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« Reply #180 on: April 10, 2008, 01:13:01 pm »

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No Chronos it is not a Goodbye, as I said, I know who are worthy, and to those I will reply.

Faith is quite right in the reasons for the destruction of the Great Library, the other reason was Aristotle, the bridge to the poison.

It is easier to understand Aristotles role when we understand the role of certain "Priests" who were responsible for the rulership of countries, such as Egypt.

He played young Alexander quite well, then when he was done, the poison went to work and he returned to his Black Robe.

The other doctrine that was responsible not only for the ruin of Alexandria, but also for the innocent lives of many was simply this......


..."They Shall be put to Death".....

this simple clause, in the Koran,Islam and amongst the muslims was that poison that those people believed in, a Religion of the Blood of Brine from Phoenicia.

Well then, if you don't watch the Olympics, you shall be put to death, if you don't watch Family Guy, you shall be put to death, if you don't drink Coca Cola, you shall be put to death, if you don't brush your teeth, you shall be put to death....


It is a sick and demented philosophy that we as a Unified World need to dissolve.

You have your country, keep it amongst yourselves, if you wish to bleed brine.

Across your border lies people who merit their lands from their hard work and endeavors to survive............

They know not the real God, and commit much falsity amongst themselves and humans with doctrines of brine.

It is only a matter of time when their own will come to realize the great atrocities commited by their Black Priests of Brine.....

For the oldest God to All of us in Antiquity is..


JA, from him came the others.


To this you hear from a real Prophet.

A White Prophet.

For if people do not abide by your laws or religion, the answer is exhilement, not DEATH.

Nor shall those across your borders be put to Death, lest it is the eyes of your children and loved ones that you see turn to BLACK.


The Heart is Sacred, The Mind is not.


The Mystery of Alexandria's disappearance is not so much a mystery, anymore.


What we need to put together for Alexandria, is a list of all the authors whose books would be in there.

What we need to put together for the World....


is pure knowledge and love to preserve and prosper so you may see your children laugh. 

Riven-The Seer and RoyalBloodline to Atlantis.

Son of JA.

Revealer of Mysteries. 


Spread The Light for here we return to....


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« Reply #181 on: April 10, 2008, 01:13:28 pm »

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Riven,

It may well be that we have an incomplete picture of Aristotle's role in the Atlantis story. While he is given credit for the famous quote disputing the idea of Atlantis, and was probably instumental in Atlantis not being a topic for study at the Academy, he is given credit for another quote concerning Atlantis in something called the "Constituion of the Taegians." The exact wording escapes me, but I believe it was from one of Europa's posts under the "Atlantis References" thread.

Other works that might have been at the Library?

How about a "Rosetta Stone" of sorts for both Linear A & B, along with a complete Minoan history?

Socrates' written works (if he had any).

Solon's original account of Atlantis (it might well have been there and destroyed, too).

The original Egyptian story in hierolgylphs of Atlantis.

The writings of Archimedes & Pythagoras.

Basque, Berber, perhaps even Guanche records of the great civilization that spawed them.

Hellanicus' compete account of "Atlantis" which may well have verified Plato's details, after a fashion.

More complete historical accounts of the life of Jesus Christ.

The Emerald Tablets of Thoth.

Egyptian pre-history before the age of the Pharoahs.

The historical records of a thousand other civilizations that may well have existed, yet were destroyed in the flood(s).

I agree with Faith that the Muslims were ultimately responsible for the Library's destruction and that there has been a great deal of anti-Christian propaganda. We all know that history, such as it is, tends to be written by those who are the latest in control of a piece of land.

Glad you're okay, by the way. I would also certainly agree with Faith in that you shouldn't let the opinions of others tear you down, let alone effect your work in anyway. If they can't understand it, it happens to be their loss, not yours.

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« Reply #182 on: April 10, 2008, 01:13:48 pm »

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Atlanteans will never perish......

nor ever be defeated, but the purpose is greater..

than simple minds.....


see.....Chronos?

The Evil is amongst us, and I have taken a piece of their mind.........


when our shelves are complete....


There........Thoth's Book you will find.


I already know where it is....


and JA. 


Thank You.
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« Reply #183 on: April 10, 2008, 01:14:06 pm »

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Are you writing a book, Riven?

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« Reply #184 on: April 10, 2008, 01:14:32 pm »

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I'm the one writing the book, Saltzman.
It's about how to destroy someone through inciting paranoia and fear. You are to be my next subject. Smiley

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Some more books that should have been read at the library:

http://www.pastorigins.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=59
http://www.simaqianstudio.com/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t4217.html
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« Reply #186 on: April 10, 2008, 01:15:12 pm »

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I'm glad that you seem to be doing better, Riven, you were in my prayers last night.

This forum seems to thrive in people who only seem contented if they are making others unhappy. So don't let them. We are, each of us, who we are, for a purpose. I personally believe our lives are worth a hundredfold more if we have a positive effect on people as opposed to a negative one. It's also harder for negative people to remain negative if you don't return their feelings in kind. That's what being a Christian is all about.

Remember, whatever you do, you'll always have friends.

God Bless

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« Reply #187 on: April 10, 2008, 01:15:54 pm »

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Let not Aristotle teach the youth,
for his Black King is now fallen,
taken upon the witching hour....
praised from another
whose poison you devour,
twas not so kind...
to explode his mind
but clear the path
of the blood of brine.
Yet kin to him,
shall never to reign,
but eat the dust
upon the plain of Cain...

for the Katydids chirp no more,
when Satiman opens the door...
not once, but twice more...


