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« Reply #60 on: January 23, 2008, 12:09:19 am »

 
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That's a joke right?
Which mountain?
Who's TSM?
What did your dad's invention look like?
Anything about my favorite aliens in there??


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not a joke.
iron mountain - look it up.
temporal subliminal man - a fellow forum member who usually graces the threads that tend to deal with alternative sciences, ancient technology, and anti-gravitics.
the original housing/design was somewhat pyramidal shaped, but was then fashioned into more of a cylindrical form to minimize size, weight, and to eliminate bulkiness. it is described variously as an exhaustless propulsion system, more efficient generator, linear accelerator. it is ridiculuosly simple in design and theory, but calibration of mass in the armature as pertains to timing/sequencing is critical. it can be mounted on just about anything as a form of powering/motoring. or it can be directly harnessed much like the shaft of a propeller. basically, it generates huge amounts of spin/energy relative to the very little input required - therefore the description of more effecient generator.
currently miniature versions seem to have the most versatility and utility. it has been looked at by various agencies i.e. wright patterson, nasa, ft. belvoir. all i can say presently ...
nordic rep has not materialized lately - sorry.


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So I looked it up.
Not much in the way of solid info on Iron Mountain, but I think I get the picture.
Any particular link you can point me to? Sounds interesting.
Are you a scientist, Via Mars??
You sure are starting to sound like one!
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well jenny, i don't know as much as i would like to, regarding the repository. however, it has been featured on marden marvels or some such learning channel source.
it's not the only place of it's type, but probably the largest and most secure of any in the mid and eastern states. besides many documents from the patent office, it contains many original recordings, tapes, and other media. the site also has a commercial document storage facility for sensitive and/or proprietary data, microfiche, and other similar data storage devices - even hard drives.
certain federal storage places exist, some at military sites, crystal city, and others out west.
you can bet your bottom dollar that all those crazy devices invented over the years that are deemed national security risks, many of which have never been viewed by the public, are stashed in these sites.
count various ancient antiquities as likely shelf denizens too - the smithsonian can't be trusted to guard everything in that respect.
me a scientist? maybe deep down inside, but i never finished high school. however, i am an adherant to the scientific method. i also like to do my best spock imitation when confronted with curiosities. when all else fails, what's left is logic. whether perceived or not.


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So I still haven't found much about Iron Mountain, but I did run across this cool article about aliens controlling the government that I would like everyone's opinion on:

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From Surfing the Apocalypse

ALIENS BEHIND WORLD GOVERNMENT
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D. M.

17th March 2004

The plan for the New World Order did not originate on Earth – it is a system devised by aliens. The concept of the New World Order is based upon an old Anunnaki system which has been employed in other galaxies a long, long time ago. This system is now being pushed for implementation on Earth by the Anunnaki Remnants who remain on Earth. The Anunnaki Remnants are the ones that were left behind on Earth by the Anunnaki Elite when they escaped this world (see my previous writing of Nibiru and the Anunnaki for further explanation).

The New World Order is based upon the premise that there is to be a supreme commander who oversees the affairs of the world. During transition into a global government smaller and weaker nations are being forced or lured into accepting self-appointed stronger nations to act as their police force. Later, the police force will expand and become an international police force under a single master. At first, this will appear to be a plan for a peaceful co-existence amongst nations which will benefit all nations. However, it is a plan to eliminate all nation states, freedom, civil rights and to control the people of the world under a single ideology in the name of one global community.

The New World Order is a One World Order with a hidden agenda to rule by fear, control, exploitation and bullying. The ruling elite of the world’s wealthy, powerful and influential have been pushing for a New World Order with a One World Government under the pretence of establishing world peace while they are in fact imposing their will upon every nation. They call themselves the “peacemakers” but in truth they are an international police force which organized “war crimes” tribunals, supposedly to give the “political criminals” a fair trial before persecuting them.

The vast majority of the ruling elite of the world are either descendants of Anunnaki Remnants or their supporters. A trait of the Anunnaki is to rule by instigating people to remain in a state of perpetual conflict. Peace is not even a consideration of the Anunnaki, who are a warmongering, bloodthirsty, lustful, perverted, deceptive, brutal race of beings who have controlled the Earth for a long time.

At present, the fragmentation, conflict, hate, jealousy, suspicion, mistrust, intolerance, biasness amongst nations, cultures and those of diverse religions etc. appear to be obstacles to the realisation of One World Order. However, each of those traits was introduced by the Anunnaki as part of their plan to rule by segregation and division. The rule by fragmentation was only a transitional phase in a very long-range plan to bring about a One World Government by claiming that such a government can bring about world peace. In fact, the One World Government is a tool for the establishment of an absolute dictatorship over the entire world – a tyranny. Once the plan is in its final stages, it will be forced upon everyone. The people of the world will have no choice but to toe the line and follow the dictates of the One World Order or face severe consequences.

For a New World Order where diverse nations are drawn together under supposedly one common cause, humanity becomes enslaved to its One World Order sovereignty. The New World Order will not happen overnight. The idea was seeded a long, long time ago, and slowly but certainly it is weaving its way unsuspectedly through the monetary, political, religious, cultural, educational, scientific etc. systems. It started to gain momentum in the last 10 years. The speed of its emergence has taken a quickened stride in the last three years, with one planned event after another taking place in various parts of the world in order to test and exercise the power of the would-be New World Order under the leadership of self-proclaimed, “high” moral standing personnel with the backing of a powerful dictatorial government.

At present, while the current push for a New World Order appears to be under the control of an elite group of Anunnaki Remnants which I call the “Vulturites”, the real control is under the more cunning group of Anunnaki Remnants, which have been called the “Reptilians”. These two groups of Anunnaki Remnants are in perpetual conflict with one another. However, for the time being, the Reptilians are purposely backing off to trick the Vulturites into doing the dirty job of setting up the New World Order before taking it over from them when they feel the time is right.

As I have stated a long time ago, most of the consciousnesses of the Reptilian Anunnaki Remnants who were previously residing in human bodies predominantly in the United States and some parts of Europe have now shifted their locations to China. Consciousnesses of the Vulturite Anunnaki Remnants have now taken over most of those bodies previously occupied by the Reptilian Anunnaki Remnants.

The process towards the One World Order was implemented long ago on Earth. Recent aspects of the move are seen in the evolution of credit card systems, identification systems, smart card systems, social security systems, taxation systems, health care cards etc. – these are just some of the recent systems introduced to control, condition, profile and keep tab of the whereabouts and activities of people. Yet superficially, these systems appear to be signs of advancement in technology and affluence so most people are not aware of the hidden agenda behind these schemes.

Already, humans are being secretly micro-chipped with physical implants for ease of identification and location of those chipped individuals – while also controlling their minds – by those working under the Anunnaki Remnants who have control of all facets of systems in this world, be they political, cultural, educational, commercial, pharmaceutical, monetary, military or otherwise. Every day when popular programmes are aired on radio, movie screens and especially on television, people are exposed to the risk of being programmed subliminally through the flashes of light, camera angles used, words uttered, musical accompaniment etc. to “think” as the Anunnaki Remnants want them to “think”. However, there is a small minority amongst the population in human bodies, especially those with alien ties, who have stronger WILL than most to resist such programming provided they do not give in to the ruling elite’s threats, bribes etc.

The minds of people are currently being altered. The minority of the population on Earth who are resisting the “controller” are currently under surveillance. This minority group contains those who openly or quietly resist the so-called conventional and popular beliefs. They are not without the assistance of a Force which is fighting the Darkness of the “controller”. Soon, this will become obvious. However, not everyone who is engaged in resisting the “controller” is of the Light.

