the Knights Templar, the Crusades & the Holy Grail (Original Version)

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I see the connection, Incredulous.

Do you believe that the Mason Order derived from the Knights Templar?

What secrets do you think both might have been hiding..?
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once again, i defer.

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I'm thinking there might well be some Freemasons heres. Doubt we have any still in the order of the Knights Templar, though.

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Knights Templar
in the Grail Legend

If you are interested in Christian legends, such as the Holy Grail or the Shroud of Turin, one group from the past will invariably be mentioned; the Knights Templar. During the Crusades, the Templars made for themselves a legacy of great achievement and discovery. Although they were ultimately disbanded, tried as heretics, and tortured, they claimed to be the most devout and flawless knights to take part in the Crusades to the Holy Land. The Templars were called heretics due to accounts of their beliefs, such as the accusation that they worshipped a severed head as sacred, specifically that of the devil Baphomet. This head, however, was probably the image of Christ's face on a cloth, variously called the Mandilion, the Veil of St. Veronica, or the Shroud of Turin.

One very important question regarding the Grail Legend is, "Where did the story begin?" Although sources for the legend range from Celtic to Oriental, the classical version of the story began in the time of the Crusades. One of the first mentions of the Grail was in 1204 in the chronicles of a French monk named Helinandus. He stated the Grail was the cup used by Christ at the Last Supper. The more well known texts begin with "Perceval", by the French cleric and poet Chretien de Troyes, born about 1135 while the Crusades still held Jerusalem. He was patronized by Countess Mary of Champagne, daughter of King Louis VII and Eleanor of Aquitaine. They lived in a kingdom of courtly love and chivalry, much like that outlined in the Arthurian tales. Mary's husband, Count Henry, died one week after his return from a trip to the Holy Land.

Another Grail author, Wolfram von Eschenbach, stated that Chretien derived the story of the Grail from a provincial cleric named Kyot, probably Guyot de Provins, a supporter of the Templars.


Legendary Templar Grave
"Wolfram's authority, Kyot or Guyot de Provins, was said to have lived in Jerusalem and at the court of Frederick Barbarossa, as well as being an initiate of the Templar mysteries..." *

In several Grail romances, including "Parzival" by Eschenbach, the knights of the Grail are identified, directly or indirectly, as the Templars, wearing white surcoats with red crosses. Eschenbach portrayed the Grail as being a sacred stone, like the Philosopher's Stone; more of a Gnostic or Muslim view of the legend.

Not coincidentally, the power and acclaim of the Templars gained them a place in the legend of the Holy Grail and other relics.

"The Templars were also named as the keepers of the Grail in the anonymous romance "Perlesvaus", but now they were crusaders against pagan Islam. The Grail was the chalice of Christ's blood, not a mystic stone, which might also signify "vas Hermetis" o r the Philosopher's Stone of the alchemists, capable of transmuting all to spiritual harmony. There was no peace or compromise with Muslim chivalry or faith in the "Perlesvaus". Its French author claimed that it was based on a Latin book written by a monk of Glastonbury; but its detailed accounts of weapons and armour and military strategy, as well as its praise of the Knights of the Grail protecting their sacred secret in their mantles embroidered with red crosses, suggested that the writer was a member of the Templar Order. The Grail was described as the Eucharistic chalice of the Last Supper brought over to Britain by Joseph of Arimathea; but that was its final and fifth form as seen by King Arthur after attending a sacrament given by hermits. The blee ding lance was also the lance of Longinus, which pierced Christ's side on the Cross and was rediscovered by the Crusaders at Antioch. Also visible was the bloody sword that had cut off the head of St. John the Baptist, revered by the monastic knights." *

One's immediate instinct is, as is usually the case, that the group with the money and power control the writing of history. However, there is evidence which may promote the idea of the Templars being closely linked to the Grail and the other relics. T o examine this link, it is necessary to understand the importance of a city conquered by the Crusaders; Constantinople, today called Istanbul, Turkey.

"What was certainly true was that Constantinople was held by the Crusaders to possess more holy relics than the rest of the Christian world. By a long and elaborate process of international bribes, saintly King Louis the Ninth of France arranged for th e Byzantine Crown of Thorns in its sealed casket to be redeemed from Venice and to be enshrined in Paris within the miracle of the building of the Sainte Chapelle. Even when the Treasury of the basilica of San Marco was gutted by fire in 1231, the most ho ly of the looted relics were providentially spared by the flames." *

This is not difficult to believe. History states that the rulers of this ancient city scoured the known world for Christian artifacts, not the least of which was said to be the Holy Rood, or the true cross of Christ. In Scotland, the Templars, specific ally the St. Clairs, were the traditional guardians of holy relics such as a portion of the True Cross, a sacred stone, and several sacred apocryphal scrolls which are said to be hidden somewhere inside Rosslyn Chapel, built by the St. Clair family.

