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THE THREE HALLS OF RECORDS - By Drs. Gregory & Lora Little

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« Reply #30 on: July 13, 2007, 07:47:11 pm »

Like I said you can`t put all of Cayce readings into a past atlantis, when some  were  individual  readings of a person, that very well could have been of a  person`s future life .
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« Reply #31 on: July 13, 2007, 10:51:47 pm »

Just a question, Cayce saw well into the future by being there, don`t you think he could have gave someone a reading from the future  for that person `s furture life ?
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« Reply #32 on: July 14, 2007, 08:56:04 am »

Cayce was a smart man he gave us our history of the atlas ( atlantis ) since the world began , he said we could be like him, remember and discover those histories of many civilizations, and the histories of many more to come.  Those are the records.

I do really wish Gerg  and Lora  good luck on finding one of those maritime cultures.

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« Reply #33 on: July 22, 2007, 04:13:42 am »

Here is an interesting account of someone's search for Cayce's Hall of Records in Yucatan.  In my opinion, it sheds some new light on the Readings.  In fact, it makes me want to go to Mexico and do some digging myself!

Yucatan search

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« Reply #34 on: August 17, 2007, 04:31:37 pm »

 Smiley  Hi Tom, It's the same sungate from the Atlantis Rising Forums.  Facinating reading.  I've been of the same opinion that the stones were air lifted into place.  The native residents of Easter Island say the same thing about the statues there, that:  "priests form the mainland floated them into place" 

It would make no difference if the temple rose or sank, in my opinion.  The time capsule that contains the records would be well protected, and it would be below the pyramid.  The pyramid would be the capstone, marking and sealing the "hall of records" beneath it.  It doesn't take physic visions to figure this out.  It's just logic.  If you were going to preserve something more valuabel than gold, (higher knowledge, and invaluable history of your species), you wouldn't "cast your pearls before swine" and let primitive undeveloped men destroy your efforts to preserve it.  So they put it where you had to be pretty "darn" smart in order to get to it.   They burried it under tons of stone; a man made mountain.  Grave robbers may have been able to break inside the Great Pyramid, but they couldn't move it to get to the real treasure.  They only found an empty scarcophagus.  The records are in a chamber way underneath it, as they are in the Yucatan.  If you can float stones around they they could, they'll be no problem getting to the hall of Records.  If not, look to build a much bigger crain than we've got lying around, LOL.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #35 on: September 16, 2007, 08:50:54 am »

                               THEORY OF HALL OF RECORDS UNDER THE SPHINX
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« Reply #36 on: September 16, 2007, 08:55:01 pm »

Cayce also said the records are in a pyramid between the nile and the sphinx. Don` t you get it? The pyramids and the sphinx are a record within  itself of the peoples of the Atlas or of the world  ( Atlantis )
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« Reply #37 on: September 17, 2007, 02:24:31 pm »

Docyabut quote:

"Don't you get it?"

Excuse me, lady, but people are entitled to THEIR own opinions and to expressing them!

Last I checked, this country was still a Democracy! 

Maybe it's YOU that doesn't "get it".......
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« Reply #38 on: September 17, 2007, 03:28:41 pm »

 Smiley  Well I’m not a Cayce expert, like “B” and the Little’s.  But I believe I’ve read most of what Cayce said on the Hall of Records.  And it seems to me most of it agrees with the legends and traditions that have persisted about it.   

Besides the angelic interpretations of a sphinx, (as Bianca has pointed out in other threads), the Sphinx by tradition, guards the way to the underworld, (which in Egypt would also be the afterlife.)  So the very imagery of the great edifice would automatically imply that there is something below it. 

To gain entrance, tradition also has it that there was a riddle to solve, (a riddle that the sphinx would demand you solve or not pass.)

There was by tradition, brass doors in the Sphinx that could not be opened without solving the riddle, (whatever and however that worked?)  But the doors were covered over, (apparently by Kufu whose face the Sphinx now apparently bears, and thus that whole controversy that the head is smaller than it should be, because it was modified to look like him.) 

Once inside the doors, your trail was not over.  You were faced with three passages to choose from, (two of which meant certain death).
The journey through the correct passage was also fraught with other tests and dangers, (Not unlike an Indiana Jones Adventure), until the traveler came to a cavern with a subterranean lake, (in some accounts a river).  In the center of the lake, (or across the river), was an island.  On the Island was, (or is), the city of the dead, and in the city, “The Hall of Records.”  In order to cross the lake, (or river) you had to blow the horn and summon the boatman, who would ferry you across to the island, and he needed to be paid with a certain kind of gold coin. 

This subterranean cavern by tradition lies somewhere between the Sphinx and the Great Pyramid, (or directly below the Pyramid), and you can gain entrance to the Pyramid or the Sphinx from the cavern itself. 