Audible and inaudible sounds have also been released over the years to weaken human bodies and minds so as to control and poison their bodies, minds and actions. These sounds are also used to regulate various aspects of individual and collective human bodies and societal functions. Ultimately, the aim of the ruling elite is to get rid of the majority of the human race before openly inhabiting and controlling the world that they now secretly control, and they have been doing so for a long time.

Many have considered how vast the conspiracy for a One World Order would have to be, and they have attempted to refute it by stating that certainly someone involved in such a massive project would have broken ranks and disclosed the conspiracy. This would be a valid argument, EXCEPT only the highest echelon participants know of the agenda. However, none of the upper echelon have the entire picture – they are only aware of fragments of the plan. The upper echelon cannot sort out the actual plan because it is built upon lies within lies within lies. Even the highest echelon on Earth are not the ultimate conspirators, they are merely following orders from their “controller” who is not in a physical body. The minions unknowingly follow the plan to its inevitable conclusion because of programming and other factors. Further, those of a Dark essence will naturally gravitate towards compliance with the Anunnaki Remnants’ agenda.

The public has little or no knowledge of what is occurring. Many of those who are resisting the One World Order have discussed at length the physical occurrences on the planet that point to the conspiracy and the New World Order. Some of those have even addressed spiritual aspects of the plan to decimate and enslave the human race, however, most of those people are coming from a perspective of conventional religious backgrounds, and as I have discussed repeatedly, the Anunnaki have set up and facilitated all popular religions on the planet – including the New Age movement. Unfortunately, there are always some good beings who get trapped in these movements. Hence, those who promote a global community are really assisting the “controller’s” plan, whether they are conscious of this or otherwise.

There are some humans who have already been chosen for survival by the ruling elite. These human survivors will be slaves to their masters. Many have been chosen according to bloodlines, professions, ontological essences etc. to accommodate the needs of the Anunnaki Remnants’ agendas.

The “controller” has an “elite guard” of fighters who are called the “Rumblers”. These Rumblers rarely left the “controller’s” side in the past. They were only used in desperate situations. However recently, a few of them have arrived on the planet to try to block the Attas, (The Rescuers of the Light, The Amoebas) who are in combat with the “controller” and all its minions.

Soon, the Rumblers will arrive on Earth in numbers. This will be a time when the battle between the forces of Light and Darkness will be in heightened conflict. The release of the Rumblers shows just how desperate the “controller” is becoming, especially since the “controller” is compromising its own protection by releasing its elite guard onto the planet.

Contrary to popular belief, the Earth is not an important place –it is just one of the final hiding places for the Anunnaki – they have very few places to go to in these final stages of the Correction Process.

The Attas are the targets of the Rumblers. The average person could not withstand assaults by the Rumblers; however, the Rumblers are no match for the Attas. Many of these Attas have arrived as “walk-ins” on Earth in humble positions, in female and male human bodies.

There are many examples of mass mind control tests upon the population of Earth. One such example is the case of Diana Spencer. To the unaware, it appeared that her death had touched their hearts, but this was not the case. They were in fact programmed to respond with an enormous outpouring of emotions, grief and distorted views about the deceased. Most of these people did not even know her, nor did they have any ties to her. Little do the people suspect that emotional energy they spent was being sucked out of them and collected by the “controller” for its own selfish purposes and agendas. Imagine the vastness of the mind-control project necessary to condition so many millions into “spontaneously grieving” for the deceased.

On the other hand, when United States President John Kennedy was assassinated, there was an outpouring of grief and emotion, but some of the grievers were Light beings who sensed that they had lost a dear friend on this Earth. His death was felt by all the Attas parts in one way or another. However, his departure was expected by the Attas, and no attempt was made by the Light to try to prevent it for a very good reason. This was true grieving by many. The emotional mass programming by the ruling elite was only in its infancy at the time.

As another example of mass programming, the “controller” can now summon up millions of protestors to spout whatever slogans are desired to bring about a desired situation. And, yet, on the surface, it appears that the actions of the protestors occurred as an understandable and even reasonable reaction to a particular situation. In reality, the protestors are being programmed and used by the ruling elite to allow them to implement a particular plan.

In the near future, travel will become even more restricted than it is today; internet services could also be restricted. The time may come when internet services will be available only to certain ones using frequencies that will be unavailable to the population at large.

Wars, revolutions, famines, epidemics, recessions, depressions, major catastrophes and casualties, bombings, murders and other meaningless destruction and sometimes even natural disasters are planned by the “controller” for its own agenda.

There was a document released entitled The Report from Iron Mountain which was commissioned by President John Kennedy in August of 1963. Kennedy was overshadowed by an Attas consciousness (he had to play a double-game with many Anunnaki politicians in order to be accepted by them and be elected President of the United States), and while there were some reports about him that are not particularly complimentary, most of these are contrived or exaggerated by the ruling elite, who also sponsored many of the libels. This is much like what was done to Thomas Jefferson, another Attas consciousness. Kennedy was assassinated three months after commissioning the report in which he was about to expose the warmongering mindsets of the people who are in control of the world. The stated purpose of this report was to consider the problems involved in the contingency of a transition to a general condition of peace and to recommend procedures for dealing with this contingency.

This report, which was published three years after Kennedy’s death, reveals the darkest recesses of demonic minds. It is filled with openly revolting revelations from many different political appointees about what is really on the minds of the ruling elite. In short, it is disgusting. Even though the report was leaked, it was never intended for public reading.

Many means of denial were employed to attempt to invalidate this document because the American government understandably wanted to distance itself from the report. Editors of newspapers were recruited and supposed authors came forward to claim they wrote it as a satire. It is hard to imagine that this document was intended as a satire, as it is devoid of humour – express or implied. Likewise, it is difficult to accept that a single author could be responsible for the extremely different styles and energies contained in the paper – not to mention the vast knowledge necessarily required to have written the document, which would not be available to a single person as even the higher echelon of the ruling elite have only fragments of the total plan.

This paper commences with the query of what would happen with a general détente amongst America, China and the Soviet Union, and asks the question: “Is the abolition of war, in the broad sense, really possible?”

In analysing the query, the paper states that stability of society is the common assumed objective of both peace and war.

Amongst other things, the paper dares to argue that were the war-making machines halted, all of the money saved would have to be rapidly consumed or else the people would have too much wealth, and become too cocky and difficult to control. Therefore, it was presented that in order to maintain stability it would be necessary to keep the people poor. The paper presented several wasteful programmes to dissipate any extra wealth that peace would bring to maintain economic control over the population.

Thus, it is learnt from the paper that since war is a system that has worked so effectively for so long it should be maintained. In a stark quote, the reader learns that: “Wars are not ‘caused’ by international conflicts of interest. . . . war-making societies require – and thus bring about – such consuch conflicts.” The report also concluded that: “The basic authority of a modern state over its people resides in its war powers.”

When considering the report one begins to realise that since it is impracticable for everyone to be at real war, there are mini-wars throughout the society. Families are but microcosms of nation states with their miniature struggles for power and control. People within families use varying tactics for seizing power and control, whether it be done via manipulation or oppressive violence. Sports are another substitute for war, where the participants are actually putting less energy into the contests than the followers of the various sports. In a sense, sports are the poor people’s wars, where millions will buy a strong conflict instead of the billions or trillions necessary for all-out-nation-state wars.