"Rosslyn Chapel is the Third Day of Creation in stone. It is a rebuilding of the Temple of Solomon carved within its luxuriant friezes of plants and leaves and flowers. It was also built as a Chapel of the Grail with the Knights of the Grail buried in its vaults. In my quest to decipher this secret, I had to search for what the Grail was meant to be before I could discover it at Rosslyn. Its myth also derives from the time of the Crusades." *

A particularly important link between Rosslyn Chapel and the Grail legend turned out to be a small, obscure tombstone, almost hidden in a dark corner of the Chapel.

"In the case of the chalice on the tombstone of Sir William de St. Clair at Rosslyn, the cup encloses an octagonal rosy cross with the flower signifying Christ's blood in the centre. It is one of the earliest representations of that symbol, held to be part of the Gnostic revelations or secret Gospels known to the Knights of the Order of the Temple of Solomon [The Templars] and later to the Brotherhood of the Rosy Cross, which considered the heart of Jesus to be the temple where the life of the world dw elt as well as a rose and a cup. It also suggests a connection between the Templars and the Cathars, before their destruction in the Albigensian Crusade. The Cathars were also Gnostics, who were much influenced by the troubadour Courst of the Langue d'Oc, particularly by the seminal knightly romance epic, the "Roman de la Rose", and the later Grail romances. In these, the Templars riding with their red cross were the keepers of the secret of the rose within the chalice. The Grail on the St. Clair tombston e also explains why the Grail is still held to be within the Apprentice Pillar in Rosslyn Chapel, a pillar built especially to enclose it. If Templar relics did reach Rosslyn, a communion cup or chalice within it might have been called the Grail, and left with the St. Clairs for security. The present Knights Templar of Scotland possess a jeweled communion cup of the Middle Ages, which may descend from the Templar treasure carried to the Firth of Forth. And as the guardians of the Holy Rood, the St. Clairs might well have been thought worthy to guard a Holy Grail." *

So, what is the point of this treatise on the Knights Templar and Rosslyn Chapel? My point is this. IF one suspends their immediate disbelief, and imagines that the Grail might exist, the means by which the legend came down to us is via the exploits of the Knights Templar. Rosslyn Chapel in Lothian, Scotland was built by the St. Clair family based on the sacred geometry of the Templars, such as the 8-pointed Maltese type cross. Beneath Rosslyn Chapel are buried several Templar Knights. Rosslyn Chapel i s filled with mysterious and symbolic carvings which are said to detail where the secret Templar treasure is hidden. Inside the Apprentice Pillar, there is also said to be a metal chalice; possibly the Grail. Although this is unlikely, Rosslyn was the sit e of heavy Templar activity, and the home of the Templar St. Clair family who were guardians of holy relics. If the Grail existed, it may have come there at some point, even if it isn't there now. But no matter what lies under or in Rosslyn Chapel, it is a shrine both to God, and to the endless quest, started a thousand years ago, to find the Holy Grail.

* Quotes taken from "The Sword and The Grail" by Andrew Sinclair, (a book I HIGHLY recommend!)

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What Lies Beneath Rosslyn Chapel?

It has long been speculated that the chapel was designed to hide something of great importance - a treasure or sacred object. There are legends of treasure attached to Rosslyn Castle - the Theatrum Scotiae of 1693 states that 'a great treasure, amounting to some millions, lies buried in the vaults.' Some believe that it is the treasure of the Templars that Philip IV of France failed to seize when he suppressed the Order in 1307. Others, however, believe that the Templar wealth became that of the St Clairs, and was used to finance, among many other things, the building of Rosslyn Chapel, as well as Prince Henry's voyage to America. If the secret of Rosslyn is connected with the Templars, it is more likely to be some artefact, relic or document that was important to them.

The Tombs of the Lords of Rosslyn

It is known that the chief members of the St Clair family are buried in vaults beneath the chapel. This was part of the purpose in building it. Sir William St Clair brought the bodies of his illustrious ancestors, including Prince Henry the Navigator, to be reinterred beneath the chapel.

It is recorded that 'three Earls or Princes of Orkney and nine Barons of Rosslyn' are buried there. There were only three St Clair Princes of Orkney - Henry the Navigator, his son (also Henry) and William, founder of the chapel. But where their tombs are in unknown.

