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« Reply #405 on: February 03, 2008, 11:06:10 pm »

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Yes H.P. Blavatsky and other mediums told that... But is that real ? In fact you know manything, Briwnys... So do you think that those Nordic aliens described by some people who where addicted, as they said, have something to do with Hyperboreans ?

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« Reply #406 on: February 03, 2008, 11:06:32 pm »

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« Reply #407 on: February 03, 2008, 11:06:54 pm »

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Interesting !

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« Reply #408 on: February 03, 2008, 11:07:15 pm »

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The Pleiades are also a group in Greek mythology who bear little resemblance to Nordic aliens.
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« Reply #409 on: February 03, 2008, 11:07:40 pm »

 
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« Reply #410 on: February 03, 2008, 11:08:13 pm »

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Almost all of the stars presently in the Local Anomaly (or Bubble) are just passing through, coursing randomly past each other as they make their way around the galaxy. The Solar System is presently expected to move out of this Local Anomaly in about 50,000 years. There are other branches of the Anomaly that may intersect ours before then but I suspect this was the event our ancestors saw as Fimbulwinter.

Some of the star systems within the Anomaly appear to move in tandem with each other and are called Superclusters. There are three major Superclusters within 500 light years of the solar system: The Hyades, The Pleiades, and very close to us, The Sirius Supercluster. These Superclusters contain hundreds of very young stars, some as young as 70 million years.

Sirius is the fifth closest system to the sun, at 8.6 light-years away. Sirius B exploded about 124 +/- 5 million years ago, long before The Pleiades explosions formed the Local Anomaly. It is now a white dwarf and the companion to Sirius A. Any planet orbiting Sirius A would have to withstand heavy bombardment from Sirius B. The Sirius Supercluster, however, produces the same tunneling effect as does The Pleiades.

I personally do not know if there have been physical visitations by beings from these stars because they are very young, which is why I said that intelligence was transmitted to us from the Pleiades and Orion’s Belt within the last 14 million years.

Certainly, there have been other neutron stellar explosions and other transmissions, but if physical entities have visited the earth, they were either from older stellar systems or other dimensions.

The stories that Sirius is the center of a vast confederation persist, and the physics of that system certainly indicate that something very strange occurs within its neighborhood. Remember, I said in reference to Sirius, "that fluctuations of gravitational waves in space-time indicate the probability that numerous states - and possibly dimensions - exist simultaneously"? The Hyperboreans were described as "semi-transparent", and this indicates to me the possibility that they originated in another continuum or in an area of space vastly different from our own.

The Atlantic Modal Haplotype (AMH) people of the European Western Facade are identified as the Welsh, Irish, Orcadian, Basque, Sami and Aesti. The Sami and Aesti came from the Baltic region and were probably the first Nordic people.

The Aesti were likely the first to practice cultivation. They owned the hereditary right to gather and trade Baltic amber, which is found in a vast formation called “Blue Earth”. Blue Earth is actually green due to the inclusion of Glauconite in the clay. This is a natural potash mineral, an important source of plant nutrients and soil conditioners that enhance agricultural productivity. The original hunter-gatherers who summered in the Baltic began first to collect the magical amber gems they called the golden apples of the sun and later turned to agriculture when they found that the earth in which amber “grew” could increase crop yields and provide them with an abundant food supply. This is why the dust of amber was called “Ambrosia”, the food of the gods.

The gene responsible for red hair, fair skin and freckles first appeared in northwestern Europe among these people. White skin is a mutation generally associated with the change from the heavy meat diet of hunter-gatherers to one of grains and vegetables by a settled, agrarian people. Without the heavy consumption of animal fat, darker skinned people cannot absorb enough vitamin D from sunlight in the northern latitudes to maintain their health. On the other hand, white skin allows the assimilation of Vitamin D, which in turn boosts calcium absorption, prevents psoriasis, osteoporosis, breast and prostate cancer.

