your knowledge it is used.?)
Right now, its used to get information or "items" that would be helpful in getting a post WWIII world back to a normal condition. There are 7 other time travelers in my unit.

08 November 2000 22:27 (about time travel) 62
(3.Are there specific time periods time .travelers go to most?)
Right now, most of our practical missions are from 1960 to 1980. There is a great deal of research into later and future periods but the farther you go, the lower the divergence confidence of the world line.

08 November 2000 22:27 (about time travel) 63
(4.you stated there were several time machines available are they all active at this time to your knowledge?)
Yes.

08 November 2000 22:27 (about time travel) 64
(5.What kind of car are you going to go back in since you sold the Chevy?)
It's a 1987 4WD. The vehicle needs a strong suspension system to handle the weight of the distortion unit.

08 November 2000 22:27 (about time travel) 65
(6.Are you able to take people with you in the same car back to your time or another time?)
Yes.

11 November 2000 18:46 (about time travel) 66
(If you change "vehical" do you have to re-calibrate the unit?)
Yes. But its a function of the VGL system. A gravity baseline is taken and rechecked every thime the unit is used. A new vehicle would alter the gravity signature.

11 November 2000 18:46 (about time travel) 67
(What kind of coils are used to contain, and maintain the singularity?)
I am not a phycist so I can not answer that to your level of sophistication. The singularities are held in an enclosed magnetic field.

11 November 2000 18:46 (about time travel) 68
Can your unit also dimensionally travel?)
No. However, the longer the unit is on past a safe divergance confidence, the "stranger" the world line becomes. The unit I have is safe to about 1% for every sixty years at max power.

11 November 2000 18:56 (about time travel) 69
(If your conveyence is accurate to one second then you must have a reason for picking the particular second or at least particular day or week, you did.)
My goal was to reach a certain date and time which is converted into seconds for the computer to make its calculations. I do not pick the second. Its more important to have a low divergance confidence number.

11 November 2000 18:56 (safety, suggestions, assorted philosophy) 70
(Let me guess, you are here NOW to look at the unusual hung election we have going on. Or maybe this is the trigger event in the comming world wide econmic meltdown? Some other piviot point in history? Fess up. Why now?)
I would use the word "elections" a bit cautiously. Perhaps its easier now to see a civil war in your future?

11 November 2000 19:11 (about time travel) 71
(10 years an hour? from 2036 wouldnt that take three+ hours?? how could you survive with merly the pocket of air you caught in your vehicle's field??)
Yes...that's about right but my initial trip was to 1975, not 2000. I guess its a question of how many technical details you really want or you feel I'm making up. We do take addtional 02 and the air pocket is a bit larger than you might think.

12 November 2000 16:41 (predictions for the future) 72
I am here for personal reasons. For a few months now, I have bee trying to alert anyone that would listen to the possibility of a civil war in the United States in 2005.

12 November 2000 16:41 (past predictions) 73
I am curious? will anyone be upset if Florida?s votes are not counted in the Electoral College because of the current ?confusion??

[Spirit of Vengeance]

15 November 2000 14:12 (safety, suggestions, assorted philosophy) 74
(The one thing that you are REALLY REALLY NOT supposed to do is show up with something that might be percieved to be "dangerous".)
Have you considered that your society might be better off if half of you were dead?

15 November 2000 14:20 (predictions for the future) 75
It is a mistake to give anyone your unwavering belief...but you will find that out yourself in 2005.

15 November 2000 14:33 (about time travel) 76
(One last question, Can anybody operate the 204 unit? Or is it safe guarded by a "key of some kind? Thanks for answering. Yes, you would be welcome at my home.)
The unit has two security systems to protect it from "most" people. One, it has a code that must be entered correctly. Second, and probably more effective now, the unit can not be used by anyone who can't add and subtract.

15 November 2000 14:41 (about time travel) 77
The first "leg" of my trip was from 2036 to 1975. After two VGL checks, the divergance was estimated at about 2.5% (from my 2036). I was "sent" to get an IBM computer system called the 5100. It was one the first portable computers made and it has the ability to read the older IBM programming langages in addition to APL and Basic. We need they system to "debug" various lagacy computer programs in 2036. UNIX has a problem in 2038.

17 November 2000 09:34 (about time travel) 78
It is thought that being close to a gravitational field has a biological effect on all matter including cells. The effect is to slow the movement of electrons in the orbits of their nucleus which thus slows the mechanical and bilological functions of the observer close to the gravity. Thus the passing of time is a local phenomenon depending on how close you are to a gravitational source. This is one example of a theory involving "time shells" progressing in size and intensity around a gravitational point from all matter. The more massive the object, the larger and more influencial the time shells around it (like an onion). Another offshoot of this theory is that kinetic energ

20 November 2000 17:16 (about time travel) 79
(You sold your 67' when you got here? how do you expect to get back?!)
The unit is portable between vehicles. It is very heavy and requires a "stiff" suspension. The unit is currently in a 4WD.

20 November 2000 17:16 (safety, suggestions, assorted philosophy) 80
What you do on your world line is your own business. I can't think of any better way to start a war than for someone to figure out how to make a time machine. Go for it.

21 November 2000 10:41 (past predictions) 81
For a change, I have a question for all of you. I want you to think?think very hard. What major disaster was expected and prepared for in the last year and a half that never happened?

21 November 2000 10:41 (about the future) 82
On my world line, life is not easy. We live in a world recovering from years of war, poison, destruction and hate. All of it, courtesy of the thinking and actions of people that live right now in the same world you do, worrying about which stocks to buy or whether or not a stranger is lying to them on the internet.

21 November 2000 10:41 () 83
My first experience with war came when I joined a shotgun infantry unit at the age of thirteen. In the 4 years I served as a ?rebel?, I watched hundreds of people get shot, burn and bleed to death. I know exactly where I was and every detail of the exact moment the first nuclear warheads began falling on Jacksonville.

21 November 2000 10:41 (predictions for the future) 84
I know exactly where I was and every detail of the exact moment the first nuclear warheads began falling on Jacksonville.

21 November 2000 10:41 (right now) 85
While you sit by and watch your Constitution being torn away from you, you willfully eat poisoned food, buy manufactured products no one needs and turn an uncaring eye away from millions of people suffering and dying all around you.

22 November 2000 20:58 (about time travel) 86
Pamela: 1.What exactly would an observer see as they saw you arriving in this time? and exactly what would they see as you departed? would you just appear suddenly or slowly? would you look like a heat mirage for awhile? any light effects? or hazy misty shimmering distortion?
Time travel_0- The observation of time travelers "appearing" suddenly in a world line do not happen very often. There are two cases and two points of view to consider. In the first case, the time machine does not move as it goes from one world line to another and then returns. The people watching on the original world linewould wave good bye and watch as the machine is turned on. There would be a static discharge and the air would appear to "ripple" as if it were getting denser. Then, it would stop and the machine will have appeared to have gone no where. If the machine doesn't move its position from world line to world line, the observer would not see it disappear at all. In the second case, if the machine is moved, it would disappear from the viewpoint of the observer and return in a different location based on where it was moved and turned on from the destination world line. In that case, the rippling seems to dissolve the machine and it disappears. If that happens while you are watching it leave and you expect it to return, you know it was moved or had a serious malfunction. It is actually quite dangerous to get too close to a distortion unit as it enters or leaves a world line. It vents radiation and has a very strong localized gravity field. Personally, I worry about that a great deal.

22 November 2000 20:58 (about time travel) 87
Pamela:2.What is the dimension of the field around the car? How many feet out from the car would you say it goes?
Timetravel_0-It can be adjusted to some degree. The CG (center of gravity) is adjustable within about 4 feet and the unit is effective about 10 to 12 feet in either direction from there. The vertical distance is quite a bit shorter and is determined by sensors in the unit.

22 November 2000 20:58 (about time travel) 88
Pamela:3.approximately in inches how much of the ground is taken with you in one trip?
timetravel_0-Depending on weather or not you are going forward or backward, the footprint of the unit is different. I wouldn't quite say it "scoops" up the ground cleanly. It sort of vibrates it loose and takes it along for the ride. It looks like someone raked the ground an inch or so deep with a small hand hoe or shovel. The negative ergosphere "scoops" up the front and back areas of the field. The positive ergosphere leaves a longer area near the center of mass. Its about a cubic foot of dirt spread out over six square feet or so.

22 November 2000 20:58 (about time travel) 89
Pamela:4.If they put the device in a house and turned it on what do you think would happen?
Timetravel_0-It might not be as destructive as you think. Depending on how close any object is to the field, it might not do any damage at all except for the floor.

22 November 2000 20:58 (about time travel) 90
Pamela:5.what would happen to a bird or small animal that ran across the field right when it was producing the field to travel?
Timetravel_0-It would be quickly spread out over the lateral length of the gravity field. Imagine being squished and stretched at the same time. I would imagine anything left after that would be vaporized and generate static electricity.

22 November 2000 20:58 (about time travel) 91
Pamela:6.how hot would you say the temperature gets on the outside of the car while in operation?
Timetravel_0-Very! hot. Depending on the power setting, 100 to 120 degrees is average.

22 November 2000 20:58 (about time travel) 92
Pamela:7.is the car in drive mode when the device is activated or is it totally turned off?
Timetravel_0-The car is off and the brake on.

22 November 2000 20:58 (about time travel) 93
Pamela: 8.has the device been tested on ships and airplanes?
Timetravel_0-Not that I'm aware of. Its important that it remain as still as possible so the gravity sensors can get a good lock. The divergence confidence would be way off if the vehicle was moving.

22 November 2000 20:58 (about time travel) 94
Pamela:9.do you wear special uniforms when you time travel? what do they look like and does your group have a timetravel emblem or group name?
Timetravel_0-I wear a standard civilian service uniform during instruction and training. Its sort of a cross between an army uniform and overalls. We do have a quarter master who distributes clothing appropriate to where ever we are going. There is a patch. It is round and has a graphic of a Kerr singularity (sort of looks like an eye with gravity waves around it) with two spiral paths running through it's center. One path represents the "safe" way and the other is the path to God. The bottom of the patch has my unit number along with "Temporal Recon" printed on it. However, we remove any identification and patches before we go anywhere.

25 November 2000 09:10 (about time travel) 95
(What type of senser is number seven?)
That sensor detects various parameters from the singularity.

25 November 2000 09:10 (about time travel) 96
(Why are the four atomic clocks not shown?)
There is another page that depicts the computer and clock systems. That technology is not new and not very interesting.

25 November 2000 13:57 (about the future) 97
I do believe UFOs are a real mystery but I also know that chaos theory dictates that no matter what technology or knowledge we have, there are always unknowns.

25 November 2000 13:59 (about the future) 98
On my world line, it is known that the 5100 series is capable of reading all the IBM code written before the widespread use of APL and Basic. Unfortunately, there are none left that anyone can find on my world line.

25 November 2000 14:03 (about the future) 99
My world line is not unified under a single government but I would say it is closer to a unified purpose. Isn?t that what you want anyway?

25 November 2000 14:03 (past predictions) 100
I have tried to tell people about CJD disease and it seems to be ?catching on? in Europe.

25 November 2000 14:03 (about the future) 101
Technologies themselves are not lost but some of the older tools and techniques have been lost. I think there is more detailed information about the war posted earlier.

25 November 2000 14:03 (about time travel) 102
The energy stored in the singularity is used to create the distortion fields. That energy is created in a particle accelerator. I?m not sure what you mean by ?temporal turbulence?. What effect would that have that would need to be overcome?

25 November 2000 14:03 (about time travel) 103
When I leave, I will return to 2036. The computer I have is expected there. I am unaware of any ?true? interdimensional device available on this world line now. I would image the effects of such a device would be hard to hide.

26 November 2000 16:32 (safety, suggestions, assorted philosophy) 104

Do not eat or use products from any animal that is fed and eats parts of its own dead.
Do not kiss or have intimate relations with anyone you do not know.
Learn basic sanitation and water purification.
Be comfortable around firearms. Learn to shoot and clean a gun.
Get a good first aid kit and learn to use it.
Find 5 people within 100 miles that you trust with your life and stay in contact with them.
Get a copy of the US Constitution and read it.
Eat less.
Get a bicycle and two sets of spare tires. Ride it 10 miles a week.
Consider what you would bring with you if you had to leave your home in 10 min. and never return.


26 November 2000 16:32 (about the future) 105
(Can you tell us exactly what event started the war? Is there any way we can stop it?) The war is a result of faulty politics and desparation from Western leadership during the US civil war. Yes, I suppose you could stop it.

26 November 2000 16:32 (predictions for the future) 106
(Are some states or countries safer than others?)
Take a close look at the county by county voting map from the last elections.

26 November 2000 16:32 (predictions for the future) 107
(Did they use biological and chemical weopons in the war besides nukes? Did they use mind control weopons?)
Yes there were bio and chem weapons used. No mind control weapons but there are new "non-leathal" weapon systems that turn out to be quite leathal.

26 November 2000 16:32 (about the future) 108
( Have you discovered the cure for cancer or aids yet?)
Aids...no. Cancer...some progress.

06 December 2000 21:36 (about the future) 109
(What is the popular music like?)
Most of the same music you enjoy is available on archive. However the days of mega-stars playing multiple track studio produced music and lip synching on a huge stage are pretty much isolated to your time period. Like everything else, music is much less centralized. The general trend is away from ?computer generated? music and more toward real people playing real instruments. Music is much more of a personal experience. More people know how to read music and play together in small groups.

06 December 2000 21:36 (about the future) 110
(Are there any social prejudices)
Yes there are. However, as odd as it may sound, it serves a useful purpose in my time. First, you must realize that your experiences with ?prejudice? and mine are different. I would characterize the intolerance you have here as a result of ignorance and fear. I have observed that people with unfounded and irrational fears about their fellow man in this time have the luxury of not having their beliefs tested.

06 December 2000 21:36 (right now) 111
I would characterize the intolerance you have here as a result of ignorance and fear. I have observed that people with unfounded and irrational fears about their fellow man in this time have the luxury of not having their beliefs tested.

06 December 2000 21:36 (about the future) 112
On my world line, if a man doesn?t pull his weight in the community, then we feel prejudice towards him as a burden to us. This feeling of shame he experiences then makes him realize his responsibilities.

06 December 2000 21:36 (about the future) 113
(What is the health care system like)
You would probably not like it at all. I would compare it to what you see in Western movies. We do have hospitals but there are more family doctors and house calls as compared to what you are used to. There is no real organized health care. If you get a serious disease, you die. This however has had a tendency to strengthen the general genetic pool. Doctors are more concerned about things like broken legs, snake bites and delivering healthy babies.

06 December 2000 21:36 (about the future) 114
(What is the entertainment industry like, movies, tv, radio, internet?)
Again, entertainment is less centralized. There are ?movies? and ?tv? but everything is distributed over the net and more people produce their own ?shows?.

06 December 2000 21:36 (about the future) 115
(How difficult is it for someone to start from nothing and get a job and make a living for themselves?)
Very easy. If you can work with your hands and get along with other people, you will always find work.

[Spirit of Vengeance]

06 December 2000 21:36 (about time travel) 116
(If a group of people were to travel forward in time to avoid a situation, would they be still be able to live in relative peace? Or would they be looked down on for that? Should they just keep that a secret to make things easier?)
From a physical standpoint, I suppose that would work if you were trying to escape a natural disaster. But you must consider that trying to ?escape? by time traveling has it?s own problems. I?m not exactly sure what you mean by being looked down on.

06 December 2000 21:36 (about the future) 117
(I have been reading that around 2011 there is some new world order-type government in place...TT0,can u verify?)
On my world line in 2011, the United States is in the middle of a civil war that has dramatic effects on most of the other Western governments.

06 December 2000 21:36 (predictions for the future) 118
(Also,a while back(page 2 of the posts) you said something was wrong with UNIX in your time...what is wrong?)
Yes?and with your?s too. I have to believe there must be a UNIX expert out there someplace that can confirm that. I?m not exactly sure what the technical issue is but I believe some sort of UNIX system registry stops in 2038.

06 December 2000 21:36 (predictions for the future) 119
(Does the events happening in the Middle east concerning the Arabs and Jews have anything to do with the coming war? )
Yes.

06 December 2000 21:36 (right now) 120
(I mean to say that since the jewish population seems to have quite considerable power now in 2000?)
I?m not sure what power you are referring to.

06 December 2000 21:36 (about time travel) 121
(What do you cool the singularity with?)
Very highly technical, cooling stuff. [sorry, I don?t get much of a chance to be a wise guy ]

06 December 2000 21:36 (about the future) 122
(How much more advanced are the computer hardware and software systems in the future? )
Good question! I would say the biggest difference is in the reliability of the hardware and software. It absolutely amazes me how willing people are here to accept computer and software failures on such a regular basis. I was very surprised to see how prolific it is. You can look forward to very stringent manufacturing parameters and programming discipline. Think back to the early days of the computer and how much work and cleverness it took to fit those programs into such small areas of memory. Has more and cheaper memory brought better programs or just more programs?

06 December 2000 21:36 (about the future) 123
As far as technical specifics, I?m afraid I can not go into too much detail. However, I will tell you that processor speed and memory size take dramatic leaps forward.

06 December 2000 21:36 (about time travel) 124
(if one found a method to pryapart a magnetic field would this result in a containable release of energy. Would the energy channeled through the tear be in the form of a tachyon field with the forward edge of the tachyon field at a velocity of light. Would the internal tachyons within the tachyon field have a velocity greater then light even though existing in the present subluminal time frame? inquisitively.)
Hmmm? I afraid my notebook on Maxwell?s equations isn?t with me and I must say again that I am not a physist. As far as tachyons goes, it?s my understanding that they can not exist at all unless they are created and ?traveling? faster than light. As far as time travel goes, I?m afraid tachyons are mearly useful for describing various quirky effects of strange matter.

