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« on: January 07, 2008, 04:36:59 pm »

Monday, January 07, 2008
Is Osama Bin Laden Dead? Benazir Bhutto Thought So!

http://lawhawk.blogspot.com/2008/01/is-osama-bin-laden-dead-benazir-bhutto.html

In a November 2, 2007 interview with Sir David Frost on 'Frost Over the World', Benazir Bhutto states that Osama Bin Laden is dead, and Sheik Omar killed him. The video can be found on The Polijam Times website.

http://www.polijam.com/NR/Bhutto_says_who_killed_bin_laden.html

Unfortunately, the interviewer does not follow up on the statement, which was made during a discussion of a then recent assassination attempt on her life. The revelation is made at the 6:13 minute mark of the video.

What did she know? Is she correct? Is Osama Bin Laden dead? Why was the statement never followed up on during the interview? Was she killed because she knew something she should not have known -- and said it during this interview? It has been speculated that Al Qaeda had a hand in her assassination. Could it have been true? Is this part of Scotland Yard's investigation?

The better question, why did the media never report on this? A major political person, such as Bhutto claims that one of the most wanted men in the world is dead at the hands of Sheik Omar, and not a word on any other web site. I only found out about it after meeting the creator of The PoliJam Times at a party this weekend. Where he found the video, I do not know.

The even better question, is she right? Is Osama visiting his 72 virgins? Did Sheik Omar have a hand in his death? If so, why kill Osama? Why kill him now? Was the most recent Osama Bin Laden message a fake, or recorded much earlier?

Many questions!


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Labels: Al Qaeda, Benazir Bhutto, Mullah Omar, Osama bin Laden, Pakistan, Taliban, terrorism
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« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2008, 04:39:02 pm »

I have just heard the uncensored version and she states casually that Bin Laden is dead, as if everyone knows it.

The BBC version censored it and the quote does not appear.

In the uncensored version, it is plain as day.

Of course, the fools in the BBC continue to keep this info from the press in order to protect the criminals in the Bush administration, who wanted to continue using it for political gain. 
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« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2008, 08:49:20 pm »

I'd like to hear more about this, when did he die?  How long has he been dead?
What sort of evidence is there that the world has of Bin Laden's death but that America doesn't know?
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« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2008, 10:37:54 pm »



Benazir Bhutto: Bin Laden Murdered
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« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2008, 10:47:38 pm »

Osama bin Laden's Dead
Submitted by kelley b on Thu, 2008-01-03 18:46.
 
Republican Lying Department of No! They Would Never to Do That! Company, Inc.
There was just the Bhutto verbal slip, that many thought was simply a misattribution, that may have precipitated the violence.

It’s all we have to go on, but there are at least a couple of more kinks in the story, reported by no less than The New York Times and FOX itself in 2002.

People have been starting to notice some funny things. If he’s dead, and the Administration really did know about his death in 2002, that would be an awfully embarrasing fact to come out in an election year. Then there’s the tinfoil question of whether or not the Pak secret police really killed him- and assumed control of Al Qaeda operations.

That being the other statement of Bhutto’s that you can’t write off as a simple misattribution.

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« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2008, 10:49:19 pm »

Osama was two taste treats in one
Submitted by MJS on Thu, 2008-01-03 21:35.

Osama alive has market value
He scares the sheeple so
Osama dead becomes bad bread
Made from stale and moldy dough

Be he alive or be he dead
His fate: to be a tool
Keep them in line, not serpentine
A screeching, howling ghoul

If there is no story here
Then stories don’t exist
Was his death commonly known
Is there something we have missed?

Heads will roll, but not that far
Their shapes not perfectly round
Want to go bowling in Pakistan
And watch the pins fall down?


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« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2008, 10:50:44 pm »

Fox and NYT say Osama is dead
Submitted by Len Hart (not verified) on Fri, 2008-01-04 08:02.

It does matter whether or not Osama is alive or dead. Osama was the Bush admin’s poster boy for world wide terrorism.