Sir Walter Scott wrote that:

There are twenty of Rosslyn's barons bold
Lie buried within that proud Chapelle
('Lay of the Last Minstrel', 1805)

A stone on the north side of the chapel bears the engraving of a knight in armour, and this is believed to cover one of the graves. It is not known which, although it has been proposed that it is either Alexander Sutherland of Dunbeath (the chapel-builder's father-in-law) or the Sir William St Clair who was killed while taking Robert Bruce's heart to the Holy Land. (It is unlikely that, as some have suggested, that it is the tomb of the chapel-builder himself, as the coat of arms on the knight's shield is incorrect.)

The vaults are thought to extend beneath the full length of the chapel, between the two rows of columns. Until Sir William St Clair, who died at the Battle of Dunbar in 1650, they were all interred in full armour.

A record of 1693 says that the Lords of Rosslyn 'lie in a vault so dry that their bodies have been found entire after four-score years, and as fresh as when they were buried'.

Father Hay says that when his step-father, Sir James St Clair, was buried in the chapel in the late 19th century, the body of Sir William St Clair (founder of the chapel) was found in full armour, and that his body 'seemed to be entire at the opening of the cave, but when they came to touch his body it fell into dust.' The last person to be buried in the vaults was Sir William St Clair in 1778, the last of the male line. This Sir William was the one who had given up the St Clairs' rights as hereditary Grand Master of Freemasonry in Scotland, but had been elected as first Grand Master of the Grand Lodge of Scotland, and so was buried with full Masonic honours. After this the vault was sealed up.

There is a legend - made the subject of a poem by Sir Walter Scott - that the chapel glows as if on fire at the death of a member of the St Clair family.

Given the strange mysteries connected with the lords of St Clair, it is possible that the vaults contain artefacts that would finally shed some light on them - perhaps some kind of tangible proof of Prince Henry's voyage to America, or of the connections with the Knights Templar. Or perhaps there are valuable books and manuscripts from Sir William St Clair's unique lost library.

But other theories have it that something of far greater importance is hidden within the chapel, either beneath it, or behind that walls of the crypt, or even sealed within the Apprentice Pillar.

The Holy Rood of Scotland

John Dowson, Assistant Convener of Dumfries and Galloway Council, argues that the building hides a priceless relic, the Holy Rood of Scotland. This is a piece of what is supposedly the 'True Cross' on which Jesus was crucified, which was found by the Empress Helena (mother of Constantine) in the 4th century. The Holy Rood was brought to Scotland by the Saxon Princess Margaret when she came to marry Malcolm III in 1086, becoming one of the major relics of the kingdom of Scotland. Margaret was accompanied on her journey by William de St Clair, for which he was rewarded with the lands around Rosslyn.

The Holy Rood was twice captured by the English - first by Edward I then again in 1336 - but both times returned to Scotland. The second time was in the middle of the 15th century, at around the time of the building of Rosslyn Chapel. Since then it has disappeared. There is evidence that various objects were taken from Holyroodhouse in Edinburgh in advance of an English attack in 1544, and given to the St Clairs of Rosslyn for safekeeping.

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The Genealogie of the Saintclaires of Rosslyn

http://www.rosslyntemplars.org.uk/genealogie.htm

Murky History of Quirky 'Da Vinci Code' Chapel
By Heather Whipps
Special to LiveScience
posted: 28 September 2005
09:43 am ET



Dan Brown's best selling novel "The Da Vinci Code" has done more to promote tourism at some of Europe's oldest historical hot spots than any slick PR campaign ever could.

From Westminster Abbey to the Louvre, visitors have been lining up in droves to tour locations featured in the controversial work since it was first published in 2003.

With Ron Howard's cinematic adaptation of "The Da Vinci Code" filming near Edinburgh, the destination of choice for fans of the novel is now Rosslyn Chapel, where the story reaches its pivotal climax. The real mysteries may be as interesting as the fictional accounts.

In the book, the tiny chapel near the Scottish capital was a safe haven where the Knight's Templar once hid the Holy Grail. In reality, Rosslyn is no longer a hidden historical wonder. According to Director Stuart Beattie, Rosslyn Chapel expects to welcome more than 100,000 visitors this year, up from 68,000 in 2004 and 9,500 just ten years ago.

While Rosslyn is clearly reaping the financial benefits of Brown's work, for the ₤6 price of admission, "Da Vinci Code" fans eager to explore the setting up close will learn there is more to the chapel's history than what's weaved into the storyline.