And, to show the attitudes of the warmongering minds responsible for the report regarding the prospect of peace, consider this quote from the report: “In a broad social context, ‘an eye for an eye’ still characterizes the only acceptable attitude toward a presumed threat of aggression, despite contrary religious and moral precepts governing personal conduct.”

This repulsive attitude continues today, and in fact has escalated with a huge percentage of the world’s population being programmed to support the “eye for an eye” attitude. The ruling elite is worried that if there were no wars, they could lose power and control over the people. Hence, they believe that there must be a substitute for wars, otherwise, the people might not bow down to their leaders. This shows not only the warped minds of the people who thrive in this exploitative world, it clearly shows that for their own selfish gratification, they want to keep the evil system afloat at all costs.

As a part of the tyrannical plan, the Anunnaki Remnants intend to clone the human mind and insert it into artificial life forms. Worse still, they spread the untruthful propaganda that everyone is a “god” in the making, appealing to the egos and playing upon the ignorance of those receiving this nonsense.

There is even the promotion of biological immortality, supposedly under the guidance of the so-called “Ascended Masters”. These Ascended Masters, by whatever name they usurp, are actually Anunnaki. What is actually happening by spreading such outrageous and dangerous untruths is that the people’s thinking is being altered so greatly that the Anunnaki Remnants hope to capture the spirits of the victims and encapsulate those spirits in a “time capsule”. It is the distorted belief of the “controller” that if it could imprison these spirits and could clone artificial spirits, these would have no will of their own, but would be totally at the mercy of the “controller” and its hierarchy. While this sounds like science fiction, it is indeed the plan.

Many prominent figures in the world, in diverse roles, are not at all what they appear to be. Many have been placed into these positions because they do the bidding of the Anunnaki Remnants, whether they are conscious of this or not. This world has long been controlled by the Anunnaki and its Remnants, who rule by fear, brute force and deception.

Those who dare to go against the system are disadvantaged or removed from power. This can be seen by the assassinations of several of the American presidents. Conversely, the British Prime Ministers do not share the same fate as their American counterparts because their positions were filled by Anunnaki Remnants or their representatives, such as Winston Churchill.

Having said this, it is imperative that we bear in mind the Anunnaki wear many disguises. They can appear to be a passionate proponent for peace, like Mahatma Ghandi, yet they are the very essence of deception of the Anunnaki. Contrarily, Indira Ghandi is a being of Light. Yet, both were assassinated.

Surrounding the American Revolutionary period, there were many Anunnaki Remnants and a few Light beings involved in playing prominent roles. For instance, John Adams, James Madison, John Marshall and Alexander Hamilton were Anunnaki-sponsored participants. On the other hand, Thomas Paine, Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin are all of Attas consciousness.

Elvis Presley, with his outward appearance of entrapment by glitter, glamour, fame, wealth and other issues, was not really trapped at all. He is an Attas who was here to do a specific job under the cover of a popular singer. His death took place, but not in the way the world believes it did. Like John Kennedy and Abraham Lincoln, Elvis too, was removed by the Dark Force, however, it was the time for each of them to go as they had completed their respective work.

It has recently been admitted by China that they execute at least 10,000 people each year, and it is easy to assume that the real figure is far greater. China has always been an important battleground between Light and Darkness, even though Darkness seems to flourish there because China has always been a stronghold for the Anunnaki Remnants. Since the Reptilian Anunnaki Remnants have shifted their consciousnesses to China the increase in executions in that country is no surprise. Likewise, the increased interest in UFO activities amongst the people of China is to be expected.

These days, there is a lot of talk about weapons of mass destruction. The real danger of weapons of mass destruction comes from the Anunnaki themselves. Many of these weapons were developed because of the work and theories of Anunnaki scientists such as Albert Einstein. These horrible weapons were developed so the Anunnaki in power can use them to threaten, coerce and enslave the people of the world.

This may sound like a very grim picture of the fate of humanity but this time the Attas are here with a whole host of reinforcements. They have come from the future and are amongst us today. As I have stated before, the Anunnaki Remnants are running out of time. Soon, they will be no more. In the meantime, each of us must consciously strengthen our WILL and never give it over to the oppressors.

I hope the energy contained in the following words I wrote a year ago will give strength to those who embrace the Light. At the time of publication, many mistakenly thought that the words dealt with the invasion of Iraq. However, they are more current today than they were a year ago. The words follow:

Other countries are going to join in. Syria will be the first. The birthplace (country) of Jesus will tremble.

Internal rebellion will occur in the number one on the top (Vulturite side) which will eventually fall and will be humiliated and punished.

The road to Damascus will lead to many places.

Bloodshed everywhere will cover the whole earth, streaming far and long.

All heads will turn as they witness the horrific end of mankind.

Humanity in transit will not rest in peace.

The voice of Old will scream out and be heard for miles around.

Those who caused the grim will find no place to hide. They will cringe in fear and be breathless. Their hearts will fly out in fear and numbness. Their days of Old will catch up with them. They will cry but no tears will come, they will scream but none will hear them, they will cry for help and forgiveness but none will be given to them. The gnashing of teeth and the tearing out of their hair will signal the end of the bloodthirsty tribe of Aaron.

“Mountains” will turn over to crush the evil ones. The mountain of giants will advance in numbers never witnessed before and march towards “Golgotha” and together the wind of fate will gather strength and push eastwards, northwards, southwards and even to the west. The land of Zion will cry and then will be no more. Hosanna in the highest all will shout but there will be none to hear or sing the song “Hosanna, Hosanna.”

Here are more words of encouragement for those who find comfort in them. I wrote and published this last July.

The crop of the serpent is about to be cut down.

The meaning of the boulders is about to be known.

The purpose of the quest is about to be realized.

The meeting of the fortunates will soon commence.

Be not fearful of the events.

Be ever on the ready.

The serpent has ruled unjustly and unfairly.

The bell will toll.

The Light will shine.

I will soon gather all that are mine.

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Iron Mountain Report: allegedly, the government's plan to unify the world under a single agenda under the umbrella of the so-called alien threat.
Wouldn't it be something if the whole alien thing was something totally made up so certain right wing types in order to try and control the world?

That's just about as believable as the whole alien thing...


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one must understand synergism, group psychology, and the need to believe - the latter usually instilled by church programming methods (for lack of a better interpretation).
we are intelligent animals, prone to these follies. a snowball gathers ... until it crushes the inhabitants of the valley below.


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Mr. Mars, you no give one word on Iron Mountain, I no give one word on the Nordics..! Maybe later.
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Messengers from Heaven
Extraterrestrials, the Church, and the Fate of Humanity
Part II: Angels or Aliens?
From Biblical times, signs in the sky have played a large part in human religion. Are they supernatural or supertechnological? Does it matter?
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It is certainly easy to see why signs in the heavens should be of such peculiar concern to the Roman Catholic Church, or indeed, any religious institution. For the link between divine presences and the skies above is deeply ingrained in human consciousness and language. The very word “heaven,” denoting God’s Kingdom with the vertical connotations of up = good, down = bad, not to mention the importance “signs from above” throughout recorded history argue that this connection is not accidental. It seems to be an intimate archetypal association that is reflected in whatever geocentric cosmologies we humans construct.

When Christ prayed, “Our Father, Who art in Heaven,” it is important to remember that in the Ptolemaic world-view of the time, “Heaven” was not the abstract, ethereal dimension of fluffy clouds and white light we think of now. Rather, God’s realm was a physical place above the outermost shell of stars surrounding the Earth. Just as nowadays, there is a growing temptation to wonder just what planet Jesus was referring to!