There is also a difference between merely misspeaking and being wrong. There is also a difference between merely being wrong and lying.

In Bhutto’s case, there is absolutely no reason to suppose that Bhutto misspoke. She made a statement about Bin Laden in context; she did not search for a name; she did not pause. Statements saying that she misspoke are pure supposition and there are no verifiable facts to support them.

Most who think she misspoke think she had Osama confused with Daniel Perle. Only an idiot would mistake one for the other and Bhutto was no idiot.

Moreover, Bhutto’s claim that Bin Laden is dead may very well be true. Several MSM outlets have reported precisely that, and, inexplicably they have been ignored. The best example is the FOX report of Dec 2001, for example. All but ignored —-even by Fox. The New York Times reported in 2002 that Bin Laden was dead and has apparently re-discovered their story. As of yesterday, it had been republished on the NYT web site.

My own opinion is that Bin Laden had been long dead by the time a ’tape’ surfaced just prior to the 2004 elections. Many believe the tape was faked. If it was faked —who faked it? Certainly, this release was believed by political pollsters and consultants to have ’re-elected’ Bush. Qui bono?

It also raises the question —who faked the tape? Who played the part of Bin Laden? Whose camera was it?

It was all the work of a ’lone videographer, working alone’

Sure!

The ONLY world wide conspiracy that we are supposed to believe in is the one that has been promoted most vociferously by George W. Bush, Dick Cheney et al. What is al Qaeda, if not a conspiracy? Bust let’s be fair: what is the GOP leadership if not an indictable criminal conspiracy?

In the meantime, check Findlaw or the Cornell Law School library. Search for SCOTUS or Federal Court decisions having to do with ’conspiracies’. There may be thousands. An easier search is decisions NOT having to do with conspiracies.

That’s a helluva lot of ink, time, and labor about something that does not exist. Besides—what is al Qaeda if not a conspiracy? The Bush administration, indeed, the GOP clearly believes in the theories that it wants YOU to believe.
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« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2008, 10:52:35 pm »

Osama Bin Dead Longtime

The conventional wisdom pretty much everywhere in the world except Sheepleville, U.S. is that Osama Bin Dead Longtime.

In fact, here is a copy of his obituary, run in an Egyptian newspaper shortly after 9/11:

http://www.welfarestate.com/binladen/fun

“Tim Osman,” real name Osama Bin Laden, was on the CIA payroll for decades. He was on death’s doorstep on 9/11, and he knew it. He was a willing patsy.


http://correntewire.com/osama_bin_ladens_dead
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« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2008, 10:55:00 pm »

If bin Laden was dead,
Would the U.S. admit it?

AP Article, 4/26/02, by ROBERT BURNS
"We're hunting him down," he said. "We're tracking him down. He's hiding. We haven't heard hide nor hair of him for about, oh, since December, in terms of anything hard." Rumsfeld said...
RECENT PHOTOS SHOW A SICKLY BIN LADEN:

 


Early photo



Dec 7, 2001 tape
Very ill from Kidney Dialysis

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« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2008, 10:56:41 pm »



2001 was spent in American hospitals,
Till his death in mid-December


Translation of Funeral Article in Egyptian Paper:
al-Wafd, Wednesday, December 26, 2001 Vol 15 No 4633
News of Bin Laden's Death
and Funeral 10 days ago

Islamabad -
A prominent official in the Afghan Taleban movement announced yesterday the death of Osama bin Laden, the chief of al-Qa'da organization, stating that binLaden suffered serious complications in the lungs and died a natural and quiet death. The official, who asked to remain anonymous, stated to The Observer of Pakistan that he had himself attended the funeral of bin Laden and saw his face prior to burial in Tora Bora 10 days ago. He mentioned that 30 of al-Qa'da fighters attended the burial as well as members of his family and some friends from the Taleban. In the farewell ceremony to his final rest guns were fired in the air. The official stated that it is difficult to pinpoint the burial location of bin Laden because according to the Wahhabi tradition no mark is left by the grave. He stressed that it is unlikely that the American forces would ever uncover any traces of bin Laden.
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« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2008, 10:58:52 pm »

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/breaking_3.html
http://216.26.163.62/2002/me_terrorism_10_16.html

Israeli intelligence: Bin Laden is dead, heir has been chosen


SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Wednesday, October 16, 2002
TEL AVIV  Osama Bin Laden appears to be dead but his colleagues have
decided that Al Qaida and its insurgency campaign against the United
States will continue, Israeli intelligence sources said.