Rosslyn Chapel was founded in 1446 by Sir William St. Clair, a Prince of Orkney and one of many in a line of St. Clairs with ties to Scottish Freemasonry and, as Brown suggests, Templar lore. Employing Europe's best masons, he had the 34-by-68-foot structure built with meticulous stone detailing, the chapel eventually becoming a kind of homage to the craft. Nearly every inch of Rosslyn is covered in markers of a fascinating history barely touched on in the book.

The more interesting historical oddities present in the stonework include an archway allegedly depicting rows of North American maize. With construction on the chapel occurring nearly fifty years prior to Columbus' discovery of America, some Rosslyn authorities point to this as evidence that a member of the St. Clair family may have traveled to the New World in the early 1400s.

In Rosslyn's south aisle, visitors will also spot the carving of an angel holding a heart, widely believed to represent that of Robert the Bruce (of "Braveheart" fame). Having fought alongside the future King of Scotland during the 14th Century wars of Scottish independence, St. Clair ancestors were chosen to carry the Bruce's heart to Jerusalem after his death in battle.

While there is more to Rosslyn Chapel than Brown's speculations, for now it seems content on passively riding the wave of its newfound popularity. Without showing outright support for the book's claims and the touchy religious questions posed by Brown, opening its doors to filming (while Westminster Abbey, for example, would not) shows that Rosslyn is willing, at least, to acknowledge public fascination in the subject.

After the excitement of the "The Da Vinci Code" era fades, Beattie hopes Rosslyn "will still be an attractive destination to those who wonder at its purpose and try to define its carvings

http://www.livescience.com/history/050928_rosslyn_chapel.html
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The last article mentioned an angel holding Robert The Bruce's heart. Let us expand on that:

MODERN-DAY KNIGHTS TEMPLAR

IN THE HOLY LAND



PART I

RITUAL KILLING OF THE DIVINE KING



The assassination mystery unraveled by Barry Chamish's online book, Who Murdered Yitzhak Rabin, links it to the modern Knights Templar. This is no surprise to those who are aware of the designs which the modern Freemasons have on the Holy Land, i.e., to seize the Temple Mount and recreate Jerusalem as a Masonic city from which to rule the world. To appreciate the enormous political ambition and power of modern Freemasonry, you will want to read Barry's update on the Rabin assassination. It seems that the coroner who presided over Yitzhak Rabin's autopsy also conducted another autopsy on one Alisdair Rosslyn Sinclair -- a blue blood Knight Templar who would have been a front runner in the Merovingian campaign for election as King of Jerusalem.


ALISDAIR SINCLAIR



Alisdair Rosslyn Sinclair, whose surname is derived from Saint-Claire, is a descendant of one of the original Knights Templar who captured the city of Jerusalem during the first Crusade of 1099. According to Masonic authors of The Second Messiah:

"The [original Knights Templar] of whom little is known are believed to have been representatives of the ruling families of Champagne, Anjou, Gisors and Flanders. The leader of the Templars was Hugues de Payen, a middle-ranking noble-man in Champagne who married Catherine St Clair, the niece of his crusading partner Baron Henri St Clair of Roslin, in 1101." [Christopher Knight and Robert Lomas, The Second Messiah, Element Books, Inc., 1998, p. 74]

The Sinclairs are recognized as "hereditary grand masters of Scottish Masonry" and rank high among the "sacred" Merovingian families deemed worthy to assume the throne of Jerusalem. These deluded power elites base their fabricated claim on the blasphemy that Jesus Christ sired children, whose descendants intermarried with the bloodlines of the thrones of Europe, infusing them with the holy blood of Christ.

"There are at least a dozen families in Britain and Europe today--with numerous collateral branches who are of Merovingian lineage. These include the houses of Hapsburg-Lorraine (present titular dukes of Lorraine and kings of Jerusalem), Plantard, Luxembourg, Montpezat, Montesquiou, and various others. According to the 'Prieure documents,' the Sinclair family in Britain is also allied to the bloodline as are various branches of the Stuarts. And the Devonshire family, among others, would seem to have been privy to the secret. All of these houses could presumably claim a pedigree from Jesus; and if one man, at some point in the future, is to be put forward as a new priest-king, we do not know who he is." [Michael Baigent, Richard Leigh, Henry Lincoln, Holy Blood Holy Grail, pp. 409-410]

The cloning of Dolly the sheep in 1996 -- which Gnostics considered to be the "Molecular Logos" -- occurred at Geron Biomed, the commercial arm of the Roslin Institute in a village in Scotland, which is also the site of a very famous Knights Templar shrine, the Rosslyn Chapel. The village of Roslin, site of the sheep cloning experiment, is also near Rosslyn Castle, which was the home of the St Clairs [Sinclairs] who funded the building of Rosslyn Chapel around 1450. For more information on Rosslyn, please read our report on The First Human Embryo Cloned.