In women, the mutation that causes red hair also produces a higher pain threshold. In most people, the melanocortin-1 gene produces a protein that reduces the efficacy of opiate drugs, but redheaded women have a non-functional mutation of the gene so natural and artificial painkillers work unhindered. The painkilling effect is three times greater for redheaded women than for blondes, brunettes, or men, though differences in the way male and female brains process pain may explain the gender inconsistency.

In a primitive society, women who were stronger, healthier and more capable of bearing pain could carry more children to term and participate in activities like hunting and war. Their value would place them at the pinnacle of society, insuring that their genes were spread throughout the population and explain the worship of goddesses of childbearing, hunting and war. The Aesti were the first of the Nordic people to worship a diety known as the Mother of the Gods.

All of this is consistant with the legends of the Hyperboreans, so, yes, Diansyl, operating on the premise that there are aliens and there are Hyperboreans, the Nordic aliens would have something to do with the Hyperboreans - but nothing to do with the Greeks, Luke. We are not speaking of the myth of the Pleiades, only the stars identified by that name.

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« Reply #411 on: February 03, 2008, 11:08:54 pm »

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This is actually interesting. Hindu scripture says there are other humans in the universe Shocked Huh

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« Reply #412 on: February 03, 2008, 11:10:00 pm »

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Briwnys,

RE: "The Hyperboreans were described as a race living in the far North, in a tropical pocket near the North Pole surrounded by mountains of ice. They were reputed to be semi-transparent when they first appeared on earth. Circumstances forced them to move among other humans, and they interbred with them."
"The Aesti were likely the first to practice cultivation. They owned the hereditary right to gather and trade Baltic amber"
"The gene responsible for red hair, fair skin and freckles first appeared in northwestern Europe among these people. White skin is a mutation generally associated with the change from the heavy meat diet of hunter-gatherers to one of grains and vegetables by a settled, agrarian people"

The Bock saga explains that the Aser survived throughout the span of Ice-time in the space created between the glacial ice formed by the flow of the warm Gulf-stream which flowed past the Gulf of Finland and across what is now Carelian Finland/Russia and on into the White Sea and Arctic Sea. They were Ice-olated for millions of years there and thus developed the pale skin, blond/red hair and blue/green eyes, and most importantly, extreme height, all of which bowled over the rest of humanity when they emerged and "first appeared on earth" around 9,000 years ago.

Easy to see why these golden haired "Shining Ones" were thought to be transparent!

Science has for a long time trying to nail down the cause for caucasianism, and the extreme isolation explanation is possibly the only one to really hold water. Proofs of this isolation are now being discovered over the past decade and a half.(Suisola-the Wolf Cave in Finland, and the Pechora Project in Siberia)

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« Reply #413 on: February 03, 2008, 11:10:30 pm »

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We would be incredibly stupid if we believed we were the only humanoid life form in the universe.

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« Reply #414 on: February 03, 2008, 11:11:14 pm »

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Originally posted by Briwnys:
We would be incredibly stupid if we believed we were the only humanoid life form in the universe.
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I do know that we are not the only "humanoid" life form in the universe. I was merely pointing out a logical way to look at the Hyperboreans.

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rockessence,

The Bock saga is only one of several family traditions. They are not all the same but are quite similar when analyzed by content. They do all point to an origin in the north. "(They)... were more shadow than substance when (they)... first came into this world," says one tradition, refering to the Shining Ones. That they were both shadow and shining would indicate that they existed in an intermediate state that was difficult to describe in human language.

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Sorry, the "humanoid" statement was in reply to nekozuki, not you.

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Originally posted by Briwnys:
The Bock saga is only one of several family traditions. They are not all the same but are quite similar when analyzed by content. They do all point to an origin in the north. "(They)... were more shadow than substance when (they)... first came into this world," says one tradition, refering to the Shining Ones. That they were both shadow and shining would indicate that they existed in an intermediate state that was difficult to describe in human language.

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In studying the Bock saga, the Oera Linde papers and others, it appears that the Bock family saga, because of it's delineating the history of the Asers (the royal line)back to the origin of humanity, it would seem to be "original core information" whereas the Oera Linde material and others, are clearly records of outlying branches (Vaner). The Bock information is the only one which explains the history behind the other's recognition of "gods/goddesses", and tells how these humans became later to be observed as "gods".