Now I’m not sure how much of this “story” or tradition Cayce covered.  And I really can’t quote an exact source, because parts of what I’m related are told here, and other parts there.  So someone help me out here, because I’ve read so many things in so many places that it’s too hard to remember where I’ve learned all of this. 

QUOTE: Excerpts Taken from:

Lost History of the Pyramids
by Tony Bushby

Many ancient writers supported Herodotus' record of underground passages connecting major pyramids, and their evidence casts doubt on the reliability of
traditionally presented Egyptian history. Crantor (300 BC) stated that there were certain underground pillars in Egypt that contained a written stone record of pre-history, and they lined accessways connecting the pyramids. In his celebrated study, On the Mysteries, particularly those of the Egyptians, Chaldeans and the Assyrians, Iamblichus, a fourth-century Syrian representative of the Alexandrian School of mystical and philosophical studies, recorded this information about an entranceway through the body of the Sphinx into the
Great Pyramid:2….

"This entrance, obstructed in our day by sands and rubbish, may still be traced between the forelegs of the crouched colossus. It was formerly closed by a bronze gate whose secret spring could be operated only by the Magi. It was
guarded by public respect, and a sort of religious fear maintained its
inviolability better than armed protection would have done. In the belly of the Sphinx were cut out galleries leading to the subterranean part of the Great Pyramid. These galleries were so artfully crisscrossed along their course to the Pyramid that, in setting forth into the passage without a guide throughout this network, one ceasingly and inevitably returned to the starting point."….

It was recorded in ancient Sumerian cylinder seals that the secret abode of the Anunnaki was "an underground place...entered through a tunnel, its entrance hidden by sand and by what they call Huwana.. .his teeth as the teeth of a dragon, his face the face of a lion". That remarkable old text,  unfortunately fragmented, added that "He [Huwana) is unable to move forward, nor is he able to move back", but they crept up on him from behind and the way to "the secret abode of the Anunnaki" was no longer blocked. The Sumerian record  provided a probable description of the lion-headed Sphinx at Giza, and if that great creature was built to guard or obliterate ancient stairways and lower passages leading to subterranean areas below and around it, then its symbolism was
most appropriate…..

Local 19th-century Arab lore maintained that existing under the Sphinx are secret chambers holding treasures or magical objects. That belief was bolstered by the writings of the first-century Roman historian Pliny, who wrote that deep below the Sphinx is concealed the "tomb of a ruler named Harmakhis that contains great treasure", and, strangely enough, the Sphinx itself was once called "The Great Sphinx Harmakhis who mounted guard since the time of the Followers of Horus". The fourth-century Roman historian Ammianus Marcellinus made additional disclosures about the existence of subterranean vaults that appeared to lead to the interior of the Great Pyramid:3….
"Inscriptions which the ancients asserted were engraved on the walls of certain underground galleries and passages were constructed deep in the dark interior to preserve, ancient wisdom from being lost in the flood."….
... According to Masoudi in the 10th century, mechanical statues with amazing capabilities guarded subterranean galleries under the Great Pyramid. Written one thousand years ago, his description is comparable to the computerised robots shown today in space movies. Masoudi said that the automatons were programmed for intolerance, for they destroyed all "except those who by their conduct were worthy of admission". Masoudi contended that "written accounts of Wisdom and acquirements in the different arts and sciences were hidden deep, that they might remain as records for the benefit of those who could afterwards comprehend them". That is phenomenal information, as it is possible that, since the times of Masoudi, "worthy" persons have seen the mysterious underground chambers. Masoudi confessed, "I have seen things that one does not describe for fear of making people doubt one's intelligence….

In the same century, another writer, Muterdi, gave an account of a bizarre incident in a narrow passage under Giza, where a group of people were horrified to see one of their party crushed to death by a stone door that, by itself, suddenly suddenly slid out from the face of the passageway and closed the corridor in front of them...

Herodotus said Egyptian priests recited to him their long-held tradition of "the formation of underground apartments" by the original developers of Memphis. The most ancient inscriptions therefore suggested that there existed some sort of extensive chamber system below the surface of the areas surrounding
the Sphinx and pyramids….

The popular supposition that the Sphinx is the true portal of the Great Pyramid has survived with surprising tenacity. That belief was substantiated by l00-year-old plans prepared by Masonic and Rosicrucian initiates, showing the Sphinx was the ornament surmounting a hall that communicated with all Pyramids by radiating underground passages. Those plans were compiled from information originally discovered by the supposed founder of the Order of the
Rosicrucians, Christian Rosenkreuz, who allegedly penetrated a "secret chamber beneath the ground" and there found a library of books full of secret knowledge….