The Grand Master of the Prieuré de Sion from 1984 until at least 1988, and probably longer, was Pierre Plantard de Saint-Claire. Pierre Plantard de Saint-Claire's son, Thomas, is considered the most likely candidate in the Merovingian lineage to ascend the throne of Jerusalem as world ruler. (See: The Merovingian Dynasty: Identity of the False Christ]

The importance of the Sinclair family is evident in The Labyrinth of the Grail, a synopsis of which shows the Sinclair's historic and esoteric leadership of the Merovingian cult. In our view, there is a great probability that the Antichrist will come from this bloodline.

Politically speaking, Alisdair Sinclair may have been eliminated to make way for Thomas Plantard de Saint-Clair as the Merovingian Christ. However, the rationale behind the bizarre removal of the heart of Alisdair would seem to be related to the Templar superstition. Another theory comes from an interesting study in pre-Christian superstition which is being revisited upon civilized society through the most outrageous acts of barbarity:

Secret Societies and Psychological Warfare

"Sir James Frazer writing in The Golden Bough: A Study in Magic and Religion, explains that when the 'divine king' is murdered by one who is himself stronger or craftier, the powers of 'divinity' which were the king's are 'Sympathetically' and 'Contagiously' transferred from the vanquished to the victor."

The highly irregular circumstances surrounding of the demise of one of the Sinclair pedigree bears the earmarks of ritual murder. We will now take flight into the irrational world of the Knights Templar for a precedent which may present clues as to why. . .

ROBERT THE BRUCE

In The Temple and The Lodge, by Michael Baigent and Richard Leigh, we read of the strange request of Knight Templar and descendant of the Kings of Scotland, Robert the Bruce that, upon his death, his heart be removed and taken to Jerusalem to be buried in the Knights Templar Church of the Holy Sepulchre. Robert the Bruce's heart was transported by none other than Grand Master of the Scottish Templars, Sir William Sinclair, and a few other knights who never made it to Jerusalem. In Spain, Robert the Bruce's heart was thrown into a battle against the Moors and saved the day, but William Sinclair and most of the other knights died.

In 1329, Bruce died, to be succeeded, as he had arranged, by his grandson, Robert II, the first of the Stuart dynasty. Before his death, he had expressed the wish that his heart be removed, placed in a casket, taken to Jerusalem and buried in the Church of the Holy Sepulchre. In 1330, therefore, Sir James Douglas, Sir William Sinclair, Sir William Keith and at least two other knights embarked for the Holy Land. . . [Michael Baigent and Richard Leigh, The Temple & The Lodge, Arcade Pub., 1989, p. 39]

We find in The Hiram Key an explanation for removing Bruce's heart to Jerusalem:

"Before dying [Robert the Bruce] had taken a vow to go to Jerusalem and fight the Saracen and as a mark of respect his embalmed heart was taken by Sir William St Clair and Sir James Douglas on a last crusade to Jerusalem, but unfortunately they were killed in battle in Andalusia en route. Bruce's heart never reached the Holy City and was returned to be buried in Melrose Abbey whilst Sir William was buried at Rosslyn." [Christopher Knight and Robert Lomas, The Hiram Key, Element Books, 1996, pp. 300-01]

The Knights Templars had occupied Jerusalem until 1291, when the Holy Land fell to the Saracens. Following the dissolution of the Knights Templar in 1312 and death of their Grand Master, Jacques de Molay, in 1314, many fugitive knights fled to Scotland, which was not under Papal control and where they were welcomed by the St Clair family. It was during this period that Robert the Bruce rose to prominence as the central figure in Scotland's struggle for independence from England's domination and restoration of the Celtic religion. According to The Temple and The Lodge and other Masonic literature, Robert the Bruce was well-connected to the sacred Merovingian bloodline:

". . . Scotland, under the aegis of the Dalraida king, Kenneth MacAlpin, became a unified Celtic kingdom. Around 850, Kenneth was installed at Scone, as monarch of all Scotland. . .Under Kenneth MacAlpin's descendant, David I, the feudal Kingdom of Scotland finally emerged in 1124. . .David himself was thoroughly Celtic, the son of the Celtic king, Malcolm III. . .Among King David's entourage was a Norman knight, Robert de Brus. . .Although the Robert de Brus of King David's time was of Norman (and possibly Flemish) descent, his great grandson married David's great-granddaughter, the niece of the Celtic kings Malcolm IV and William I. The Robert Bruce who was later to figure so prominently in Scottish history could thus claim blood descent from the ancient Celtic royal house, and eventually back to Kenneth MacAlpin of the Dalraida." [The Temple & The Lodge, pp. 18-20]

It seems that by 1300, the Scots could not agree on a ruler and so King Edward I of England was invited to arbitrate among the warring claimants to the throne. Edward appointed John Balliol, the grandfather of Robert Bruce, also known as 'the Competitor,' and then annexed Scotland to Great Britain. The Scots rebelled but were defeated by Edward who exiled Balliol and proceeded to dismantle the Celtic institutions.

