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« Reply #195 on: January 12, 2008, 02:06:42 pm »

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If you cannot prove there ever was a Jesus,you can't prove Mary M., You can't prove any of it.


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 I suppose you know one of the demons that Mary Magdalene was release from was Lilith
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The Da Vinci Code” is fiction but the author makes assertions about history and presents them as widely accepted facts, introduced by such phrases as “historians say” and “scholars understand.”

Olson lists several claims made by Brown:

Jesus was a mere man, and the earliest Christians didn’t believe he was divine;

Christianity is a despicable sham;

all claims to objective religious truth are to be avoided.

These assertions demand a non-fiction response from Christian believers.

Now some readers might say that the faithful are merely reacting out of fear and anger toward a book that challenges their faith.

That’s why it is helpful to listen to critics writing from a literary perspective, without a religious slant. One such critic is Laura Miller, in The New York Times Book Review (“The Da Vinci Con,” February 22, 2004, p. 23): “ . . .

what seems increasingly clear is that ‘“The Da Vinci Code”,’ like

‘Holy Blood, Holy Grail,’ is based on a notorious hoax.”

Miller says that much of the material about Mary Magdalen and the Priory of Sion depends on fabricated documents planted in the Bibliotheque Nationale in Paris by one Pierre Plantard,

“an inveterate rascal with a criminal record for fraud and affiliation with

"wartime anti-Semitic" and right-wing groups.”

OH I'LL BE DARN.

Miller concludes: “The only thing more powerful than a worldwide conspiracy, it seems, is our desire to believe in one

Here are some of the most important falsehoods in “The Da Vinci Code”, and alongside are the matching truths that, as Twain said, are now “putting their boots on.”

DVC: “ . . . almost everything our fathers taught us about Christ is false!”

TRUTH: Ditto for everything Dan Brown “teaches” about Christ! Brown contends that, until the Council of Nicaea (325 A.D.), “Jesus was viewed by his followers as a mortal prophet . . . a great and powerful man, but a man nonetheless. Not the Son of God.” According to Brown, the emperor Constantine made Jesus divine in the fourth century.

However, in St. Paul’s Letter to the Philippians (c. 55 A.D.) Jesus is portrayed as God’s Son and worshipped as Lord. In St. John’s Gospel, written almost two hundred years before Constantine was born, Thomas the Apostle sees the risen Jesus Christ and exclaims. “My Lord and my God!” Brown conveniently does not mention Docetism, a heresy circulating in the first century that claimed Jesus Christ was only God, and not human as well.

DVC: “Jesus as a married man makes infinitely more sense than our standard Biblical view of Jesus as a bachelor.” [Here’s why] “Because Jesus was a Jew, and the social decorum during that time virtually forbid a Jewish man to be unmarried.” “ . . . according to Jewish custom celibacy was condemned.” “If Jesus was not married at least one of the Bible’s gospels would have mentioned it and offered some explanation for his unnatural state of bachelorhood.”

TRUTH: Jesus was unmarried, as were the prophet Jeremiah, John the Baptist, the Apostle Paul, and members of the Essene community. The words of Jesus from the Cross, entrusting his mother to the care of John the Apostle, suggest the truth of this assertion.

Brown stresses the importance of the social decorum at that time. If “social decorum” had been a high priority for Jesus he wouldn’t have healed people on the Sabbath, talked to the Samaritan woman at the well, knocked over the moneychangers’ tables in the Temple, or socialized often with public sinners.

As for a gospel explanation for Jesus’s “unnatural state,” here is Jesus’s teaching on celibacy, from Matthew’s Gospel: “Some are incapable of marriage because they are born so; some, because they were made so by others; some because they have renounced marriage for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Whoever can accept this ought to accept it.” (Mt. 19:12)

DVC: “The Bible as we know it today was collated by the pagan Roman emperor Constantine the Great.”

TRUTH: By 150 A.D. (175 years before Constantine) Christian writers were listing the four gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, and Paul’s letters as the most reliable sources of information about the life of Jesus and the faith of the apostles. Also, as Laura Miller observes in the New York Times, Brown tries to have it both ways in “The Da Vinci Code”: “Sources—such as the New Testament—are qualified as ‘questionable’ and derivative when they contradict the conspiracy theory, then microscopically scrutinized for inconsistencies that might support it.”

DVC: According to Brown “Peter’s party” among the early Christians slandered and demonized Mary Magdalen and, through her, all women.

TRUTH: From the beginning, the Church has honored Magdalen for her faithfulness at the foot of the Cross and at the tomb. Christian writers described her as “the apostle to the apostles” because she brought them the good news of Christ’s resurrection. The Catholic Church celebrates the feast of St. Mary Magdalen on July 22nd each year, and many churches are dedicated to her as their patron. In the Diocese of Salt Lake City the Cathedral is named for St. Mary Magdalen, and she is the heavenly patron of the entire diocese. That’s a strange sort of demonizing.

DVC: “ . . . every faith in the world is based on fabrication. That is the definition of faith—acceptance of that which we imagine to be true, that which we cannot prove.”

TRUTH: That’s an unbeliever’s definition of faith. How does a believer define faith? Perhaps as “a human response to God,” or, “a free assent to the whole truth that God has revealed.” A fair-minded person would let a socialist give his definition of capitalism, but he or she would let the capitalist give his definition as well. Believers and unbelievers should be treated the same way.


DVC: “Virtually all the elements of Catholic ritual—the miter, the altar, the doxology and communion, the act of ‘God-eating,’ were taken directly from earlier pagan mystery religions.”