10 December 2000 11:00 (about time travel) 125
1. If your machine is capable of traveling back through time from future earth to now, I wonder how your vehicle landed on this earth at all? You obviously know that this earth and your earth do not occupy the same quadrant of space?. You would also need a life support system to sustain you until you were within earth?s atmosphere? and lastly the avoidance of man made structures?)
This is actually a very good question that parts and pieces of the answer are scattered around in previous postings. I am often surprised that it is not the first one asked. You are correct, this problem is actually the most difficult part of time travel. Although some of your assumptions about matter displacement are a bit off, the problem is real. Inside the displacement unit are a series of very sensitive clocks and gravity sensors. This system is called the VGL (variable gravity lock). In simple terms, before the unit ?leaves? a world line, it takes a base reading of the local gravity and adjusts the Tipler sinusoid to ?lock? into that position. Although the tmporal physics of this statment are wrong, in effect, it holds you to the ?Earth?. During travel, it periodically checks to see that the field has not varied. If it does, it stops and reverses course or drops out at that point. Buildings and other terrain features are avoided in the same way. Yes, we do bring oxygen in the vehicle with us but we do not lose atmospheric pressure.

0 December 2000 11:00 (about time travel) 126
(Einstein?s Theory of Relativity would dictate that even if you left in such a machine for two minutes, this time would continue to advance and this world would still move through space and rotate.)
Yes that is correct.

10 December 2000 11:00 (about time travel) 127
(Therefore a time machine would NOT appear to stand still but rather would (depending upon the time interval) appear to suddenly defy gravity as it disappeared and then, free of the gravitational momentum, would reappear in near or far space.)
Please see VGL system above. Also, please be aware that from the viewpoint of the time traveler, the displacement unit actually left and then returned. The viewer does not experience this. Think of it as a Gosub statement in a computer program.

10 December 2000 11:32 (about the future) 128
1. what type of money system do you have on your world line? meaning how do you buy and sell things? Do you have the same type of money or do we have a cashless society? such as smart cards, credit cards or ID biochips.
Its not very different than it is now. Yes, we have money and credit cards. However, like everything else, the monetary system is decentralized. Banking is based mostly around the community structure. There are no multinational banking or computerized economic systems. There are also no income taxes.

10 December 2000 11:32 (about the future) 129
2. do you still use radio transponders to ID your cattle and other farm animals?
Some of the larger farm communities use electronic markers and fences. I am not a farmer so I don't have very many details about that.

10 December 2000 11:32 (about the future) 130
3.Is the Global Positioning Satellite system still in place around the Earth?
Oh yes! In fact, the unit I have with me works here. I'm not sure why that surprises me. There are also a great many communications and internet satellite systems.

10 December 2000 11:32 (about the future) 131
4.Do you still have the American Flag as your flag? does it look different or is there a new flag?
Yes, we still have the flag. There is a debate about changing it from 50 stars to 5.

10 December 2000 11:32 (about the future) 132
5.Is there some states or areas that have new names ? is there a NewDenver, Kansas by any chance?
Not that I can think of... No major cities anyway. I am aware that some smaller towns changed their names after the war and most universities have the word "fort" before them on my world line.

10 December 2000 11:32 (about time travel) 133
6. How many weeks of training is required before you timetravel? to what extent does the training involve? Are you able to make basic emergency repairs to the unit?
I started training on the recommendation of my PS officer when I got out of school in 34. I graduated in March of 35. Actual hands on training started soon after that and I left 2036 in April.

10 December 2000 11:32 (about time travel) 134
No, there are not very many repairs I can make to the unit. The unit is built very well but the tolerances are very small. I could probably repair the electrical systems and it will accept inputs from older computers.

10 December 2000 11:32 (about time travel) 135
7.Are you able to fish or are the waters polluted from fallout from the war?
Yes, we can fish. There are some areas that are still too dangerous to spend a lot of time in so we can't fish in those areas.

10 December 2000 11:32 (about time travel) 136
8.Are you aware of any time travelers from our time or other world lines that have entered your world line? Have you spoke to any of them?
No I am not aware. But I accept the possibility.

10 December 2000 11:32 (about time travel) 137
9.What type of public transportation is used to get around in your cities?

A high speed train system connects the larger cities. Roads are still used for cars and many people ride horses and bikes.

10 December 2000 11:32 (about the future) 138
10. What things do you think you will take back with you from this time?

Books! I'm also taking copies of family photos that were lost during the war.

10 December 2000 11:32 (about the future) 139
16.does the cure for cancer have any thing to do with genetics?

Again...I'm no expert. I believe there is a great deal of progress in treating the cancer cells with modified viruses. So I guess the answer is yes.

10 December 2000 11:32 (about the future) 140
17.Do you have an increase in tornados and earthquakes than what we have now? is the average temperature in Florida in your time about the same as it is here? or is it different?
That's one area I've decided not to talk about...sorry. The average temperature worldwide is a bit cooler.

10 December 2000 11:32 (about time travel) 141
18. are any of the other 7 time travelers with you in this world line or are you by yourself?
No. They are off doing something else I'm sure.

10 December 2000 11:32 (about time travel) 142
19. are there time travel web sites in the future? does this one still exist?
Time travel is a major point of social discussion. I'll have to check when I get back. Most of the larger servers that were in the major cities were lost or destroyed. I'll try to bring a copy back with me. Perhaps you can check that in your 2036.

13 December 2000 12:4 (right now) 143
I get my email remotely through about three different systems and I use one of your hand-held computer units to write with.

13 December 2000 12:4 (right now) 144
One of the reasons I have been communicating this way is so that others that do not post who I have directed here can see some of the information I have shared with you.

13 December 2000 12:44 (about time travel) 145
(You speak of 1 & 2 % "divergence" as being unimportant. I don't get it. Like for example if OUR IBM5100 is 1% different than the code you have to run on it, it ain't gonna work right. One percent in the FL vote count would be important. If I could see only 99% of the cars on the road it would be important to me. So, what exactly is X% divergent, and why is it not a major problem?) The divergence measurement refers to the local gravitational field as compared to the point of origin. It is mearly an empirical indicator of overall change in a world line. Some things that are quite different on one world line have very little effect as time passes and the world lines appear to ?converge? again and look very similar. World line changes are not exponential, they act more like chaotic attractors with varying effect depending on their size and location.

13 December 2000 12:44 () 146
Some things that are quite different on one world line have very little effect as time passes and the world lines appear to ?converge? again and look very similar. World line changes are not exponential, they act more like chaotic attractors with varying effect depending on their size and location.

13 December 2000 12:4 (right now) 147
In fact the main reason why I think you might be genuine is that I have trouble thinking LIKE you do. I would expect this of an encounter with a "Chrono-alien".) You are correct in your thinking. This world line is not mine but it looks very similar. It may be compared to reading two books that are the same.

13 December 2000 12:44 (about time travel) 148
In consideration of Everret-Wheeler, the reason we don?t know if Schrodinger?s cat is dead is because it might have had a time machine.

13 December 2000 12:44 (about the future) 149
(Russia has "ALWAYS" been considered the first Country, to be suspect of a probable Nuclear Attack against the USA, and I, for one have NEVER relinquished the thought that inevitably, this will happen while I remain alive to witness this unfortunate tragedy come to fruition.)
You are also correct but I want to add a twist to your thinking. Russia?s enemy in the United States is not you, the average person. Russia?s enemy is the United States government.

13 December 2000 12:44 (about time travel) 150
(The fact that better equipment is supposed to get the reverse-time traveler closer to their actual past indicates that there is an ACTUAL SPECIFIC past that he is aiming for. So if in practical application the traveler ends up 2% divergent upon arrival in the past and if he stays in that line he finds that it is not a line at all, but that going forward, divergence approaches infinity.)
Yes, this is true. If I go forward on this world line, the future will not be my future. I get home by going back to 1975 before I arrived and then going forward to 2036.

13 December 2000 12:44 (predictions for the future) 151
(Also if this theory is correct we may be 2% divergent from TT_0 but going forward in this time line he is 98% divergent from us. My logic is pretty good here, how's my facts?)
Your deductions are quite accurate. (I?m not stating yet that I did? but) what if I told you I did go forward to ?your? 2036 and it looks nothing like mine. It is quite possible.

13 December 2000 12:4 (right now) 152
(BTW Someone just gave me a working IBM 5160. Should I save it or toss it?)
Toss it. The 5100 is the interesting machine.

13 December 2000 12:44 (about the future) 153
(Does the events happening in the Middle east concerning the Arabs and Jews have anything to do with the coming war? I mean to say that since the Jewish population seems to have quite considerable power now in 2000, would they mount a force against other countries or am I under the belief that the war will result from the U.S government election?(among other things).)
Real disruptions in world events begin with the destabilization of the West as a result of degrading US foreign policy and consistency. This becomes apparent around 2004 as civil unrest develops near the next presidential election. The Jewish population in Israel is not prepared for a true offensive war. They are prepared for the ultimate defense. Wavering western support for Israel is what gives Israel?s neighbors the confidence to attack. The last resort for a defensive Israel and it?s offensive Arab neighbors is to use weapons of mass destruction. In the grand scheme of things, the war in the middle-east is a part of what?s to come, not the cause.

13 December 2000 12:44 (predictions for the future) 154
This becomes apparent around 2004 as civil unrest develops near the next presidential election.

13 December 2000 12:44 (predictions for the future) 155
The Jewish population in Israel is not prepared for a true offensive war. They are prepared for the ultimate defense.

13 December 2000 12:44 (predictions for the future) 156
Wavering western support for Israel is what gives Israel?s neighbors the confidence to attack. The last resort for a defensive Israel and it?s offensive Arab neighbors is to use weapons of mass destruction. In the grand scheme of things, the war in the middle-east is a part of what?s to come, not the cause.

13 December 2000 12:44 (about time travel) 157
(What can you tell us about "Space Time Transposing" ?)
Perhaps you could describe what you mean? It appears to be space travel or the effect of similar atomic particles that seem to be related over great distances. Again, please forgive my ignorance, I am not a trained physist.

[Spirit of Vengeance]

13 December 2000 12:44 (about the future) 158
In my 2012, I was 14 years old spending most of my time living, running and hiding in the woods and rivers of central Florida. The civil war was in its 7th year and the world war was three years away. Yes, there are unusual events in 2012 but they do not cause the world to end. Unfortunately, I have decided not to discuss events that you or I can do anything about. It is important that they be a surprise. Perhaps you are familiar with the story of the Red Sea and the Egyptians?

13 December 2000 12:44 (about the future) 159
Yes, there are unusual events in 2012 but they do not cause the world to end. Unfortunately, I have decided not to discuss events that you or I can do anything about.

13 December 2000 12:44 (about the future) 160
(It?s no big secret among those who are "In the Know" of our current world line?s attempts to control the weather i.e. HAARP & Chemtrails, so What can you tell us about the future of weather control such as the following... bronze flying globes that float in the air over the earth, and are aligned in grid formations, and lasers joining them together in the air, churning out snow storms, rain, or whatever else they decide to induce, to be created in the given space provided???)
I must admit I am unfamiliar with most of what you have asked here. I am aware of the Harp system but I don?t know how they would control weather with it.

13 December 2000 12:44 () 161
(What is the education system like? For children? For adults? Is there more home schooling then there is now. What are the class sizes like? Is there any emphasis on a subject or subjects that are don't exist now?)
The education system has been through many changes. School in 2036 is no longer a political indoctrination system and students ?learn how to learn?. Since community activity varies from place to place, the emphasis on basic reading, math and language is augmented with skills particular to the community. One school may emphasis farming while another teaches woodworking. Having children is a bit different and less common in 2036. A typical school day involves a setting very much like it was 100 years ago with smaller classes and few administrators to teachers. Other areas of study that are less common now are history, citizenship and personal economics.

13 December 2000 12:44 (predictions for the future) 162
(How and why do the Arabs Jews become entangled in the civil war of the U.S.A?)
They are not directly involved but political situations are dependant on Western stability, which collapses in 2005.

13 December 2000 12:44 (predictions for the future) 163
(Also about the Arab side of affairs, they seem to be holding Biological weapons and thermonuclear weaponry. Do they end up launching these weapons against America or any other power? )
Not against America but they are used against each other.

13 December 2000 23:52 (about the future) 164
I'd probably be more free to do more research. and make new and exciting discoveries. Id spend more time doing things that mattered for eternity and not just to pay bills and taxes.

13 December 2000 23:52 (safety, suggestions, assorted philosophy) 165
(10. Do you know what Cholera is and how to avoid getting it?)
Cholera is an acute bacterial infection of the small intestine. The disease is caused by water and food that have been contaminated by feces of persons previously infected. The symptoms are caused by toxic substances produced by the infecting organism which mostly causes watery diarrhea and depletes the body of fluids and minerals. How to avoid getting it? There is currently a cholera vaccine available for people traveling to areas where the infection is endemic. Other preventive measures you could take would include drinking only boiled or bottled water and eating only cooked foods. Treatment includes administration of antibiotics to destroy the infecting bacteria and to restore the fluids and electrolytes with intravenous solutions.

21 December 2000 10:59 (about time travel) 166
In a Universe made up of infinite worldliness (superuniverse), everything is possible and has a 100% probability, therefore?no paradoxes.

30 December 2000 10:28 (about the future) 167
like the lyrics. They remind me of some other songs that are oldies but goodies from where I come from?anyone know these? ?gotta be home, by sunset. She asked me to giver her a ride, said she had to go, dropped her off by the trism through the atmosphere?by prism. Gotta keep movin , it was the human race to get away, sun bends light through a prism, she bent herself through the trism? ?she pulls the lever and then bright light. -- or this -- Waiting for bus number 99, goin? to the store for hotdogs and wine when all of the sudden I felt real cold and wound up in the belly of a UFO... ?Movin through the spheres at faster than light on our way to some planets that were out of sight? [well it had been 987 years in outer space when I got back, I couldn?t seem to find any of my friends to tell my interesting stories to.]

30 December 2000 10:28 (about time travel) 168
I?m pretty sure they have a number of experiments going on at the same time at CERN. The one I?m referring to involves very high energies using protons. From my historical perspective on my worldline, I do recall the issue was a point of contention about 18 months ago or so. There were some scientists who thought the experiments were too dangerous to try. The time travel I refer to does not require faster than light travel and due to multiple world ?reality?, paradoxes do not occur. Natural time machines do exist.

30 December 2000 11:47 (about time travel) 169
(If parallel universes do exist, did they all start simultaneously? I mean, let's assume that the universe originated from a singularity. Were there any parallel universes at that point? That would not be very logical and it would also imply that there is a parallel universe in which our universe never existed.)

30 December 2000 11:47 (about time travel) 170
It is thought that the event called the ?Big Bang? was the start of not only this worldline or universe but all worldlines and all universes that make up the superuniverse. It is also thought that the superuniverse can be imagined as an expanding sphere with the big bang in the center. Individual worldliness (or timelines as you call them) can be imagined as lines originating at the center and ?trending? toward spiraling around the sphere until they reach the edge. The individual worldlines expand in length and widen as you follow them from the center. Each individual ?moment? or ?event? on a world line has infinite possibilities or outcomes. Imagine this as a single point with infinite lines shooting away from it, which in turn are made up of points with their own possibilities and outcomes. Now, remember, these individual worldliness with all these points and possibilities are defined by their ability to hold there inhabitants to timelike trips only (no faster than light travel).

30 December 2000 11:47 (about time travel) 171
Now consider the reality of a spinning or electrified black hole (Kerr). Penrose diagrams of these oddities show mathematically that you can make simulated spacelike trips (faster than light) through the singularity without being destroyed. In order to do this without wiping out most modern physical laws, you must travel to an alternate worldline or universe. Therefore, if multiple worldlines exist, infinite worldlines exist.

30 December 2000 11:47 (about time travel) 172
(?If I go forward on this world line, the future will not be my future. I get home by going back to 1975 before I arrived and then going forward to 2036.") A few people have asked me about this statement so I will try to clarify it. On my worldline (A) in 2036, I was given a mission in 1975. I turn my machine on and jump to another worldline (B) in 1975 with about a 2% divergence from (A). From the very point I turn my machine off on (B), I create a new worldline just because I?m there. This line can be described as (C) and started when I got to (B). I am now doing my mission on line (C) in 1975 when I discover a very a good reason to go forward on (C) and see what happened. I turn my machine on and go forward on (C) to the year 2000. When I turn it off, I start another line called (D). So from my perspective, here we are on line (D) in the year 2000. In order to go home to line (A) I must turn my machine on and go back on (D) until I reach (C) which in turn would take me back to (B) which in turn takes me to a point before I arrived on (B) then I go forward from the point I arrived on (B) back to (A).

30 December 2000 11:47 (about time travel) 173 v If all this isn?t enough to get your head spinning?here are some issues we?re dealing with in 2036.
Did your worldline (D) exist at all before I got here from (C)? (personally I don?t see how it couldn?t)
What happens at the end of a worldine at the edge of the superuniverse?
If there are infinite worldlines and infinite possibilities and an edge to the superuniverse, doesn?t that mean occurring events on worldliness are staggered as they reach the edge? (time could end at any moment without warning).