". . .Edward embarked on a systematic campaign to eradicate all vestiges of political and religious, of the old Celtic kingdom. The Stone of Scone, most archaic and sacred of Celtic talismans, was accorded special attention. At Edward's behest, the inscription on it was erased and the stone itself removed from Scone and brought to London. The great seal of Scotland was smashed and coffers of royal records were confiscated. Edward appointed himself, in effect, an ad hoc defender of the faith -- the archetypal Christian king, promulgating the rule of Rome. To bolster this image, it was profitable to emphasise the pagan aspects of the old Celtic kingdom, which were portrayed as heretical, if not pagan and satanic. By disseminating rumours of sorcery and necromancy, Edward was able to show moral and theological justification for his crusade to annex Scotland." [The Temple & The Lodge, p. 26]

Just a few pages earlier, Baigent and Leigh sheepishly admitted that the Celtic religion which Robert the Bruce sought to restore "may even have included ritual human sacrifice." [p. 19] The Scottish rebellion against England was led by William Wallace, hero of the contemporary movie Braveheart. The Temple and The Lodge describes the ascent of Robert the Bruce to power via ritual human sacrifice:

"It was against this turbulent background that the figure of Robert Bruce suddenly emerged, fomenting rebellion in the south. . .Wallace was knighted by a prominent Scottish earl - possibly Bruce himself - and in 1298 was elected sole Guardian of the country. . . Following his defeat at Falkirk, Wallace was forced to resign as Guardian, but this did not terminate the revolt. In the autumn of 1298, the rebels appointed John Comyn and Robert Bruce to preside as joint Guardians and continue the struggle. They, however, soon fell to squabbling among themselves, and the friction between them . . . deflected them from concerted action against the British. . .

". . . Wallace was dead, and Comyn firmly under the English thumb. But in March 1302, a year before Wallace's capture, Bruce's father had died, leaving Bruce with a direct claim to the throne. Three months later, in June, he had concluded a secret agreement with the Bishop of Lamberton . . . It is now generally accepted that the agreement involved plans for an independent Celtic Scotland, over which Bruce, supported by Lamberton, would preside as monarch. Before any such project could be implemented, however, something had to be done about John Comyn.

"The Comyn family, which included the earldoms of Buchan and Monteith, was an old one, and could match the Bruces in power and prestige. . . On 10 February 1306, at the church of the Grey Friars in Dumfries, Bruce, with his own hand, murdered his adversary. Comyn was stabbed with a dagger and left to bleed to death on the church's stone floor. According to several accounts, he did not die immediately and was carried to safety by the monks, who sought to minister to his wounds. Bruce, hearing of this, returned to the church, dragged him back to the altar, and there slaughtered him. . .

"There are aspects of Comyn's murder that cannot be explained entirely by the betrayal of a pact, or by the long-standing antipathy between Bruce and himself. . . .it appears to have been carefully premeditated, perhaps even rehearsed . . . Nor is it possible to ignore the setting of the murder. Churches, after all, were deemed to be sacred ground. . . it bears the unmistakable stamp of ritual killing -- an almost ceremonial killing of one candidate for a throne by another, on consecrated ground, in accordance with archaic pagan tradition. Nobody at the time could have been unaware of the powerful symbolism inherent in Bruce's act -- a symbolism so powerful, indeed, as to transcend the act itself." [The Temple & The Lodge, pp. 26, 28-30]

In 1314, the Battle of Bannockburn was won when a Templar force led by Sir William St Clair came to Bruce's aid and this victory settled the issue of Scottish independence. Scotland remained an independent kingdom for the next 289 years, when King James VI acceded to the throne of England and united the two kingdoms in 1603. In 1320 the Declaration of Arbroath proclaimed the independence of Scotland, insinuating that the Scots were descended from the Israelites previously in bondage in Egypt.