Much of this is due to the wholesale recasting of mythological themes by mass sci-fi, most notably by the Star Trek and Star Wars franchises. Such literalization itself reflects the mysterious connection between divinity and the dome of heaven that makes the questions posed by UFOs profoundly religious ones.


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Close encounters of the Biblical kind
The Bible, both Old and New Testaments, is filled with accounts of encounters with divine beings that read uncomfortably to us moderns like tales of extraterrestrial contact out of a bad space opera. Barry H. Downing’s The Bible and Flying Saucers (1968) [1], for instance, contains a long litany of them. He bravely put forth the necessary questions Christianity must now ask when faced with signs from the heavens.

A few of his examples: Abraham and the “smoking firepot and a flaming torch” that appeared in the sky as a sign of acceptance of his sacrifice (Genesis 15:17), the “pillar of cloud” by day and the “pillar of fire” by night that led Moses and the Israelites (Exodus 13:22), God landing on Mount Sinai in smoke, with a sound of a trumpet before them (Exodus 19:18-19), Elijah being “carried up to heaven” in a “chariot of fire” which created a whirlwind (II Kings 2:11), and of course, Ezekiel’s famous psychedelic close encounter (Ezekiel 1:1-28).

The New Testament likewise contains many familiar-sounding sightings. Foremost is the famous “Star of Bethlehem” which Matthew records that the “Wise Men” — probably Zoroastrian astronomer-priests — followed “till it came to rest over the place where the child was” (Matt. 2:9) — most unusual behavior for a supernova, comet, or planetary conjunction! The birth itself had been immediately announced by the appearance of a messenger shining with “the glory of the Lord” to shepherds in the fields at night. (Luke 2:9)

Downing, himself a minister, argues that many of the terms describing such glorious and shining lights could be descriptions of UFOs. Even the shape believed to be the Holy Spirit that was seen to “descend like a dove” at Christ’s baptism and the “bright cloud” at the Transfiguration, (Matt. 17:1-8) might have been extraterrestrial craft. The men in shining clothes, such as those the disciples believed were Moses and Elijah at the Transfiguration, would then have been their occupants.

After the Crucifixion, yet another of these fellows came out of the sky, rolled the stone away from the tomb and announced the Resurrection. And of course, at the end of Jesus mission on Earth, he rose into the air and “a cloud took him out of their sight” while two of those mysterious Men in White consoled the disciples (Acts 1:6-11).

Downing recently has taken issue with Balducci, objecting to the monsignor’s desire to have UFOs treated as natural physical objects that have no impact on the faith. His own approach “does not presume that we can be sure any insulation separates UFOs and the biblical faith. We cannot assume that the ”pillar of cloud and of fire“ that led Moses and Israel during the Exodus was supernatural. Nor can we assume it was not. We cannot assume that modern UFOs are supernatural, nor that they are not. We cannot assume modem UFOs were involved in developing biblical faith, nor can we assume they were not.”

I thoroughly agree with this position. There may be no difference between “the supernatural and the supertechnological.” We must be open to these possibilities, not “insulate” faith from reason, and question everything.

Is the Creator an alien? One could argue that the sacred Torah, the very Law of God given to the Jews, could have been established to provide conditions in which to breed healthy stock. The Levitical restrictions on marriage, the prohibitions on homosexuality, premature withdrawal (“onanism”), as much as the dietary laws, may all have this end of creating and causing a particular bloodline to flourish. Recent studies proving the widespread existence of an “Aaronic” gene among Jewish men would indicate it succeeded.

But why would God want to selectively breed humans as if they were cattle on his cosmic ranch? A Christian might speculate that it was to prepare the proper genetic context for his Son, but that only begs the question. Why would God need a certain genotype to incarnate? Just how close “an image and likeness” of God are we, anyway?

Indeed, the Virgin Birth itself, where Mary was “overshadowed by the power of God,” (Luke 1:35) has uncomfortable echoes of tales of the alien-breeding program. Such parallels go on and on and what is worse, the closer the tale is to the central mysteries of faith, the more extraterrestrial the encounter can appear.


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The saint and the silver disc
In any case, not all such UFO-like visions came from God. Some were sent of the Devil. One such early example was a sighting by St. Antony of the Desert (died 356), the first Christian monk. He was famed for his “temptations;” that is, being frequently and violently assaulted by grotesque devils of all varieties. He became a much sought-after expert on demonic wiles and appearances. In the fourth chapter of his hagiography there is this remarkable incident:

… but Antony at once set out for the mountain. Yet once more the enemy [the devil], seeing his zeal and wishing to check it, threw in his way a large disc of silver. Antony, understanding the deceit of the Evil One, stood and looked at the disc and confuted the demon in it, saying, “Whence a disc in the desert? This is not a trodden road, and there is no track of any faring this way. And it could not have fallen unnoticed, being of huge size. And even if it had been lost, the loser would certainly have found it had he turned back to look, because the place is a desert. This is a trick of the devil. You will not hinder my purpose by this, Satan; let this thing perish with thee.” And as Antony said this, it disappeared like smoke before the face of a fire.[2]

It is a rather amusing image, this fearless hermit, probably half-crazed by the sun, boldly berating a flying saucer, but it illustrates that the Church long thought high-strangeness apparitions were caused by devils if they resulted in negative experiences.

Throughout the Middle Ages this principle held. There were certain interesting elements of the witchcraft craze of the early modern era that resemble modern UFO and abductee reports. The Men in Black, for instance, believed by all to be Satan’s minions (or perhaps even Old Nick himself), were particularly active.

Strangely reminiscent of the alien hybrid-breeding program was the idea, as reported by the Inquisitor Guazzo in the sixteenth century, of succubae and incubi. These were evil spirits who could appear to men as beautiful women, procure their sperm, and transport the seed across great distances to women, whom they would manifest in the guise of handsome men to implant their demon spawn, which they had somehow infused with their own diabolical traits. This could still serve as a perfect explanation, perhaps, for the Grey’s sexual agenda, according to the demonic theory of UFOs.


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Our Lady of the Whirling Disc
If, on the other hand, the encounter was of a sublime and positive nature, it is inevitably ascribed to a divine contact. The most famous of these happened less than a century ago whose repercussions continue to this day. It was a series of incidents that has been carefully examined by both theologians and ufologists alike, and pronounced by learned authorities in each camp to be legitimate events within their own field. I refer, of course, to the visions at Fatima.

Our Lady of Fatima [3], to which Pope John Paul II attributes his survival of the assassination attempt by Mehmet Ali Agca, appeared to three young shepherds, Lucy, Francis, and Jacinta, in rural Portugal beginning on May 13, 1917. In due course, the Roman Catholic hierarchy authenticated these apparitions as being of the Mother of God, and the site has become a world-famous place of pilgrimage, complete with miraculous healings.

A sudden white flash in the heavens announced her first appearance. The entity appeared to the children as a veiled young woman in a golden-edged white gown, decorated with golden stars on the breast and hem. She appeared standing amid one of those glowing clouds over a small bush.

More visions followed on a monthly basis and others soon became interested, including suspicious and hostile secular authorities. No one other than the children ever clearly saw the Lady. However, during later apparitions, the sun dimmed noticeably, the branches of the tree bent as if supporting a weight, and a humming sound was heard. “A loud report like the explosion of a rocket was heard at the end of the apparition, and at the same time a beautiful white cloud was seen to rise from the tree and move towards the east.” (Emphasis added.)