Al Qaida terrorists have launched a new campaign of economic warfare and
are targeting shipping in the Middle East, according to U.S. intelligence
officials.

The Israeli sources said Israel and the United States assess that Bin
Laden probably died in the U.S. military campaign in Afghanistan in
December. They said the emergence of new messages by Bin Laden are
probably fabrications, Middle East Newsline reported.

But Bin Laden's heir has been chosen and his colleagues have decided to
resume Al Qaida's offensive against the United States and Western allies,
the sources said.

They said the organization regards the United States as the main target
followed by Israel.
"In this case, it doesn't matter whether Bin Laden is alive or not," a
senior Israeli intelligence source said. "The organization goes on with
help from key people."

The sources said Al Qaida has already determined Bin Laden's heir. They
said the heir has not been identified, but is probably not Bin Laden's
son, Saad. Saad is said to be in his 20s and ranked within the top 20
members of Al Qaida.

Earlier this week, Bin Laden's deputy, Ayman Zawahiri, was said to have
released a videotape in which he claims that the Al Qaida leader is alive
and functioning. Bin Laden's voice was not heard on the tape.

A senior Bush administration economic official said last week that another
major Al Qaida attack anywhere in the world could have devastating
economic repercussions.

The FBI warned last week that Al Qaida may be preparing for a major
attack. The warning followed the release of an audio tape featuring the
voice of Zawahiri.

Bombings in Bali aimed at tourists, an attack on U.S. soldiers training in
Kuwait and the bombing of a French tanker in Yemen are signs of the new
campaign, Geostrategy-Direct.com reported in its Oct. 22 edition.

The first attack was carried out last week with the Al Qaida terrorist
attack on the French tanker Limburg, a 157,000-ton ultra large crude oil
carrier, that was bombed as it picked up a pilot before mooring at the
Yemeni port of al Shihr.

One crew member was killed and others were injured in the blast.

According to intelligence officials, a small boat approached at high speed
from the starboard side of the ship and detonated a large explosive
device.

A week earlier, the Office of Naval Intelligence issued an alert to ships
in the Middle East to be alert for Al Qaida terrorist attacks.


http://www.welfarestate.com/binladen/funeral/israel-intel.txt
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« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2008, 11:00:13 pm »

http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/02/01/gen.bergen.cnna/index.html

Peter Bergen: Bin Laden has aged 'enormously'


February 1, 2002 Posted: 1:24 PM EST (1824 GMT)

(CNN) -- On Thursday night, CNN aired
parts of an interview with Osama bin
Laden that the Arabic-language
television network Al-Jazeera recorded
in late October.

BERGEN: He's actually quite similar. I mean, in terms of his demeanor and his
voice -- these kinds of things are quite similar. The big difference is that he's aged
enormously between '97 and October of last year.

This is a man who was clearly not well. I mean, as you see from these pictures
here, he's really, by December he's looking pretty terrible. But by December, of
course, that tape that was aired then, he's barely moving the left side of his body.
So he's clearly got diabetes. He has low blood pressure. He's got a wound in his
foot. He's apparently got dialysis ... for kidney problems.

I mean, this is a man who has a number of health problems, apart from the fact
that anybody running around the Afghan mountains is not going to be in great
shape.

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« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2008, 11:00:54 pm »

http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/south/01/19/gen.musharraf.binladen.1.19/index.html

Musharraf: bin Laden likely dead


EXCERPTS:

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (CNN) --Pakistan's president says he thinks
Osama bin Laden is most likely dead because the
suspected terrorist has been unable to get treatment for
his kidney disease.