TRUTH: Oh, dear. It’s such a long-established fact that the roots of Catholic ritual are in Jewish worship, which is not surprising, inasmuch as all the first Christians were Jews, not former pagans. The Temple in Jerusalem had altars; the doxology is rooted in Psalms 8, 66 and 150; communion had its roots in the Jewish Passover, celebrated by Jesus and twelve other Jews at the Last Supper.

DVC: “Originally Christianity honored the Jewish Sabbath of Saturday, but Constantine [4th century] shifted it to coincide with the pagan’s veneration day of the sun. To this day most churchgoers attend services on Sunday morning with no idea that they are there on account of the pagan sun god’s weekly tribute—Sunday.”

TRUTH: Jesus Christ rose from the dead on the first day of the week, a Sunday, so the weekly Eucharist was celebrated from the beginning on “the Lord’s Day,” a Sunday. Here is St. Justin Martyr, writing before 165 A.D.: “We hold our common assembly on the first day of the week, the day on which God put darkness and chaos to flight and created the world, and because on that same day our savior Jesus Christ rose from the dead.”

The names for the days of the week do come from the names of pagan gods such as Woden, Thor, Freia and Saturn. However, someone who goes to Thursday evening Bible study in 2006 is not therefore honoring the god Thor. Incidentally, the only thing Constantine did about this matter, in 321 A.D., was to declare Sunday a day of rest.

DVC: “The Church launched a smear campaign against the pagan gods and goddesses, recasting their divine symbols as evil.”

TRUTH: Well, that’s what monotheistic religions do—they oppose the worship of dozens or hundreds of greater and lesser gods. For example, Jews maligned Moloch, and discouraged the people from sacrificing newborn infants by tossing them into the fiery stove in the belly of the god. It’s hard to cast that divine symbol as anything but evil. Islam also replaced the worship of minor deities in the lands to which it spread.

DVC: “The Church burned at the stake over five million women [as witches].”

TRUTH: Genuine scholars agree that most people executed as witches (20% were men) were put to death between 1500 and 1800 A.D. These historians estimate the total at 40,000, with an upward limit of 50,000. Most of those were poor, ordinary and unpopular citizens, not strong, independent-minded women as described by Brown. Their accusers were usually their fellow citizens, not clergymen. More than half of those accused were acquitted. Some witches were executed by Catholics, some by Protestants, most by governments. Salem, Massachusetts in the seventeenth century, for example, could hardly be described as Catholic-dominated. Several popes condemned the practice of executing witches. Still, it doesn’t seems uncharacteristic of Brown to multiply the total number of victims by 100, and then blame them all on the Catholic Church.


WHY ARE THESE LIES SO EASILY BELIEVED?

Why then are so many people so easily misled? Amy Wellborn suggests that most people know very little about the historical origins of Christianity, so they are “easy targets for a cleverly packaged, sensationalized set of lies.” Carl Olson suggests several traits of postmodern culture that make a book like “The Da Vinci Code” attractive: a relativistic attitude toward truth and religion; a dislike for religious authority; a fondness for conspiracy-based claims; a belief that reality is malleable and can be customized to each person’s wishes.

Adam Gopnik, writing in The New Yorker, takes a more ironic view: “A cultural anthropologist, a hundred years from now, will doubtless find, in the unprecedented success of ‘“The Da Vinci Code”,’ during the time of a supposed religious revival, that, in the Elvis mode, what a lot of Americans mean by spirituality is simply an immense openness to occult superstitions of all kinds.”

IS “THE DA VINCI CODE” ANTI-CATHOLIC?

“I have been educated to enmity toward everything that is Catholic, and sometimes, in consequence of this, I find it much easier to discover Catholic faults than Catholic virtues.” (Mark Twain, Innocents Abroad)

Let’s begin by admitting that anti-Catholicism is as American as, well, Mark Twain. Of course Twain was more honest about himself and everything else than most of us are. The Harvard historian Arthur Schlesinger, Sr., remarked to the American Catholic historian, John Tracy Ellis, “I regard the prejudice against your church as the deepest bias in the history of the American people.” The late Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan, Democrat of New York, used to describe the anti-Catholicism of a few decades ago as the last socially acceptable form of bigotry in the United States. Such witnesses can’t easily be waved aside.

Catholics in this country have even had a Dan Brown-style experience before this present one. In 1836 “The Awful Disclosures of Maria Monk” was first published. It was a sensational success, and stayed in print for many years. One mob even burned down a convent school, partly because of that book. It took the dedicated investigative work of a Protestant newspaper editor, Colonel William Stone, to debunk the book’s lurid portrayal of the decadent goings-on between priests and nuns, and the murder of their infant children. The Colonel did his work very well, but generations of readers continued to buy the book and believe it

Is “The Da Vinci Code” anti-Catholic? Well, sure it is. The book is at least as anti-Catholic as it is anti-Christian. For instance, it’s not only 1.1 billion Catholics who believe Jesus is divine, recite the Nicene Creed and accept the books of the New Testament while rejecting the Gnostic gospels; Protestants—numbering 800 million worldwide—and Orthodox Christians—in excess of 200 million—are mostly guilty of that same Christian behavior, though they get no mention in “The Da Vinci Code”. Instead, it is “the Church” that does those terrible things.

Nevertheless, when we Catholics complain about anti-Catholicism, especially in the entertainment media, it is easy to hear us as whiners and special pleaders. Hence an outside opinion is helpful and enlightening. Slightly over a year ago David Denby, a film critic for The New Yorker, wrote a review of a film titled, of all things, “Constantine.” Denby described the movie as a “religio-satanic horror spectacle,” starring Keanu Reeves. At the showing Denby attended, it was being watched “by rapt adults as well as teenagers.”