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« Reply #418 on: February 03, 2008, 11:13:25 pm »

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Perhaps the most important significance of the Bocksaga is that it is kept by the very same people, in the same language and within the same culture that once came to populate the arctic hemisphere.

As the arctic population used to be VERY limited -during the eonic ice-time - we know that both the arctic nature; plants, animals and people alike - spread from a common origin - to form the various branches of the arctic civilisation.

From the old world we may still define the Eurasian continent in two different cultures - as the Fenno-Ugrian and Slavonic branches covers the eastern (Asian) part of Eurasia, while the Scandinavian and the German languages still covers western Europe.

Due to the meridianial connections between north abd south we may easily trace the co-relation between the Fenno-Ugrian and the Greek cultures, while a similar co-relation developed between the German and the Latin culture, - where the southern cultures gain dominance as the "Grylic" respectively "Latin" languages.

Finally the western developed the English language, as a synthesis of the Tropical priciple - in the Latin form format of French - and the old Arctical form - in the Celtic form of Norse tongue. The result seems to be a language that all people of this planet - aboriginals as eskimos - are able to learn. Not only to understand it - but also to get the pronounciation rigth, to be able to speak their mind and express themselves satisfactorily.

Beginning with the alphabeth this Finnish family-saga can give an exact description of process that made the eastern languages and the western languages - both arctic and tropic - to develop as they did. Starting with the capabilities of the human organs and mind it also explains how the different culture and etnicities of humankind developed their respecitve characteristics.

Last but not least the Bock-saga is able to explain the basic issues of all the other sagas and mythologies that are known to us. Down to the nitty-gritty of the human brain and ear, the sounds and the basic associations that connects to the 29 basic sounds in the Eurasian alphabeth.

As no other saga-material this Bocksaga is litterally capabel of describing out mythological past down to the very letter - of scientific history. Thus it also explains the location of the very origin of the arctic world - born in isolation from all tropical life - within the Baltic Ocean during ice-time. The first and oldest group of this arctic population seems to have lived in Finland - DURING ice-time already - from where they came sailing - palefaced - to reconnect with the tropical civilisations, as of 10.000 years ago.

Since then they have always existed - as a bilingual culture - in the land later called "Hyper Borea". Genetically they are still there, - since nobody cared to populate the cold and harsh north, other than the caucasian population already existing - in the Botnic Ocean.

As modern genetics confirm; the Finn and the Scandinavian gene-pools seems to have stayed un-touched (un-mixed) for the last 10.000 years. So has the Scandinavian and the Fenno-Ugrian languages too, respectively. Thus it becomes very interesting to follow the thread onwards - as we discover that the population still inhabitting the Finnish south-coast - where the very oldest traces of human beings have been traced substatially MORE than 120.000 years back in time.

Another remarkable coincidence is the age of the Scandinavian languages. The dialect still spoken on Gotland, as well as in the shores of northern Sweden and Finland - is supposed to be the oldest of the Scandinavian languages. Which in turn is the oldest of all the remaining languages of Europe. Besides Finnish.

It is more than funny that the eastern location of this dialect seems to originate from Gotland and the coasts of Finland. At this cultural brim we may still today find bi-lingual populations - speaking both Fenno-Ugrian and Scandinavian. Today we have to face the possibility that BOTH these languages came from the one and same group of ice-time refugees from the Baltics. Thus it is more than interesting that the present population of Fenno-Scandia clearly defines their toungue as "The Root Language" (Rotsinkeli).

According to the saga this is the "homeland" of the "Aser" - apparently an old name for the small family-group that survived ice-time, before escaping to the island of Gotland - from where they started to spread east and west, populating all of the arctic hemisphere. Meanwhile their envoys finally could reach and reunite with their long, lost relatives down south - that the Saga desacribe as "The Ten Kings and The Ten Kingdoms of the Tropics".

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Anyone know where I can get a link to the Oera Linda Book online? Be interesting to read the alternative history it presents there.
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