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« Reply #188 on: April 10, 2008, 01:16:14 pm »

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This forum seems to thrive in people who only seem contented if they are making others unhappy.

You noticed?

I wish someone would take charge of the personal attacks,we can debate without personal attacks,or this forum is doomed, and soon.

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Best thing to do is simply to ignore the person making the personal attack, Ishtar. Eventually, they get bored because no one is paying attention to them and drift away.

The forum should be about research, not about who can come up with the best insults towards each other.

Speaking of animosity, I thought it might be interesting if we explored the relationship between Aristotle and Plato.

"He who created it, destroyed it," is the famous quote of Aristotle towards Atlantis. The comment not only speaks volumes of Aristotle's lack of belief towards Atlantis, but something of his contempt for Plato, too, I have always felt. But are there any other writings that go into anymore detail about their relationship?

Plato clearly felt great admiration for Socrates, the figure that dominates much of his early work. How odd that he should have wound up with Aristotle, a figure who, by all appearances anyway, lacked a similar respect for him.

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From the age of 18 to 37 Aristotle remained in Athens as a pupil of Plato and distinguished himself at the Academy. The relations between Plato and Aristotle have formed the subject of various legends, many of which depict Aristotle unfavourably. No doubt there were divergences of opinion between Plato, who took his stand on sublime, idealistic principles, and Aristotle, who even at that time showed a preference for the investigation of the facts and laws of the physical world. It is also probable that Plato suggested that Aristotle needed restraining rather than encouragement, but not that there was an open breach of friendship. In fact, Aristotle's conduct after the death of Plato, his continued association with Xenocrates and other Platonists, and his allusions in his writings to Plato's doctrines prove that while there were conflicts of opinion between Plato and Aristotle, there was no lack of cordial appreciation or mutual forbearance. Besides this, the legends that reflect Aristotle unfavourably are traceable to the Epicureans, who were known as slanderers. If such legends were circulated widely by patristic writers such as Justin Martyr and Gregory Nazianzen, the reason lies in the exaggerated esteem Aristotle was held in by the early Christian heretics, not in any well-grounded historical tradition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristotle

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Aristotle as philosopher and tutor

After the death of Plato (347 BC), Aristotle was considered as the next head of the Academy, a post that was eventually awarded to Plato's nephew. Aristotle then went with Xenocrates to the court of Hermias, ruler of Atarneus in Asia Minor, and married his niece and adopted daughter, Pythia. In 344 BC, Hermias was murdered in a rebellion, and Aristotle went with his family to Mytilene. It is also reported that he stopped on Lesbos and briefly conducted biological research. Then, one or two years later, he was summoned to Pella, the Macedonian capital, by King Philip II of Macedon to become the tutor of Alexander the Great, who was then 13.

It is possible that Aristotle also participated in the education of Alexander's boyhood friends, which may have included for example Hephaestion and Harpalus. Aristotle maintained a long correspondence with Hephaestion, eventually collected into a book, unfortunately now lost.

Very little is known about Aristotle's personal appearance except from hostile sources. The statues and busts of Aristotle, possibly from the first years of the Peripatetic School, represent him as sharp and keen of countenance, and somewhat below the average height. His character—as revealed by his writings, his will (which is undoubtedly genuine), fragments of his letters and the allusions of his unprejudiced contemporaries—was that of a high-minded, kind-hearted man, devoted to his family and his friends, kind to his slaves, fair to his enemies and rivals, grateful towards his benefactors. When Platonism ceased to dominate the world of Christian speculation, and the works of Aristotle began to be studied without fear and prejudice, the personality of Aristotle appeared to the Christian writers of the 13th century, as it had to the unprejudiced pagan writers of his own day, as calm, majestic, untroubled by passion, and undimmed by any great moral defects, "the master of those who know".

Aristotle's legacy also had a profound influence on Islamic thought and philosophy during the middle ages. The likes of Avicenna, Farabi, and Yaqub ibn Ishaq al-Kindi1 were a few of the major proponents of the Aristotelian school of thought during the Golden Age of Islam.

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« Reply #192 on: April 10, 2008, 01:17:54 pm »

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Aristotle has been criticised on several grounds.

His analysis of procreation is frequently criticised on the grounds that it presupposes an active, ensouling masculine element bringing life to an inert, passive, lumpen female element; it is on these grounds that some feminist critics refer to Aristotle as a misogynist.
At times, the objections that Aristotle raises against the arguments of his own teacher, Plato, appear to rely on faulty interpretations of those arguments.
Although Aristotle advised, against Plato, that knowledge of the world could only be obtained through experience, he frequently failed to take his own advice. Aristotle conducted projects of careful empirical investigation, but often drifted into abstract logical reasoning, with the result that his work was littered with conclusions that were not supported by empirical evidence: for example, his assertion that objects of different mass fall at different speeds under gravity, which was later refuted by John Philoponus. Credit is often given to Galileo, even though Philopinus lived centuries before him.

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A very nice but lengthy analysis of the decline of the ancient library:

http://www.digital-brilliance.com/kab/alex.htm

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« Reply #194 on: April 10, 2008, 01:18:48 pm »

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Riven,

Does your disappearance coincide with the End Times?

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