30 December 2000 11:47 (about time travel) 174
In trying to imagine a superuniverse with infinite possibilities and worldlines, I think of a room with mirrors on all the walls. You are aware of your captivity but as you look in the distance, you see an infinite number of ?yours? in an infinite number of mirrored rooms. The gravity distortion machine allows you to ?step? out of your room and into another next to you. The closer you are to your original room, the closer it looks like yours, the farther away, the stranger it looks to you.

30 December 2000 13:17 (past predictions) 175
I have never claimed to be a physicist or an expert on what the CERN laboratory is doing at any given moment so I feel it is pointless to argue about what they may be doing in the future or what "breakthroughs" they will or might have. My comments about the CERN lab are in reference to particle accelerators in general and other questions that have come up in the past. The major physics break through for controlled gravity distortion does happen at CERN in your future. Heck, we haven't even touched on "Z" field compression yet. I suppose I could say that I was the one that traveled in time and convinced them to change their experiments but even I would have a hard time believing that one and I do not wish to insult your intelligence.

30 December 2000 13:37 (right now) 176
As far as evidence goes?I have however decided to try an experiment with you that may be more convincing. It involves the travel of information at faster than light. In fact, I have dropped at least three little gems like this that no one else has picked up on.

30 December 2000 13:37 (about the future) 177
I will explain further. In 2036, it was discovered (or at least known after testing) that the 5100 computer was capable of reading and changing all of the legacy code written by IBM before the release of that system and still be able to create new code in APL and basic. That is the reason we need it in 2036.

30 December 2000 23:26 (about the future) 178
This is the world in 2015 By James Langton in New York Global Trends 2015 - Central Intelligence Agency [CIA]

31 December 2000 11:00 (past predictions) 179
Well...you're getting closer people. Here's another one I found today. Again, I apologize for taking up this much space but I thought you'de want to see this. www.observer.co.uk... Science 2001

06 January 2001 13:10 (about the future) 180
((I realize that you said you are not a physicist, but I was curious if you are from the future: What is the current status of string theory?))
Who doesn?t love string theory? Please forgive the next few comments, I?m trying to be cryptic and jump starting my memory at the same time. In 2036, string theory still dominates physics due to its continued ?effect? of encompassing other physical properties from unrelated fields.

06 January 2001 13:10 (about time travel) 181
A great deal of the theoretical mathematics behind time travel was discovered by testing various ideas in string theory and eliminating the anomalies. As I recall, it was this original work that led to the final proof that six dimensions do indeed curl up to give us our observable universe. This in turn supported more of the theoretical math behind time travel?etc. It?s ironic that the beauty of string theory gives future engineers the confidence to create the distortion unit even though the final proof is still unknown. You?re a physics student, have you ever heard the Princeton String Quartet play?

15 January 2001 13:36 (about time travel) 182
Thank you for considering the problem of returning home. You seem to have stumbled on an intuitive proof of some of the physics of time travel. You are correct, getting back to the worldline of origin is easier than picking an exact destination on a different worldline.

15 January 2001 13:36 (about time travel) 183
((The artificial singularity you travel with, you say it forms a local gravity field. Does it physically reduce the size of nearby objects during operation? And if so by how much? ))
Actually, there are 2 singularities in the unit. The gravity field is manipulated by three factors that affect it in distinct ways. Adding electric charge to the singularities increases the diameter of the inner event horizons. Adding mass to the singularities increases the area of gravitational influence around the singularities. Rotating and positioning the polar axis of the singularities affects and alters the gravity sinusoid. The effects of the gravity produced by the unit do not have enough time to significantly alter physical objects within a reasonable distance from the outside of the sinusoid. No, things do not get smaller.

15 January 2001 13:36 (about time travel) 184
((If the electron injection system alters the shape of the field, would that not force the unit to accelerate through space as well as time?))
There is no relative movement in space due to three main factors. Large, kinetic energy inducing effects of the gravity field are compensated for by the interaction of the singularities. The mass of the unit and any objects inside the sinusoid do not exhibit any huge increases on the departure worldline during travel. The observed path of the traveler is obtained by changing the gravity, not by moving the vehicle. The black hole comes to you.

15 January 2001 13:36 (about time travel) 185
((The question is define "time"))
To me, time has two definitions. I see time as a mathematical component of a 10 dimensional super universe. It is a variable I use to define my location and existence. I also see time as a metaphysical compromise our senses use to define the area of collective existence God has placed us in. When I can measure and sense time, I know I am not with God.

03 January 2001 13:47 (about the future) 186
Some of you have been reading for a while now about the war in 2015 and the breakthroughs in particle physics that would be coming soon. Doesn?t the CIA report on 2015 and news on the z-field compression at least support what I?ve been saying a little bit? I just saw another story today about the Russians moving Nuks into the Balkins to thwart any future expansion by NATO.

05 January 2001 13:46 (about the future) 187
In 2036, community life is a bit different. People are valued and judged based on their contribution and worth. Work is organized around the family and the value of that work is assessed inside of the community. Most communities range in size from 1000 to 4000 people. If a family wanted to move from one community to another or if a son or daughter wanted to move to another community, they must apply and be interviewed by the community leadership council. During this process, the family or individual is evaluated as to whether or not the work or skill they have is required or necessary to that individual community. Once accepted, the family or individual is expected to uphold their end of the work and support the community. If they don?t, the community stops supporting them and they are forced to change their attitude or move away from the community.

05 January 2001 13:46 () 188
The family work we did was picking, sorting and shipping oranges by sailboat up and down the coast of Florida. We were expected to produce a certain amount for the community and a certain amount for other communities as agreed to by our CLC. In exchange, we received power, water, a certain amount of food and other necessities that were produced inside our community

05 January 2001 13:46 (right now) 189
((Timetraveler_0 have you ever heard of the "Waveriders"?))
No, I can?t say that I have although I am in no position to say if it?s true or not.

05 January 2001 13:46 (about time travel) 190
((You said that there were 7 other time travellers that you knew of who were on various missions from 2036 on your timeline. I am curious have people in 2036 been visited by people from further in the future? One would think that once time travel was possible and widely known that visitors from other time frames would be more likely to be visible and willing to be upfront about their visitation to the period after time travel, A.T.T (after time travel)).
No, I am not aware of time travelers visiting my worldline in 2036. However, that does not mean it can?t or isn?t happening. Also, the possible number of worldlines a time traveler might arrive at would place the chances of them hitting any particular one at very long odds.

05 January 2001 13:46 (about time travel) 191
(Does anyone know how big an IBM 5100 is??)
I would say its about 20? long, 10? high and 30? long.

[Spirit of Vengeance]

05 January 2001 13:46 (about the future) 192
((in the 2036,do they still publish books? if so,do they still have those Cliff Notes books? the yellow ones,about things like physics and geometry and common time displacement theory and such? hint hint... ))
Yes, books are still published. If I had any cliff notes with me I would let you decide if they should be posted or not.

05 January 2001 13:46 (about time travel) 193
((is the government regulating the time machine you used to get here, or are you free to do as you choose?))
The displacement machine is not mine but I am free to make certain decisions based on the experiences and information I gather from each worldline. I am expected back but from their perspective, I will only have been gone for a split second.

09 January 2001 09:28 (about the future) 194
((?and who are those involved with breathing life into this supposed NWO, that many people in our current world-line are so afraid of?))
On my worldline, we are no longer afraid of the ?NWO?. Are you afraid of Nazis?

09 January 2001 09:28 (about the future) 195
The reason the job of President was split into an office of 5 has 4 main reasons. With 5, foreign policy is more consistent, power shifting between parties has less of an impact on the overall government, individual strengths between presidents add to the strength of the overall office, and one president is elected for each major area in the United States.

09 January 2001 09:28 (about the future) 196
The office of President is far more diluted and decentralized than it is here. The powers of the national government are more defined and reside more at the county and state level.

09 January 2001 09:28 (about the future) 197
I think the new government is good. However, since the concept of nationally subsidized welfare is gone, most people here may not appreciate it.

09 January 2001 09:28 (about the future) 198
The new US capitol is in Omaha Nebraska.

09 January 2001 09:28 (about the future) 199
The voting for individual candidates is on a rotating schedule.

09 January 2001 09:28 (about time travel) 200
I am not aware of the details of other missions. Of the seven, three had already left before I did. I suspect they are on similar missions.

09 January 2001 09:28 (about time travel) 201
((*Are any of them, besides yourself, on our current worldline that you are aware of?))
No, the chances of that are very slim.

09 January 2001 09:28 (about time travel) 202
((*Are you in contact by some special means with any other TT's? (if so, How is this done?))
No, although I would suspect that is not impossible I have no idea how you would do that.

09 January 2001 09:28 (about time travel) 203
((*How is it possible to send a message through Time?))
Unless the information physically travels with the person, not that I'm aware of.

09 January 2001 12:24 (about time travel) 204
When time travel was discovered, there were many people who were against its development. However, once the true nature of time was realized, the resistance faded. Even if one worldline was able to ban, kill and stop all time travel, it will continue on another.

10 January 2001 23:10 (about time travel) 205
((You mentioned a divergence from time lines. How is it possible to measure such a divergence?))
The measurement for worldline divergence is an observation variable isolated to the distortion unit. An effective analogy would be a ?gravity radar?. The unit?s sensors take a ?snapshot? of the local gravity around the unit before a flight. During travel, this baseline is periodically checked to make sure there are no major changes in the environment that would cause a catastrophic mass failure (brick wall appearing from nowhere). The percentage of VGL divergence from one worldline to another is a calculated guess by the three computers that control the unit based on its starting point. It is useless in describing characteristics of individual worldlines.

10 January 2001 23:10 (about time travel) 206
There is a bit of folklore about the first distortion driver who reaches a destination with a zero divergence. This would mean they had traveled on a spacelike trip to their own worldline of origin. This paradox is quite possible although highly unlikely. I wonder if anyone out there can take current string theory and make that one work on paper?

10 January 2001 23:10 (about time travel) 207
((You said 6 curled up dimensions. The current theory suggests that there should be at least 7 curled up dimensions.))
I may be mistaken but I thought it was pretty well established now that (N -10) was on track.

11 January 2001 09:04 (about the future) 208
However, if I understand you, you?re asking about death on my worldline. Yes, it is more a part of our lives than it is yours (at least for now) and capitol punishment is a reality.

11 January 2001 11:49 (about time travel) 209
I don't believe I ever said I came back looking for a UNIX bug fix. I came back for a computer system. Don't you find UNIX usefull now?

11 January 2001 11:49 (about the future) 210
Temprature is about the same although there were anomalies after the war.

15 January 2001 12:0 (right now) 211
In our attempt to communicate here, some of the comments on this board have become increasingly hostile and negative. I see the same type of interaction when I watch news interview programs. The guise of productive interaction and communication is thwarted by illogical verbal attacks and misdirection. I understand why the news does it. They are trying to hold an audience by generating conflict.

15 January 2001 12:04 (about time travel) 212
(What is a WORLDLINE?)
Individual worldlines represent the limits and paths physical objects take through space-time under the laws of special relativity. They can be shown graphically on an x-y graph with x representing distance in space and y representing passing of time. In time travel talk, worldlines are used as a way to describe and separate the experiences of a time traveler because various laws of special relativity appear to breakdown and can?t be defined on a single worldline. Worldline has also become synonymous with "alternate universe" and / or "time line".

15 January 2001 12:04 (about time travel) 213
((?could not a TT (time traveler)basically take whatever they wanted from any time?))
There are mass limits to what can be taken back.

15 January 2001 12:04 (about time travel) 214
((? do you have to take psychological tests before you are chosen? what attributes should a time traveler have in your opinion?))
Yes, there are numerous psychological tests. I was chosen based on my educational background and military service. The training lasted about two years. There is a great deal of physical training to counter the physical effects of distortion. They were also looking for drivers who had a fair amount of self-sufficiency and an ability to function under extreme isolation and confinement.

15 January 2001 12:04 (about time travel) 215
((What are some things they look for when they chose someone for a mission?))
Depending on the mission, time travelers are usually chosen for a particular mission based on their ability to gain the cooperation of someone related to the goal on the target worldline. In my case, my grandfather was directly involved with the building and programming of the 5100.

15 January 2001 12:04 (about time travel) 216
((If they pick a bad seed by mistake and send them time traveling and that person does harm is there anyway they can go after that person? I am curious about all of this.))
Interesting question. There is a difference of philosophy between us that should be clarified. Since I believe that all possible outcomes and events are possible, probable and certain, it is impossible to assign ?goodness? or ?badness? to a person or situation. On some other worldline, I am an insane time traveler causing destruction and death while TTA chases me with his band of devoted followers. However, on this one, I am not. Since both events are certain, their value is neutral.

15 January 2001 12:04 (safety, suggestions, assorted philosophy) 217 Since both events are certain, their value is neutral. Therefore, you can only assign goodness and badness to the events and experiences you have direct control over or witness. Only actions are good and bad, not people or things.

15 January 2001 12:04 (about the future) 218
((?didnt TT_0 say in a previous post that we were looked down on by future generations, if he is from a "parellel timeline",how would he know this??))
This worldline and my own are almost exactly alike.

17 January 2001 11:29 (about the future) 219
In the future, sociologists spend a great of time discussing the collective mentality before the war that led to the demise of "Homo Materia". Many of them point to an experiment that was done in the 1970's or 1980's. The experiment isolated various sizes of rat populations in varying cage sizes with varying food and cleaning schedules. It was discovered that no matter what, there was a certain ratio of rats to space that once overtaken by population would always lead to aggressive and destructive behavior in the rats until enough of them had died or been killed to get back under the ratio. This was true even when the rats that were given plenty of food and had their cage cleaned every day.

17 January 2001 11:29 (safety, suggestions, assorted philosophy) 220 I believe your society is biologically geared for self-destruction.

26 January 2001 13:32 (about the future) 221
After the war, the United States had split into five separate regions based on the various factors and military objectives they each had. There was a great deal of anger directed toward the Federal government and a revival of states rights was becoming paramount. However, in their attempt to create an economic form of government, the political and military leaders at the time decided to hold one last Constitutional Congress in order to present a psychological cohesion from the old system. During this Congress, the leaders discovered and decided that coming up with a new and better form of government was nearly impossible. The original Constitution itself was not the problem it was the ignorance of the people that lived under it.

26 January 2001 13:32 (safety, suggestions, assorted philosophy) 222 The original Constitution itself was not the problem it was the ignorance of the people that lived under it.

26 January 2001 13:32 (about the future) 223
((Second, do you not like your "new" Constitution? Or feel that it is not as effective as the original?))
From my viewpoint, it?s very effective. I am a very strong believer in local or state?s rights.

26 January 2001 13:32 (about time travel) 224
((Is it physically possible for you to get back to THIS time line once you leave?))
Not with the unit I have.

26 January 2001 13:32 (about time travel) 225
((If all 7 Billion of us here each had our own time machine do you think that would we would end up trashing the rest of the local worldlines?))
Since everything is already happening and possible on different worldlines, the answer is yes?.and no.

26 January 2001 13:32 (safety, suggestions, assorted philosophy) 226
((Correct me if I'm wrong here but I see you as a Libertarian who expounds on the need for humanity to get back to certain basics. Like the issues defined by the Constitution and your comments earlier on firearms tend to make me believe you are a Gun Rights activist.))
I suppose from your vantage point that?s a fair assessment. I would call myself more of a centrist. Although I understand the ?gun rights? issue here, I cannot relate to it all and it is a common point of argument with my mother. I keep saying her tune will change in about ten years and she?ll be cleaning shotguns in her sleep but it doesn?t help. If it makes you feel any better, I never shot anyone who wasn?t trying to kill me.

26 January 2001 13:32 (about time travel) 227
((You said that you traveled back in time from 2036 to 1975 with a ~1-2% divergence. You also mentioned that in your time frame a 0% divergence is sort of a myth, i.e technologically improbable.))
Yes, a ?ZD? is thought to be impossible. However, consider that an exact entry point ?may? not be necessary to get home. The important factor is the path, not the destination. Under multiple world theory, there are an infinite number of ?homes? that I could return to that don?t have me there. The divergence for that window is somewhere near .002377%.

26 January 2001 13:32 (about time travel) 228
((Someone correct me where I'm wrong here but as I understand it, these Parallel Universes or Alternative Timelines are "created" by events in our own, (timelines) or even in others.))
Parallel universes exist independently of each other and only interact to avoid the collapse of the wave function for any given particle that you are looking at. I like to imagine it as a series of parallel lines crossed by a sine wave. Each point on the sine wave where a line crosses it represents an alternate outcome. The multiple ?yous? on each worldline record a different result for the activity of the event.

26 January 2001 13:32 (about time travel) 229
((Actually, in science, "Multiverse" theory is something that has NEVER been proven. For lack of evidence. It crops up from time to time as a way to explain certain SEEMING paradoxes like the EPR double slit experiment with polarized light. But then, just because it can be used to explain something doesn't mean it is so.))
I agree with you that an explanation doesn?t make it so. However you can build a model to describe physical behavior. Even if the model is not complete, its ?truth? can be measured by how well it predicts the behavior it describes.

26 January 2001 13:32 (about time travel) 230
I believe the closest non-related evidence for multiple universes right now comes from the physics (derived from special relativity) of rotating (Kerr) black holes. If you examine a typical Penrose map, science agrees that you can travel to ?other universes? through these cosmic oddities. They can?t be different places in our own universe because you would have to violate the speed of light limit to get there. Since the existence of multiple universes is a reality from my viewpoint, please allow me to disclose an idea we toss around a bit in 2036. Since all possibilities, outcomes and events are occurring and exist simultaneously, it would mean there are multiple universes out there where ?you? are living a day behind and a day ahead of the ?you? on this universe. There are some who believe that memory is some sort of information transfer or communication with the ?yous? in the past, across worldlines or universes. Although this is seemingly quite ridiculous, if you think that could be true, than physics tells us that the same information transfer from our future selves on other worldlines is not only possible but certain. Could it be that fantasy or ?what if? scenarios are actually future memory from an alternate ?us? on a future worldline? According to physics, there is no reason why this cannot be true although I probably fall a little closer to DiViper?s feelings about this as he does on multiple universes.