After dealing with that particular film, the critic moved on to the difficult, more general topic of how Hollywood deals with matters Catholic. Denby wrote: “Which raises a touchy point. ‘Constantine’ turns Catholic doctrine, ritual and iconography into schlock. God’s warrior wins, but is that enough to justify the tawdry, promiscuous borrowing? Will the trashy exploitation of Catholicism in movies ever end?”

Could any Catholic have asked those questions better? Denby went on to conjure up Jewish and Hindu variations of the frequent Catholic exploitation films: “Imagine a Jewish version of the spectacle—‘Angel,’ starring Vin Diesel, in which God’s messenger stays Abraham’s hand in mid-sacrifice and then earns His approval by lowering himself into cursed pharaonic tombs with tied together prayer shawls. In a Hindu version—‘Vishnu,” with Nicolas Cage—Shiva unleashes his snakes on the outskirts of Poughkeepsie and starts a war between truck drivers and apple pickers.”

Denby knew that the strategy of satire is often to take things over the top to show how ridiculous the situation has become, and he did that very well. In conclusion, however, he made a thoughtful and provocative remark: “Somehow I think these projects might be shelved. Yet terrible movies like . . . .’Constantine’ get made and become enormously popular. I will leave the issue of blasphemy to experts. But maybe some of the audience should wonder if they aren’t doing the Devil’s work by sitting so quietly through movies that turn wonders into garbage.”

“The Da Vinci Code”–the book and probably the film–presents Catholics with one set of problems, and those are best dealt with by knowing the facts of our Church’s faith and its history. A broader challenge is an entertainment establishment that doesn’t know very much about Catholicism, doesn’t like what it thinks it knows, doesn’t want to learn any more, and can’t leave Catholic faith, practice and imagery alone


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Let's look at the trustworthiness of these individuals.


Pierre Athanase Marie Plantard (March 18, 1920 – February 3, 2000) was a French draughtsman, best known for being a pretender to the French throne, and the principal perpetrator of the hoax of the Priory of Sion. This deception later inspired the 1982 pseudohistory book Holy Blood, Holy Grail and the 2003 novel The Da Vinci Code, among others.

He used a fictitious surname, Plantard de Saint-Clair, from 1975 onwards. The surname Saint-Clair was added to his own surname on the basis that this was the family name associated with the area of Gisors, a part of France associated with his hoax.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Plantard

If you can't trust a person with SMALL things , why would you trust them with Bigger facts?

And to Think Brown didn't know the facts about Plantard,would be foolish.

He is a snake, just like all the other snakes with an agenda, destroy Jesus the supernatural son of god, along with the faith of his believers, and put an end to Christianity.

Pierre Plantard was a lifelong charlatan and confidence trickster – his 1937-1954 activities involving confidence trickery, anti-semitic and anti-masonic activities are provided in File Ga P7 which is available for public inspection at the Paris Prefecture of Police, 9 Boulevard du Palais, 75195 Paris (Monsieur Claude Charlot, is the Director of Museum Archives of the Bureau of Associations at the Paris Prefecture of Police, for written enquiries).

References to Pierre Plantard’s criminal convictions are available for public inspection at the Sub-Prefecture of Saint Julien-en-Genevois, 4 Avenue de Geneve, 74164 Saint Julien-en-Genevois, Haute-Savoie (Monsieur Serge Champanhet, is the Secretary General of the Sub-Prefecture, for written enquiries – the letter dated 8 June 1956 by the Mayor of Annemasse to the Sub Prefect contained in File Number KM 94550 which holds the 1956 Priory of Sion Registration Documents must be cited in the written enquiry).

http://priory-of-sion.com/

http://priory-of-sion.com/dvc/newage.html

On a France-Inter radio interview dated 18 February 1982, Pierre Plantard told Jacques Pradel: "The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail is a good book, but one must say that there is a part that owes more to fiction than to fact, especially in the part that deals with the lineage of Jesus. How can you prove a lineage of four centuries from Jesus to the Merovingians? I have never put myself forward as a descendant of Jesus Christ".

The popularity of The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail – a bestseller itself in 1982 – later inspired other authors to jump on the same bandwagon – Laurence Gardner, Margaret Starbird, Timothy Wallace-Murphy, Barbara Thiering and Tracy Twyman to name just a few – all of them having the inability to offer any historical evidence to substantiate their belief in the central theory that is found in The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail.


Their "source material" is usually selective in nature and distorted out of context to promote their various arguments.

For example, these writers always omit the fact that in The Golden Legend by Jacobus Voraigne Mary Magdalene the traveller to Marseilles is

presented as the wife of Saint John.

OH this is a new one......

And in the Gnostic Gospel of Philip,

Mary Magdalene is depicted as the personification of Fallen Wisdom that is barren in nature.

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Plantard desperately longs to make something important of himself, to rise above all the disaffected young men inhaling the bitter, dark Fascist and Socialist brews then percolating in the coffee houses of France.

Beginning in the 1930's, Bernstein says, Plantard's "involvement...with anti-Masonic and anti-Semitic nationalist organizations" leads him to found "an association called The French Union, in 1937, 'to engage in purifying and renewing France.'" ["The French Confection," by Amy D. Bernstein, PhD., in SECRETS OF THE DA VINCI CODE (U.S. NEWS & WORLD REPORT, 2004), here cited as "SDVC", p.79]
http://petragrail.tripod.com/hoax.html

On the other hand, one of his close associates in the sixties coyly hints that Plantard is a genuine descendent of a special 'Israelite' bloodline derived from ancient space aliens [EIUC pp.149-151, 370; SDVC p.80].