The children were given other visions on these occasions and others, all thoroughly Catholic — the Sacred Heart, the baby Jesus. They were shown even hell itself and in July, the Lady predicted the end of the First World War and the beginning of the Second — the first two of the famous “secrets of Fatima.” The next war would be heralded by “a night illumined by an unknown light” which Lucy later thought referred to an extraordinary transcontinental display of the aurora borealis on the night of January 25-26, 1938.

Interestingly enough, a few months before the October Revolution brought the Bolsheviks to power, the Lady promised that if her requests for prayer and sacrifice were heard “Russia would be converted and there would be peace.”

The police locked the children up to prevent them from attending in August at the time set by the Virgin. She appeared to them at another place the next week when they were again alone with their flock but was apparently not happy about it.

Here is the account of the next encounter according to the great French UFO expert, Jacques Vallee:

The fifth meeting was September 13. There were a number of witnesses, and they could see the “sphere of fire” used by the entity to come to the place of the meeting. According to the very words of the Reverand [sic] General Vicar of Leiria, who was one of the witnesses the lady came in an “aeroplane of light,” an “immense globe, flying westwards, at moderate speed. It irradiated a very bright light.” Some other witnesses saw a white being coming out of the globe, which several minutes later took off, disappearing in the direction of the sun. [4]

Some said a shower of strange flakes, like snow or rose petals, which vanished before they reached the ground or could be caught, followed this. But the best was still yet to come.

The Lady had promised a grand miracle in October and she certainly delivered a spectacular show. Indeed, at the final encounter exactly one month later, a crowd of some 70,000 people, including both clergy and scientists, witnessed the famous “miracle of the sun.”

One of the latter, a Prof. Almeida Garrett of Coimbra University, later wrote:

It was raining hard, and the rain trickled down everyone’s clothes. Suddenly, the sun shone through the dense cloud which covered it: everybody looked in its direction. It looked like a disc, of a very definite contour. It was not dazzling. I don’t think that it could be compared to a dull silver disc, as someone said later in Fatima. No. It rather possessed a clear, changing, brightness, which one could compare to a pearl. This is not poetry. My eyes have seen it. This clear-shaped disc suddenly began turning. It rotated with increasing speed. Suddenly, the crowd began crying with anguish. The sun, revolving all the time, began falling towards the earth, reddish and bloody, threatening to crush everybody under its fiery weight. (Emphasis by Vallee.) [5]

The disk, described as spinning and shooting off colors “like a Catherine’s wheel” firework, plunged at the Earth three times according to some witnesses before retreating back behind the clouds. Newspaper photos of the crowd showed the mass of people cringing in fear and astonishment from something seemingly sunwards above them. The spectacle, seen by some miles away, completely validated the children’s claims. The Virgin’s wishes for specific prayers and devotions to her that she expressed to them were widely broadcast — and obeyed.

Lucy, the sole one of the trio to survive into adulthood (still alive at 93 at the time of this writing), became a cloistered nun and received many private revelations. During World War II, she wrote down the three secret messages from the Virgin and sent them to her local bishop, who passed them on to the pope to be revealed in 1960.

The mysterious Third Secret of Fatima, however, supposedly contained such awful revelations it was suppressed, making the popes who read it turn white. It has become the subject of much fierce speculation by the devout. During his pilgrimage in May 2000, Pope John Paul II promised to released it, and apparently has, although the Vatican was not slow to put its own spin on it.

The Lady, identifying herself as “Our Lady of the Rosary,” asked believers to pray for the conversion of Russia. A countless legion of little old ladies diligently took up their beads, even calling themselves the “Blue Army of Mary.” After several apparently unsuccessful attempts, the pope, (by this time John Paul II), finally completed the powerful magical act of consecrating Russia to the Sacred Heart of Mary in 1984, several reigns later than asked, and in due course Soviet Communism fell.

Whether co-incidence or not, the whole question of the Lady’s instructions and prophecies in this context is peculiar. If these were purely spiritual events, why did they look and sound so much like UFOs? If the entity were a masquerading alien trying to communicate to some primitives in the guise of a god, why would it be so concerned about prayer, self-sacrifice and Russia’s religion? Could that just be a cover for some other agenda?

Or was it truly providential? Could all those prayers for Russia have somehow prevented planetary nuclear immolation? Was it foreseen? Looking back on the Cold War and how close East and West came to mutually assured destruction at times, one can only wonder if the events at Fatima were carefully arranged to miraculously avert it.

(In all fairness, it should also be noted that the brutal Spanish conquistadors came as Catholics and fought under the Virgin’s banner. A decade after their triumph over the Aztecs, putting an end to their gory civilization based on human sacrifice and ritual cannibalism, she made a dramatic appearance to Juan Diego, an Indian (and recently, a saint), as the Virgin of Guadalupe. Her veneration quickly supplanted the now-discredited native religion and became the most widely-popular devotion in the New World. Mary, it seems, may have a more complicated agenda than just world peace.)

In any case, once again the combination of spirituality with what could be highly advanced technology at Fatima is baffling. As Sir Arthur Clarke is widely reported to have said, “Technology sufficiently developed is indistinguishable from magic.” Maybe he should have said religion.

Part of the problem, it seems, is that there cannot be a real distinction between ufology and theology, spirituality and technology, any more here at the dawn of the third millennium after Christ. Perhaps there never truly was, other than the arbitrary rift between faith and reason that was created by the Church to maintain her monopoly on a superior form of “truth” beyond mere scientific fact.

Unfortunately for us, the aliens seem to have no respect for this human pigeonholing of reality. The incomprehensible facts of divine and/or extraterrestrial visitation exceed our spirituality as much as they do our technology.

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Notes
[1] Downing, Barry H., The Bible and Flying Saucers, Avon Books, New York, 1968. Back

[2] Athanasius, St. Antony of the Desert, trans. by J. B. McLaughlin, TAN Books and Publishers, Rockford, Ill., 1995, p. 16. Back

[3] Otherwise unattributed quotes in this section are from Our Lady of Fatima: Queen of the Most Holy Rosary, published by the Benedictine Convent of Perpetual Adoration, Clyde, Missouri, 1950. Back

[4] Vallee, Jacques, UFO’s in Space: Anatomy of a Phenomenon, Ballantine Books, New York, 1965, p. 205. Back

[5] Ibid., p.207. Back
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Messengers from Heaven
Extraterrestrials, the Church, and the Fate of Humanity
Part I: Extraterrestrial Demonology
The admission by the Vatican that extraterrestrials exist has profound implications for all Earthlings.
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Until recently, the accumulated wisdom of the Roman Catholic Church held that only supernatural entities such as God, Jesus and Mary, angels or demons produced signs in the heavens. However, in the last several years, a new view has been quietly put forth, one that could foreshadow as revolutionary a change as that initiated by Copernicus.


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The Inquisitor and the aliens
Monsignor Corrado Balducci, a recently-retired theologian who specialized in demonology and exorcism for the Vatican, has appeared on Italian TV several times declaring that contact with extraterrestrials is real. He has stated these entities “are NOT demonic, they are NOT due to psychological impairment, they are NOT a case of entity attachment, but these encounters deserve to be studied carefully.” (Emphasis in original.)

“Their existence can no longer be denied, for there is too much evidence for the existence of extra-terrestrials and flying saucers.” UFOs indicate that they might be more evolved than humanity, but would not challenge the core of Christianity, for Christ is still king of the universe. “This means that everything in the universe, including extra-terrestrials and UFOs are reconcilable with God.”