01/26/01 09:21 pm (about time travel) 231
((So, it would seem to me that your "mission" to go back in time to help your society in the future seems rather illogical, because in fact you can not help them without the ability to make, what you termed a "ZD", a zero divergence trip.))
The reality of infinite possibilities is rather difficult to get a grip on and if it were not for the math, I would delegate it to the realm of religion. I like to think of it as standing in a room with mirrors on all the walls. I can look to my right and left and see many ?mes? all doing exactly the same thing. If we all took a step to our right and passed through a dimensional doorway to the next mirrored room, it would be very difficult to tell if anything had changed. In that sense, there are an infinite number of worldlines waiting for me to return with the computer. If I can get to one of them, I have completed my mission.

01/26/01 09:21 pm (about time travel) 232
((Similarly, a TT_0 ("not ours") will return from a worldline similar to our own to "our TT_0's" worldline and be such a perfect doppleganger that the "originating" worldline recieves the IBM, and his Mom never knows the difference.))
Bingo!! Seems like something they would do a lot of psychological testing for before they sent us off.

[Spirit of Vengeance]

01/27/01 12:45 (about time travel) 232
My "time" machine is a stationary mass, temporal displacement unit manufactured by General Electric. The unit is powered by two, top-spin, dual-positive singularities that produce a standard, off-set Tipler sinusoid.

01/28/01 06:35 (about time travel) 233
My initial flight was from 2036 to 1975 (61 yrs). I then went from 1975 to 2000 (25 yrs.) Later this year, one of two favorable windows will open and I will return to my 2036 (35 yrs.) I am here now for personal reasons.

01/28/01 12:22 (about time travel) 234
The probability of us noticing a difference is based on the divergence of the trip. If all events and outcomes are certain, there are worldlines where I do return for every worldline I don?t return to. All the ?moral? events would then balance out to zero. Again, it's hard to judge good and bad outcomes?only good and bad decisions.

01/28/01 12:22 (about time travel) 235
((Besides what's the point of fixing the Unix problem if there's an infinite number of worldlines where this problem doesn't even exist or has been fixed. After all your own worldline doesn't get the IBM 5100 anyway, so the people that sent you on this mission are still having that problem.))
Our actions and decisions are based on the knowledge we have in our own worldline. Yes, the bell shaped curve is a useful tool but if we are capable of change for the better than we feel we should at least try. Even if 'I' don?t return to my exact worldline, a similar ?me? probably will. Besides, I just look at it as helping a worldline where their time traveling me didn?t show up but I did.

01/28/01 12:22 (about time travel) 236
((Also, you stated that "to the people on your worldline you'd only be gone for a split second". This can't be true, because to them you'll go away and never return.)) Again, I refer to the mirror example.


01/28/01 12:22 (about time travel) 237
I'm not sure I said another time traveler ?will? return, I think I said they ?could? return. The location/gravity ?map? I have of my path getting here could be duplicated with a fairly high degree of accuracy. it's just that my machine was not designed to do that.

01/29/01 12:25 (about the future) 238
((Are the Olympics still being played in your time?))
As a result of the many conflicts, no, there were no official Olympics after 2004. However, it appears they may be revived in in 2040.

01/29/01 12:25 (about time travel) 239
((would it not be possible to use that recording to back track to your original starting point without any divergence at all? It seems that all it would take it is a couple lines of programming in the computer-controlled system))
Perhaps it's better to say it's so highly improbable as to be considered impossible. A good example is the concept of trying to get closer to something by cutting the distance in half for every step you take. Since the computer is basically making calculations from an imperfect model of reality, there are no absolutes. I also believe there is a theory that states you would have to violate the speed of light limit to have a perfect ZD.

01/29/01 12:25 (about time travel) 240
The weather isn?t a factor as much as gravitational tidal forces are at the point of arrival.

01/29/01 12:25 (safety, suggestions, assorted philosophy) 241 The ability for war sleeps in each one of us and we must decide what we will do before the beast awakens. As for morality, again I point to the ?universal? balance of good and evil. For every worldline where there is peace, there is a worldline that has destroyed itself.

01/29/01 12:25 (about time travel) 242
((what's the use of bringing back an IBM 5100 to a slightly different worldline, knowing that there are just as many or even more worldlines in which no-one returns to bring back the IBM 5100. It sounds a bit like charity in favour of other worldlines.))
The decisions and actions we take as individuals can only help those who we have direct interaction with. I believe it is wrong to be capable of helping and do nothing. My struggle is in the irony that if everyone just ?did nothing?, on every worldline, there would be no action and thus no immorality or evil (no good either).

01/29/01 12:25 (about the future) 243
Keep in mind that not all humans were destroyed but we were all affected. There is a effort going into colonizing space because it is believed that the problems of overpopulation were a large cause of the war. Personally, my generation sees itself as having a duty to try and repair the mess our fathers handed to us. When we were young, most of us had a small taste of the world you live in now and our only dream is to clean it up and give it back to those still able to have children.

01/29/01 07:47 (about the future) 244
As a result of the many conflicts, no, there were no official Olympics after 2004. However, it appears they may be revived in in 2040.

01/29/01 07:47 (right now) 245
Please keep in mind the web site is not mine and I apologize for the poor quality of the files. The photo you saw was taken by me with a Polaroid camera manufactured here. The other documents were duplicated by placing a book onto a copy machine at a packaging and shipping store and then scanning and saving them.

01/29/01 15:48 (about the future) 246
Although the documents posted were printed from a computer printer, is it really that hard to believe that manual typing is just a bit more common in thirty years? After the war, many things like manual printing machines, bicycles, sailboats and hand tools were valued a great deal. I have noticed more people in California are installing wood burning stoves.

01/30/01 06:21 (about time travel) 247
The means by which I travel in time is very physical. I require a ?machine? to do it. It weighs about 500 pounds and gets quite hot. I do not own it and I did not build it. Within limits, I will be happy to discuss how it works and how ?future? science thinks time works. No we have not completed string theory yet but (N-10) seems to work pretty well.

01/30/01 06:21 (about the future) 248
As far as the future goes, your worldline is about 2.5% different than mine. This is a roughly cumulative measurement based on my arrival in 1975. As far as I can tell right now, you are headed toward the same events I would call ?my history? in 2036. However, the very nature of time travel states that every worldline is unique and you are very much in control of what you do and how you get there. Heck, the fact that I?m here makes it different from mine.

01/30/01 14:09 (about the future) 249
Technology is not gone in 2036 nor is it the private domain of ?government? leaders. Computer printers just didn?t work very well on 12 volts and many people just got used to doing things the old way. After the war, the main problem was distribution. Can anyone tell me how many companies in the United States still manufacture bicycle tires today? Anyone who still has a bike in 2008 will find out.

01/31/01 06:30 (about time travel) 250
(1) Industrialized mass production does not produce the uncountable tonnage of useless consumer items so gleefully absorbed by your society. I would estimate there are about 10 units like mine (C204) and twenty larger units (C206). The main difference is the sensitivity and number of the main Cesium clocks. I would estimate that some sort of public time travel will be common around 2045.

01/31/01 06:30 (about time travel) 251
(2) I?m not aware of any other time traveler?s ?here? now. But if they are here, I?m sure they?re pouring over sports history books so they can go back in time another week and start a friendly conversation on the web.

01/31/01 06:30 (past predictions) 252
(3) The ?Mad Cow? story here is yet to begin but don?t worry, the fruited jellitine deserts are safe.

01/31/01 06:30 (past predictions) 253
(4) I?m glad to see it?s so easy for to dismiss the Middle East . Yes, I suppose it is a no brainer but pretty soon it will be a ?no arrmer? and a ?no legger?

01/31/01 19:13 (about time travel) 254
The distortion unit reaches its target destination by using very sensitive gravity sensors and atomic clocks. The basic unit of calculation is the second. So yes, in a sense you do ?dial in? in a date and the computer system controls the distortion field. At maximum power, the unit I have is capable of traveling about 10 years an hour.

01/31/01 19:13 (about time travel) 255
Unfortunately, time travel is not an exact science. There is inherent error and chaos in the computers ability to make accurate calculations. Based on the current technology of the clocks and sensors, distortion units are only accurate to about 60 years or so. So no, in 2036, we are unable to travel back 1000 years due to the error rate in the system. The divergence between the worldline of origin and the target worldline would be too great. If one were to try and travel back that far, history would look nothing like what you would expect. The unit has mass limits but the 204 is capable of transporting about three people and equipment. I don?t think you would like 2036 very much.

02/01/01 08:36 (right now) 256
The 5100 had a very simple and unique feature that IBM did not account for and decided it was not in their best interest to advertise (which in hindsight was not very smart). This accidental feature was thus removed from any future desktop computers. In order to take advantage of this feature, the 5100 I have now required a couple of special ?tweaks? that had to be done by one of the software engineers in 1975. Anyone who is familiar with this feature and was told to keep their mouth shut about it will be able to tell you what it is.

02/01/01 08:36 (about the future) 257
Yes we still have toilet tissue and some people still suffer from extreme anal fixation.

02/01/01 08:36 (predictions for the future) 258
The year 2008 was a general date by which time everyone will realize the world they thought they were living in was over. The civil war in the United States will start in 2004. I would describe it as having a Waco type event every month that steadily gets worse. The conflict will consume everyone in the US by 2012 and end in 2015 with a very short WWIII.

02/01/01 08:36 (past predictions) 259
The source of power for the C204 that allows it to distort and manipulate gravity comes from two microsingularities that were created, captured and cleaned at a much larger and ?circular? facility. The dual event horizons of each one and their mass is manipulated by injecting electrons onto the surface of their respective ergospheres. The electricity comes from batteries. The breakthrough that will allow for this technology will occur within a year or so when CERN brings their larger facility online.

02/01/01 08:36 (about time travel) 260
Perhaps it would have been clearer to state that the math has been around since 1970. I would urge you to examine the properties of Kerr black holes and Tipler cylinders. An actual working prototype was first tested in 2034. On my worldline, time travel is not a public recreation but we are all aware that it exists. You may be disappointed to know that the ability to manipulate gravity is not the technical challenge that had to be overcome. Miniaturizing the clocks and sensors, creating clever ways to vent x-rays and creating a computer system dependable enough to calculate the changes required to the field were the main challenges. There are no missing pieces?just missing energy levels and a few very interesting subatomic particles

02/02/01 06:34 (about the future) 261
The United States is still a representative republic in 2036 but it was touch and go for a while. After the war, the U.S. had divided into 5 general areas based on their economic and defensive strengths. Many people blamed the government organization for the war and the last Constitutional Congress was held in 2020 to officially scrap the Constitution and start over. Fortunately, this exercise in anger pointed out how hard it was to come up with anything better. It was decided the document wasn?t at fault. As a result, there have been a few small changes to the Constitution and the executive branch but you would easily recognize it. The average citizen is more educated about the Constitution and aware of the rights and responsibilities it gives them. Federal power has been decentralized and the focus of daily politics is in the state senates. Federal law has also been streamlined but much harder to change or make additions to.

02/02/01 06:34 (about the future) 262
The people who sign my paycheck told me why we needed a 5100 and sent me off to get one. I was not in a position to make alternate suggestions. As I recall, isn?t the Cray a rather large system? We need something portable. The 5100 isn?t required for its reliability, its needed to translate between APL, UNIX and a few obscure IBM mainframe languages.

02/02/01 10:09 (about time travel) 263
Yes, I age and my hair and nails grow at normal rates. Please keep in mind that gravity distortion does involve some dilation effects but ?jumping? between worldlines are timelike trips, not spacelike trips.

02/02/01 10:09 (about the future) 264
The air is about the same although I do smell and taste industrial odors here my parents cannot. The food in the future is grown and raised naturally inside the community structure. This is done primarily for safety reasons. I am amazed at the risks people here are willing to take with processed food. All of the food I eat here is grown and prepared by myself or my family. Unfortunately, I do not know if we are acquainted on my worldline. Yes, love is a challenge. What?s harder is knowing you could go back and correct a mistake but at the cost of the ?you? on that worldline you want to live your life over again on.

02/02/01 10:09 (right now) 265
You are able to change your worldine for better or worse just as I am. Although this will make me a far less interesting time traveler, these are the rules I personally try to hold to:
I will not disclose any information that will cause someone to personally gain by its knowledge. This means no stock or sports tips.
I will not disclose any detailed information that would allow someone to avoid death by probability. This means no earthquake or bomb information.
I will not disclose any information that may compromise any future actions by individual people or threaten their family and well-being. I will not disclose names or events associated with individuals.


02/02/01 10:09 (about time travel) 266
Now for the physics: The grandfather paradox is impossible. In fact, all paradox is impossible. The Everett-Wheeler-Graham or multiple world theory is correct. All possible quantum states, events, possibilities and outcomes are real, eventual and occurring. The chances of everything happening someplace at sometime in the superverse is 100%. (For all you scientists out there, if Schrodinger?s cat had a time machine, he might not be in the box at all.)

02/02/01 10:09 (about time travel) 267
Therefore, there is a worldline where you are alive and another worldline where you have gone back in time to kill your relative and the you on the new worldline won?t be born but ?you? the killer is still running around there. Differences between worldlines are measured from the perspective of the time traveler in terms of divergence percentage. The higher the divergence, the more ?un-like? your destination worldline looks like compared to your worldline of origin.

02/02/01 10:09 (about time travel) 268
Therefore, any ?prediction? I might make has a slight chance of being incorrect anyway and you now have the ability to act on it based on what I?ve said.

02/02/01 10:09 (predictions for the future) 269
Can you stop the war before it gets here? Sure. Will you do it? Probably not.

02/02/01 10:09 (about the future) 270
As far as space travel goes... no, we are not on Mars yet but we?re trying very hard so we can avoid another ?Hell?s Kitchen? outcome from an overpopulated Earth

02/02/01 11:41 (about time travel) 271
On a philosophical level, the existence of multiple worlds implies a moral balance in the superverse. For every worldline you perform a good action, there is a worldline where you perform a bad action. There are no good and bad people, just good and bad decisions. We can only be responsible for what we do as individuals on the worldline we are on now. So take heart! Somewhere out there is a worldline where I?m spilling all the beans on Hockey, the stock market and Hollywood and you?re all off to Vegas and Wall Street making millions of dollars.

02/03/01 09:09 (about time travel) 272
"This is one example of a theory involving "time shells" progressing in size and intensity around a gravitational point from all matter. The more massive the object, the larger and more influential the time shells around it (like an onion). --- Like an isobaric map of potential time lines and "intentions"

02/05/01 11:28 (safety, suggestions, assorted philosophy) 273
As far as the war goes, my best advice is to find at least 5 people within 100 miles of you that you trust with your life.

02/05/01 11:28 (about the future) 274
No, I haven?t met any other time travelers here and although from my perspective that?s highly unlikely, it?s not impossible. No, I don?t have any additional information concerning crop circles, ETs or UFOs. I find those subjects rather interesting myself and it?s one of the reasons I was drawn to this web site.

02/05/01 11:28 (right now) 275
When the civil ?conflict? started and got worse, people generally decided to either stay in the cities and lose most of their civil rights under the guise of security or leave the cities for more isolated and rural areas. Our home was searched once and the neighbor across the street was arrested for some unknown reason. That convinced my father to leave the city.

[Spirit of Vengeance]

02/05/01 11:28 (about the future) 276
From the age of 8 to 12, we lived away from the cities and spent most of our time in a farm community with other families avoiding conflict with the federal police and national guard. By that time, it was pretty clear that we were not going back to what we had and the division between the ?cities? and the ?country? was well defined. My father made a living by putting together 12-volt electrical systems and sailing ?commodities? up and down the coast of Florida. I spent most of my time helping him.

02/05/01 11:28 (about the future) 277
Outright open fighting was common by then and I joined a shotgun infantry unit in 2011. I served with the ?Fighting Diamondbacks? for about 4 years. (Hearing in my right ear isn?t as good as I would like it). The civil war ended in 2015 when Russia attacked the U.S. cities (our enemy), China and Europe. As unusual and bad as my childhood might seem, I wouldn?t trade it for anything.

02/05/01 11:28 (about the future) 278
Africa is not a pleasant place to be in 2036 although I would characterize it as recovering.

02/05/01 11:28 (about the future) 279
The music you enjoy now is quite popular and available it?s just not produced in anywhere near the same amount. There is a revival of ?local? and classical music. Many people have learned to play their own. I personally enjoy Big Band, some Classical and interesting lyrical pieces from the 1970s and 1980s.

02/05/01 11:28 (safety, suggestions, assorted philosophy) 280
This is an excellent question that causes a great deal of controversy. Since every possible outcome, event and possibility is happening and will happen, then all good and all evil balances out in the superverse. After the reality of multiple worlds sank into our collective thought, the one basic change to all religious dogma is the concept that good and evil does not exist as an organized force in our lives nor can it be used as a useful way to judge what God may think of a situation. Good and evil are personal experiences that can only guide what we do as individuals and how we relate to others. This outlook also makes it impossible for me to judge any other person or event. We cannot see the entire universe as God sees it therefore we will never be Gods or be capable of judging anything outside of ourselves. My actions can only be judged as good and bad by me and my God.

02/05/01 11:28 (about the future) 281
Yes, we still have football and you will easily recognize it in 2036.