OH reaaaaly!?

What many may not realize, however, is that Nazism and the New Age movement had common origins among leading figures in the Theosophical Society of Helena Blavatsky [ASTROLOGY AND THE THIRD REICH by Ellic Howe; THE OCCULT CONSPIRACY by Michael Howard (Destiny, VT, 1989) pp.123-140]. Even more ominous, the Nazis had major allies among Moslem nations and leaders, alliances that continued long after Hitler was defeated [See the opening of THE ODESSA FILE by Frederick Forsythe].

OH REEEEEALLLLY!?

Philosophically, a member of the "National Socialist Workers Party" ('NAZI' Party) would find much in common with the EU's current religious and political outlook. In many ways, the growing anti-Semitism within the EU, its dalliances with Islam, its growing hatred of America, its ever-expanding list of members, its quasi-fascist corporate socialism, and its threatened legislation against the Bible, are all ominous echoes of the Third Reich. Many are now wondering openly about what really happened to the Nazis after the war: Are they and their heirs now secretly influencing the EU and perhaps aspects of the U.S. government? That question is being openly debated in America.


Just as I suspected.

Plantard and company spend much of the 1960's forging and planting documents in French libraries [SDVC p.77]. But they have a problem. By now they realize that the public tends not to trust people convicted of fraud and embezzlement. Plantard desperately needs to find someone else to 'front' for him, preferably some naive media figure who can be conned into ignorantly promoting these forgeries.

In England, a BBC documentary maker named Henry Lincoln takes the bait and begins asking questions about the mysterious 'Priory of Sion' [HBHG pp.23-25]. Lincoln not only thinks the Priory is centuries old, he even convinces two of his friends, Michael Baigent and Richard Leigh, to help him prove it to the world [HBHG p.25]. Together the three pawns are led to the location of one fake document after another, like three blind mice sniffing after pieces of cheese dragged by strings through a maze [HBHG pp.23,31,39, etc...to p.412].

No journalist would want to be caught in such a trap, of course. But the cheese is Jesus supposedly having children by Mary Magdalen, and that is simply too tempting to ignore, especially for men who take delight in discrediting 'fundamentalist' Christianity [HBHG, pp.14-16]. The three mice go scampering around France, as Plantard watches his ruse play out.

OH THIS IS RICH.

But something goes wrong. In the 1970's, one of Plantard's co-conspirators begins to divulge the hoax [Laura Miller, The New York Times Book Review, as quoted in SDVC p.77]. Plantard himself can hardly contain the secret and begins telling friends how he faked the documents [SDVC p.80]. The whole scheme is in danger of collapsing if Lincoln and his buddies catch on. Astonishingly, even though the hoax begins disintegrating in plain sight [SDVC p.80], Lincoln's trio somehow manage to overlook the public collapse of the conspiracy. They go on to publish their own book effectively denoting Plantard as an heir of Jesus and Mary Magdalen [HBHG pp.412-413]. They title it, "THE HOLY BLOOD AND THE HOLY GRAIL" or in America, simply "HOLY BLOOD, HOLY GRAIL" [HBHG p.10].

By this time, it seems, the story is not only too good to be true, it is also too scandalous to be stopped. That is, the desire on the part of some of its advocates to undermine or overthrow 'fundamentalist' Christianity is so irresistible that they go forward with the story even though the whole thing has been exposed as a hoax.

Why tell the public the truth and sidetrack this gravy train? Too many people are getting rich from these fables.

In 1997, the BBC finally admits its unintended role in spreading the hoax and seeks to warn the public [SDVC pp.77,80]. But it is too late. Much of a generation has grown up believing in Planatard's grand delusion. And too many people have been profiting from it.

But the avalanche of books filled with pseudo-history is only beginning. Once it becomes clear that writers can get rich making accusations against Jesus, the Bible, and Christianity, dozens of authors begin grinding out such books, knowing millions of people will buy and read them, not because they are true, but because so many readers want them to be true.

If the non-fiction world has become a fantasy-land, it is nothing compared to the fables spread via fiction.

In 2002, a man named Dan Brown writes a novel, The DaVinci Code [tdVC], based upon the discredited Priory of Sion myth. Although Brown claims to have researched the matter, his book turns out to be riddled with historical errors [SECRETS OF THE CODE ed. by Dan Burstein (CDS Books, 2004); CDC; SDVC].

At this point, no one knows whether Brown knew of the hoax before he began to write or was merely another victim of it. But the outlandish 'historical' accusatons in his books have come under increasing criticism:

To cite a few instances, Brown has one of his characters assert that the Vatican engaged in a Holocaust of gender-cide, burning 5-million women as witches during the Inquisition [tdVC, p.125]. In fact, there is no evidence that even one woman was burned alive as a witch by the Vatican Inquisition [CDC pp.64-67]. The Church could not execute anyone; the matter was in the hands of local civil authority and varied from nation to nation [Encyclopedia Britannica 14th ed. Vol. 4, p. 438. Hereafter: "EB"]. For example, Finland, Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Northern France, Russia, and all of eastern Europe, the Balkans, Africa, the Middle East and Asia had no executions at all under the Inquisitions [The Catholic Encyclopedia (1913 ed.) Vol. VIII, pp.30-37. Hereafter: "CE"].