The schematic drawings were produced from information possessed by mystery school archivists before sand-clearing commenced in 1925, and revealed hidden doors to long-forgotten reception halls, small temples and other enclosures. (Those plans are included in "The Master Plan" section at the end of the book.)….

The knowledge of the mystery schools was strengthened by a series of remarkable discoveries in 1935 that provided proof of additional passageways and chambers interlacing the area below the Pyramids. The Giza complex showed major elements of being a purposely built, uniting structure with the Sphinx, the Great Pyramid and the Temple of the Solar-men directly related to each other, above and below the ground…..

These accounts are only part of what I have read.  Caycee does not cover all of this to my knowledge.  But what he did say does not seem to refute any of it. 

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« Reply #39 on: September 17, 2007, 03:58:55 pm »

Such great info, Sungate!!!

I remember the first part about the sphinx, but I had never heard of the second part (in blue).

Good to know!!!

BTW, I'm not an expert on Cayce:

I had not much to do with the Atlantis part (except superficially) until I came here.

All those years I spent consulting the readings were about HEALTH -  I have been a Reflexologist
for about 35 of those years and the readings helped a lot - as did the Astrology.

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« Reply #40 on: September 18, 2007, 10:32:07 am »

According to Cayce, the three record caches are identical and contain stone tablets, linens, gold, musical instruments and artifacts of import to the cultures that created them.

According to Cayce, only the actual records taken from Poseidia to the colonies are identical.  These other artifacts are described as part of the Egyptian Hall which was a unique construct co-created by Atlanteans and the ruling Carpathians.

In another reading (2329-3) he actually stated that there are exactly thirty-two tablets or plates in the Egyptian hall of records.

Yes, but these are not the records brought from Poseidia by the Atlantean record keeper, Hept-Supht.  These were tablets made by a Carpathian noblewoman named Aris-Hobeth ,and they rest in her tomb which is part of the Hall of Records complex.

On one occasion he said the shadow of the Sphinx points to the cache although it seems impossible to cast a shadow across the right paw, since the sun never gets behind the Sphinx's head from the northwest.

Cayce offers the correction to "shadow" in that reading as "or light".

"This in position lies, as the sun rises from the waters, the line of the shadow (or light) falls between the paws of the Sphinx, that was later set as the sentinel or guard, and which may not be entered from the connecting chambers from the Sphinx's paw (right paw) until the TIME has been fulfilled when the changes must be active in this sphere of man's experience.   Between, then, the Sphinx and the river. "  (378-16)

The Sphinx body is aligned perfectly east<->west and it faces due east.  The "sun rises from the waters" of the Nile to the east of the Sphinx and the Hall of Records is somewhere on that latitudinal axis ("the line of the light") between these two points.  The clue which Cayce gives here is that the sealed room of records lays due east of the Sphinx and thus is buried beneath the modern village of Nazlet-El Samman which is adjacent to the Giza necropolis and probably built over part of the ancient cemetary.

Records in the waters of the Bahamas are in a submerged temple belonging to an Atlantean named Atlan.  Like Iltar, Atlan was a high priest who attempted to preserve the records of Atlantis...  Since Hept-supt and Atlan were each leaders of the effort to place records in Egypt and Atlantis, it would seem logical that the third person that will someday discover the records might be a reincarnation of Iltar who was the leader of the Yucatan record palacement.  Perhaps, since the spelling is uncerain for El-ka, Cayce actually said Iltar.  Or perhaps, El-ka is the name of someone who was with Iltar in the Yucatan.

"El-ka" does not sound anything like "Iltar"!  Let's give Cayce's stenographer Gladys Davis a little more credit than that!  Cayce never stated that Atlan was a high priest nor that he was in charge of the Temple back in Poseidia.  In the readings, Atlan is described as the brother of the Prince of Atlantis during the time of the second destruction.  In two other readings (including the one about Iltar) Atlan is used to describe a royal house -like the Houses of Windsor or Tudor in England.  The person most likely to be in charge of the one in Poseidia was named Oron, the executive director of the Atlantean time capsule program.  It's only reasonable to speculate that this Atlan in Egypt and his friend El-Ka were priests or spiritual initiates of the Law of One that were two of three people who would receive the location for the sealed chamber of records.

The more logical scenario than the one proposed by the authors is that the leaders and their lieutenants who are associated with the three prime records locations would open their particular repositories.  The reincarnation of Iltar, and his assistants like Ikunle, will open the one in the Yucatan, not Egypt.

Cayce also said that Iltar's record cache would "rise again" and that its contents are in the remains of the"temple of Iltar" near where the University of Pennsylvania (Penn) was excavating in 1933.

Cayce did not state that the Temple of Iltar was where the Penn archeologists were digging.  If anything can be inferred about the Temple of Iltar "rising again" is that it is sunken off the coast of the Yucatan in the area where the Atlanteans initially settled before the final tumults of the world cataclysm had ended.