02/05/01 11:28 (about time travel) 282
Yes, I have superiors. However, from their perspective, I will only have been gone a split second. The only real risk I am taking is spending too long outside my main line and risking a probability error (dying, accident, etc.). Based on the physics of gravity displacement, I can?t leave when I ever I want anyway and I do have some leeway into how I conduct my mission.

02/05/01 11:28 (about time travel) 283
It is impossible for me to change any worldline that I am not on. Nothing I do here will affect my home. The ?60 year flux? is a limitation of my machine, not of physics. Jet planes can?t fly into space, my machine is not reliable past a 60 + year destination.

02/05/01 11:28 (right now) 284
The computer is from 1975, Rochester Mn.

02/05/01 11:28 (past predictions) 285
Yes, the Pearl Harbor example relates to Y2K. Have you considered that I might already have accidentally screwed up your worldline?

02/05/01 14:09 (about the future) 286
There are no crimes against time. However, if I were to go on some sort of a murder spree and I admitted it when I returned, then I would be held responsible for the crime of murder.

02/05/01 14:09 (about time travel) 287
I am no more able to affect your worldline than you are. Yes, I could make the changes you suggested but you must remember that there are an infinite number of worldlines out there where I didn?t and I don?t. In fact, there?s even a worldline out there where you?re the time traveler and I?m the one writing the question.

02/05/01 14:09 (safety, suggestions, assorted philosophy) 288
I think the war would be good for you and your society. I don?t want to stop it.

02/05/01 14:09 (about time travel) 289
Nothing I do here will affect any other worldline. ?My? original worldline will always be the same and yes I can make changes here that would make this worldline different from mine but so can you.

02/06/01 06:35 (about the future) 290
Yes, there are significant advances in computer science. It's interesting how easy it is to be fixated on the ?machine? itself without any curiosity about many of the support systems. This is not really big news but if / then is out and if /then /maybe is in.

02/06/01 06:35 (right now) 291
Yes I am with the ?me? on this worldline and he is three now. I find that fact to be rather hard for people to get along with so I don?t bring it up directly. This is the second time I have ?met myself?.

02/06/01 06:35 (about the future) 292
The ?machine? is owned by the military. I am part of a unit stationed in Tampa Florida.

02/06/01 06:35 (about time travel) 293
The real energy is in creating the machine, not operating it. It?s interesting you should bring up the divergence percentage. You may find it?entertainingly interesting to know that the divergence can be more accurate with more sensitive gravity sensors and clocks. The C206 uses 6 Cesium clocks and an active method of timing the changes in the atom.

02/06/01 08:33 (about the future) 294
We time travel to solve problems. A great deal of effort is going into repairing the environment and infrastructure.

02/06/01 08:33 (about the future) 295
5) Will it still be fairly lawful for me to own and use handguns when are beginning your time travel adventures?
I thought owning a handgun was legal in the United States? Yes, being familiar with firearms (along with the other responsibilities of the Constitution) becomes an important part of people?s lives in thirty years.

02/06/01 08:33 (about time travel) 296
(6) Is it possible for you to bump into yourself when you are time travelling? Saw a Jean Claude Van Dam movie about that once. I think it was called "Time Cop". Whatever you do, don't shake hands with yourself, if you do meet.
Yes that is possible and there are no limitations on interacting with them. I find it interesting that there is some sort of collective negativity with the idea of doing that. Could it be that we are not really that comfortable with ourselves and therefore we cannot imagine meeting, liking or helping another one of us on another worldline?

02/08/01 09:40 (right now) 297
Russia and China have always had a very strange relationship. Even the news I see now indicates that continued weapons deals to allies, border clashes and overpopulation will lead to hostilities.

02/08/01 09:40 (about the future) 298
The West will become very unstable which gives China the confidence to ?expand?. I?m assuming you are all aware that China has millions of male soldiers right now that they know will never be able to find wives.

02/08/01 09:40 (about the future) 299
The attack on Europe is in response to a unified European army that masses and moves East from Germany.

02/08/01 09:40 (about the future) 300
Also, please be aware that from my viewpoint, Russia attacked my enemy who was in the U.S. cities. Yes, the U.S. did counter attack.

02/08/01 09:40 (about the future) 301
Based on what I know about the 5100, it has a few very interesting and worthwhile properties that make it worthwhile for a time traveler to recover. Also, please keep in mind that civilization is recovering from a war. Yes, we do have the technology but many of the tools were lost.

02/08/01 09:40 (about the future) 302
As you are probably aware, UNIX will have a timeout error in 2038 and many of the mainframe systems that ran a large part of the infrastructure were based on very old IBM computer code. The 5100 has the ability to easily translate between the old IBM code, APL, BASIC and (with a few tweaks in 1975)

02/08/01 09:40 (about the future) 303
This may seem insignificant but the fact that the 5100 is portable means I can easily take it back to 2036. I do expect they will create some sort of emulation system to use in multiple locations.

02/08/01 09:40 (right now) 304
When I arrived, I approached my father and was easily able to prove to him who I was. I am currently with my parents and the ?me? who is three. They are very aware of what I am doing, why I am here and when I will be leaving. It may interest you to know that my father still does not truly believe the machine works even after touching and seeing it.

02/08/01 09:40 (about the future) 305
Yes, education is still taught in a classroom but the entire focus and system looks nothing like what you have now. Don?t worry, you won?t miss it.

02/08/01 13:18 (about the future) 306
I would characterize world politics as two boxers who have just gone multiple rounds and they?re both pretty beat up. I?m sure someone out there wants to kill us but no one is very organized yet. There is a great deal of fear over rogue groups coming across un-launched missile systems, 55 gallon drums of Anthrax or portable nuclear weapons.

02/08/01 13:18 (about the future) 307
((Korea United?))
I guess you could say that. Taiwan, Japan and Korea were all ?forcefully annexed? before N Day.

02/08/01 13:18 (predictions for the future) 308
I don?t remember a great deal about media coverage during the civil conflicts. I would probably characterize it the same way you see coverage of Waco, Ruby Ridge and Elian Gonzalez.

02/08/01 13:18 (about time travel) 309
From my viewpoint, yes, this is an alternate timeline. From your viewpoint, no.

02/08/01 13:18 (past predictions) 310
The space shuttle mission may or may not have a problem connecting the new lab to the space station.

02/08/01 18:59 (about the future) 311
The ?pattern? of exchange in the war will not be a surprise. Many people will perish as a result of starvation and disease. I would also submit that you already know if you?re safe or not. The trick is to not turn off your fear when you?ll need it the most.

02/08/01 18:59 (about the future) 312
Australia is sort of interesting in what is unknown. After the war, they were not very cooperative or friendly (can?t blame them really). It is known they did repulse a Chinese invasion and most of their cities were hit. They have a trading relationship with the U.S. but I would characterize them as reclusive and ticked off.

02/08/01 18:59 (about the future) 313
The ?enemy? that was attacked by Russia in the U.S. was the forces of the government you live under right now.

02/08/01 18:59 (about time travel) 314
I have no memory of meeting an older me as a three year old. The events between worldlines are isolated and nothing I do here will affect my worldline. Yes, my parents are alive in 2036 but they have no experience with a time traveling ?me? in their 2001 either.

02/09/01 14:02 (about time travel) 315
Please be aware, the displacement unit moves through time, not space. First, we will be driving the current vehicle (Chevy truck) with the displacement unit in it to Tampa Florida. From there, we will go back to my arrival date on this worldline. Then we will have to drive to Minnesota, sell the current vehicle and get another one that would have been around in 1975. We will then move the displacement unit (500 lbs or so) into the new vehicle and go back to 1975. Once in 1975, we?ll drive back to Tampa and make the final hop to 2036. If you?d like to stay in 1975, you?re welcome to do that. It can also get quite hot and stuffy during the trip and you?ll be subjected to a 1.5 to 2 G force the entire time. You?ll also need some sort of a re-breather system or oxygen supply.

02/09/01 14:02 (about time travel) 316
You?ll also need some sort of a re-breather system or oxygen supply.

02/09/01 14:02 (about the future) 317
The war had very profound affects on people and how they relate to each other. As individuals, almost everyone in 2036 is very familiar with death. We all have stories of loved ones that have died from disease, war or acts of inhumanity. Most of us have even taken part in dishing the same thing out to the other side. As a result, we have become far more compassionate to the ones we love but mush less forgiving to those who don?t pull their weight. We are more accepting of other?s differences in our community because we depend on them to survive. We are also more conservative with our resources and closer to God because for a period, life on Earth was Hell.

02/09/01 14:02 (safety, suggestions, assorted philosophy) 318
The other major difference is in the concept of good and evil. With multiple worlds come multiple decisions and outcomes. For every good act, there is an equal and possible bad act on another worldline. Taken to the extreme, this must mean that in God?s eyes, there is no total good and total bad in the superverse. It balances itself out to infinity. I believe we are judged on the decisions we make as individuals and the good/evil I see on my worldline is an illusion that has no worth to God. My reaction to it is what?s important to God. Although this may seem rather heartless, it does allow me to see past the evil that people do and acknowledge the core of potential goodness inside them.

02/09/01 14:02 (about the future) 319
2. I am currently based in Tampa, Florida in Hillsborough County.

02/09/01 14:02 (about the future) 320
3. Yes I am free but I have obligations as a citizen. Everyone is required to have basic military training and provide a period of time for community service. It is very much like a type of mandatory National Guard service + Peace Corps.

02/09/01 14:02 (about the future) 321
4. Yes civil liberties are more important. You will feel the same after having your house searched a couple of times.

02/09/01 14:02 (about the future) 322
5. We do not live in a racist society but definitely a prejudice one. Everyone carries their own water.

02/09/01 14:02 (about the future) 323
6. Our government looks very much like yours. It is a representative republic.

02/09/01 14:02 (about the future) 324
7. My definition of a patriot is anyone who defends the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

02/09/01 14:02 (about the future) 325
8. Religion has become far less centralized. Extremes tend to bring you closer to God so I would characterize religion and spirituality as a much more of a personal institution.

02/09/01 14:02 (safety, suggestions, assorted philosophy) 326
9. I do not know what happens when we die. However, I don?t think it will be easy. There may be some very difficult decisions we have to make when we die that we are totally unprepared for.

02/09/01 14:02 (about the future) 327
10. It?s difficult to define the most predominant religion. Christianity has fragmented into many groups and people with different beliefs speak mush more openly with others who have different outlooks and opinions. I would imagine there are large groups of Hindus, Buddhists and Muslims but I have not come across them personally.

02/09/01 14:02 (about the future) 328
11. No, Jesus did not come back. At least not that I?m aware of. If or when Jesus returns, do you think he?ll be a lamb or a lion?

02/09/01 14:02 (about the future) 329
13. We don?t know what?s on Mars yet.

02/09/01 14:02 (predictions for the future) 330
15. I?m not aware of any ?mind control? devices being used on you now. However, there are a great many ?non lethal? weapon systems in development that turn out to be quite lethal. Sometimes I watch your television programs that show SWAT teams using new non-lethal weapons. They usually start out with, ?In the future, the army and police will fight its enemies with new weapons systems?? When they use the word ?enemy?, they?re talking about YOU! You don?t really think the Marines are going to jump out of helicopters overseas with sticky goop, pepper spray and seizure lights, do you?

02/09/01 14:02 (about the future) 331
17. Yes, Europe is a mess.

02/09/01 14:02 (about the future) 332
18. Yes, I think the New World Order idea tried to establish itself. I would consider them the combination of the old U.S. federal system, Europe, Canada and Australia.

[Spirit of Vengeance]

02/09/01 14:02 (about the future) 333
19. When you say ?teleportation?, I assume you mean public transportation. Yes, we have a basic high-speed system.

02/09/01 14:02 (about the future) 334
20. I don?t know if the government created AIDS. I tend to think yes but controlling it escaped them as it mutated. You can?t have conspiracy to limit the population with a disease without the cure.

02/09/01 14:02 (about the future) 335
21. Yes, homosexuals are in the army. You tend to look past the individual differences of people when thier job is to protect your life.

02/09/01 14:02 (about the future) 336
22. Yes, there are ?gay? people in 2036.

02/09/01 14:02 (about the future) 337
24. Yes, there is an entertainment industry. Again, it is very decentralized. The technology to express yourself with video is so readily available that many people do it all by themselves or in small groups. Much of the distribution is over the web. I would compare it theater here.

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26. The average lifespan is about 60 but I expect that will imporve as we get things cleaned up.

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27. Yes, paper money is still widely used.

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28. The 21st century has awhile to go but the most significant person in my opinion is the farmer-general who led us to victory.

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29. Even for you Tesla technology can be found in appliances, motors and generators. I would have to say we have come a long way on Tesla?s foundation but we don?t have electricity rays that cause earthquakes.

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30. Getting back to my exact worldline of origin is impossible but it depends on how you define the correct worldline. I can get close enough so neither I nor anyone there would know the difference. It relates to the classic example of cutting a distance in half to reach it. You can always get closer but never there. It also has a lot do with neighboring universes on Penrose diagrams but that requires more math.

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31. Yes, we have the death penalty. We also have public punishment.

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32. The most common crime is theft.

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34. Cloning is not common. However, altering the sperm and egg cell are common. It is very difficult to have children in 2036 for environmental reasons.

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35. It?s hard to say what the exact racial make up of the U.S. is. I would say it?s probably the same minus 130 million people or so.

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36. No, there is no segregation.

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37. The education system is very similar to yours but the organization and implementation is controlled on a community and county level. Various communities also specialize in certain disciplines.

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38, 39. My comments on equal rights and ?women?s roles? could be quite lengthy and controversial. I wish to discuss that separately. However, women do fight in the military just as the men do but their role on the community level is very conservative.

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40. Having children is such a serious issue in 2036 that birth control is almost unheard of. It is very difficult and precious to have and raise children. Again, this is an issue I will be happy to go into later.

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41. Yes, there are same sex marriages but it?s not very common. Again, people have lived through so much hardship that if what someone else is doing does not affect them or harm the community, it?s not a big issue.

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42. South America went relatively unharmed. However, there is still a great deal of internal conflict with conventional arms.

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43. Yes, people use drugs that alter consciousness but they are not very common.

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45. There is another Pope but I do not know his name.

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I do believe that ?you?re? UNIX will also have a problem in 2038. I don?t think that?s a secret but maybe someone should put a 5100 aside for thirty years or so.

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I believe the 5100 is unique in its ability to run assembler language on the 360-machine platform and still be portable. I?m not sure if that fact was ever made public so it?s the best ?proof? I have. I would like to examine the software you mentioned; perhaps I can further justify my side-trip.

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((As a programmer, the UNIX issue you refer to is a bit of a problem. I write code in APL, PLI, Lisp, C, C++, VB, Fortran , Cobol, smalltalk, Java, Python, and a slew of less known languages. The 2038 "bug" is about as dangerous as the Y2K bug. I can "with a little tweaking" do anything with a computer that can be done with a computer. I assume there are programmers in 2036, that being the case, a "good programmer" can fix your Y2K38 date inconsistency. As for the undocumented IBM design modification in the 5100, I know nothing so I can't comment there. The new .net platform from microsoft has the capability to integrate all the languages you mentioned + all the ones I mentioned. Would it not be easier to write in the original language instead of having a machine translation?))
I will examine the web site you mentioned. I believe the 5100 is unique in its ability to run assembler language on the 360-machine platform and still be portable. I?m not sure if that fact was ever made public so it?s the best ?proof? I have. I would like to examine the software you mentioned; perhaps I can further justify my side-trip.

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Yes, EMP took out a great number of electronic devices. That?s one of the reasons why we don?t have reliable technology laying around. However, in the opening hours of N Day, the Russians did not launch any high altitude detonations. They knew we would most likely clean up after them so they wanted everyone outside the cities to be able to communicate. Most of the warheads that hit the cities came in threes and exploded close to the ground. The heavy EMP damage was isolated to those areas.

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Actually, you will probably be quite impressed with our internet. It?s based on a series of independent, self-powered nodes that are mobile and can be put up anywhere. It looks a great deal like your current cell phone system.

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As I'm sure Pamela can tell you, my email system is made up of quite a few addresses, locations and computers. Some of them work better than others and for a period of time, I have been unable (in my own way) to get to this site. It appears I?ve come back at just the right moment.

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Yes, there are a great many people who think that Revelations has come to pass. However, the new fear is that Christ has returned, he?s not telling us and he?s very angry.

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We do enjoy ?talk programs? but they are distributed over the web. I don?t have additional information about UFOs and I find the subject quite interesting myself. I have often wondered if they aren?t time travelers with very sophisticated machines. Based on what I know about the nature of time I find this difficult to believe but nothing is impossible.

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Yes, handmade items and the skills to make them are quite prevalent and people take a great deal of pride in their work. People with the skills to make clothing, work with leather and wood or cultivate a garden have become quite valuable.

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Fiji? I?ve noticed that when most Americans think about Canada in this time, they think about pine trees, chooks and back-bacon. It may interest you to know that most Canadians in 2036 are some of the most efficient, ruthless and dangerous people I know. God help Quebec.

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In my experience, evil may be powerful, but they aren?t very bright.

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Current fallout estimates are accurate but a bit exaggerated.

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Once a micro-singularity is produced and placed in statis in a magnetic field, what is the approximate strength of that magnetic field.
How is the magnetic field produced (I mean - what power source holds the field in place)?
What would happen to the microsignularity if that source FAILED? For instance would the microsingularity begin to grow? Or would it cease to exist?))