The Encyclopedia Britannica stated that, when witches were executed, "in practice, the convict was strangled before being burnt" [EB p.438b]. Even wiccan scholars argue that the total number of people condemned was not in the millions, but closer (they claim) to 40,000, men and women both [CDC p.66]. But that's hardly an objective number either.

For one thing, the Inquisition was directed against heresy, not witchcraft[CE pp.26-30a]. It was far more interested in Protestants than in a witch who nevertheless believed in Catholocism. So the estimated 40,000 condemned by the Vatican and Spanish Inquisitions were rarely witches. But when any were, witchcraft was a secondary issue to matters of heresy [CE pp.29-37].

It turns out that not everyone of the supposed 40,000 who were condemned were actually executed; the notorious "burning" sentence of "auto de fe" referred to any decision, not just execution, including release upon public confession and penance, pilgrimage (as a punishment), imprisonment, fine, mitigation of previous sentence, and outright aquittal [CE, pp.31a, 34b, 37b].

Moreover, the accused, even if clearly guilty, was given multiple opportunities to avoid a death sentence [CE pp.34-35]. As a result, execution was rare; local records show from 80-97% of convictions resulting in non-lethal penalties even at the height of the Inquisition [CE pp.30b, 31a, 32-34].

The worst case of a 'blood-thirsty' Inquisitor was a converted Bulgarian Cathar [the Cathars are heroic martyrs in HBHG] who became a Dominican Inquisitor and had 180 persons executed on a single day, May 29, 1239; when the Pope discovered his acts, he was condemned to prison for life [CE p.35a].

So the supposed Holocaust of 5-million women burned alive by the Church never happened. Not even modern wiccan scholars agree with this huge number [CDC pp. 64-67], a fact somone could have discovered in a few minutes on-line years before this book was published [CDC p.67].

This is not to say that local civil authorities never executed any witches, nor burned their bodies in public; they did, and on occassion these civil victims were burned alive [EB p.438]. And the Church certainly did have heretics killed [CE pp.33-37]. But the scattering of hundreds of documented local civil executions is hardly the horrific Vatican-directed holocaust of 5-million women that Brown's book claims.

Equally bogus, of course, is Brown's fictional theme that Leonardo da Vinci was involved in hiding some great secret for the Priory of Sion, for there was no such organization at the time because Pierre Plantard did not invent it until the 1950's [CDC p.112; SDVC pp.77,79-80].

One of Brown's most fabulous contentions is that about 80 Gospels (try to picture this) were deliberately removed from the Bible by the Church in the 4th century [tdVC pp.231,234]. Of course, primitive methods of book-binding in those days could not have bound all these other Gospels [whose length is unknown since they did not exist] into one Bible of the time.

On the other hand, no scholar, not even those who are considered the harshest critics--those of the 'Jesus Seminar'--have ever identified 80 such Gospels, much less said that they were removed from the text of the Bible [Note that barely a dozen 'other' gospels are included in THE COMPLETE GOSPELS by the 'Jesus Seminar,' ed. by Robert J. Miller (Harper, San Francisco, 1994) pp.v-viii, 1-5].

The fact is, not even one single alternative Gospel has ever been found bound into a manuscript of the Bible [NEW TESTAMENT GREEK MANUSCRIPTS: ACTS ed. by Reuben Swanson (William Carey International University Press, Pasadena, 1998) pp.509-513. Hereafter: "NTGM"].

Conversely, not one book of the Bible was found among the texts buried at Nag Hammadi; only Gnostic and pagan writings were in that 'library' [THE NAG HAMMADI LIBRARY ed. James M. Robinson (Harper, San Francicso, 1990) pp.v-xiv, 1-26. Hereafter: "TNHL"]. Only six of these Nag Hammadi texts are even called 'Gospels,' and some of these are either later essays (and hence, not really a 'gospel' at all) or take place mostly after Jesus ascends into heaven [TNHL pp.139-160, 523-527].

Consider the only ancient text to assert physical contact by Jesus with Mary Magdalene: The so-called 'Gospel' of Philip. Scholars admit that not only is this 4th-century manuscript not a 'gospel,' it actually is a late Gnostic catechism or essay that has nothing to do with the Apostle Philip [TNHL pp.139-141]. The oft-cited quotation about Jesus kissing Mary on the "mouth" doesn't exist; "mouth" was added by translators, who in one case later removed it [Compare TNHL, 1978 ed., p.138, with TNHL, 1988 ed., p.148]. The original may just as easily have said "cheek" or "hair."

Kissing Mary would not have upset the Apostles had she been Jesus' wife [1 Cor 9:5], if indeed this late text even records any actual events at all. The text claims the Apostles were jealous, which can hardly refer to the Apostles wanting Jesus to marry them. Nor were the Apostles demanding Jesus have sex with them, or have children by them, or any of the other silly things some modern writers have tried to infer that Jesus was doing with Mary Magdalen in this passage. The prosaic truth, however, is that this text is about the time and attention that Jesus was supposedly devoting to Mary in public, not any supposed private sexual activity, of which the text says nothing [TNHL p.148].

The supposed 'wife' reference is based upon the Gospel of Philip's use of the word "companion," which was possibly derived from the group of women who "accompanied" Jesus and the Apostles, including their mothers. There is no certainty this term means "wife." In any case, some translators place the "companion" text in the preceding passage, which is about Sophia ("Wisdom"), and do not connect it with the Mary Magdalen passage at all [NEW TESTAMENT APOCRYPHA, Vol.1, ed. Wlhelm Schneemelcher, trans. R. McL. Wilson (Westminster, Louisville, 1991) p.194]. The deeper one looks into this 'evidence,' the more it simply evaporates. For more on this, see our 'Gospel of Philip' page.