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« Reply #41 on: September 18, 2007, 11:46:53 am »

More from Tony Bushby:


Ancient cities under the sands of Giza
from chapter 8 of his book: THE SECRET OF THE BIBLE 

Chambers detected by ground penetrating radar

 Chambers and passageways detected by sophisticated seismo-
graph and ground penetrating radar (GPR) equipment in the last
few years established the accuracy of the plans. Egypt is also suc-
cessfully using sophisticated satellites to identify sites buried
beneath the surface at Giza and other locations. The novel track-
ing system was launched at the begin-ning of 1998 and the location of 27 unexcavated sites in five areas was precisely determined. Nine of those sites are on Luxor's east bank and the others are in Giza, Abu Rawash, Saqqara and Dashur. The printouts of the Giza area show an almost incomprehensible mass of net-like tunnels and chambers crisscrossing the area, intersecting and entwining each other like latticework extending out across the entire plateau.

With the space surveillance project, Egyptologists are able to determine the location of a major site, its probable entrance and the size of chambers before starting excavations. Particular attention is being focused on three secret locations: an area in the desert a few hundred metres west/southwest of the original location of the Black Pyramid, around which is currently being built a massive system of con- crete walls seven metres high covering eight square kilometres; the ancient highway that linked the Luxor temple with Karnak; and the "Way of Horus" across northern Sinai.



Among the mystics or members of Egyptian mystery schools,
tradition explained that the Great Pyramid was great in many
ways. Despite the fact that it was not entered until the year 820,
the secret schools of pre-Christian Egypt insisted that the interior
layout was well known to them. They constantly claimed that it
was not a tomb nor a burial chamber of any kind, except that it
did have one chamber for symbolic burial as part of an initiation

According to mystical traditions, the interior was entered gradu-
ally and in various stages via underground passageways .
Different chambers were said to have existed at the end of each
phase of progress, with the highest and ultimate initiatory stage
represented by the now-called King's Chamber .

Little by little, the traditions of the mystery schools were veri-
fied by archaeological discoveries, for it was ascertained in 1935
that there was a subterranean connection between the Sphinx and the Great Pyramid and that a tunnel connected the Sphinx to the
ancient temple located on its southern side (today called the
Temple of the Sphinx).

As Emile Baraize's massive 11-year sand and seashell clearing
project neared completion in 1935, remarkable stories started to
emerge about discoveries made during the clearing project. A
magazine article, written and published in 1935 by Hamilton M.
Wright, dealt with an extraordinary discovery under the sands of
Giza that is today denied. The article was accompanied by origi-
nal photographs provided by Dr Selim Hassan, the leader of the
scientific investigative team from the University of Cairo who
made the discovery. It said:

We have discovered a subway used by the ancient Egyptians
of 5000 years ago. It passes beneath the causeway leading
between the second Pyramid and the Sphinx. It provides a
means of pqssing under the causeway from the Cheops
Pyramid to the Pyramid of Chephren [Khephren] . From this
subway, we have unearthed a series of shafts leading down more
than 125 feet, with roomy courts and side chambers .

Around the same time, the international news media released further
details of the find.

 The underground connector complex was originally built between the Great pyramid and the Temple of the Solarmen, for the Pyramid of Khephren was a later and superficial structure. The subway and its apartments were exca-vated out of solid, living bedrock-a truly extraordinary feat, considering it was built thousands of years ago.

There is more to the story of under-ground chambers at Giza, for media reports described the unearthing of a subterranean passageway between the Temple of the Solar-men on the plateau and the Temple of the Sphinx in the valley. That passageway had been unearthed a few years before the release and publication of that particular newspaper article.

 The discoveries led Dr Selim Hassan and others to believe and publicly state that, while the age of the Sphinx was always enigmatic in the past, it may have been part of the great architectural plan that was deliberately arranged and carried out in association with the **** of the Great Pyramid.

Archaeologists made another major discovery at that time.
Around halfway between the Sphinx and Khephren's Pyramid were discovered four enormous vertical shafts, each around eight feet square, leading straight down through solid limestone. It is called "Campbell's Tomb" on the Masonic and Rosicrucian plans, and "that shaft complex", said Dr Selim Hassan, "ended in a spacious room, in the centre of which was another shaft that descend-ed to a roomy court flanked with seven side chambers ". Some of the chambers contained huge, sealed sarcophagi of basalt and granite, 18 feet high.

 The discovery went further and found that in one of the seven rooms there was yet a third vertical shaft, dropping down deeply to a much lower chamber. At the time of its discovery , it was flooded with water that partly covered a solitary white sarcophagus.

