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Hi all, it's long been assumed that there is a Mayan connection to Atlantis. Is there one? The idea behind this topic would be to take a look at the Mayans and see if they have any parallels with what Plato wrote of Alantis.
The Mayans are actually pretty interesting in their own right, though, and also well worth learning about.
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Openings to the Underworld
The ancient Maya may have dug caves with spiritual abandon
Bruce Bower
ENLIGHTENING FINDS. At a Maya cave site in Guatemala, an archaeologist sits on a mound of artifacts that were thrown into a cave after ceremonies were conducted in a plaza near its opening.
A. Cobb
For more than 100 years, archaeologists have hacked through jungles in Mexico and Central America in a quest to uncover pyramids, temples, and other majestic ruins of Maya civilization. James E. Brady of California State University, Los Angeles appreciates the backbreaking work that goes into finding such monumental structures, but he has his sights set lower. As he's probed the ancient Maya's sacred landscape, he's come to realize that this group's belief system invested immense supernatural power in caves and the mountains that surround them.
ENLIGHTENING FINDS. At a Maya cave site in Guatemala, an archaeologist sits on a mound of artifacts that were thrown into a cave after ceremonies were conducted in a plaza near its opening.
A. Cobb
Brady heads up a growing band of researchers who are piecing together this subterranean, spiritual perspective. In their view, a supernatural terrain permeated pre-Columbian religious life from central Mexico through much of Central America and still inspires faith in many native groups.
Caves occupy the focal point of this archaeological project. In initial research, Brady discovered that some of the largest Maya outposts of the Classic period, which lasted from A.D. 200 to A.D. 900, were strategically oriented on and around natural and humanmade caves (SN: 1/24/98, p. 56:
http://www.sciencenews.org/sn_arc98/1_24_98/bob1.htm
). As entryways through sacred, living earth into an underworld of gods, mythical creatures, and ancestors, caves served as spiritual landmarks. In these dim chambers, rulers conducted ceremonies vital to maintaining their power.
New discoveries from before and during the Classic period indicate that caves had considerable spiritual standing in rural as well as urban areas and among common folk as well as rulers. In some locales, caves also show signs of having been visited regularly by religious pilgrims. For example, clues point to cave visits by Maya scribes, the artisans who recorded the royals' exploits.
Cave supply responded to the intense spiritual demands, Brady says. Rather than rely on a limited supply of natural caves, the Maya created new caves in huge numbers. "Artificial caves were constructed according to fairly regular plans and should be considered a formal architectural type of the ancient Maya, just like their ball courts and pyramids," Brady contends. "I suspect there are thousands of these artificial caves that have yet to be discovered."
Artificial caves assume particular prominence in the researchers' latest fieldwork, which Brady and others described this March in Denver at the annual meeting of the Society for American Archaeology.
Maya farmers living far from the madding crowds of major cities excavated their own caves out of dirt or rock apparently to serve as the religious heart of their communities. In some areas, pits that represented caves were dug in houses for family-based rituals, according to Brady.
Moreover, from about 1500 B.C. to A.D. 1400, rural Maya buried their dead in specially designated rock shelters and caves, often dug out of hills or mountains by the sweat of many brows. Among the Classic Maya and their non-Maya contemporaries in central Mexico, a tradition of cave burials may have prompted the construction of pyramids, as symbols of sacred mountains, encasing deceased royalty in cavelike tombs.
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Seven caves of creation
Around 1,000 years ago in central Mexico, the Chichimec people founded a town known as Acatzingo Viejo. In the center of the site, settlers excavated seven small caves out of a steep limestone slope. This cave array represented Chicomoztoc, seven mythical caverns from which Chichimec ancestors were believed to have first emerged, says Manuel Aguilar of Cal State, Los Angeles.
The group of caves also put a spiritual stamp of approval on Acatzingo Viejo and affirmed the legitimacy of its new rulers, Aguilar proposes.
He and his coworkers found stone altars, ceramic incense burners, and other evidence of past ritual activity in the six surviving caves at the Mexican site. Local residents told the researchers that the seventh cave had recently been destroyed to make room for a new road.