Since then, he has tried to calm the furor and spike the rumors floating around the Internet. According to one source, he claims there is no “secret Vatican commission on ET contact” studying the problem (though another says he privately admits to a pontifical MJ12), and that Holy See’s embassies and nuncios do not collect information on contacts. He has said he is not studying the subject, nor that he spoke for the Vatican. His more recent statements emphasize a lot of “ifs” like “IF THEY EXIST and IF WE EVER MAKE CONTACT with them, they MIGHT well be beings superior to us as of spirituality. IF THAT IS TRUE, a contact might even be desirable for us.” (Emphasis in original)

Yet even so, he has cordially met with noted researcher Michael Hesemann, author/abductee Whitley Strieber, who has included an interview with him in his new book, Confirmation, and even Zecharia Sitchin, a scholar who believes humanity was created by an alien race, thought by the Sumerians to be gods, as their slaves.

It is gratifying that four centuries after burning Giordano Bruno for impudently suggesting that the stars around us were solar systems peopled with living worlds, the Roman Church has finally seen fit to admit the possibility, at least tacitly. Still the question must be raised: Why? Does the Catholic Church possess new information, or is this positioning just in case there ever is a landing? And why is it being discussed now, by a demonologist who, according to one report, worked for the Congregation for the Propagation of the Doctrine of the Faith, which used to be called the Holy Office of the Inquisition?


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A cosmic crapshoot
If an advanced race does land on Earth, they could easily be taken as divine messengers. After all, if they are older and unimaginably technologically more sophisticated than we are, then perhaps they are more spiritually advanced as well (whatever that means). They might even claim to be so, with or without any justification. Combined with magical-seeming powers, their “revelations” and starry wisdom would doubtless be eagerly devoured by uncritical Earthlings, who will have no way of knowing what the visitors say is objectively true or just a yarn to con us gullible natives. Judging by our own sad history of contact between different cultures by frauds, fanatics, conquistadors and missionaries, the outlook for any human religion is grim indeed.

Even if the aliens’ message is all sweetness and light, it will inevitably be colored by their otherworldly perceptions and psychology, intentions and agendas. But any alien belief is especially dangerous for any faith such as the Roman Catholic Church that proudly claims to the sole custodian and arbiter of revealed truth. For even if the aliens’ intentions are totally benign, even if they do not directly contradict the teachings of Christianity, the new knowledge will probably have devastating and unpredictable effects. What will become of the authority of the priests if a new authority comes along with a superior brand of truth?

It’s happened to the Church before. As world religions go, Christianity in general has had a less than glorious track record overall in accepting new ideas. Fundamentalists, with their bedrock belief in the inerrancy of the Bible and the absolute historicity of the Old Testament, in particular have problems with this. The antiquated scholastic theology that the Roman Catholic Church still stubbornly clings to has likewise never really recovered from the pummeling it received from Darwin and Copernicus either.

This has caused a spit between faith and reason, a profound kind of schizophrenia in the Western spirit that leaves both soul and intellect unfulfilled. Worse, this disconnection now threatens the very viability of our civilization. Yet, it is precisely those questions of human origins and our place in the cosmos where extraterrestrial contact may radically challenge our most closely held beliefs.

Many Christians, especially fundamentalists, regard UFOs and aliens as demons in disguise, out to deceive the children of God in these last days. Websites such as Watcher Website offer ominous warnings against the visitors from the sky. They vigorously reject any truck with aliens, and there is much to be said for their interpretation. But its inclusiveness, reassuring to those with a traditional outlook, the opposite of the New Age wide-open welcome of all from beyond is also dangerous. For as we shall see, good things can come from the sky as well.

We must practice discernment above all. In this context, it is even more interesting that a Catholic theologian says they are not demons. Balducci is a professional demonologist, backed by all the expertise dealing with occult phenomena developed by pastors, theologians and exorcists. He uses their technical terminology in discussing his conclusions. But if UFOs are not evil spirits, manifestations of insanity, or “entity attachments,” what are they? Angels?

As disembodied spiritual beings, could not angels be safely ruled out, seeing that some of these damned things leave physical traces? Also, angels are supposedly much more concerned about humanity’s welfare than most of the UFOnauts that encounter people seem to be. In the New Testament, for instance, the first words angels always seem to say is “Fear not.” There are certain contactee cases with very human-looking beings where this also has happened, but whether the physically active angels in the Bible were aliens will be discussed in the next section.

But if they’re not demons or angels, and since Catholicism leaves little theoretical room for “neutral” spirits, perhaps what Balducci is getting at is that these entities are physical beings, with bodies of some kind. His other statements about other “children of God” in the cosmos definitely imply that.

It is a cosmic **** for anybody, especially the Church, to make dogmatic pronouncements about visitors from outer space at this time. Maybe the monsignor is simply covering Rome’s bets. But his statements represent both an opportunity and a danger. The stakes are incalculably high. At risk is nothing less than the future of the human soul. If the Church guesses wrong about these visitors from beyond, it could not only lose all credibility but could even imperil the survival of the human race.

After all, great civilizations have been destroyed on just such an issue. The fall of the Aztec Empire in the early sixteenth century is a perfect example.

The god-king Montezuma believed his priestly experts’ interpretations of prophecy and signs seen in the heavens, and was amazed by the unmatchable technology of steel, guns, and horses wielded by his visitors. Imagine how history would be different if he knew from the start that Cortez was not the divine Quetzalcoatl returned to his people, but just a foreign marauder intent on despoiling his realm. Yet, despite his own misgivings, Montezuma reluctantly welcomed the conquistadors as divine messengers. It was a fatal mistake for him and his empire and all Mexico. Almost the identical scenario was played out in the Incan capital in South America by other conquistadors a few decades later, dooming Andean civilizations as well.

Whether this mistake could happen to us depends on the strange connections between spirituality and the sky that lurk in the soul’s most profound depths. Upon that mystery, most human religions seem to have been founded — including Judaism and Christianity. For Christians, the burning question posed at this juncture is not just whether Yahweh is an extraterrestrial, but is his Son? Is Jesus an ET? And if so what does it mean?
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Jennie, I came across this article in my researches that I thought might be of use to you. At first, I couldn't decide whether to put it in your topic or mine, so I'll be printing the first half in yours, second half in mine. It has a sexual bent to it, but also involves your Nordic aliens. Apologies for the length. Hope all is well.

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UFO Abductions Through The Ages
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UFO Abductions Through The Ages
part 1 of 2
by Dr. Gregory L. Little - 1994

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The abduction stories form a continuum with old legends and beliefs ...They do contain a message ...given to us by the hidden parts of our being.
-- John Rimmer - (The Evidence for Alien Abductions - 1984)

Once upon a midnight dreary, while I pondered, weak and weary, Over many a quaint and curious volume of forgotten lore - While I nodded, nearly napping, suddenly there came a tapping, As of someone gently rapping, rapping at my chamber door.
-- Edgar Allan Poe - (The Raven)

"We stepped into the fringe of reality," Karla Turner replied to a questioner -- after relating her incredible story to an immense group at the 1992 Ozark UFO Conference. "Our book comes from my journal that I kept (about these events)."

Karla [now deceased; a victim of the insidious cancer many "abductees" mysteriously succumb to -B:.B:.], who holds a Ph.D. in English, hypnotized her husband Casey in the mid-1980s to attempt to find the source of Casey's anxiety and tension. Casey, a computer software consultant, had been seeing a therapist at the time and was suffering with a variety of nervous problems. What they found in the hypnosis was not what they expected.

Casey had numerous memories of alien contact -- sexual contact. One of his earliest memories was a white-haired, old woman appearing in his bedroom when he was 13 years old. She had a deeply wrinkled face and deep, piercing eyes. Unable to resist, he had sexual intercourse with her. Casey also recalled other times that creatures entered his bedroom and forced him to have sex. One such experience left him with claw marks on his back, while another incident in 1987 resulted in a painful scar on the back of his leg.

