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The following are excerpts from this cool website, which means to get us ready for 2012:

http://survive2012.com/pole_shift_5.php

Some evidence of a recent poleshift

Regardless of what caused the shift, the poles would be relocated and climates everywhere would change dramatically. Lands of ice would melt and cause incredible floods. The new poles would freeze over, with the intense cold instantly killing life. Deserts would gain moisture; rainforests would dry up. Flora and fauna would need to adapt to the new conditions or become extinct.

If all the regions of our planet previously had different climates, and the transition had been violent, then we would expect some evidence to have been found. Here is a brief sample:

Frozen Muck

In Alaska thick frozen deposits of soil, boulder, plant and animal exist, commonly known as “muck”. Prof. Frank C. Hibben of the University of New Mexico described these deposits:

“In many places, Alaskan muck is packed with animal bones and debris in trainload lots. Bones of mammoths, mastodons, several kind of bison, horses, wolves, bears and lions tell a story of a faunal population… within this frozen mass lie the twisted parts of animals and trees intermingled with lenses of ice and layers of peat and mosses. It looks as though in the midst of some cataclysmic catastrophe of ten thousand years ago the whole Alaskan world of living animals and plants was suddenly frozen in mid-motion like a grim charade…twisted and torn trees are piled in splintered masses … at least four considerable layers of volcanic ash may be traced in these deposits, although they are extremely warped and distorted”[14]

This suggests that although volcanoes were erupting, other forces were required to dismember these animals – with mighty floods and hurricanes being the most likely.

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« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2008, 03:33:31 am »

Rancho La Brea tar pits

These pits in the heart of Los Angeles are one of the richest sources of fossils discovered to date. More than 565 species all somehow got stuck in the tar (asphalt to be precise) over tens of thousands of years, fossilising all the time. Well, that’s what the experts at the George C. Page Museum would have us believe, but they fail to explain the incredible density of animals that “got stuck” there. During the first University of California excavations in 1906, they found a “bed of bones” which contained over seven hundred sabre-toothed tiger skulls. These combined with wolf skulls averaged twenty per cubic yard.[15] Almost more bones than tar. They are not the bones of animals that merely got stuck and waited to die. They are “broken, mashed, contorted and mixed in a most heterogeneous mass”[16], just like in the muck of Alaska. And we mustn’t overlook the fossilised birds that have been dug up, 100,000 of them, including over 138 species, 19 of which are extinct. The George C. Page Museum suggests that the 3,000 birds that are predators and scavengers may have been attempting to feed on other trapped animals, when they themselves got stuck. As sensible as this idea sounds, it fails to explain the presence of the further 97,000 birds that were non-carnivorous. Or three species of fish!

At the end of the last ice age (circa 10,000 BC) many North American species became extinct, including: mammoths, camels, Pre-Columbian horses, ground sloths, peccaries, antelopes, elephants, rhinoceroses, giant armadillos, tapirs, sabre-toothed tigers and giant bison. All of these animals are relatively large. Did they all become trapped in pits of asphalt? Was it the warmer weather that killed them? If so, could they not have shifted north?

Or were they wiped out by a terrible catastrophe?

Frozen Mammoths

"Fossil bones are astonishingly abundant in frozen ground of Alaska, but articulated
  • bones are scarce, and complete skeletons, except for rodents that died in their burrows, are almost unknown … the dispersal of the bones is as striking as their abundance and indicates general destruction of soft parts prior to burial."[17]

Meanwhile in Siberia, mammoths were being wiped out in a similar manner. Massive graveyards of their remains have been mined for ivory tusks. It has been estimated that more than half a million tons of mammoth tusks were buried along Siberia’s Arctic coastline[18], which equates to roughly five million mammoths. Several dozen frozen mammoth carcasses have been found with the flesh still intact. They died suddenly. In their stomachs can be found undigested vegetation, including grass, bluebells, wild beans and buttercups[19] – food typically available in the summer. Scientists examining them have concluded that three of the mammoths died of asphyxiation. The cause of death of the others has not been determined.

Regardless of cause, they froze within days of dying, and when unfrozen the flesh has been fresh enough to feed to dogs. With the previous pole positioned at Hudson Bay (see below), the North Siberian coastline would have had the same latitude as Japan does today, well outside of the Arctic Circle. But when the poles shifted, the climate would have rapidly changed, from a summer savannah where mammoths munched on buttercups, to a frozen wasteland.

But wait a minute; weren’t the woolly mammoths suited to living in a cold climate? They are described as woolly due to their hairy coat, but this is only hair, greaseless hair. To help protect them from the cold, all of today’s Arctic mammals have glands that make their hair oily to retain warmth – the mammoths had no such gland. Although thicker, a mammoth’s hair is the same as that of elephants, and they live in the tropical regions. Many animals found in equatorial jungles also have thick hair, the tiger being one such example. Anyone still unconvinced could consider this - bones of tigers, rhinoceroses and antelope were found alongside the mammoths, and these are obviously not Arctic creatures.
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« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2008, 03:08:33 pm »

Hi Valerie ,

The La Brea tar pits are one of the greatest unsolved mysteries in my opinion...