These are excellent questions that I probably won?t answer to your satisfaction but let me make a couple of points first. Although I am familiar with the general manufacture of the unit, I am not a physicist or a scientist. My background is in history and I had the correct profile to accomplish my given task in 1975. I doubt that most jet fighter pilots are aeronautical engineers and I?ll bet most of you couldn?t give me the formula for horsepower, yet you drive a car every day.

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The distortion unit is not magic and no alien technology was required to make it work. If you could see it, the ?smarts? that went into designing it will amaze you more than the technology. Heck, the really interesting technology is in the computer.

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The magnetic field does not require the fantastic energies you might imagine. The field is ?created? and captures the singularity inside a very large and powerful specially designed particle accelerator. If the magnetic system failed (which has numerous backups including a system that would remove it from this worldline), the singularity would evaporate. Although it is smaller than an electron, it would still be quite undesirable.

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((why do you keep telling us about the ww3..etc.. how do you know that will even -happen- in our worldline? it may have already been nipped in the bud for all you know..because ours is a different -worldline- from yours!))
Yes, you are correct! However, I am not confident things are different enough for you to avoid the conflict. You may also consider the possibility that a world with no war is far less desirable in the long run. In response to your other point, your assumptions about causality are correct but my personal morality still comes into play. I won?t deviate from my three rules because of the way I would feel about myself.

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The singularities do not create Tipler cylinders they create the same physical environment without all the mass. The same math works for both. There are two singularities. Their mass and spin is altered in order to adjust the size of the ergosphere and cause the event horizons to interact and create the gravity sinusoid. I have a basic home schooling education (k-12) and a bachelor?s degree in history.

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I don?t believe I ever said the war was between Democrats and Republicans. If I am incorrect, please point that out. It doesn?t exactly escalate as much as it opens the door for other aggression. Yes, I think the war would be good for society and I would be happy to debate that with you.

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((5. John tells us to: buy a gun, find 5 friends, get a bicycle, yada, yada, yada. ( this conflicts with his above comments: here he seems to want to save some people, while above he wants to kill us all off))
If you could point out how this violates the three guidelines I stated earlier I will give it considerable thought. Perhaps you are correct and that was a mistake. Again, I don?t believe I said I want to kill you. Personally, I think murder is wrong. You seem to be pretty good at that yourself.

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((7. John mentions the Big War(2015) was between the Cities of America (the enemy of John) and Russia, China, etc.(so not only do we have a civil war but now we have a war between the city folk and rural folk in the US, AND a world war))
Hmmm?are you familiar with the Russian partisan movement in WWII?

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((8. John says the civil war which starts in 2004 or 2005 (depending on the post) leads to the world war which starts in 2015. ( So we have a TEN YEAR civil war???))
It?s 2004. I apologize for a missed key (very observant ? we all need good critics). Perhaps our definition of war is different. I would define it as a conflict where organized groups engage in maneuver and armed conflict. The first U.S. civil war lasted 4 years and the English civil war lasted 6. How long is too long?

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Actually, what I said was, ??you may be surprised at how many people use typewriters.? I don?t understand the conflict. What?s wrong with typewriters? At least you don?t have to plug them in.

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((1)Have you ever went on any other time traveling missions? If so, what were they?))
Yes, but they were all training missions. There is a great deal of psychological profiling and testing and one of the training missions involved choosing a time in your life (within two years) where you wish you would have done something different and then going back to convince yourself to do it. The idea is to become familiar with the possibility of meeting yourself which can be rather difficult. It is quite odd to look at ?yourself? and have a conversation. Since any ?you? on another worldline would not be a mirror image, you get a slightly distorted feeling while seeing yourself, let alone the concept of speaking to yourself

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(4)I looked up the name 'Titor' in the state of Flordia on 555-1212.com and couldn't find ANY Titors, is your family not listed in the phone book?
I guess it depends when you look.

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(6)What is the specific Date that the Nuclear war starts? If you can't remember the exact date, could you put the month at least? An estimate!
I remember the exact date. When it comes, it will not be a surprise.

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(7)What is the speed of the average computer in the future? I am assuming it is in ghZ, if it is higher, could you post the name of that hZ measurement and its relation to the ghZ?
Ghz is not a useful measurement. Computers are no longer measured by their speed as mush as the number of variables (not calculations) they can handle per second.

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(8)Can you do your own Time Traveling ventures whenever you want? If so, how much does it cost? Or can you make 'pit stops' along the way back to 2036?
No, the unit doesn?t belong to me. I can?t make stops on the way home as it will throw the gravity measurements off and It would force me to backtrack along the backtrack. Also, I can?t just leave and arrive at any place and time I want to. There are physical and technical limits to when and where I can go.

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(9)Have you ever went past your future, like to 2050 or somewhere around there? If so, what is the world like then?
No, I haven?t been to the future of my 2036. My profile qualified me for a trip to the past.

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The animal Kingdom is alive and well. I?m sure it suffered but there fewer people infringing on animal's habitats now.

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Nuclear war is a very undesirable thing but it is not the end of the world. There are areas and cities we can?t enter and the environment did suffer a great deal of damage but we are recovering. Isn?t Hirroshima a thriving city today? The major physical affects include skin cancer, infertility, infection, etc. Almost everyone has some sort of physical remnant from the war.

[Spirit of Vengeance]

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I am aware of the Mayan Calander but in 2012, it was not something I was able to think about. When the time comes, I?m sure people will find the signs they are looking for that leads them to the end of time.

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When I say fear will keep you alive I am talking about the natural instincts and premonitions that we all trun off when its convienent. The same person who has five dead bolt locks on their door will think nothing about getting into a parking garage elevator with a total stranger.

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I think the fear of God is the fear of separation from God.

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(1)Who is the Major Super Power? ))
It depends on how you define power. If you mean military, the world has developed into an odd balance. There are plenty of nuclear weapons left but if anyone uses them they will be instantly erased from the planet by everyone else regardless of the politics. We are very tired of war.

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(2) Are the two political parties still Republicans and Democrats?
There are no Republicans or Democrats to speak of. There are now over 10 major political parties.

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(3) How many States are there?
The states as you know them still exist but their political power has been combined with other states around them. There are now 5 major geopolitical areas in the united states.

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(4) Which states get the worst?
When you can?t drink the water its bad everywhere.

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(5) Were only cities along the Eastern Sea port hit in the Nuclear War, or all over the country?
Mostly cities and large military areas in the entire country.

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(6) Do companys like Microsoft, Yahoo!, and other internet software companys still exist?
No.

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(7) Does money look alot different than it does now? If you have a picture, could you please upload it and post the link!
No, money is pretty much the same. Unfortunately, I do not have any money with me because I wouldn?t be able to use it here.

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( So then when you time travel you can never actually go back to the EXACT same place you left from?
That is correct, in physical terms, I can never get back to the exact worldline I left from.

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(9) Was alot of the United States' 18-24 age group slaughtered in the war because of Draft?
Yes.

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(10)Do you ever get visitors from later time periods to 2036?
Not that I?m aware of but I can?t say it isn?t happening.

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(11) Are there any other companys, besides the one you work for that have TTs and send them out regularly?
I work for the military. GE just makes the unit.

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(12) Does the government know there is TT going on?
In 2036, yes.

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(13) Why were YOU selected to be a TT? What gave you special qualifications?
I am related to a key figure in the development of the IBM 5100.

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(14) How many TTs are there on the team that you are on? How do new recruits get selected?
My unit has between 6 and 10. When I left, there were 7 others. Military service, physical fitness, history or technical background and special relationship to target contacts get you in the door.

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(15) What all countrys are on our side in the war? What all countrys are on the oposite side?
Don?t have much to add there.

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16) Which country gets the worst in the war?
Again, the entire world is affected. Even if you don?t take a direct hit, dying crops and no water can ruin your day.

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((3) should know a hell of a lot more about the machines you're operating,))
I do know very much about it. I?m just not willing to share it with everyone.

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((1. Is the Chevy truck better than the Ford truck for time travel. I always thought the TT package meant trailer towing. Geez was I wrong! Is Chevy still making time travel machines in 2036?))
The vehicle must have a strong suspension.

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((By the way, I have some very extreme reasons to doubt that a microsignularity exists in the first place, and in the second place, if it DID exist, I doubt it would be the "size of an electron". In any case, a signularity (a black hole for those of you who haven't figured that out yet) is an extreme mass, and holding it in a magnetic field in a gravitational field as strong as Earth's would simply rip the singularity from the magnetic field causing the black hold to crash to the center of the mass of Earth. The Earth would then become part of the black hole as it grew in size, pulling in the matter of the Earth.))
I?m not sure if you want me to go over these issues one at a time or if you?re just making a point. The formula for horsepower is HP = torque X RPM / 5252.

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((2. How did you buy your truck? How could you title it if you are only 3 years old to the title bureau at this point? You won't be able to sell it in Minnesota unless it's in your name and clear. Is the Chevy newer and how did you pay for it? Did you scrounge around to find 40 year old currency in 2036? I know I wouldn't take any money from someone that had mint marks from 2036.))
Don?t worry. Fortunately, these are things we?re taught at time travel school in ?how to get around in the sarcastic 20th century. I said I didn?t have any money from 2036. I have plenty from here.

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((3. Does the truck have to be running when you are travelling through time. Did you come here in a Chevy? What if you run out of gas? Are there any factory options that make it easier, like cruise control?))
The vehicle must be standing still.

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((..and debunk my calculations on time travel. You can't, because you are a fraud!))
When I look up debunk, I see: ?To expose or ridicule the falseness, sham or exaggerated claims.? The reason I cannot debunk your calculations is because they are true. They are not false, based on speculative facts or exaggerated. They are just incomplete. What you really want me to do is finish your explanation or I will be an imposter.

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((There are, however, certain quantities that do remain constant. These constants are related to four-dimensional quantities known as metric tensors.))
Actually, I don?t think that?s correct. Minkowski spacetime (4-D) will not allow you to use Pythagoas? theorem to decribe tensors because time needs to be expressed with the opposite sign. (please excuse my change of varibale case). ds^2 = -c^2dt^2 + dx^2 + dy^2 + dz^2 (where ds describes timelike and spacelike trips). The tensor we should be discussing is: ds^2 = -a^2dt^2 + w^2(df - wdt)^2 + (r^2/ D)dr^2 + r^2dq^2 I hope I got the symbols right but you should be able to recognize this?right? nuts... the a, f, r, Delta and q didn't make the translation in this font.

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ACCELERATION = TIME DIALATION As pointed out earlier, acceleration will produce time dilation. This can be observed by the ?twins paradox?. As one twin stays on Earth, the other twin in his accelerating spaceship experiences a slower passing of time. When he returns to Earth, he is noticeably younger than his twin who aged normally in Earth time. This type of ?time travel? (should have been proven already on this worldline) with atomic clock experiments. With sufficient power, this type of time travel will only provide practical displacement in a future direction. This type of time travel is also isolated to a single worldline. You will not meet yourself.

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GRAVITY = ACCELERATION As Einstein pointed out with his STR, the effects of gravity and acceleration are the same. Therefore, you will experience the same time travel effects in the twin paradox by being close to a large gravity source. In the atomic clock experiments mentioned above, the reason there was a difference in time was not because the clock in the plane was moving, it was because the clock in the well was closer to the center of the Earth. Constant speed is not acceleration.

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LARGE GRAVITY = STATIC BLACK HOLE The next step is to find a large gravity source to use in your time machine. Static black holes provide this type of power. As one twin approaches the event horizon or edge of the black hole, the other twin will watch him as he appears to slow down. He will notice his twin?s watch run slower until it stops at the event horizon. The twin moving toward the horizon will notice none of this and see his watch running just fine. Although possible, a trip into a static black hole will not take you to another worldline and it?s one-way. The force of gravity will crush you.

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ROTATING BLACK HOLE = DONUT-SHAPED SINGULARITY Fortunately, most black holes are not static. They spin. Spinning black holes are often referred to as Kerr black holes. A Kerr black hole has two interesting properties. One, they have two event horizons and two, the singularity is not a point, it looks more like a donut. These odd properties also have a pronounced affect on the black hole?s gravity. There are vectors where you can approach the singularity without being crushed by gravity. (For those interested in seeing a graphic of a photon trip through a Kerr black hole, try here) qso.lanl.gov...

[Spirit of Vengeance]

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DONUT-SHAPED SINGULARITY = PASSAGE INTO ALTERNATE WORLDLINE Another other more interesting result of passing through a donut singularity is that you travel through time by passing into another universe or worldline. Please see Penrose diagrams for Kerr Black holes or you can examine the calculations of Frank Tipler. So now the problem becomes?.where do we find a donut-shaped singularity?

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A PONDERING HAWKING = MICROSINGULARITY Steven Hawking proposed the existence of microsingularities that were created in the big bang. They were probably about the size of a proton and disappeared over the years due to an effect of radiation evaporation. (Yes, black holes do emit energy.)

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HIGH ENERGY PHYSICS = ARTIFICIAL MICROSINGULARITY When I first started posting online a few months ago, I said that major breakthroughs in particle physics were around your corner. Soon, CERN will bring their big machine on line and they will be smashing very fast and high-energy particles together. One of the more odd and potentially dangerous items produced from this incease in energy will be microsingularities a fraction of the size of an electron. (for those who would like to follow the developments at CERN) public.web.cern.ch...

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ARTIFICIAL MICROSINGULARITY = LOCALIZED KERR FIELD Through trial and error, and although they are quite heavy, hot and capable of putting out a great deal of energy (300 - 500 megawatts), it's discovered that these microsingularities can be electrified and captured. It is also interesting to note at this point that electrified singularities also have two event horizons. By spinning these various microsingularities, a localized Kerr field is created.

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LOCALIZED KERR FIELD = TIPLER SINUSOID By using two microsingularites in close proximity to each other, it is possible to create, manipulate and alter the Kerr fields to create a Tipler gravity sinusoid. This field can be adjusted, rotated and moved in order to simulate the movement of mass through a donut-shaped singularity and into an alternate world line. Thus, safe time travel.

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((Do you feel some pleasure in breathing clean air and not having to check a geiger counter every few miles?))
Yes I do. However there is a fear about being here that I can only define as uncertainty. When I walk around in 2001, the air smells clean but I wonder if it really is. In 2036, there is no gray. The air is either clean or it will kill you. That feeling is very overwhelming when I eat here.

02/15/01 17:06 (predictions for the future) 421
You mean other than the mad cow pandemic, the breakthroughs in high-energy physics and the unknown functions of the 5100?

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((Is propane still around in the future?))
Yes but not very much of it comes from natural gas. Hydrogen is converted into propane because it?s easier to handle.

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((I would hope that the paradise I live in would somehow be spared (the Hawaiian Islands) but I suspect it would not be spared as a strategic target for obvious reasons))
My parents went to Hawaii on their Honeymoon. My dad told me a quick story about going to a fast food store and paying 6 or 7 dollars for a hamburger. I got an image in my head of a huge tanker filled with frozen hamburgers headed into the Pacific. Hawaii is very dependant on the mainland for food?.isn?t it?

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((1) Does the last name hubbard have any historical(is that the right term?) relevance?))
You may leave a message to yourself if you wish.

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((2) What happens with Australia? does it play a major part in the war?))
I believed I wrote about Australia a bit earlier.

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((3) What colloquial language is used in the future?))
Many people use the internet for communication and entertainment. I would say that affects our speech. We type very fast.

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((4) What exactly happens to the water? does it get poisoned from radiation?))
Yes, radiation affected the water but that can always be distilled out. There are biological hazards that cannot. In addition, fresh water is hard to come by without talking to someone with a gun first.

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((6) Does time have ends?))
Yes. It is believed that all worldlines end. It is also thought that parallel worldlines that appear to be the same end at different times.

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((7) Lets just say that people from the future are manipulating events now, such as preventing a tragedy, making it never occur. If it never occurred, no body would be sent back to stop it, which would mean that the event does take place. This would lead to the prevention of it happening again, and so on. What would happen in one of these situations?))
Based on my understanding of time, manipulation of your worldline by future time travelers would have no affect on their original or home worldline. If that is happening, it must be for a desired outcome or result on your worldline only. If UFOs are time travelers, they plan on reaping what they sew from you not their home.

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((John, if you really did travel through time you'd be dead. You have to take into account that the universe is expanding, the Earth, the solar system and the galaxy are all moving. If you truely did travel back through time, you'd materialize in 1970 where the Earth WILL be in 2036, which is the vacuum of space.))
This is an excellent point and one I thought I went over a bit earlier. There is a gravity lock system that compensates for the local gravity outside of the Tipler sinusoid. This is the reason the unit is only accurate to about 60 years.

02/15/01 17:06 (about the future) 431
(1) What role does Australia play in the war? You stated elsewhere that they repulse a Chinese invasion - Does this mean Australian government side with your enemy? (As I think I recall you stating that they allied with your side + Russia... Could be wrong though.))
There were deep divisions in Australia also. I would associate it more with a powder keg than a civil war.

02/15/01 17:06 (about the future) 432
((2) Does intercontinental transportation still exist? If so, have you visited other countries?))
Yes, but the market is much smaller. No, I have not been overseas.

02/19/01 11:03 (safety, suggestions, assorted philosophy) 433
((There is no way for you to know if there is no future world leader reading this and believing.))
Are you sure about that? Besides, I think you can have just as much impact as any ?future leader?.