Interaction with the abductors wasn't limited to Casey. Karla told of walking into her home at night when a being grabbed hold of her arm. The creature told her it was her mother, but Karla stated that it looked like a giant grasshopper. Another time, Karla was coming home through her back yard when she felt like she "had hit an electric fence. I wasn't feeling right... wasn't moving right ...there was a glow everywhere ...I stopped... and saw four gray beings standing side by side in my backyard."

"I assumed I was having a hallucination (but) I'm awake -- why? I felt I could see through them and they talked to me telepathically."

"Greetings, we are your ancestors," they said. "We are a part of you, but we are real."

"I couldn't move as I normally do," Karla continued. "Then two females behind me came up close -- they started buzzing."

"They are giving you some instructions," they told me.

Karla and Casey have become involved with a variety of MUFON investigators since the uncovering of their memories as well as conducting a variety of their own investigations. They have somewhat specialized in sexual abductions and been influenced by the popular books Intruders, Missing Time, and others. Karla told a story about a grandmother with her young grandson. The grandmother had been a widow for several years when she was forced to drink a liquid handed to her by an alien who appeared in her bedroom late one night.

After she drank the thick fluid, she became young again. A reptilian-like alien then attempted to have intercourse with her but she resisted. Then the alien brought in her dead husband who began making sexual advances to her. The grandmother had intercourse with the creature that appeared as her husband, but eventually saw that it was a reptilian. After finishing with the grandmother, the reptilians had anal and oral intercourse with her young grandson.

At the 1992 Ozark UFO Convention, cattle mutilation expert Linda Moulton Howe also focused on sexual abduction stories. She told a story about one man who had become so plagued by a particular female alien coming to him each night that he repeatedly masturbated before sleeping so that he would have trouble getting an **** when the aliens appeared. This so disturbed the female alien and her mantis-like "keepers" that they made an agreement with the man. Howe stated that the aliens are probably collecting genetic material from cattle and humans.

In discussing how the beings appear, Howe said that "the air itself is like a curtain they can go behind." They come out of "tears in the air."

The "modern" aliens associated with sexual abductions now appear to fall into three broad categories. The traditional grays are nearly always present. Male grays seldom engage in intercourse, but some female grays do. The grays often connect bizarre devices to the sex organs of abductees and insert needles in an apparent attempt to collect sperm and ovum samples. Then there are the more sinister creatures described as reptilian, grasshopper-like, or mantis-like. These creatures, whose sexual organs are described as ice cold, often have intercourse with humans. Finally, there are creatures that, except for their dress, would be indistinguishable from humans. They are sometimes described as Nordic in appearance -- tall blondes with blue eyes. These abductors have, at times, had intercourse with abductees. All of the appearances taken on by abductors appear to be fluid and plastic; that is, they can easily change their shape to whatever they wish.

Aileen Garoutte, director of the abductee support organization UFOCCI, has interviewed and used regression hypnosis on numerous abductees who have claimed sexual contact with the aliens. One couple was abducted during a drive between Princeton and Penticton in British Columbia, Canada. Two hours of missing time occurred during their trip that was later "remembered" as a "classic" abduction. Both were given a special drink, medical exams, and had sexual encounters with the aliens. The woman became pregnant as a result of the abduction though she had been using two different types of birth control. After their abduction she had spots on her body over her ovaries and her husband had a ring of spots across his groin. Literally dozens of similar stories have been uncovered by UFOCCI.

Sexual Abduction Experiences Aren't New

Space Alien Sex Maniacs in Training

Baby Space Aliens hone their Tantric Skills from young infancy by isolating a nubile young earth woman and looking up her dress. As teenagers they perform house-calls in order to take turns nailing their brainwashed and subservient squeeze. "Earth women are easy," they remark.

Given the current intense interest in alien sexual encounters, many people seem to feel that such reports are relatively recent. They aren't. Sexual encounters with alien abductors are not new to ufology. On October 15, 1957, 23-year old farmer Antonio Boas was plowing a field at his farm near Minas Gerais in Brazil. It was night as Boas was trying to catch up on the plowing. Looking up into the sky, Boas saw a brightly lit red object descending from the sky. It was his third UFO sighting that week. This time, however, the object landed in his field. Out of the egg-shaped object came four aliens fitted in metallic space suits with helmets.

As the creatures glided toward him, Boas tried to escape on the tractor, but it stalled. Boas jumped off and started running. A few moments later he was captured and dragged into the spaceship. There he was taken into a circular room where he was restrained while one of the creatures took a blood and skin sample from his chin. Then he was stripped and moved to another room where only a white, plastic couch sat in the center of the room. His body was sponged with a clear, oily liquid and then the four creatures left.

A few moments later clouds of gray smoke filled the room causing Boas to vomit. Then a hidden slit opened in the wall through which a beautiful, naked, alien woman walked. She had blond- white hair parted in the middle, large blue eyes, thin lips, high, prominent cheekbones, and a pointed chin. She was under five feet tall. Boas clearly remembered her blood-red pubic hair and her well-separated, pointy breasts.

The female began rubbing her body against Boas and he quickly embraced her. According to Boas they had intercourse two times during which the alien barked and growled like an animal. After the second time she got off the couch and walked to the hidden door. She pointed to her stomach and then to the sky. Then she walked out.

Moments later two of the space suited aliens returned with his clothes. He dressed and was given a tour of the ship after which he was released.

In the month that followed his encounter, Boas became ill with symptoms similar to radiation sickness. In addition, small purplish wounds developed on his hands.

In his book The Ufonauts, Hans Holzer related the May 2,1968 abduction of teenager Shane Kurz. Under regression hypnosis Ms. Kurz told of being abducted while walking through a field and being levitated into a saucer. Inside the saucer several gray aliens placed her on a table, stripped her, and rubbed a thick liquid on her. She was told that the liquid was a stimulant and that she was being tested for pregnancy with a device that was lowered on her. Then the leader told her that they wanted to make a "half" with her. One of the beings quickly sexually penetrated her. He made animal sounds and a humming noise during the act. Kurz was then released. Shortly after this incident (which she did not remember at the time) her menstrual period stopped for a year. She had a sudden, unexplained weight loss exactly 9 months after her abduction. It was the weight loss that led her to a doctor and eventually uncover the memory of the abduction.

Budd Hopkins' Intruders (1987) and Missing Time (1981) are filled with distinctively sexual abductions. And if you don't look at the long-term perspective of the phenomenon, it is easy to be misled into thinking the sexual abductions are a recent happening:

"Intruders makes what appears to be happening in UFO abductions more clear. Genetic experimentation is being conducted on unwilling human subjects by an extraterrestrial civilization far different from our own....Through the process of interbreeding, the technology involved in producing test tube babies, and cloning, they are producing a hybrid race." (Little, 1990)

But appearances can be deceiving

Abductions Through The Ages

Mothman-like Appearances and Witches

A renaissance woodcut depicting a woman beating off the advances of a demon (left) and an interesting illustration (right) from Glanvill's Saducismus Triumphatus (1863). UFO-like abductions and alien sexual encounters are nothing new. Witches supposedly were taken into the air for meetings with the devil. People who had been abducted by fairies were left with distinctive body scars similar to those in UFO abductees. And the incubus and succubus of medieval times did the exact same things to their abductees as today's sexually-inclined aliens do to their abductees.