One of the biggest fables the novel tells is that Constantine ordered the creation of fictitious versions of the Gospels and the removal of the original Gospels [tdVC, p.234]. We know this is false because we have most of the texts of the four Gospels from before and after Constantine, and the changes Brown says were made are not in the texts [NTGM: MT, MK, LK, JN pp.i-xii]. The hard evidence of the ancient manuscripts refutes such accusations [Ibid.; THE NEW TESTAMENT DOCUMENTS: ARE THEY RELIABLE? by F.F. Bruce (Intervarsity, 1960) p.20].

Long before Constantine showed up, pagan critics of Christianity like Lucian, Celsus, and Porphyry knew of only the same four Gospels we now use and tried to show contradictions between them [HOW TO READ CHURCH HISTORY, Vol.1, Jean Comby (Crossroad, NY, 1985) pp.31-33: HRCH]. Imagine the fun they would have had comparing 80 Gospels. Of course, the only thing preventing them from doing this was that the pre-Constantine texts they were using only had Matthew, Mark, Luke and John's Gospels [HRCH p.33]. They were attacking Christian belief in the divinity of Jesus and His resurrection in the second and third centuries [HRCH pp.31-33], which was generations before the Council of Nicea and Constantine.

Several writers have now written entire books filled with similar examples of Brown's errors. Unfortunately, many readers fall for the novel's fictitious veneer of historical research.

Accordingly, Brown has now retreated to the defense that it was only a novel and one should not have to defend the statements of a work of fiction. Unfortunately, Brown makes such statements at the begining of his novels as, "References to all works of art, tombs, tunnels, and architecture in Rome are entirely factual...the brotherhood of the Illuminati is also factual" [ANGELS & DEMONS by Dan Brown (Pocket Books, NY, 2001): A&D]. And, "FACT: The Priory of Sion--a European secret society founded in 1099--is a real organization...All description of artwork, architecture, [and]documents...in this novel are accurate" [SDVC p.81]. He includes all sorts of maps and other "FACT" [his word] as a preface to his 'fiction' [A&D Ibid.]. Yet when caught in various errors about DaVinci's artwork [SDVC p.81] and about documents like the Bible and Gnostic manuscripts [CDC pp.130-170], he says he is just a novelist.

When one examines the actual historical data behind all these bizarre accusations, it is surprising how little support really exists. The critics have gotten away with so much foolishness primarily because the defenders of Christianity usually are as ignorant of the historical evidence as its opponents. "Faith alone" might be valid as a theology, but it is worthless as an apologetic approach. Facts decide these debates, and if Christians want to prevail, they must do their homework and be prepared to give a defense for the faith that they hold [Phil 1:17; 1Pt 3:15].

One of the Christian critiques of TDVC was written by a pair of PhD's, with credits that include Harvard Divinity School and Princeton Theological Seminary [CDC p.10]. Secular credentials in theology do not get much better than theirs. But their book is badly conceived, being structured around a fictional story-line about female college students that distracts from the facts in contention. It just proves that mixing fiction with non-fiction is risky.

Nevertheless, The DaVinci Code has sold tens of millions of copies. Because of these huge sales, Hollywood's liberal elite is salivating at the prospect of making a fortune by savaging the Savior's virginity and the Vatican's sanctity. For many liberals, attacking Christianity is as satisfying as attacking Republicans. For liberals, it's not about theology; it's about politics.

But politics makes strange bedfellows: Can a hoax created by French forgers identified with anti-Semites [SDVC pp.77,79] and condemned in the New York Times [p.76] still be honored by left-coast liberals with impunity?

Of course, Dan Brown's ignorance of history probably extends to Plantard's shady past. We must assume Brown had no idea about the anti-Semitism lurking around the hoax. No doubt he would never have gotten involved with it had he known.

Potentially, Brown will be offering Hollywood a trilogy of novels based on the same characters [SDVC pp.16-19,87]. Tinseltown's calculators are whirring far past $100-million, as eyeballs full of cash visualize future film, video and DVD revenues [SDVC pp.18-18].

The total estimated take for books, movies, videos, DVD's, and tee-shirts... is a staggering ONE BILLION DOLLARS [SDVC pp.18-19].

Brown himself may have already made over $30-million, based on his 15% royalty on an estimated $210-million in hardcover sales [SDVC p.18] for this one book alone. Other books by Brown and by other writers and other movies based on their works would obviously add millions more to the totals.

Pierre Plantard must be pleased. And so must the shadowy men who may have have sponsored his bizarre claims for decades. They may or may not have gotten rich, but they have surely obtained something far more valuable than money:

Power to misinform the minds of millions.

But to what end? What goal has all their plotting aspired to achieve? Whom does this Grail Hoax serve?

At the close of their book, the three authors of Holy Blood, Holy Grail provide a series of chilling clues:

The Priory conspiracy, they insist, "is well-financed" and supported and encouraged by "men in responsible and influential positions [in government, finance, business, and the mass media]..." [HBHG p.412].

There is a global desire, they insist, for a "'priest king' in whom mankind can safely repose its trust" [HBHG p.412].

Popular religious emotions, the authors note, are "a source of immense potential power" that "can be channeled" to serve the conspiracy's goals [HBHG p.412].