"I think now, frankly, he is dead for the reason he is a ...
kidney patient," Gen. Pervez Musharraf said on Friday in an
interview with CNN.

Musharraf said Pakistan knew bin Laden took two dialysis
machines into Afghanistan. "One was specifically for his own
personal use," he said.

"I don't know if he has been getting all that treatment in
Afghanistan now. And the photographs that have been shown
of him on television show him extremely weak. ... I would
give the first priority that he is dead and the second priority
that he is alive somewhere in Afghanistan."

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« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2008, 11:05:30 pm »

There is a discrepancy.  Bhutto states that Sheik Omar killed him while the earlier articles seem to suggest he died of kidney failure, back in 2001. 
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« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2008, 11:10:51 pm »

Wednesday, January 2, 2008
Benazir Bhutto: Omar Sheikh Murdered Osama bin-Laden
In a November 2, 2007 interview, less than two months before she would be assassinated, Benazir Bhutto was asked by reporter David Frost of Al-Jazeera English about a letter that she had sent to Pakistani dictator Pervez Musharraf. The letter outlined who she believed should be investigated in the event of her assassination. While giving her answer, she listed as one of the suspects a "key figure in security... a former military officer in Pakistan" who had dealings with, among others, "Omar Sheikh, the man who murdered Osama bin-Laden."

Jump to 1:37 to hear this portion of the interview:
(I should probably tell you that this is not the original video I posted. That one is "no longer available". Since I have this sneaky feeling that this is not the last time this post's video will somehow become unavailable, please let me know if it doesn't work and I'll refresh it.)


If that name, Omar Shieikh, sounds familiar it's because he was a key figure in some huge stories between 1999 and 2002. His full name is Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh, and multiple variations of those names are used to describe him including Omar Sheikh and Saeed Sheikh. Here's how you may have heard of him:



In 1999, Indian Airlines flight 814 was hijacked by Pakistani nationals. In return for the hostages, the hijackers demanded India release the leaders of the ISI (the Pakistani version of the CIA) funded group Harkat-ul-Mujahideen. One of these leaders was Omar Sheikh.
In the months before 9/11, using the alias "Mustafa Mohammad Ahmed", Omar Sheikh transferred at least $100,000 to Mohammad Atta, one of the 9/11 hijackers.

Omar Sheikh was sentenced to death in 2002 for the murder of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl.


Having trouble wrapping your head around this? I was too, so I did a little research. First, let's see if this revelation that Omar Sheikh murdered Osama bin-Laden is even possible. I guess the first question would be 'Is Osama bin-Laden dead'?

There are a few reports from around the world that I found that indicated that Osama bin-Laden had died. One report from a French newspaper said that Osama bin-Laden died on August 23, 2006 of typhoid fever. However, if Benazir Bhutto is to be taken at her word, this report cannot be true because Omar Sheikh has been in Pakistani police custody since February 2002 for the murder of Daniel Pearl.

However, some other reports, which seem to make some sense, indicated that Osama bin-Laden died in December 2001. An Egyptian newspaper called al-Wafd published the following article (Volume 15 No 4633) on December 26th, 2001:


A prominent official in the Afghan Taleban movement announced yesterday the death of Osama bin Laden, the chief of al-Qa'da organization, stating that binLaden suffered serious complications in the lungs and died a natural and quiet death. The official, who asked to remain anonymous, stated to The Observer of Pakistan that he had himself attended the funeral of bin Laden and saw his face prior to burial in Tora Bora 10 days ago. He mentioned that 30 of al-Qa'da fighters attended the burial as well as members of his family and some friends from the Taleban. In the farewell ceremony to his final rest guns were fired in the air. The official stated that it is difficult to pinpoint the burial location of bin Laden because according to the Wahhabi tradition no mark is left by the grave. He stressed that it is unlikely that the American forces would ever uncover any traces of bin Laden.
If the funeral took place 10 days before this article was published in al-Wafd and The Observer of Pakistan, this would put the death of Osama bin-Laden around the 16th or 17th of December 2001. Israeli intelligence officials also told reporters in October 2002 that they and United States officials believe that Osama bin-Laden had been killed in December 2001.