02/19/01 11:03 (about time travel) 434
(I find it very difficult to belive that a software tweak (hence 'software engineers', -software-) done to a 1975 machine could cause it to do this translation more effectively or more portably than something around even today.))
Ahhh?something we have in common. Yes, I felt that way too. However, my job was to go and get it and not debate why they wanted it. I am not a computer expert

02/19/01 11:03 (about time travel) 435
((I find it almost impossible to believe that a tweak done by a 'software engineer' in 1975 could provide for you something that you could find at no other place between now and 'your time', and certainly without having to make a stop-over in our time to get back that far.))
A great deal of the computer infrastructure you depend on is based on very old systems and code. One of the reasons I was sent to 1975 was because of the person I met there, not the technology.

02/19/01 11:03 (about time travel) 436
((4. I have, and continue to believe Dr. Hawking's view in regards to the possibility of time travel if indeed the model of time is what you have suggested, that all possibilities occur in different time-lines, in different universes is the way that time truly is. For this reason alone I cannot accept you. It is entirely logical, and I have seen no good case to counter it.))
I?m not sure I understand what you mean. If you believe in Multiple World Theory, Hawking was not the one who first thought of that. If you do, then I must be real if all possibilities exist. As I recall, Hawking felt that it was possible to build a machine but some sort of vacuum fluctuations would destroy it right before you tried to use it.

02/19/01 11:03 (about time travel) 437
((Time travel may be possible, but if you were to time travel, you would NOT land on Earth. You would land in a vacuum of space. You have to take into account that the universe is expanding, the Earth, the solar system and the galaxy are all moving. If you truely did travel back through time, you'd materialize in 1970 where the Earth WILL be in 2036, which is NOT Earth.. it's space.))
Yes, this is a problem. It was solved by taking a ?snapshot? of the local gravity around the unit before leaving a worldline and incorporating it into the sinusoid during travel. The short answer is, you ?stick? to the earth but this is only a useful explanation to understand it and it?s not practical. Since the computer system is using a virtual reference, the calculations become flawed.

02/19/01 11:03 (about time travel) 438
1. Based on the accuracy and timing of the ?snapshots? the distortion units are limited to how long they can travel before becoming unstable.

02/19/01 11:03 (about time travel) 439
2. We must leave and arrive in areas we have prior or future knowledge of in order to avoid massive objects (buildings, water, etc?)

02/19/01 11:03 (about time travel) 440
3. The unit has a fail-safe system during travel that drops out in case of a unit shutdown or radical departure in gravity readings.

02/19/01 16:01 (about the future) 441
((1.) What weapons did you use to protect yourself throughout your life? Do you have a weapon with you now, just in case?))


02/19/01 16:01 (predictions for the future) 442
((3.) Your enemy was in the cities. Was the President in 2005 also on the enemy side? was the President in 2009 on the enemy side? How did you feel personally about these Presidents?))
The President or ?leader? in 2005 I believe tried desperately to be the next Lincoln and hold the country together but many of their policies drove a larger wedge into the Bill of Rights. The President in 2009 was interested only in keeping his/her power base.

[Spirit of Vengeance]

02/19/01 16:01 (about the future) 443
((10.) Was China your enemy? ))
Not my enemy? I never fought any Chinese but their ability to hit Western cities with missiles made a lot of people unhappy.

02/19/01 16:01 (about the future) 444
((11.) Do they have Pac Man or Donkey Kong in 2036? ))
I am aware they are video games but I have not come across them.

02/19/01 16:01 (about the future) 445
((12.) Does China have a manned space program between 2001 and 2036? ))
I believe they are pretty close to putting a man in orbit. It shouldn?t surprise you if they do that soon.

02/19/01 16:01 (about time travel) 446
((14.) If the worldlines are changed by everyone's choices, this means we are all manevering through timelines as we make these choices. Since everyone is making different choices, why do we still meet people that coincide with our previous worldline? ))
Your worldline takes form as the choices unfold. People do not disappear because you must follow the same physical laws that hold you here. (i.e. Information cannot travel faster than light on a worldline.)

02/19/01 16:01 (about time travel) 447
((15.) In your opinion, would timelines be better represented as an inflated balloon, or a layered Rubix cube with interchanging and overlapping interactions? ))
Balloon in balloon in balloon. A Rubix cube as in the toy, right?

02/19/01 16:01 (about the future) 448
((17.) Does your group have a flashlight in 2036? If so, what type of batteries does it use? ))
Yes, we have flashlights and we use similar batteries for most things. We do recharge a great deal. Have you ever seen those wind-up radios? They?re pretty interesting I think.

02/19/01 16:01 (about the future) 449
((18.) How is electricity generated in 2036? ))
?Most? publicly generated power is through very efficient solar cells. On a local or household level, there is steam, hydro and inversion generation. There is a debate on using a singularity to generate power.

02/19/01 16:01 (about the future) 450
((19.) Does the sun look any different in 2036 than it does now? ))
When you can see it through the high level smoke and haze, not that I'm aware of.

02/19/01 16:01 (about the future) 451
((20.) What sort of clothing do you wear in 2036? Is there strong attention paid to what people wear in the group? ))
Clothing is much more functional. I'm not sure what group you?re talking about.

02/19/01 16:01 (about the future) 452
Seems a bit obscure to have a discssion about. Do we wear radiation suits? No. Do we use pockets a lot, Yes.

02/19/01 16:01 (about the future) 453
((How does this smoke and haze allow for solar cells to be efficient?))
Do you have any idea how effiient solar cells are today? Sometimes it's sunny and sometimes it rains. Sometimes large dust clouds high in the atmosphere pass overhead. I don?t understasnd the point you want to make. The sun looks the same.

02/19/01 16:01 (about the future) 454
((Where did you learn to write and how old were you? How long did it take you? Did you learn before, during, or after the fighting. What do you attrubute to your learning to type fast?))
I was home schooled and I spend a lot of time typing.

02/19/01 13:14 (safety, suggestions, assorted philosophy) 455
I used a shotgun in the war. Yes, I think it's prudent to be prepared for anything.

02/19/01 19:25 (right now) 456
((What state do you live in now in 2001?)) I am in Florida.


02/19/01 19:25 (right now) 457
((Is John Titor your real name?))
Yes, John Titor is a real name.

02/19/01 19:25 (right now) 458
((Does your younger self realize what you are?))
Yes, he is aware that I exist but he doesn?t know who I am.

02/19/01 19:25 (about the future) 459
((What rank were you in the Army?))
It is the equivalent of Major.

02/19/01 19:25 (about the future) 460
((Where did you go to BCT?))
I wasn?t fortunate enough to go to basic. We were fighting a war at the time.

02/19/01 19:25 (about the future) 461
((What company were you with, and what year did you graduate from BCT?))
The organization of the fighting unit I was in fell under the militia. We fought against the organized army.

02/19/01 19:25 (about the future) 462
((In your "world time" have things like "Saquatch" , "Loch Ness monster", and other reported unusual animals been seen, or captured or explained away. ))
We have our swamp monsters too. In fact, I think it?s interesting that we all respond to the unknown the same way regardless of our cultural experiences.

02/19/01 19:25 (about the future) 463
((Is remote viewing used to gather military intelligence?))
I am only aware of it from this worldline. I don?t know otherwise.

02/19/01 19:25 (about the future) 464
((Are psychics still common? are they used by the government?))
Yes, psychics exist but I don?t have any knowledge of their use by the military.

02/19/01 19:25 (about the future) 465
((Is there a Police Dept as we know it. Have any of your top leaders or politicians been jailed or impeached?))
Yes, we have police but they are organized in smaller groups. Yes, we still have political and religious leaders who find it difficult to obey the law. I would submit to you that the law is only as good as the people?s willingness to apply it evenly and swiftly.

02/19/01 19:25 (about the future) 466
((One final question? Is there a Global Superpower state and what nation is it.))
Being a superpower only makes you a target. There is an uneasy balance in the world now that everyone ?probably? has nukes, chems or bios. We don't just bomb people for the hell of it anymore. Military power is based on the number of autonomous fighting men who are actually willing to fight.

02/19/01 19:25 (about time travel) 467
((I guess you are held accountable, in some way, for changes that occur in your time period..))
You?re pretty much correct about your statement but actually, nothing I do here will affect my home. I hold myself accountable for any damage I do.

02/19/01 19:25 (safety, suggestions, assorted philosophy) 468
((It seems to me that with the cities under such stresses, people would flock in large numbers to remote areas like Winnipeg (sorry guys) or some other region with plenty of clean water, air and soil. Why is this such a nelected fix? I would also imagine that the network of Intentional Communities (communes?) that took root over the years, would provide infrastructural support to a nation needing to find its "FOXFIRE" roots.))
In my opinion, people ?now? take clean water, electricity and their feeling of safety for granted. If they leave the city in search of fresh water they first have to make the realization that fresh water is a problem. It?s much easier to demand someone else owes you fresh water than it is to leave the lifestyle that made it bad in the first place.

02/19/01 19:25 (right now) 469
(If I was transposed to the 1920's or 30's, you would have a hard time keeping me off the streets, out of public places, shops, concert halls, etc. just trying to take it all in. Ditto with just about any other time and place.))
I agree with you. The first time I walked into a ?superstore? I cried. I?d never seen so much excess in one place at one time.

02/19/01 19:25 (about time travel) 470
((John - in looking closely at this device, I see there is a hand control unit - with some sort of screen on it. I assume this is the computer interface through which the device is programmed (or time settings are made). Is that an accurate assumption? What does the display show you (for instance, does it simply show things like time/date calculations, or radiation [probably wrong word] of the fields from the device?))
Yes, that is a remote unit. The unit itself gets hot and ?unapproachable? during long travel and you?re usually subjected to about 2 G?s. It gets a little difficult to move around and the hand held unit sits next to you. The unit displays many things but time in transit, time to destination, VGL variance and unit temperature are the most common during travel.

02/19/01 19:25 (about time travel) 471
((Also, there are 16 apparent buttons. I have to assume further that these are multifunction keys (that is you press one for an alt/control function and other buttons have names or labels and perhaps even numerical meanings). Is that also accurate?))
Yes, the menus are screen driven.

02/20/01 05:06 (about time travel) 472
(........My only concern is how it might affect the ?me? on this worldline.)
Actually, this is a good question. If the ?me? here goes on to have the same type of life and future work that I did, it may not look good on his resume that another ?him? has left a videotape behind of his future mission to 1975

02/21/01 06:33 (right now) 473
Perhaps it goes without saying but I would urge everyone to listen to Art's show tonight.

02/21/2001 08:45 am (about time travel) 473
((1) would you be able to internationally travel by: traveling to the year 2001, fly a plane to the desired destination, and then go to the future from there? ))


02/21/2001 08:45 am (about time travel) 474
((2) If each world line is separate from the others, then wouldn't the consequences of your actions now have no effect on your original world line?))
Yes, that?s correct.

[Spirit of Vengeance]

02/21/2001 08:45 am (about time travel) 475
((If this is the case, why won't you tell us things that will give us knowledge or let us avoid death?))
I am not qualified to judge if you deserve it or not and I have no idea if you may be the next (for lack of a better reference) Hitler. However, if I were able to physically help you from a situation because I was there and I knew it was coming, I would help you.

02/21/2001 08:45 am (about time travel) 476
((My only geuss is that you are not a time traveller, and don't want to say anything that could make a gullable person do something stupid. ))
Yes, I am aware that is the obvious first answer but I would hope my moral and logical arguments at least make a dent in your thinking. If you were a time traveler, would you be comfortable giving out all that information after considering the possible consequences? (Provided you knew it). If I were you, I would be worried about what the next time traveler might do?.even by mistake.

02/21/2001 08:45 am (about time travel) 477
((3) how can I leave a message for myself in the future if the things I do in this worldline do not effect the others?))
Just post it here. All this information will probably end up on the web in 2036. If you?re alive then and you think ahead for some reason to do a search on yourself, you might see it. Of course the ?you? there would have no memory of doing it.

02/21/2001 08:45 am (predictions for the future) 478
((your prediction of its pending disintegration, beginning in three short years, is utterly improbable, if not impossible.))
Have you see the documentary on Waco? You can drive to a video store and rent it. It?s called ?Waco ? Rules of Engagement.? Just for argument?s sake, what do you think would happen if information were discovered that confirmed the worst accusations made against the law enforcement officers there? Would you hope?.nothing?
((P.S. The idea of a farmer general leaving his fields to lead his country's troops to victory is an old one going back, at least, to Roman times. Lucius Quintus Cincinnatus, I believe, was the gentleman's name, from the 5th Century B.C. Roman Republic.))


02/21/2001 08:45 am (about the future) 479
Yes, I often think about that when I see pictures of "my" farmer general in Omaha. It?s a large bronze depiction holding a shotgun in one hand a copy of the Constitution in the other. He is looking up at the sky in defiance of God after his father was killed. (At least his name isn?t Sparticus or William).

02/21/2001 04:35 pm (safety, suggestions, assorted philosophy) 480
((How far from what size city is it the safest to be?))
A 10 Kiloton nuclear weapon will vaporize metal for about a mile and have a heat effect for about 3 miles. A 100 Megaton nuclear weapon will vaporize metal to 35 miles and have a heat effect to about 250 miles. I believe the largest nuclear weapon ever built and tested was about 60 megatons. As I recall, the popular strategy toady is to strike targets with multiple numbers of smaller warheads. The 100 Kt to 1 Mt are the most popular. I believe there are about 150 - 200 major cities in the US and half as many military targets. Please correct me someone if I am grossly incorrect.

02/21/2001 04:35 pm (safety, suggestions, assorted philosophy) 481
((You suggest bicycle. What about horseback?))
Yes, horses are good if you can feed and water them. Also, it?s very hard to eat a bicycle.

02/21/2001 04:35 pm (safety, suggestions, assorted philosophy) 482
((Should we be stockpiling guns?))
The answer to this is NO! You will draw a great deal of negative attention to yourself. I recommend become familiar with firearms. This means taking a safety course and learning to shoot and clean many different types. There will be plenty of guns around when you need them.

02/21/2001 04:35 pm (safety, suggestions, assorted philosophy) 483
((What kind of people will be the ones least trustworthy?))
The people with the most to lose if the world changes -Camel through the eye of a needle?

02/21/2001 04:35 pm (about the future) 484
((Is the conflict racial in any way?))
Not at all. In fact, I would say it goes a long way toward erasing racial problems.

02/21/2001 04:35 pm (about the future) 485
((Does the civil war start in such a way that with this foreknowledge those willing will have time to remove themselves to safer locations.))


02/21/2001 04:35 pm (about the future) 486
((Will you readily be able to identify the enemy.))
They will be the ones arresting and holding prople without due process.

02/21/2001 04:35 pm (safety, suggestions, assorted philosophy) 487
((Does living near a river with a distillation unit take care of water problems?))
There is an odd saying that might be appropriate here. Safe is anywhere a hungry person can?t walk in three days. Water is important but you must consider that when people need it they will know where to get it. I would not plan on planting myself permanently next to a water source. Yes, distillation dose make water safe but the runoff is highly dangerous. Please remember that distillation is not boiling.

02/21/2001 04:35 pm (safety, suggestions, assorted philosophy) 488
((How are the five people within the 100 miles contacted?))
The goal is to have a place to go other than your house and to be able to trust someone with your life. Foster those relationships now.

02/21/2001 04:35 pm (about the future) 489
((Do communications stay intact.))
Main communication systems no, CB, sideband and non-repeating short-wave, yes.

02/21/2001 04:35 pm (safety, suggestions, assorted philosophy) 490
((I have 86 acres on a river in Central California about 125 miles north of LA. I have geese, turkeys, horses, chickens, milk cows, good pasture, a well run by electricity, and a garden. I also have two teenage sons who are gun nuts. Plenty of rifles, semi-automatic and otherwise.))
Be mobile. Set aside the things you absolutely would need and can carry on your back. You will not be able to stay anywhere indefinitely even with provisions and firearms.

02/21/2001 04:35 pm (about the future) 491
(( Will he be asked to kill his countrymen?))
I?m not positive but don?t they sign a small piece of paper now asking them if they would have a problem with that?

02/21/2001 08:48 pm (about time travel) 492
((In this experiment the traveller only goes 30 seconds into the past to appear in his lab. It seems that 30 seconds before his experiment was to begin he saw himself appear in the lab. There would now be two travelers and two time machines. It doesn't appear that it ends that simply as the "second" time traveler says that he saw a duplicate self appear in the lab thirty seconds before he started the trip. It would appear that its a time loop and an infinite number of duplicates see a duplicate self appear in the lab thirty seconds prior to the start of the trip. ))
Yes, that?s possible.

02/21/2001 08:48 pm (about time travel) 493
((Your time machine weighs 500 lbs and an average man weighs about 180 lbs. So lets say that that the mass is about 700 lbs per traveler. What is the mass of the duplicates and where did the mass come from?))
The other mass comes from other worldlines. I like to think of it as standing in a room with mirrors on the walls and the apparent ?me? in the room next to mine steps into the room from his.

02/21/2001 08:48 pm (about time travel) 494
((What is the result of the duplicates arriving ~simultaneously at the ~same place and time?))
Psychological confusion and a few fist fights.

02/21/2001 08:48 pm (about time travel) 495
((How long will it take for the loop to decay? Will it decay? Is it a loop?))
The chances of hitting the precise worldline where all the other duplicates are arriving is almost zero. It's possible but increasingly less probable with each arriving duplicate. The divergence decays and the worldline is ?less available? for new ?yous? to arrive on.

02/21/2001 08:48 pm (about time travel) 496
((What happens if the experimenter, upon seeing his duplicate, decides not to continue the experiment?))
He can always leave the room on his own worldline or put a desk full of books in the position where the time machine is arriving every 30 seconds. That will probably trip the VGL system and stop the time machines from arriving.