Finally, they conclude, the Priory's hidden masters are thereby well-situated to provide "an alternative to existing social and political systems" by offering the world "the advent of Jesus' lineal descendent...a kind of Second Coming" [HBHG pp.412-413].

Unfortunately, Christians are all too familiar with this line of thought: It is a classic argument for the Antichrist.

From where else could so many lies and slanders slither forth? It requires no gift of discernment to sniff out the venomous spirit that lurks behind the fetid veil of Deceit.

ORDERING MAIN SOURCE MATERIALS:

To order the U.S. News & World Report special issue SECRETS OF THE DA VINCI CODE, go to their website: www.usnews.com/special

To order the books U.S. News used as major sources for its special issue--SECRETS OF THE CODE, ed. by Dan Burstein (21 weeks on the New York Times Best Seller List), or his newest book, SECRETS OF ANGELS & DEMONS, with Arne de Keijzer, call the publisher, CDS Books, weekdays: (800) 343-4499. Or order on-line at www.SecretsOfTheCode.com

As of May 16th, 2005, Dan Brown's original book in the 'DaVinci Code' series, ANGELS & DEMONS, is out in paperback on local newsstands and supermarket racks. These and all the other books should be available from your local bookstores

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Guys, I really wish some of you would actually read the Da Vinci Code or Holy Blood, Holy Grail before using up so much energy being hostile towards it. In the first place, both books actually are pretty respectful of Jesus. Neither claims that he didn't exist or even that he wasn't a great or influential man, only that the Catholic Church used his image to further their own masculine, anti-female agenda, which they did. Check your history.

In the second place, despite all the big propaganda campaign agains the book, there are actually only a couple of things that have really been disproven about the Da Vinci Code:

1. Da Vinci as a Grandmaster of the Priory of Sion. The documents that said he was are probably fakes, made by a Frenchman named Pierre Plantard.

2. The modern Priory of Sion itself, which Pierre Plantard claimed was a carryover from the the Order of Sion (a real organization formed way back in 1099, after the First Crusade). It was part of the same documents so it was probably a fake, too.

Neither of which has much to do with the essential premise of Jesus and Mary Magdalene itself, nor the bloodline they were have said to sire.

It actually makes sense for him to have done that. Why not give humanity a descendent to walk among it in every generation, so that each generation could find, in itself, a source for hope and salvation?

What I hear a lot from people is that they feel God has abandoned them. Maybe God hasn't abandoned them, just decided to leas humanity from the point of being a human being(s).

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The Anti-Semitism of the Da Vinci Code

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The key aspect of Dan Brown's novel is a hoax

He says it is fiction, hoping you will believe it is true, without the Priory he would have no book.

why should a Jew care?

Consider that the alleged conspiracy underlying the "biggest cover-up in human history" bears a remarkable resemblance to another phony conspiracy, the famous hoax called

"The Protocols of the Elders of Zion."


authored by Russian monarchist and anti-Semite Mathieu Golovinski in 1898, Protocols tells of a secret society of Jewish elders that works to keep gentiles ignorant of a plot to rule the world through "Darwinism, Marxism and Nietzscheism."

In both conspiracy theories, an ancient world religion turns out to be a massive fraud perpetrated to gain or maintain power.

In Dan Brown's version,

the Priory of Sion (Sion simply means

"Zion" in French)

is the good guys.

They've been waiting for the right moment to reveal the secret about Jesus having children and to introduce the world to the worship of the "Goddess," aka Mary Magdalene.

Meanwhile, the Catholic Church plots to suppress forever the truth about the "sacred feminine." Opus Dei is willing to go to any lengths, including murder, to keep the male church hierarchy in power.

Pierre Plantard (1920-2000), the French monarchist and anti-Semite who gave us the "Priory of Sion," spent much of his life inventing minuscule esoteric organizations intended to "purify" France of the evil influences of modernity -

and of Judaism. In 1940, he wrote of the

"terrible Masonic and Jewish conspiracy" that threatened France.

The Priory of Sion was one group he started.

The point of this occult order was to advance Plantard's claim to be the surviving heir of the ancient Merovingian line of French kings, whose "holy blood" was guarded by the Priory.

The idea that the Merovingians were the descendants of Jesus and Mary Magdalene was added on later.

Besides highlighting the word "Zion" or "Sion," the two conspiracy theories share an understanding of how to deal with ideas you disagree with.

Rather than taking traditional Christian beliefs at face value and arguing against them, Dan Brown portrays the religion itself as resting upon a conscious deception.

That excuses him from having to make arguments at all.

Anti-Semites do the same thing.

Rather than coming out honestly against Darwinism or Marxism, or modernity in general, they concoct a story about Judaism as a lie and a conspiracy.

The Protocols remains a global phenomenon of staggering popularity, especially in the

"Arab world."

Dan Brown never intended to foment bigotry.

Yet to the cause of conspiracy theorizing, he has done a wonderful favor, training his readers in the habits of paranoia and gullibility.

For people committed to finding the truth through

investigation and

argumentation,

that's depressing.

Jews haven't fared well when the culture we live in turns to entertaining fantasies and delusions at the expense of an unfashionable religion.


David Klinghoffer is the author of Why the Jews Rejected Jesus: The Turning Point in Western History.
http://www.jewishexponent.com/article/3262/

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Okay, that one is really reaching. Dan Brown does not try to "strip Jesus of his Jewishness," in fact there is nothing about that at all. Haven't any of the detractors here even read the book?
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OH IT GETS BETTER,

WE are living in strange times..........