The caves lie just below the remains of a ceremonial plaza that includes a small pyramid. Other central-Mexican sites pair artificial caves with pyramids, Aguilar notes. For example, there's an artificial cave beneath the Pyramid of the Sun at Teotihuacan, where a separate civilization thrived at around the time of the Maya's Classic period.
This pyramid contains stone drains that may have channeled rainwater into the chamber to intensify its connection to the spiritual underworld. Some archaeologists suspect that the drains simply collected water for a well. However, their impractical positioning directly under a pyramid betrays their spiritual significance, Aguilar argues.
Spanish documents from the 16th century and scientists' interviews of the area's current inhabitants reveal a longstanding regional belief that water originates in mountains and issues out of caves. Native groups in Mexico and Central America have long regarded caves with water sources as symbols of "the generative womb of the Earth" that gave birth to humanity, Aguilar says.
An intricate replication of a water-bearing cave has been discovered at Muklebal Tzul, a 1,100-year-old Maya site in a mountainous region of southern Belize. In 1999, a team led by Keith M. Prufer of Southern Illinois University in Carbondale noticed a spot next to the settlement's ceremonial center where large amounts of earth had been cleared to create a flat expanse.
On closer inspection, they uncovered what they regard as an artificial cave that descends beneath that area. The structure consists of a narrow, 50-foot-long diagonal tunnel leading down to an open area with a 7-gallon, plaster-lined basin for collecting water. An underground spring supplied water that fell into the basin from a small opening in the tunnel's side, creating an artificial waterfall. The small quantity of water yielded by such a major construction project argues against its use as a well, Prufer says.
"[This project] was intended to reproduce a water-bearing cave on a miniature scale, allowing the residents of the site to center their community over a feature with mythic and sacred qualities," Prufer holds.
Artificial caves had a domestic side as well, according to Brady. In the southern lowlands of Guatemala and Honduras, where natural caves are scarce, ancient Maya houses frequently contain large earthen pits known as chultuns. Separate chambers built into the sides of chultuns were big enough for a person to crawl into, and many include wall niches in which pottery and other items were placed.
Although chultuns have attracted relatively little systematic research, the ancient Maya probably regarded them as household caves in which to conduct rituals, Brady asserts. Hundreds of such chultuns dot the residential landscape of major Classic-era sites such as Tikal in Guatemala.
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Nearer to the gods
Contrary to traditional theories, complex Maya beliefs may have inspired poor folk in the hinterlands as much as they did the governing elite in Classic-era centers.
Crucial evidence for this possibility comes from discoveries of rural Maya burials in rock shelters. These structures consist of stone walls erected around depressions in hills or mountains. In poor communities, rock shelters were used to bury the dead at the gate of mythical "creation caves," says David M. Glassman of Southwest Texas State University in San Marcos.
In contrast, ancient Maya royalty were buried in tombs that symbolized caves and in some cases even contain artificial stalactites, Glassman asserts. Upon dying, Maya bigwigs thus gained direct access to the supernatural underworld that had issued their founding ancestors.
"All settlements, large and small, shared the religious ideology of the Maya elite, yet expressed and celebrated it in different ways and with different resources," Glassman contends.
POT LUCK. A small chamber at the end of a convoluted underground passage holds two ceramic water jars, apparently untouched for 1,200 years. The items have been covered in calcite by water dripping from the ceiling.
A. Cobb
In the Maya Mountains of southern Belize, he and his colleagues have excavated a rock shelter located just below the entrance to a natural cave. The shelter contains skeletal remains of more than 150 people, all lying in a flexed position facing the cave's entrance. Items placed in the graves include pottery, obsidian blades, and various types of rock.
In the past few years, other researchers have found other rock-shelter cemeteries in the same region of Belize.
Prufer's group discovered human skeletons in three natural rock shelters high in the Maya Mountains, not far from the ruins of Muklebal Tzul. Skeletal remnants of 13 individuals have been tallied so far.
POT LUCK. A small chamber at the end of a convoluted underground passage holds two ceramic water jars, apparently untouched for 1,200 years. The items have been covered in calcite by water dripping from the ceiling.
A. Cobb
Pottery styles and radiocarbon dates indicate that these rock shelters were used as cemeteries as early as 300 B.C., several centuries before intensive settlement of the area.