02/21/2001 08:48 pm (about the future) 497
((Do you remember any poetry or verse from after 2001 in your past?))
A Soldier?s Winter The day before it wasn?t snowing. The trees are strangers, leering, disapproving in the ash of winter ..my world, my life, my wandering path. I pray God?s eyes may once again gaze upon me and remind me that I am still His child. I only (think) I remember the first line but the last one I remember. It has quite a few more lines that I don?t remember. It is rumored this was written first as a letter by a soldier. After he died it was added to and edited by others. In my opinion, it has become a symbol for the collective guilt my parents? generation feels for what became of the world.

02/21/2001 08:48 pm (about the future) 498
((Is there an active market on new books in your time, or has that infranstructure not rebuilt it self? Are most the books available old or new? ))
Yes but there are no large commercial printing and distribution companies. Books and other forms of hard media are distributed on the web and printed or put on other media from local hubs. Napster + mailboxes etc.

02/23/2001 08:08 am (right now) 499
((So - to John... this is a kind of an answer to something you said earlier on. No, military people are not asked to sign anything saying they will kill anyone. It is either an urban legend that has been perpetuated in the past few years, or it really happened with one Marine platoon in 29 palms. I've had two men tell me they participated, and both say it happened, but it was NOT a military-wide thing.))
I agree the details are very important. My statement ended with a question mark. I made no difinitve statement.

02/23/2001 11:31 am (predictions for the future) 500
((2: What happens to Bill Gates between now and 2036?))
This I do know but I won?t discuss.

[Spirit of Vengeance]

02/24/2001 12:37 pm (about the future) 501
((Why are orphans an issue? It seems war orphans would be pretty old by now.?))
Problems with the environment still have lasting affects on all people, which cause the average life span to lower. In addition, people are more susceptible to accidents. Family life and children are very highly valued and the community takes the responsibility for raising children if their parents die.

02/24/2001 12:37 pm (about the future) 502
((What is your biggest or gravest environmental issue?))
Water. You need it for everything and there is very little left in the world that is positively safe to drink.

02/24/2001 12:37 pm (right now) 503
((Does distillation remove radioactivity from water?))
It removes the dust and dirt particles that are radioactive.

02/24/2001 12:37 pm (about the future) 504
((Are there any women on your travel team?))
Not that I?m aware of but I would assume there are women who are either trained or are training for the same type of work. I don?t know why there wouldn?t be.

02/24/2001 12:37 pm (about the future) 505
((What is the status of women in your time?))
I understand the question but I have nothing to relate it to in 2036. The status of women is the same as men. Equality issues disappeared during the war.

02/24/2001 12:37 pm (about the future) 506
((Do they hold office?))
Yes.

02/24/2001 12:37 pm (about the future) 507
((Work outside the home?))
Women are not expected to stay home and be ?barefoot and pregnant? if that?s what you mean.

02/24/2001 12:37 pm (about the future) 508
((Get equal pay?))
Yes.

02/24/2001 12:37 pm (about the future) 509
((Are they safe on the streets at night?))
There is still crime but people do not attack each other the way they do here.

02/24/2001 12:37 pm (about the future) 510
((What do women wear for the most part?))
Clothing is more functional. Women wear very similar clothing as men when working or training. In our free time or with our family and friends, clothing is much more individualized. Long dresses, knitted sweaters and pants are still quite popular. You?ll have to forgive me; I?m not very good at describing women?s clothing.

02/24/2001 12:37 pm (about the future) 511
((Are the Amish alive and well?))
Yes, I believe they are.

02/24/2001 12:37 pm (about the future) 512
((What is the birth rate?))
I don?t know the exact figures but having children is radically lower than it is now. It is the one thing I wish we had that you enjoy here.

02/24/2001 12:37 pm (about the future) 513
((Is there an unusual rate of birth defects and if so what kind?))
Yes. Mostly stillborn.

02/24/2001 12:37 pm (about the future) 514
((You said that your culture was centered around the Universities. Weren't they wiped out in the war? They are in cities after all. ?))
Not all major universities are in large cities.

02/24/2001 12:37 pm (about the future) 515
((Do you use cell phones?))
Yes, we use a form of cell phone.

02/24/2001 12:37 pm (about the future) 516
((Eat allot of red meat?))
Yes but not as much as you do.

02/24/2001 12:37 pm (about the future) 517
((Drive cars?))
Yes but they are not produced in nearly the same numbers or used the same way.

02/24/2001 12:37 pm (about the future) 518
((Are airlines in operation?))
Yes but again, not nearly as many.

02/24/2001 12:37 pm (about the future) 519
((Internationally?))
Yes, but most people don?t get really want to go overseas.

02/24/2001 12:37 pm (about the future) 520
((Are people pressured (subtle or otherwise) to adhere to a Christian doctrine?))
Not at all.

02/24/2001 12:37 pm (about the future) 521
((Do police make drug busts?))
No.

02/24/2001 12:37 pm (about the future) 522
((Are there many jails? What kind of criminals are in them?))
Yes there are jails. Mostly theft, fraud, **** and murder.

02/24/2001 12:37 pm (about the future) 523
((What kind of public punishment is there?))
Hard labor, community service, banishment (you must move to another community), public execution.

02/24/2001 12:37 pm (about the future) 524
((Sounds like New England during religious persecution and intolerance. ?))
How do you define intolerance? We don?t really have the energy or desire to waste time being intolerant. If you produce and help the community than you can do pretty much think and do anything you want within the law.

02/24/2001 12:37 pm (about the future) 525
((Are there Wholistic healers? Herbal medicines? Alternative life styles? ?))
Yes.

02/24/2001 12:37 pm (about the future) 526
((Is there personal freedom?))
Yes, the same freedoms you enjoy under the Constitution.

02/24/2001 12:37 pm (about the future) 527
((Is there an IRS and a need to keep a lot of receipts and paperwork around to justify yourself?))
Yes, we pay taxes. Sounds like you don?t enjoy keeping track of your personal income taxes. I don?t think anyone does.

02/24/2001 12:37 pm (about the future) 528
((Is the same type of currency used? Is ours today good in say 2010 or 2020?))
Yes, we use money. That?s a good question. I don?t see why you couldn?t use your current bills in the future.

02/24/2001 12:37 pm (about the future) 529
((Other than time travel how do most people get around the country? Do people tend to travel much? ?))
There is a high-speed train system, horseback, bike, walking. Automobiles are used mostly for sport and some transportation.

02/24/2001 12:37 pm (about the future) 530
((Are people suspicious of strangers or all you one big happy family now?))
There is still conflict and mistrust. Yes, I am suspicious of strangers. I think that?s an instinct we are given to help us stay alive.

02/24/2001 12:37 pm (about the future) 531
((How do most people die during the war? Radiation, starvation? bullet wounds?))
Correct?but in this order: Starvation ? Disease ? Bullet Wounds ? Radiation.

02/25/2001 07:31 am (about time travel) 532
((Art had a fellow on the show the other day from a Time Travel organization. John, do they have anything to do with the "future" of time travel, as YOU know it?))
There are numerous people and organizations that contribute to the practical application of physical time travel. I think you would be surprised how much real work is being done right now.

02/25/2001 07:31 am (about time travel) 533
((About video taping the departure... Let us assume you do this, and your agents (family?) in Florida send the tape to the Sci Fi channel, or to Art Bell... how would this affect you in the future?))
It wouldn?t affect me on my home worldline in the least. I would only be concerned how it would affect the ?me? here. Of course it may be a large part of my secret agenda and I have no choice but to do it anyway.

02/25/2001 07:31 am (predictions for the future) 534
((You said that there will be a big war right? And that Russia will nuke some of our major cities, right? Can you at least tell us which cities will be nuked?))
No I won?t do that. However, I submit to you that when the moment comes it will be absolutely plain as day that you are unsafe in the cities. The millions people that stay will choose to stay. That's what comes as a surprise.

02/25/2001 07:31 am (about the future) 535
((Are we traveling in space in 2036?))
Not yet but they are working on it.

02/25/2001 07:31 am (about the future) 536
((Has first contact with an alien race occurred?))
Not that I?m aware of.

02/25/2001 08:00 am (about time travel) 537
((1) You say your machine has roughly a 60 year limit. Is it possible to go back 60 years and then another 60 years? ?))
Yes, that is possible but the divergence grows exponentially as you move farther away from your worldline of origin. I could make 50-year jumps to go back and see what the world looked like 2000 years ago but there is a strong chance it would look nothing like what I expect. There are larger distortion units that are more accurate and have a larger window.

[Spirit of Vengeance]

02/25/2001 08:00 am (about the future) 538
((2) Have the people of your time proved the "worldline theory?" If they have, is there any information you can share with is that proves it?))
The Many Worlds theory seems to wrap up very nicely into current string theory. Unfortunately, we have not solved string theory yet either but (n-10) seems to be the best working model we have in 2036. As you are probably aware, the ?big equation? does not need the final solution in order to take advantage of the smaller parts that do work in the real world.

02/25/2001 08:00 am (about time travel) 539
((3) Ever hear the story of Oedipus? To make a long sotry short, after being told he will kill his father and marry his mother he moves far away. On the road he accidentally killed his father and ended up marrying his mother. Thus, the prophecy is what caused him to fulfill it. You say you don't want to effect anything too much by giving out information, but you could drastically change this worldline just by talking about the war, or anything for that matter.?))
I see your point but do you think Oedipus would not have taken those actions if he didn?t know the prophecy? I don?t believe that knowing a possible future makes it happen. You are capable of changing your worldline for the better right now. None of the things I have said will be a surprise. They were set in motion ten, twenty, even thirty years ago. Are you really surprised to find out that Iraq has nukes now or is that just BS to whip everyone up into accepting the next war?

02/25/2001 03:54 pm (about the future) 540
((John Titor ,i posted to you before and would like to let you know that i would love to come along for the ride to the future if you need a sidekick,i am able to fly hot air balloons,a good shot,physically strong and quick,smart on my feet in case a odd event occurs and I would not mind leaving this time to go to yours.?))
I appreciate the offer but I?m not sure you would like the year 2036.

02/25/2001 03:54 pm (about the future) 541
((There have been many movements in music...rock, disco, and hip hop are some of them. Though most people probably can't rifle out names of musical groups from 35 years ago, they probably would have a basic awareness of what musical influences prevailed at the time. So my question is...what is the NEXT big movement in music that will take place here in the US, specifically?))
I appreciate your frustration and quite a few people have asked me questions like this. The expected answer is that I don?t want to break my personal code of ?time travel ethics?. The real answer is, I just don?t know. I was not prepared for the year 2001, I was prepared for 1975. I don?t suppose it would be very impressive if I told you Disco would be big until 1980.

02/25/2001 03:54 pm (about time travel) 542
((Am I getting this right? You load up all the people who want to go with you in the back of your Chevy picup??))((?drive kfrom Florida to Minnesota. Sell that truck in Minnesota, buy another truck older than 1975?) ((?load everyone back in that truck, drive back to Florida and then depart back to the future. Sounds like it will be quite a sight to behold. If you can, swing by Ohio and give me a honk. Your welcome to stay at my place. ?))
Thanks. One thing I do find interesting about time travel tech is the expectation that we can pretty much go anywhere at anytime. These systems are quite complicated and they do have limitations. Are you going to be around in 1975?

02/26/2001 03:39 pm (about the future) 543
((Many people asking about the dangers of the war are asking about cities being nuked. During school today I was thinking about this, and nuclear warfare doesn't seem to be the biggest form of fighting in the future.?))
Nuclear war will be very effective at destroying an enemy?s economy and the people's will to fight.

02/26/2001 03:39 pm (about the future) 544
((Other than the small countries, I doubt nuclear warheads are going to be shot from each end of the globe.?))
I would caution against that. That?s exactly what ?they? want you to think while they continue to develop smaller and more accurate MIRV?s. Have you ever seen a neutron bomb the size of a basketball?

02/26/2001 03:39 pm (about the future) 545
(( John, you say one of the hardest things to do in 2036 is find clean water. You also say you only trust food you've grown. Is any of this a result of your experiences with biological warfare? Is biological warfare a major threat in this war you speak of?))
Yes and no. Yes, biological warfare and accidents do cause a great deal of problems but the lack of a working infrastructure also hinders the continuation of the food manufacturing you depend on now.

02/26/2001 03:39 pm (right now) 546
((My mention of Joseph Campbell was a rebuttal to someone who claimed that your General story was un-original. In fact the most likely leader of a movement like the one you describe would most likely be a Farmer since being a Farmer would provide much of the scenario required.?))
Throughout history, farmers have often been a target of oppression because they are absolutely necessary to civilization but too busy to defend themselves. If you push a farmer too far, they stop growing food and have nothing to do but hide in the woods and shoot back.

02/26/2001 03:39 pm (past predictions) 547
((My asking you if the mention of CERN going on-line and discovering this and that, was a prediction was a genuine question completely un-related to "making a Buck". I wondered if it was just a hint you were giving as to something that could be verified after the fact with little chance of you mentioning it having an effect on it.?))
Please do not be offended by my ?making a buck? remark. I say it with a wink to help other people form their questions. Yes, some very interesting things will be going on at CERN in the near future.

02/26/2001 03:39 pm (about the future) 548
((What 82 page book written in England in 1884 is required reading for all physics students? I admit it's possible you may not know in 2036, but highly unlikely. The same reason that makes it so important for physics students would make it just as important to understanding Time travel. Secondly why is this little book so important. If he doesn't know this it lends more circumstantial evidence to your side. But he could ask someone and then how do you prove that?))
Well, I?m pretty sure it?s not the Principia and it looks more like something to do with Maxwell but to make your point, I did find this. www.livingarchive.uk.com... Just about anything can be looked up.

02/26/2001 09:07 pm (about time travel) 549
((IS your sense of "timing" off, in new time environments? I've heard people who have "out-of-body-experiences" find that it sometimes takes a day or two to regain a sense of normalcy in their minute interactions with the physical world.?))
No, my timing isn't off. I do however find myself stoping in mid-stride and paying extra attention to my environment when I forget "when" I am. When I was a child, my mother would tell me stories about angels. She told me that angels found it hard to communicate with man because man could remember his past but couldn?t see the future. Angels, acting as the eyes and servants of God, had no memory of the past but had infinite knowledge of the future. Although I am no angel, I often thought about that story after I left 2036. Besides that, I do get a lot of colds.

02/26/2001 09:07 pm (about the future) 550
((John - You were born about halfway into this cycle. BTW, GenXers would be about 40-50 years old in 2036. How they doin'? Were they pretty resourceful scrappers?(Fighters/Survivors?))
In my opinion, the Gen Xr?s ended up in two categories. There were the ones who had learned to be independent by breaking away from tradition and societies expectations and the others who had no idea how to take care of themselves and just wanted the trains to run on time. The ones in the first group feel very guilty about "letting" the world go to Hell and the ones in the second group are dead.

02/27/2001 05:25 pm (about the future) 551
((You say you were in the militia fighting the US Army. I would think that civilians would have a snowballs chance in hell of successfully fighting the military.?))
You must realize that why people are fighting is more important that what they are fighting with. The conflict was not about taking and holding ground it was about order and rights. They were betting that people wanted security instead of freedom and they were wrong.

02/27/2001 05:25 pm (about the future) 552
((What does this look like? Is it a stalemate with the resistance/militia hiding out until the cities are wiped out allowing them to surface?))
The cities were not isolated because of them; they were isolated because of us.

02/27/2001 05:25 pm (about the future) 553
((You site the approximate number of cities and military bases intact before the nuclear attack. Are they ALL hit?))
Nuclear weapons and guidance systems are less than perfect. Most targets receive more than one warhead but some of them were more accurate than others. I would estimate the overall accuracy was around 60 to 70 percent.

02/27/2001 05:25 pm (safety, suggestions, assorted philosophy) 554
((Three days walk from where? The nearest city? Again, though, what population makes a city a city and not a town?))
In my experience, a motivated starving person is only capable of walking about three days. The more distance you put between yourself and anyone who is likey to be hungry, the better.

02/27/2001 05:25 pm (about the future) 555
((Does any one or any group stay neutral during all of these years of fighting?))
Some try to.

02/27/2001 05:25 pm (about the future) 556
((Does anyone just lead a reasonably normal life during the civil war?))
No.

02/27/2001 05:25 pm (predictions for the future) 557
((You say the civil war lasts from 2004 to 2008 and then the short big one in 2015. What do the years from 2008 to 2015 look like? How long does WWIII last.?))
I?m not sure I said that exactly. By 2008, I would say the civil conflict is pretty much at everyone?s doorstep. Western instability during the conflict leads to the attack in 2015. WWIII is very short with a longer period of mop up.

02/27/2001 05:25 pm (predictions for the future) 558
((You mention the nature of Canadians but I don't think you mentioned the impact of all of this on that country. Would you?))
There?s not a great deal I know about Canada except to say they were pretty much in the same type of conflict. They did have the Dew Line you know.

02/27/2001 05:25 pm (about the future) 559
((Oh yeah, one more thing that is rather haunting is your allusion to the position of women as being controversial and conservative in 2036. Yikes! What is that supposed to mean?))
It certainly isn?t disrespectful. I apologize if it sounded that way. It?s one of those areas I realize will be difficult to discuss because we may lack similar experiences. In 2036, there is not a desire to ?have it all?. With factors such as the difficulty in conceiving and the decentralization of production and industry, there is not an unrealistic scramble to have a ?career? and a family. Out of necessity and circumstance, family life has become more traditional. However, there are many families where the wife / mother is the main breadwinner and the husband / father remains ?home? with the family. The difference is in the method of decision-making. People do not have children (if they are able) unless they can devote the required resources to maintain it.