 That chamber was named the "Tomb of Osiris" and was shown
being "opened for the first time" on a fabricated television docu-
mentary in March 1999. While originally exploring in this area in
1935, Dr Selim Hassan said:

 We are hoping to find some monuments of importance after
clearing out this water. The total depth of these series of
shafts is more than 40 metres or more than 125 feet. . . In the
cour,'!e of clearing the southern part of the subway, there was
found a very fine head of a statue which is very expressive in
every detail of the face .


According to a separate newspaper report of the time, the statue
was an excellent sculpted bust of Queen Nefertiti, described as "a
beautiful example of that rare type of art inaugurated in the
Amenhotep regime". The whereabouts of that statue today are

 The report also described other chambers and rooms beneath
the sands, all interconnected by secret and ornate passageways.
Dr Selim Hassan revealed that not only are there inner and outer
courts, but they also found a room they named the "Chapel of
Offering" that had been cut into a huge, rock outcrop between
Campbell's Tomb and the Great Pyramid. In the centre of the
chapel are three ornate vertical pillars standing in a triangular
shaped layout. Those pillars are highly significant points in this
study, for their existence is recorded in the Bible. The conclusion
drawn is that Ezra, the initiated Torah writer (c. 397 BC), knew
the subterranean layout of passages and chambers at Giza before
he wrote the Torah.


That underground design was probably the
origin of the triangular shaped layout around the central altar in a
Masonic lodge. In Antiquities of the Jews, Josephus, in the first
century, wrote that Enoch of Old Testament fame constructed an
underground temple consisting of nine chambers. In a deep vault
inside one chamber with three vertical colpmns, he placed a
triangular-shaped tablet of gold bearing upon it the absolute name of the Deity (God).

The description of Enoch's chambers was
similar to the description of the Chapel of Offering under the sand
just east of the Great Pyramid.

An anteroom much like a burial chamber, but "undoubtedly a
room of initiation and reception "(5) was found higher up the
plateau closer to the Great Pyramid and at the upper end of a slop-
ing passage, cut deep into rock on the northwest side of the
Chamber of Offering (between the Chamber of Offering and the
Great Pyramid). In the centre of the chamber is a 12-foot long
sarcophagus of white Turah limestone and a collection of fine
alabaster vessels. The walls are beautifully sculpted with scenes,
inscriptions and emblems of particularly the lotus flower. The
descriptions of alabaster vessels and the emblematic lotus flower
have remarkable parallels with what was found in the temple-
workshop on the summit of Mt Sinai/Horeb by Sir William Petrie
in 1904.


Additional underground rooms, chambers, temples and
hallways were discovered, some with vertical circular stone
support columns, and others with wall carvings of delicate figures
of goddesses clothed in beautiful apparel. Dr Selim Hassan's
report described other magnificently carved figures and many
beautifully coloured friezes. Photographs were taken and one
author and researcher who saw them, Rosicrucian H. Spencer
Lewis recorded that he was "deeply impressed" with the images.
It is not known where the rare specimens of art and relics are
today, but some were rumoured to have been smuggled out of
Egypt by private collectors.


The foregoing particulars are but a few contained in Dr Selim
Hassan's extensive report that was published in 1944 by the
Government Press, Cairo, under the title Excavations at Giza (10
volumes). Howevet, that is just a mere fragment of the whole
truth of what is under the area of the Pyramids. In the last year of
sand clearing, workers uncovered the most amazing discovery
that stunned the world and attracted international media coverage.


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"the city" deep in huge natural cavern

Archaeologists in charge of the discovery were "bewildered" at
what they had unearthed, and stated that the city was the most
beautifully planned they had ever seen. It is replete with temples,
pastel-painted peasant dwellings, workshops, stables and other
buildings including a palace. Complete with hydraulic under-
ground waterways, it has a perfect drainage system along with
other modern amenities. The intriguing question that arises out of
the discovery is: where is that city today?

Its secret location was recently revealed to a select group of
people who were given permission to explore and film the city. It
exists in a huge natural cavern system below the Giza Plateau that
extends out in an easterly direction under Cairo. Its main entry is
from inside the Sphinx, with stairs cut into rock that lead down to
the cavern below the bedrock of the River Nile.

The expedition carried down generators and inflatable rafts and
travelled along an underground river that led to a lake one kilometre wide. On the shores
of the lake nestles the city, and permanent lighting is provided by large crystalline balls
set into the cavern walls and ceiling. A second entry to the city is found in stairs leading
up to the basement of the Coptic Church in old Cairo (Babylon). Drawing from narra-tives of people "living in the Earth" given in the books of Genesis, Jasher and Enoch, it is possible that the city was originally called Gigal.

 Film footage of the expedition was shot and a documentary called Chamber of the Deep was made and subsequently shown to private audiences. It was
originally intended to release the
footage to the general public, but for some reason it was withheld.