On 6 April 1320, an extraordinary document -- the so-called Declaration of Arbroath -- was issued. It took the form of a letter commissioned and signed by eight earls and thirty-one other nobles, including representatives of the Seton, Sinclair and Graham families. This letter adumbrated the legendary history of the Scots from their alleged origins in Scythia and their conversion there by St Andrew. It described Robert Bruce as their deliverer and hailed him (with biblical comparisons traditionally dear to the Templars) as 'a second Maccabaeus or Joshua'. . . [p. 38]

Other Scottish nobility and signatories of the Declaration of Arbroath include Clans Leslie, Stewart, Monteith, Robertson and Bruce. Please read our report on The British-Israel Conspiracy for information on modern descendants of the "sacred" families who currently promote the British-Israel deception.

In 1322, Edward II launched his last, rather half-hearted, expedition against Scotland. It came to nothing, and Bruce retaliated with incursions into Yorkshire. In 1323, the two countries concluded what was supposed to be a thirteen-year truce, which lasted only for four. In the mean time, Bruce had become embroiled in a new squabble with the Papacy, then in the throes of its own schism, the so-called 'Avignon Captivity'. For some time, Edward of England had longed to rid the Scottish Church of its powerful nationalist bishops -- prelates such as Lamberton of St Andrews, Wishart of Glasgow and William Sinclair of Dunkeld (brother of Sir Henry Sinclair of Rosslin, signatory of the Arbroath Declaration). To this end, the English king had badgered successive popes not to consecrate any new native-born bishops into the Scottish Church. In the Avignon-based Pope John XXII he found a sympathetic ear. Bruce, however, aligned himself with his own bishops in defying the Pontiff's wishes and in 1318 he was again excommunicated, along with James Douglas and the Earl of Moray. A year later, the Pope demanded that the bishops of St Andrews, Dunkeld, Aberdeen and Moray appear before him to explain themselves. They ignored him and, in June 1320, were also excommunicated. Throughout the course of this row, the Pope had persisted in refusing to recognise Bruce as king, pointedly referring to him only as 'ruler of the Kingdom of Scotland'. It was not until 1324 that Pope John XXII relented and Bruce was finally acknowledged monarch in the Church's eyes.

It is noteworthy that Pope John XXIII was the Roman pontiff who, on June 24, 1961 would lift the ban of the Catholic Church on Freemasonry. June 24 is the feast of St John the Baptist whom Masons consider to be the messiah rather than Jesus Christ. Knight and Lomas state regarding this feast and the liberation of Scotland cum Masonic religion: "A point of Masonic interest concerning the Battle of Bannockburn is that it was fought on the day with the longest daylight in the year -- a day still celebrated by all Freemasons as the Feast of St John the Baptist." [The Hiram Key, p. 299]

The Temple & The Lodge describes the transport of Robert the Bruce's heart to Jerusalem for burial in the Church of the Holy Sepulchre. [Note: Baigent et al do err in stating that Stewart = Stuart. See: The Merovingian Dynasty: Michael the Counterfeit Archangel]

In 1329, Bruce died, to be succeeded, as he had arranged, by his grandson, Robert II, the first of the Stuart dynasty. Before his death, he had expressed the wish that his heart be removed, placed in a casket, taken to Jerusalem and buried in the Church of the Holy Sepulchre. In 1330, therefore, Sir James Douglas, Sir William Sinclair, Sir William Keith and at least two other knights embarked for the Holy Land, Douglas carrying Bruce's heart in a silver casket hung around his neck. Their itinerary took them through Spain, where they made the acquaintance of King Alfonso XI of Castile and Leon, and accompanied him on his campaign against the Moors of Granada. On 25 March 1330, at the battle of Tebas de Ardales, the Scots, riding in the vanguard, were surrounded. According to the fourteenth-century chronicle, Douglas removed from his neck the casket containing Bruce's heart and hurled it into the attacking host, crying:

Brave heart, that ever foremost led,
Forward! as thou wast wont.
And I Shall follow thee, or else shall die!

Whether Douglas, in the heat of battle, had either time or inclination to compose his thoughts into verse is, one suspects, questionable. Having hurled Bruce's heart at the foe, however, he and his fellow Scots did proceed to follow it, charging headlong into their adversaries. All of them died, with the exception of Sir William Keith, who had broken his arm prior to the battle and so did not participate in it. He is said to have retrieved the heart from the field, miraculously intact in its casket, and to have brought it back with him to Scotland. It was buried in Melrose Abbey, under the east window of the chancel. Early in the nineteenth century, Bruce's grave at Dunfermline Abbey was opened. According to popular traditions prevalent in the age of Sir Walter Scott, he was found with his leg-bones carefully crossed immediately under his skull. In fact, this was not so; there was, apparently, nothing unusual about the corpse. But the traditions are indicative. It is clear that someone had a vested interest in linking Bruce with the Masonic skull-and-crossbones.