According to fairy lore, fairies create a circular cluster of small bruises as their mark. The phenomenon is known as "fairy bruising" and is a sign of either favor or disfavor. The ring of bruises is often found around the genitals. They did this, according to various 17th century accounts, by pinching their victims:

If lustie Doll, maide of the Dairie, Chance to be blew-nipt by the fairie. Marston's Mountebanks Masque

An Encyclopedia of Fairies (Briggs, 1976) gives numerous ancient examples of fairy abductions. Almost always a special drink was given to the abductee. This drink, usually described as a thick liquid, was an essential part of the fairy abduction. Women are abducted much more often than men and some fairies take special delight, in repeatedly capturing women for amorous motives. In short, some fairies simply liked having sexual relations with mortals.

Fairies abduct their victims through paralysis; then they simply carry (levitate and fly) the abductee away into "fairyland." Fairyland is always nearby; under normal conditions we can't see or perceive it. The paralysis induced on the victim is how fairies get their abductee to enter fairyland. The modem word "stroke" (meaning paralysis) is derived from the ancient terms "elf-stroke" and "fairy-stroke." Fairies travel in circular globes of light, sometimes called "will-o-the-wisp."

There are so many different types of fairies that going through them would be tedious. Some of them, however, are virtually indistinguishable from what have been described as demons. One particular type, the "bogie," looks a lot like the traditional bigfoot. Virtually every society has some lore of these "little people" and myths of them forcing their sexual attentions on human victims.

Fairy lore has a tradition of thousands of years. Fairies have been said to be abducting humans, human babies, flying in lighted globes, striking paralysis and amnesia on their victims, forcing strange drink on their victims, and having sexual relations with humans for all time. If we could remove the mythological aspect from fairy abductions and dress them a little differently, the folklore reports of a thousand years ago would be virtually indistinguishable from present UFO abduction reports. The same thing could be said for the reports of demons.

An Relatively Holy Correspondence Table: Old vs. New

On the left are artist renderings of the creatures associated with the famous 1955 Kelley-Hopkinsville, Kentucky UFO goblin case (reprinted from People of the Web). The two figures on the right are from Collin de Plancy's Dictionnaire infernal (1863). The figure on the left is Ronwe, a demon with language knowledge. The figure on the right is Urobach, a demon from the lower order.

As my eyes fell on the demon drawings in Plancy's Dictionaire infernal (1863), I was struck by their similarity to the famous 1955 Kelly-Hopkinsville UFO case. Imagine the demons as gray in color, and they would also fit the description of the ubiquitous grays in recent abductions.

There are many in the UFO field (as well as various religious leaders) who believe that the creatures associated with UFOs are demons. The similarity of some demons to the grays of UFO reports are probably no coincidence.

"UFO" Abductee?

One of the first known illustrations of a demon appearing in physical form to "make love" to a witch. Note the feet and hands of the demon. It was said that the demons could assume any shape to make themselves more pleasing to their victims. From Ulrich Molitor's De Laniis et phitonicis mulieribus (1489). Note that the book contains numerous illustrations of demons taking different shapes and forms for sexual purposes.


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Gee, Veronica, thanks for putting that great alien porno story on my nice clean alien thread!
Here is more information on the Nordics, scouring the Internet to bring y'all the best I can find. Live long and prosper.
http://www.delta-green.com/opint/reports/rf_3047a.html

NORDICS
(a.k.a. MUFON Type 2 aliens, Blondes, Pleiadeans, Sirians, Venusians)

APPEARANCE: Nordics are described as tall and athletic, with blonde or red hair. Almost 90% of Nordics encountered have been male. In most cases, Nordics are described as having intense presences or odd mannerisms which betray their origins.

MOTIVES: The salvation of humanity and of planet Earth, whether from the Grays, nuclear war, environmental disaster, or overpopulation.

ABILITIES: The Nordics are alleged to be telepathic. There are reports of Nordics sensing the approach of contactees telepathically, influencing emotional states via thought projection, transmitting thoughts directly to contactees, and inducing paralysis through eye contact when threatened. The Nordics are also allegedly capable of either invisibility or teleportation, according to many accounts in which they vanish into thin air.

CALLING CARDS: Nordics are often reported to be associated with odd weather disturbances, especially patches of fog or mist and drafts of cold air. Most contactees report a warm feeling of calm and inner peace when in a Nordic's presence.

BEHAVIOR: Unlike most other ETs, Nordics are reported as being benevolent, and eager to engage contactees in conversation. A typical Nordic will begin by saying that he is there to help, and will then give a description of his home. Whether he comes from Venus, Sirius, the Pleiades, or Tsath, the descriptions are basically the same: the Nordic homeworld is allegedly a place of peace and harmony, where the people have at last rid themselves of all the ills of life through high technology and higher consciousness. Most claim to be immortal. The Nordic then affirms that he (and others of his kind) have come to help lead mankind back from the edge of the abyss and into a new golden age. Many Nordics are also often described as warning contactees about secret pacts between the U.S. government and the Grays, and warn them to avoid the men in black.

CONCLUSIONS: Reports of Encounters with alleged Nordics are as old as the UFO phenomenon itself. However, few cases involving Nordics stand up to hard investigation, and most are entirely unsubstantiated. Nordics leave little evidence of their passing, and often aren't even associated with a spacecraft of UFO. Alleged encounters with Nordics also bear striking resemblances to encounters with angelic figures in the Bible or Koran, as well as Celtic legends of Sidhe or Fey folk. Perhaps the Nordics are a modern reworking of these myths incorporating our contemporary conceptions of space and alien life. Another possibility: might the Nordics be part of a disinformation campaign designed to distract and discredit UFO investigators? The telepathic influence of the Nordics could also be the product of hypnosis, drugs, or other technological tricks. Are the Nordics part of the cover up, perhaps the Men in White?



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QUOTE :"Here is more information on the Nordics, scouring the Internet to bring y'all the best I can find. Live long and prosper. http://www.delta-green.com/opint/reports/rf_3047a.html TE : "
if thats ` the best you can find ` i reccomend giving up now ,

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Well, just spent time looking thru a link on page 1 of this thread about red haired giants ... ancient remains in North America.
And it brought to mind two stories.

First one: Once I met this guy in Wal-Mart parking lot recently and we chatted cuz his pick up truck's rear door panel had this beautifully painted eagle in flight. Turns out he was a genuine "local", having grown up in this area of east coastal Florida in the Depression era of the 1920's and 1930's. (a period in Florida's history that was way before the massive explosion of condo's, high rises, shopping centers and tourist traps) We were talking on and on then he relates how when he was a kid, him and his buddies would wander the vacant landscape, tearing down the mounds of dirt cuz they knew there were "stuff" to play with burried inside like giant bones - he specifically says they were huge compared to like his dad in size. He says they could do this destruction because no one cared. Decades later, all the lands here have been plowed over, either for cattle grazing, orange groves or suburbia.

Second story: women of documented historical antiquity would dye their hair red or blond as a status symbol. A woman's hair color was her rank, the highest rank being the red's and blond's. Some societies conversly would kill red or blond haired children.

An as an aside, toddlers and preschoolers today who have pure red and/or pure blond hair are more frequently ill with colds, more prone to digestive problems, allergies, appear to have difficulty in peer relations (hot headed or aggressive), and generally are less well adjusted socially to conforming to the "rules" than their classmates of brown and black hair. Reds and blonds are more spontaneous, generally are more boisterous, and laugh and cry more, too. Perhaps these traits that have come down from antiquity through these toddler's and preschoolers ancestors' DNA were the reasons why they were once the tribes "leaders of the Pack."

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