“Dan Brown’s not anti-Christian. He’s not anti-anything. I doubt he’s pro-anything, either, except pro-Dan Brown. That book has as much of an agenda as The Complete Idiot’s Guide to Hockey. Dan Brown doesn’t have enough conviction to make a decent agnostic. He grew up a faculty brat in New England, and I don’t think he set foot off campus until he was in his 20s.”

I perked up, and ordered another beer. “You know Dan Brown?”

“I knew him for years. He started out as a joke-book author.” Ted said, dunking a clam-strip in tartar sauce. “Some of the jokes were funny. But he wanted to be a novelist. He kept pestering me about it, so finally I gave him this paperback, Writing the Blockbuster Novel, by Albert Zuckerman. It’s a paint-by-numbers guide on how to write a page-turner. One important part of the formula was: Find a villain your readers can safely hate. A few months later, Dan brought me this manuscript to read—and it followed the formula precisely … as if he’d poured Jello into a mold. In this case, the ‘safe villain’ was the National Security Agency, government spies. It sold pretty well, and he kept on pounding out books—each time with a different ‘safe villain.’ Eventually, he started running out—Communism was gone, the Nazis were all dead…. That pretty much leaves the U.S. government, drug cartels, and the Catholic Church.”

I was taken aback. “Do you mean to say that Dan Brown came up with this theory about the Church just to sell a few lousy books?”

'I gave him this paperback,' Ted explained, 'Writing the Blockbuster Novel...'
Ted chuckled, ruefully. “Thirty million lousy books. I remember when he was working on it. We went to lunch with an editor, with a name like Chaim Rothstein, or Izzy Stein—not exactly an Irishman. Dan started rattling off this conspiracy theory about the Church, then he got really nervous and turned to the editor, almost blushing. ‘Excuse me,’ Dan said to him. ‘You’re not Catholic, are you?’” Ted downed his beer. “That’s how much Dan Brown knows about religion.”

A thought-provoking lunch. It convinced me that admirable efforts such as Amy Welborn’s to refute the assertions woven throughout the turgidly typed pages of The DaVinci Code might just be beside the point. It’s probably not worth protesting this silly, mercenary book—or the boring movie made of it by hack director Richie Cunningham… I mean, Ron Howard. If you know someone gullible enough to take a pulp airport novel as “evidence” that Jesus Christ was not divine—but rather a horn-dog rabbi eager to “hook-up” with a former ****, in order to father a race of bumbling French kings…do you really think the answer is to argue with him? Using, you know, reason? You might just as well pick up the book, smack him on the nose and say “No! Bad! No! Very bad!” That’s likely to be more effective, and a heck of a lot more fun.

Or here’s another idea, which is even more entertaining. It’s a strategy I once used with a friend who was intelligent but emotionally unstable. At a dark time in his life, he got himself sucked into poisonous theories which questioned the Holocaust. Rather than spend time reading the sludge churned out by nostalgic Nazis which he was taking as gospel, I decided to try what I called “ridicule therapy.” When he suggested that the Holocaust had been exaggerated or faked, I said, “You’re so naïve. Do you really think there was a so-called ‘Second World War?’ Another lie foisted on us by you-know-who….”

“But that’s ridiculous,” he insisted.

“Really?” I said, “Or is that just what THEY want you to think?”

As time went on, I had to go further. So I suggested darkly that the Freemasons had been “faking the weather” for the past 30 years. I started referring to the “so-called weatherman” and putting little air-quotes around the word “weather.”

At last, I bought my friend the books of David Ickes, a former British soccer star who “discovered” the fact that the world has been dominated, for the past 10,000 years, by a race of alien lizard men (think Opus Dei, with long darting tongues) who can take on human form. These books are in deadly earnest, and utterly hilarious, and I can’t recommend them highly enough. You can find them here.

It’s probably not worth protesting this silly, mercenary book—or the boring movie made of it...
According to Ickes, keeping up a human appearance is hard work, and if you stare at George Bush, or Queen Elizabeth, long enough, eventually you can get a glimpse of lizard. Or if you want a shortcut, Ickes suggests, there’s a surefire way of seeing the lizard-men: Just drop a little LSD. That’s right, this wonder drug can pierce the veil of reptilian illusion… which is precisely why it’s illegal! (I bet you were wondering about that.)

After a several-months barrage of reptiles, fake weather, Freemasons, and imaginary World Wars, my friend stopped reading Nazi trash. He’s a little embarrassed about the whole episode now, as well he should be. And no, he’s not a fan of The DaVinci Code.

So if you know anyone tempted to believe in Dan Brown’s fairy tales, I suggest you buy him several of David Ickes’s lizard books, and invite him to drop acid with you while watching C-SPAN. If he agrees, you really should warn him about the so-called “weather.”

http://www.godspy.com/reviews/My-Lunch-with-an-Old-Friend-of-Dan-Brown-by-John-Zmirak.cfm

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strip Jesus of his Jewishness

You are not reading between the lines

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Why are people still going on about this?

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Ah, good answer. It's just that I thought people were over it by now.  Cheesy

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“Dan Brown’s not anti-Christian. He’s not anti-anything. I doubt he’s pro-anything, either, except pro-Dan Brown. That book has as much of an agenda as The Complete Idiot’s Guide to Hockey. Dan Brown doesn’t have enough conviction to make a decent agnostic. He grew up a faculty brat in New England, and I don’t think he set foot off campus until he was in his 20s.”
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Kidding, right? The guy writes fiction. If Christians have any beef with the research that was done for it, why aren't they attacking Leigh, Baignet and Lincoln? The novel is based on their work.
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You are not reading between the lines

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