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MODERN-DAY KNIGHTS TEMPLAR

IN THE HOLY LAND



In 1099, the original Knights Templar established their Jerusalem headquarters in the Church of the Holy Sepulchre. According to Holy Blood, Holy Grail, "The knights and monks who occupied the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, also installed by Godfroi [de Bouillon], were formed into an official and duly constituted 'order' -- the Order of the Holy Sepulchre." [p.112] Two centuries later, by 1291, the Western crusaders were thrust out of the Holy Land by the Saracens and the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem was lost to the Roman Empire.

The Templars, who had absorbed the esoteric Kabbalism of the Mideast and brought it to Europe, fell into disfavor with the Holy Roman Empire and, in 1309, Pope Clement V and King Philippe IV of France dissolved the Order. Grand Master, Jacques de Molay, was executed in 1314 and the knights of the Order of the Temple were either executed or fled Europe for safety. In Scotland, a Templar refuge, Robert the Bruce made a vow to go to Jerusalem and reclaim that city from the Saracens. However "In 1329, Bruce died. . . Before his death, he had expressed the wish that his heart be removed, placed in a casket, taken to Jerusalem and buried in the Church of the Holy Sepulchre" the original Templar headquarters. [Temple & Lodge, p.39]

Robert the Bruce's heart never reached Jerusalem and was returned to Scotland where it was buried in Melrose Abbey. The Templars kept alive his dream to reclaim the Holy Land and it is therefore conceivable that the heart of Alisdair Sinclair was a substitute for that of Robert the Bruce. Burial in the Church of the Holy Sepulchre would symbolize claim of the Sinclairs, as the head of the Merovingian dynasty (aka, the royal bloodline of Jesus Christ), to be the rightful heirs of the throne of Jerusalem.

Traitors and Carpetbaggers in the Promised Land, by Barry Chamish, includes a chapter on the Masonic control of Jerusalem which is reproduced on our website. Masons Busted in Tel Aviv mentions the real reason for the Masonic presence: "The Masons covet the Temple Mount, site of Solomon's Temple, because their mythology has the organization being established by one Hiram, the mason who supposedly built the Temple three thousand ears ago."

Barry's reference here is to the Legend of Hiram Abiff, a Masonic version of the Egyptian legend of Isis and Osiris which, as the theme of the initiation ceremony of a Master Mason (3º), dramatizes the demise of the ancient pagan gods and their mystery religion (due to the spread of Christianity) and also their future resurrection.

In his expose on Yitzhak Rabin's autopsy, Barry Chamish also mentioned that Alisdair Sinclair's death seemed to be in some way connected with "Britain's early and deep interest in Zionism, their reverance for Chaim Weizmann, the Balfour Declaration, The British-Israel Society, the Round Table policies of Cecil Rhodes and Lord Milner and the like." Today, the British Freemasons plan to rebuild the Temple at Jerusalem, ostensibly to reinstitute the Old Testament sacrificial system. Their feigned patronage will deceive the Jews for a time, however their ultimate goal is to reestablish the ancient mystery religion. Mike Noe has provided some fascinating information relevant to the interest and current activity of the British Freemasons in Jerusalem, particularly in the holy sites:

http://watch.pair.com/templar.html
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really?
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Actually not really, I was just too tired to think of a decent comment to make on Danielle's material.

Any opinion on the idea of modern day Templars, Incredulous, as in, do they still exist?
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If they do, I'm betting they're mighty rich!!

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jason - whether or not you might term them modern incantations, or vestiges, they may be found in places where you would expect.

that's the way it appears to me. but why take the word of such an odd fellow such as myself? perhaps a trip to the masonic temple in alexandria would be most helpful? wouldn't you enjoy talking to those who may or may not know for sure? but who know something ... such as courtesy and the way to conduct oneself in the light?

funny, though not a member myself, they know me when i enter. and that my friend, says something about family. food for thought.

it's all a matter of degree.
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By some reports, the history of the Masons stretches back even before the Templars. Masons were said to have erected the Temple of Solomon.

Merry Christmas, Jason, Incredulous, Brooke & Sarah.

No matter where we go will we ever find out the whole truth? No. There are too many powers trying to make certain they keep the truth from us.
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... and too many who need not know the truth.

invalidation of certain core paradigms is less than desirable to the mental health and wellbeing of the masses.

happy holidays to you too.
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I should also like to wish my friends Jason, Incredulous, Brooke & Danielle, a very Merry Christmas: sincere comrades all in the quest for the truth of the Knights Templar.

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