If you look at a timeline of events involving Osama bin-Laden, ignoring the questionable videotapes, there is a noticeable shift in the type of communication Osama bin-Laden has with the world and the rhetoric used by Bush Administration and Pakistani officials in regards to the threat Osama bin-Laden poses starting in the middle of December 2001. Some highlights:

September 15, 2001 – President Bush says of bin-Laden, “If he thinks he can hide and run from the United States and our allies, he will be sorely mistaken.”
September 17, 2001 – President Bush says, “I want justice. And there’s an old poster out West, I recall, that says, ‘Wanted: Dead or Alive.’”

November 7, 2001 - Pakistani reporter Hamid Mir interviews Osama bin-Laden in person.

November 16, 2001 - Battle of Tora Bora begins.

November 25, 2001 - Osama bin-Laden gives his last known public speech to his followers in Milawa, Afghanistan, a village located on the route from Tora Bora to the Pakistani border.
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November 28, 2001 - Osama bin-Laden reportedly escapes Tora Bora

December 15, 2001 - Osama bin-Laden's voice is reportedly intercepted for the last time communicating with his fighters in Tora Bora via his shortwave radio


December 17, 2001 - US Intelligence and Pentagon officials admit they have lost Osama bin-Laden

December 17, 2001 - United States declares victory at Tora Bora

December 26, 2001 - Article about Osama bin-Laden's funeral is published in Pakistan and Egypt. The funeral allegedly takes place about 10 days earlier. The article is also discussed by Fox News.

December 28, 2001 – President Bush says, “Our objective is more than bin-Laden”

January 18, 2002 – Pakistani dictator Pervez Musharraf tells CNN that he believes Osama bin-Laden to be dead

January 27, 2002 - Vice President Dick Cheney says that Osama bin-Laden "isn't that big of a threat. Bin Laden connected to this worldwide organization of terror is a threat."

January 27, 2002 – White House Chief of Staff Andy Card tells CNN, “"I do not know for a fact that he's alive. I happen to believe he's probably alive… Our overall objective is to defeat terrorism, wherever it is around the world. And so, our objective is not to get Osama bin Laden."

January 29, 2002 – President Bush delivers his first State of the Union address since 9/11. While he labels Iraq, Iran, and North Korea the “axis of evil”, he fails to mention Osama bin-Laden at all.

March 13, 2002 – President Bush says, “Deep in my heart I know the man is on the run, if he's alive at all… He’s a person who’s now been marginalized.… I just don’t spend that much time on him.… I truly am not that concerned about him.”

April 4, 2002 - Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Richard Myers says, "The goal has never been to get bin-Laden"

October 14, 2002 – President Bush says, “I don’t know whether bin-Laden is alive or dead”

October 16, 2002 – Middle East Newsline reports that Israeli Intelligence officials confirmed that Israel and the United States believe Osama bin-Laden was killed in mid-December 2001 during the Tora Bora bombing campaign.

This timeline, with Osama bin-Laden's death allegedly occurring in the middle of December 2001, makes it possible that Omar Sheikh could have committed the murder. From October 2001 through January 19, 2002, Omar Sheikh was living openly in his home in Lahore, Pakistan. His positions as leader of Harkat-ul-Mujahideen (a Taliban and Osama bin-Laden partner) and ISI agent (the source of funds for Harkat-ul-Mujahideen) would also have given him means for access to Osama bin-Laden.

While it is disturbing that Benazir Bhutto may have revealed that our government has been (and continues to be) lying to us about Osama The Big Bad Wolf, the revelation that his supposed killer was Omar Sheikh raises even more questions than the obvious 'Who the hell is making and releasing all those Osama bin-Laden videos and for what purpose?'.


http://littlecountrylost.blogspot.com/2008/01/benazir-bhutto-omar-shiekh-murdered.html

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