Soil in each of the burial sites contains dense concentrations of shells from a freshwater snail eaten by the ancient Maya. Large numbers of these shells have also turned up at the entrances to 16 Maya caves that were used for ritual activities. Prufer says that the shells were associated with sacred concepts of water, fertility, birth, and death.
Modern Maya groups continue to revere these snails. Several anthropologists have discovered offerings of snail shells recently left in niches at cave openings.
In 2001, Brady and his coworkers uncovered human graves in four of seven caves in a small, isolated, Guatemalan hill called Balam Na. The badly looted caves also yielded pottery and beads that date to times before the Classic period. When the researchers found the caves, pieces of crude stone walls lay at the entrances, indicating that these sacred sites had once been closed off.
The topmost cave appears to have entombed high-ranking individuals. That arrangement reflects an attempt to protect their graves from pillaging by invading groups, says Cal State's Sergio Garza.
The vulnerability of cave burials to theft may have encouraged the Classic-period tradition of placing royals in pyramid-covered tombs that symbolized caves within hills, Garza proposes
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Spiritual standoff
Maya researchers frequently regard artifact-strewn caves primarily as places where pottery and other objects were either thrown out or accidentally broken. Brady, however, says that those explanations pale when archaeologists dare to explore the dark, sometimes dangerous realms of caves.
CAVE PRESERVES. Some caves preserve delicate artifacts, such as a jaguar face mask made of unbaked clay (above) and a broken vessel in which a stalagmite grew (below). Both finds date to around A.D. 800.
J. Brady
CAVE PRESERVES. Some caves preserve delicate artifacts, such as a jaguar face mask made of unbaked clay (above) and a broken vessel in which a stalagmite grew (below). Both finds date to around A.D. 800.
J. Brady
Other critics of Brady's approach, such as David L. Webster of Pennsylvania State University in University Park, consider caves to have had ritual significance but don't see them as spiritual beacons on the sacred landscape. Caves in Maya country have long attracted all sorts of activity, from casual visitors and those seeking refuge to people burying their dead or conducting ritual ceremonies, he says.
Brady's conviction that Classic-era Maya rulers consistently oriented cities around caves and heeded widespread beliefs about a sacred landscape "is a hypothesis that remains to be proved," Webster remarks.
Still, Brady has changed some minds. Timothy W. Pugh of Queens College, City University of New York initially thought that a large, artificial pit dug out of bedrock at a Maya site in Guatemala served as a dump for ceremonial remains and the dismembered skeletons of at least 65 adults and children. After discussions with Brady, he examined the pit more closely and concluded that it represented an underground, sacred water source into which sacrificed individuals were thrown.
J. Brady
David Freidel of Southern Methodist University in Dallas has long held that a common set of spiritual beliefs has informed Maya life for at least the past 2,000 years. "I don't think we can overestimate the influence of a sacred concept of caves among the Maya," Freidel says.
For instance, major Classic sites such as Copan feature so-called labyrinth buildings that have intricate networks of darkened chambers probably designed as artificial caves for communing with gods and ancestors, according to Freidel.
"Brady's ideas are very convincing," he says. "Maya cave archaeology is now in the scientific mainstream."
References:
Aguilar, M., M.M. Jaen, and J. Brady. 2002. Origin caves and cosmology: A man-made chicomoztoc complex at Acatzingo Viejo. 67th Annual Meeting of the Society for American Archaeology. March 20-24. Denver.
Brady, J. 2002. The implications of artificial caves for our understanding of cave function. 67th Annual Meeting of the Society for American Archaeology. March 20-24. Denver.
Garza, S., and C. Christensen. 2002. Balam Na Cave 4: Its implications for understanding preclassic cave mortuary practice. 67th Annual Meeting of the Society for American Archaeology. March 20-24. Denver.
Glassman, D., and J.J. Bonor. 2002. Mortuary practices of the prehistoric Maya from Caves Branch Rock Shelter, Belize. 67th Annual Meeting of the Society for American Archaeology. March 20-24. Denver.
Halperin, C., et al. 2002. New perspectives on Maya freshwater shell exploitation. 67th Annual Meeting of the Society for American Archaeology. March 20-24. Denver.