A multi-faceted spherical crystalline
object the size of a baseball was brought
up from the city, and its supernatural
nature was demonstrated at a recent
conference in Australia. Deep within
the solid object are various hieroglyphs
that slowly turn over like pages of a
book when mentally requested to do so
by whoever holds the object. That
remarkable item revealed an unknown form of technology

and was recently sent to NASA in the USA for analysis.


Historical documents recorded that, during the 20th century,
staggering discoveries not spoken of today were made at Giza and
Mt Sinai, and Egyptian rumours of the discovery of another
underground city within a 28-mile radius of the Great Pyramid
abound. In 1964, more than 30 enormous, multilevelled subsur-
face cities were discovered in the old Turkish kingdom of
Cappadocia. One city alone contained huge caverns, rooms and
hallways that archaeologists estimated supported as many as
2,000 households, providing living facilities for 8,000 to 10,000
people. Their very existence constitutes evidence that many such
subterranean worlds lie waiting to be found below the surface of
the Earth.

Excavations at Giza have revealed underground subways,
temples, sarcophagi and one interconnected subterranean city, and
validation that underground passageways connected the Sphinx to
the Pyramids is another step towards proving that the whole
complex is carefully and specifically thought out.



Because of Dr Selim Hassan's excavations and modern space
surveillance techniques, the records and traditions of the ancient Egyptian mystery schools that claim to preserve secret knowlege of the Giza Plateau all rose to the highest degree of acceptability.

However, one of the most puzzling aspects of the discovery of
underground facilities at Giza is the repeated denial of their
existence by Egyptian authorities and academic institutions. So persistent are their refutations that the claims of mystery schools were doubted by the public and suspected of being fabricated in order to mystify visitors to Egypt. The scholastic attitude is typified by a Harvard University public statement in 1972:

 No one should pay any attention to the preposterous claims
in regard to the interior of the Great Pyramid or the pre-
sumed passageways and unexcavated temples and halls
beneath the sand in the Pyramid district
made by those who are as lociated with
the so-called ,secret cults or mystery
societies of Egypt and the Orient. These
things exist only in the minds of those
who seek to attract the seekers for mys-
tery, and the more we deny the existence
of these things, the more the public is
led to suspect that we are deliberately
trying to hide that which constitutes one
of the great secrets of Egypt. It is better
for us to ignore all of these claims than
merely deny them. All of our excava-
tions in the territory of the Pyramid
have failed to reveal any under-
ground passageways or halls, tempies, grottos , or

anything of the kind except the one temple adjoining the Sphinx.


It was well enough for scholarly
opinion to make such a statement on
the subject, but in preceding years, offi-
cial claims were made stating that there
was no temple adjoining the Sphinx.
The assertion that every inch of the ter-
ritory around the Sphinx and pyramids
had been explored deeply and thor-
oughly was disproved when the temple
adjoining the Sphinx was discovered in the sand and eventually opened to the public. On matters outside official policy, there appears to be a hidden level of censorship in operation, one designed to protect both Eastern and Western religions.



In spite of amazing discoveries, the stark truth is that the early
history of Egypt remains largely unknown and therefore
unmapped territory. It is not possible, then, to say precisely how miles of underground passageways and chambers beneath the Giza Plateau were lit, but one thing is for sure: unless the ancients could see in the dark, the vast subterranean areas were somehow illuminated. The same question is addressed of the interior of the Great Pyramid, and Egyptologists have agreed that flaming torches were not used, for ceilings had not been black-ened with residual smoke.


From what is currently known about subsurface passageways
under the Pyramid Plateau, it is possible to determine that there are at least three miles of passageways 10 to 12 storeys below ground level. Both the Book of the Dead and the Pyramid Texts make striking references to "The Light-makers", and that extraor-
dinary description may have referred to a body of people respon-
sible for lighting the subterranean areas of their complexes.
Iamblichus recorded a fascinating account that was found on a
very ancient Egyptian papyrus held in a mosque in Cairo. It was
part of a 100 BC story by an unknown author about a group of
people who gained entry to underground chambers around Giza
for exploratory purposes. They described their experience:


We came to a chamber. When we entered, it became auto-
matically illuminated by light from a tube being the height of
one man's hand [approx. 6 inches or 15.24 cm] and thin,
standing vertically in the corner. As we approached the tube,
it shone brighter. . .the slaves were scared and ran away in
the direction from which we had come! When I touched it, it
went out. We made every effort to get the tube to glow again,
but it would no longer provide light. In
some chambers the light tubes worked and
in others they did not. We broke open one
of the tubes and it bled beads of silver-
coloured liquid that ran fastly around the
floor until they disappeared between the cracks (mercury?)