Do you have any ideas on how so many animal remains could have ended up in the tar ?

I do suspect a similar mechanism as the Alaskan muck deposits and maybe the reason for the large number of animals at La Brea is due to the 'stickiness' of the tar. I mean , I think the tar accumulated bones over a large area but then the tar got funneled in to a small area, ie.the tar pits.

There must have been a massive geological movement as the link suggests.

So I think it's clear that the animals could not have accumulated in the tar while the tar was in it's current location.

Let me know if that makes any sense or not  Lips sealed
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« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2008, 06:29:20 pm »

Hi Valerie,

"But wait a minute; weren’t the woolly mammoths suited to living in a cold climate? They are described as woolly due to their hairy coat, but this is only hair, greaseless hair. To help protect them from the cold, all of today’s Arctic mammals have glands that make their hair oily to retain warmth – the mammoths had no such gland. Although thicker, a mammoth’s hair is the same as that of elephants, and they live in the tropical regions. Many animals found in equatorial jungles also have thick hair, the tiger being one such example. Anyone still unconvinced could consider this - bones of tigers, rhinoceroses and antelope were found alongside the mammoths, and these are obviously not Arctic creatures."


Bingo!!!


I have been researching anything that is related to the Arctic region and i think that they (Arctic creatures) might have been violently taken away (trees too) by huge mouvements of water under special extremely antagonistic thermal conditions (very hot and very cold). Velikovsky was always underlying that a catastrophic "mise en scene" took place very recently, but nobody seems to care...

this link might not have important data, but it clearly show how ignorant we are regarding fossil fuel origin:

http://news-service.stanford.edu/pr/94/940804Arc4170.html

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« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2008, 09:12:49 am »

As I thought the Woolly Mammouth's HAIR was to protect him from the HEAT mister.  The Ice Bear just happened to have a fur-Coat, but the Seals have short Hair and a Fatlayer against the COLD, besides it it cold at night in the Deserts too, that's whay Arab bedouins wear  Turbans lager than a HAT.

ABOUT your " Pole-Shift" MARIO,

Dr. V. has insinuated that in 1075 and 855 the Moon Twice struck earth in 1075 the Earth craked and all the Waters Sampled in one Place the ( New-)Oceans !  the Second time however the earth must have TIPPO TOPPLED in 855 bc.
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« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2008, 12:51:35 am »

Is there evidence ? 

Well if pole shifts really happened then all the relevant data from the geological record IS the evidence but maybe it's just not being interpreted correctly.

Personally ,I think by far the best 'evidence' and 'interpretations' are to be found in the Charles Hapgoods 'Path of the Pole'.

If that book doesn't convince you of 'pole shifts' then nothing will .
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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2008, 08:28:07 am »

Hi Valerie ,

The La Brea tar pits are one of the greatest unsolved mysteries in my opinion...

Do you have any ideas on how so many animal remains could have ended up in the tar ?

I do suspect a similar mechanism as the Alaskan muck deposits and maybe the reason for the large number of animals at La Brea is due to the 'stickiness' of the tar. I mean , I think the tar accumulated bones over a large area but then the tar got funneled in to a small area, ie.the tar pits.

There must have been a massive geological movement as the link suggests.

So I think it's clear that the animals could not have accumulated in the tar while the tar was in it's current location.

Let me know if that makes any sense or not  Lips sealed
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« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2008, 01:04:58 pm »

Grab a globe and find the southern coast of Nigeria.  On the opposite side is Kiribati in the Pacific Ocean.  If the North Pole’s previous position was at Hudson Bay, then these two places are roughly the fulcrum points of the last pole shift.  Place a finger at each position and see how you can swivel the North Pole to where Hudson Bay is today.  This “line of most movement” continues down through the United States and along the west coast of South America, across Antarctica, the Indian Ocean, SouthEast Asia, China and Siberia.  All points along this line would have shifted 30 degrees in latitude.  The two fulcrum points are the only two spots on the globe that didn’t change latitude.  The closer to the fulcrum, the less the change.  Closer to the “line of most movement” equals more change.

The extinctions of 10,000 years ago mostly occurred along the “line of most movement”, along with major geology upheavals, such as the rising of the Andes mountain range.  I suggest that during global cataclysms, at locations along the “line of most movement”, there is a correlation between the size of animals and their extinction.

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« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2008, 11:05:54 am »

WE think that the World Sea or World Ocean used to be vertical
 and thus it was the present Atlantic but that is a fallacy it should be the present Atlantic
BUT if the Poles have moved so has the Position of the World Sea too
 but WE are digressing about Poleshift forgetting the former Position of the World Sea !

If the World Sea/ Ocean was horizontal earlier the Nile would have been horizontal too.

I think that after the Globe shifted 90# degrees the former horizontal Nile
 and World Sea became vertical
That's maybe why HERODOTUS drew a horizontal Nile in Morocco
not withstanding that the " POLES HAD SHIFTED " ALREADY !
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