Petel, S. 2002. Caves and pilgrimage on Cozumal Island. 67th Annual Meeting of the Society for American Archaeology. March 20-24. Denver.
Prufer, K., and A. Kindon. 2002. Replicating the sacred landscape: The Ce'en at Muklebal Tzul. 67th Annual Meeting of the Society for American Archaeology. March 20-24. Denver.
Pugh, T. 2002. Cracks in the Carapace: Underworld metaphors in late postclassic Maya ceremonial groups. 67th Annual Meeting of the Society for American Archaeology. March 20-24. Denver.
Saul, J., and F. Saul. 2002. Maya mountain rockshelter burials: Nearer to the gods? 67th Annual Meeting of the Society for American Archaeology. March 20-24. Denver.
Stone, A. 2002. Animal imagery and its implications in Maya cave art. 67th Annual Meeting of the Society for American Archaeology. March 20-24. Denver.
Further Readings:
Bower, B. 1998. Sacred secrets of the caves. Science News 153(Jan. 24):56-57. Available at
http://www.sciencenews.org/sn_arc98/1_24_98/bob1.htm
.
Sources:
Manuel Aguilar
Department of Art
California State University
Los Angeles, CA 90032
James E. Brady
Department of Anthropology
California State University
Los Angeles, CA 90032
David A. Freidel
Southern Methodist University
Department of Anthropology
Dallas, TX 75275-0001
Sergio Garza
Department of Anthropology
California State University
Los Angeles, CA 90032
David M. Glassman
Department of Anthropology
Southwest Texas State University
San Marcos, TX 78666
Keith Pruder
Department of Anthropology
Southern Illinois University
Carbondale, IL 62901
Timothy W. Pugh
Department of Anthropology
Queens College/CUNY
Flushing, NY 11367
Andrea Stone
Department of Art History
University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee
Milwaukee, WI 53201
David L. Webster
Pennsylvania State University
Department of Anthropology
University Park, PA 16802
http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20020518/bob9.asp
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MAYA STORY OF ESCAPE FROM ATLANTIS
The beginning of a continuous bas-relief frieze discovered by Maler in Yucatan, which suggests to a remarkable degree the Atlantean cataclysm. The above photograph describes a pyramid and temple collapsing, a volcano in eruption and the land sinking. The figure in the water suggests destruction of life by drowning. Many escaped as symbolized by the figure in the boat.
The Codex Troano of the Mayas, translated by Augustus le Plongeon, the celebrated Mayanist, recounts the tragedy of Lemurian Atlantis, which sunk away in a terrible cataclysm. It tells that millions of people died in the cataclysm, and that the event took place "8,060 years before the writing of this book." Supposing that the codex was written at about 1,500 BC, the start of the pre-classic Era, when the Mayan (Olmec) civilization sprung, we get a date for the cataclysm of about 11,600 BP. This is in perfect agreement with the date given by Plato. As is known, the Mayas originally came to America from an overseas paradise called Aztlan which sunk away underseas. Aztlan in visibly no other thing than Plato's Atlantis. Except that Aztlan was located beyond the Pacific, rather than the Atlantic Ocean.
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CODEX TROANO
ITZAMNA ARRIVING FROM THE EAST AS
DEPICTED IN THE CODEX TROANO.
Mayan myths say that their ancestors came from the ocean. Like the Nahuatl people to their north they describe more than one foundation. The mythical civilizer Itzamna, carrying the letters of what would become the Mayan language, arrived from the east, to found one age. Itzamna came across a sea with twelve paths through it (in celestial sea the zodiac has twelve paths).
Later, in a different age, another migration came from the west, led by Kukulcan, the Maylan equivalent of Quetzalcoatl. Like the peoples of Mexico who described several incarnations of Quetzalcoatl and like Hindus who described many appearances of their lord-god Krishna, the Maya myths had Kukulcan arriving several times. One appearance was in the form of Tonaca, a migrating seafarer. In Peru the Quechua say Tonapa, a seafaring incarnation of Viracocha, left into the Pacific to found civilizations in Oceana.
From Atlantis in America – Navigators of the Ancient World by Ivar Zapp and George Ericson
http://www.goldenageproject.org.uk/195codex.html
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