As time went on, the light tubes gradu-
ally began to fail and the priests removed
them and stored them in an underground
vault they specially built southeast of the
plateau. It was their belief that the light
tubes were created by their beloved Imhotep,

who would some day return to make them work once again.


It was common practice among early Egyptians to seal lighted lamps in the
sepulchres of their dead as offerings to
their god or for the deceased to find their
way to the "other side". Among the
tombs near Memphis (and in the Brahmin
temples of India), lights were found oper-
ating in sealed chambers and vessels, but
sudden exposure to air extinguished them or caused their fuel to evaporate.(6)


Greeks and Romans later followed the custom, and the tradition became generally established-not only that of actual burning lamps, but minia-
ture reproductions made in terracotta were buried with the dead.
Some lamps were enclosed in circular vessels for protection, and
instances are recorded where the original oil was found perfectly
preserved in them after more than 2,000 years. There is ample
proof from eyewitnesses that lamps were burning when the sepul-
chres were sealed, and it was declared by later bystanders that
they were still burning when the vaults were opened hundreds of
years later.

  The possibility of preparing a fuel that would renew itself as
rapidly as it was consumed was a source of considerable contro-
versy among mediaeval authors, and numerous documents exist
outlining their arguments. After due consideration of evidence at
hand, it seemed well within the range of possibility that ancient
Egyptian priest-chemists manufactured lamps that burned if not
indefinitely then at least for considerable periods of time.

Numerous authorities have written on the subject of ever-
burning lamps, with W. Wynn Westcott estimating that the number
of writers who have given the subject consideration as more than 150 and H. P. Blavatsky as 173. While conclusions reached by
different authors are at a variance, a majority admitted the
existence of the phenomenal lamps. Only a few maintained that
the lamps would burn forever, but many were willing to concede
that they might remain alight for several centuries without
replenishment of fuel.


It was generally believed that the wicks of those perpetual
lamps were made of braided or woven asbestos, called by early
alchemists "salamander's wool". The fuel appeared to have been
one of the products of alchemical research, possibly produced in
the temple on Mt Sinai. Several formulae for making fuel for the
lamps were preserved, and in H. P. Blavatsky's profound work,
Isis Unveiled, the author reprinted two complicated formulae from
earlier authors of a fuel that "when made and lighted, will burn
with a perpetual flame and you may set this lamp in any place
where you please ".   

Some believe the fabled perpetual lamps of
temples to be cunning mechanical con-
trivances, and some quite humorous explana-
tions have been extended.

 In Egypt, rich underground deposits of
asphalt and petroleum exist, and some would
have it that priests connected asbestos wicks
by a secret duct to an oil deposit, which in turn
connected to one or more lamps. Others
thought that the belief that lamps burned
indefinitely in tombs was the result of the fact
that in some cases fumes resembling smoke
poured forth from the entrances of newly
opened vaults. Parties going in later, and dis-
covering lamps scattered about the floor ,
assumed that they were the source of the
fumes. There were some well-docu-
mented stories concerning the discovery
of ever-burning lamps not only in Egypt
but also in other parts of the world.


De Montfaucon de Villars gave this
fascinating account of the opening of the
vault of Rosicrucian Christian
Rosenkreuz. When the Brethren entered
the tomb of their illustrious founder 120
years after his death, they found a perpet-
uallamp brightly shining in a suspended
manner from the ceiling. "There was a
statue in armour [a robot] which destroyed the source of light
when the chamber was opened."7 That is strangely similar to the
accounts of Arab historians who claimed that automatons guarded
galleries under the Great Pyramid.


A 17th-century account recorded another story about a robot.
In central England, a curious tomb was found containing an
automaton that moved when an intruder stepped upon certain
stones in the floor of the vault. At that time, the Rosicrucian con-
troversy was at its height, so it was decided that the tomb was that
of a Rosicrucian initiate. A countryman discovered the tomb,
entered and found the interior brilliantly lit by a lamp hanging
from the ceiling. As he walked toward the light, his weight
depressed the floor stones and, at once, a seated figure in heavy
armour began to move. Mechanically it rose to its feet and struck
the lamp with an iron baton, destroying it and thus effectively pre-
venting the discovery of the secret substance that maintained the
flame. How long the lamp had burned was unknown, but the
report said that it had been for a considerable number of years.

not in the NEXUS-article:

comment: in the book THE CAVE OF THE ANCIENTS - the tibetan Lobsang Rampa talks about these kind of lamps

short extract: " ...One sequence of pictures showed a group of thoughtful men planning what they termed a "Time Capsule" (what we called "The Cave of the Ancients"), wherein they could store for later generations working models of their machines and a complete, pictorial record of their culture and lack of it. Immense machines excavated the living rock. Hordes of men installed the models and the machines. We saw the cold light spheres hoisted in place, inert radio-active substances giving off light for millions of years. Inert in that it could not harm humans, active in that the light would continue almost until the end of Time itself.

We found that we could understand the language, then the explanation was shown, that we were obtaining the "speech" telepathically. Chambers such as this, or "Time Capsules", were concealed beneath the sands of Egypt, beneath a pyramid in South America, and at a certain spot in Siberia. Each place was marked by the symbol of the times; the Sphinx. We saw the great statues of the Sphinx, which did not originate in Egypt, and we received an explanation of its form. Man and animals talked and worked together in those far-off days. The cat was the most perfect animal for power and intelligence. Man himself is an animal, so the Ancients made a figure of a large cat body to indicate power and endurance, and upon the body they put the breasts and head of a woman. The head was to indicate human intelligence and reason, while the breasts indicated that Man and Animal could draw spiritual and mental nourishment each from the other. That Symbol was then as common as is Statues of Buddha, or the Star of David, or the Crucifix at the present day.

We saw oceans with great floating cities, which moved....

from Rampa-page

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« Reply #43 on: September 18, 2007, 02:22:35 pm »

Hi Docyabut,

I'll respond to a few of your statements here:

The problem is people have tried to put the readings together to make only a past record of the atlas or the world, when in some of these readings there are future lives.

Cayce detailed his clients past lives in reversed, chronological order and only the significant lifetimes that had a karmic relevance to that person's current life.  That's simply the truth about the format in which the 2500 life readings are laid out, and no one has tried to put things together in any other way.  The Atlantean lives in these readings were always the oldest of the historical lineup which also included such periods as ancient Rome, Greece, the American Revolution, etc. These are obviously not future lives!

He talks of fying machines, robots television , x rays machines, elevators and power plants  of atlantis, we know that is not possiable in a  past ancient civilization,so it has to be of  a future land  now called atlantian , the Americas.

Why isn't this possible in a past civilization?  It only takes about 150 years to go from horses and wagons to spacecraft.  If America was wracked by a cataclysm, submerged, and covered with sediment there would be very little left to speak of in 12,000 years.  All materials aside from stone (e.g. metals, plastics, wood, etc.) will break down within a very short period of time, and that includes most of what comprises our current, material civilization.  What Cayce did indicate is that civilizations rise and fall cyclically, that lands go up and down, and America is the latest incarnation of Atlantis -"Atlantis IV" for those who are keeping track.

I don`t believe any written records persay will be found, the sphinx and the strutures of the west are records within themselves.

Cayce did speak of records carried to the Yucatan, to Egypt, and additional records scribed by people in the temples of these places - that's undeniable, but you are correct in that the monuments of Giza are expressions of accumulated advanced knowledge (math, geometry, and astronomy) in stone as well.  Cayce indicated that the timeline of man is expressed within the Great Pyramid, matching the beliefs of his Rosicrucian clientele of the time.  This is why cataclysmic upheavals were predicted for years such as 1936, 1958 and 1998 because that's when the timeline supposedly ends in the King's Chamber according to several interpretations within this theory. 

Cayce also said the records are in a pyramid between the nile and the sphinx. Don` t you get it? The pyramids and the sphinx are a record within  itself of the peoples of the Atlas or of the world  ( Atlantis )

Yes, according to the readings the pyramid of records is between the Sphinx and the Nile, and perhaps some other small pyramids as well.  The Sphinx was left as a location marker by the ancients, and the Great Pyramid is a initiation machine.

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« Reply #44 on: September 18, 2007, 03:40:08 pm »

 Smiley  'Rock, you've posted even more of it, and then some.  KTC cat had talked about the cement walls being constructed, but made it seem that it was around the Great Pyramid complex itself.  It looks more like they're making sure no one else can get down into the labrynth of tunnels.  Looks like Cayce may be right, if the rest of us get to know about it. 

The expedition carried down generators and inflatable rafts and
travelled along an underground river that led to a lake one kilometre wide. On the shores
of the lake nestles the city, and permanent lighting is provided by large crystalline balls
set into the cavern walls and ceiling. A second entry to the city is found in stairs leading
up to the basement of the Coptic Church in old Cairo (Babylon). Drawing from narra-tives of people "living in the Earth" given in the books of Genesis, Jasher and Enoch, it is possible that the city was originally called Gigal.

 Film footage of the expedition was shot and a documentary called Chamber of the Deep was made and subsequently shown to private audiences. It was
originally intended to release the
footage to the general public, but for some reason it was withheld.

The river, the lake, it's all there!  I've heard legends of crystal balls on top of poles that were lights in the Amazon Jungle.  The ley lines power them.  But "it was withheld for some reason", huh.  Gee, big surprise!

This is great stuff!  I need time to digest it.   Wink
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