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« Reply #915 on: January 02, 2008, 02:46:12 pm »

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 HELLO, I forgot your name,

"Atlantis"in Brief:
For what it may be worth:"Atlantis" was an landbased Atoll that, after an EarthQuake subsided into a Tombolo.

 Plato wrote in a pre-Hellenic dialect that when mis-quoted seemingly pointed to America as "Atlantis"location.

 The Greeks migrated from Atlantis(=ADEN.) and renamed the 9 greek,main Rivers after Atlantis originals, meanwhile "Atlantis"was demonised in memory thus these 9 Rivers are said to be the 9 rivers from Hades(= thus (H-)aden.)

When KingAtlas(= Poseidon.) lefrt that Peninsular Volcano he made Greece the {"topographical)"Mirror of Atlantis

The Oikumene or World Ocean"of Chronos"and the "(4)Pillars of Chronos; later the (2) Pillars of Hercules are the Pylons(=TEmpletowers of egyptian general Horemheb.)at bab el mandab in the Gulf-of-Chronos"or presently"ADEN"

In my "BlueHue"theory Plato's 25 reference-Points into Atlantis location used by the 2005 Melos Conference were corrupted by latin Geographers using Latin Geo-Names whilst the original spoke of Punician Coasts before those damned Punicians entered the Mediterranean -Seas!

Thus Ras-ADEN-Crater was Atlantis as a former Crater Kingdom I have written 8MB treatise called the Atlantis king-List database.XLS but all that read it found it too large too understand shortly i will compress it into one A4-Page are you intrested? Sincerely "BlueHue"

Ps:  did you understand my caption? (  BELOW)

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Statement:> ELEPHANTs is: PILLARS,Ad-Irem- meant ELEPHANT-City. AT-AD-ATHE-Lant= AGADE=HATOR-HADES=HATTI-Land, ASSUR cursed: EUDIAMON/Aden> into a DEMON, HERODOTUS:'Atlantic' =Mare-Erytraeum(=GULF-of-ADEN.)TimeLine: -2-Tsunamies: 1075- 855 bc
 
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« Reply #916 on: January 02, 2008, 02:47:17 pm »

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 ATLANTIS IS IN that Part of the World-Ocean/ -Sea that is called "The Atlantic"

But suppose that "Atlantis and thus that Ocean part has a differend Name today. . .

I help you out"Atlantic-Ocean the OIKUMENE is the INDIAN Ocean, and The Gulf -of- Aden is the "Atlantic"Part! Thus ADEN/ ras ADEN-Crater Is Atlantis"? Get it, got it "Good"!  "BlueHue" 

PS the (2)Pillars of Hercules that were formerly the 4 Colums of Chronos in the Sea of Kronos(= Gulf-of-ADEN.) were the 4 Cardinal secundary Volcanos of Aden CRATER( now subsided.)

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Statement:> ELEPHANTs is: PILLARS,Ad-Irem- meant ELEPHANT-City. AT-AD-ATHE-Lant= AGADE=HATOR-HADES=HATTI-Land, ASSUR cursed: EUDIAMON/Aden> into a DEMON, HERODOTUS:'Atlantic' =Mare-Erytraeum(=GULF-of-ADEN.)TimeLine: -2-Tsunamies: 1075- 855 bc

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« Reply #917 on: January 02, 2008, 02:48:12 pm »

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So how does that place the extreme of Atlantis facing GADES Huh


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To his twin brother, who was born after him, and obtained as his lot the extremity of the island towards the Pillars of Heracles, facing the country which is now called the region of Gades in that part of the world, he gave the name which in the Hellenic language is Eumelus, in the language of the country which is named after him, Gadeirus.
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« Reply #918 on: January 02, 2008, 02:49:00 pm »

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National Geographic Channel "Is it Real? Atlantis" [TV-G]
Thursday Jan 18, at 3PM PST and 6 PM EST. Check listings for CST & MST airings.


Ever since Plato first described the existence of an island paradise populated by an advanced civilization, the myth of Atlantis has captured the human imagination. Join NGC on a quest that traverses the globe in search of the ever elusive lost civilization of Atlantis. The special features, among others, Prescott anthropologist George Erikson. Erikson, co-author of Atlantis In America: Navigators of the Ancient World, presents evidence that Atlantis existed in the Yucatan and in submerged lands off Costa Rica, and the Bahaman, and Cuban coasts 11,500 years ago when sea levels were up to 400 feet lower than today. Erikson presents Plato's argument that civilizations are periodically destroyed, often by the people who inhabit them, and only a few of the unlettered survive to eventually create new civilizations, unaware of the past. Erikson posits Ancient mariners, not Land Bridge wanderers, as the peoples who connected ancient civilizations.
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« Reply #919 on: January 02, 2008, 02:49:59 pm »

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« Reply #920 on: January 02, 2008, 02:50:48 pm »

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Atlantis was the alternate land bridge to the later continent called America, anyone who says otherwise is just plain silly. The ancients just had differing techniques within their cultural process for metalwork, the Atlanteans just happen to make Orichalcum. The very mention of Orichalcum alone happens to point out a “at out time popular type” that died out just as the culture and land disappeared (look it up), Plato inadvertently proved Atlantis by saying things that later wound up being true keep it simple as this is how problems get solved. For if, Plato was not drawing from an older source i.e. inscriptions later dubbed hieroglyphs then why did America much later after the shoal of mud succumbed to erosion after thousands of years wind up being on the opposite side of the Atlantic matching what he said and not Thera/ Santorini. Which by the way is the entire reason that Thera/ Santorini is not only one of the very least candidates but also in actuality not Atlantis nor has ever been nor ever will be no matter how many times it was popularized on National Geographic, the Discovery, or History Channels or how many other puppets follow suit. It was a great idea to have the dying excavators wish to have his ideas about Atlantis at Thera played out in the mainstream but that is as far as it should have gone, he should have been respected for his work at Santorini, but to confuse the tween is plain ridiculous, for those who know what I am saying bravo to you, for those who do not try to know what you are saying! Thank you for your time I appreciate it…
 
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« Reply #921 on: January 02, 2008, 02:51:41 pm »

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Desiree I get the impression that you feel that the Cro-magnons were Atlanteans. Correct? Now would that be pre-Atlantis sinking or survivors of Atlantis? Or how do you justify this theory? Atlantis sank roughly 11,500 years ago. Early, continental Cro-magnons, date back roughly 30,000 years.Where,in this state, would Neanderthals fit? Not disputing you; just confused.
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Researcher, this land bridge to America would have been where? Actually looking at an ocean depth map; I am struck by the shallowness of the ocean floor in and around the Carribean; from the Bahamas down to cuba and following islands to not far from the south American shore. I wonder, if the ocean was much more shallow during the ice age, if these lands might have shut the ocean off from the Gulf area. Could this area now be the sight of a sunken civilization? Rising ocean levels or the cataclysmic flooding caused by the asteroid that formed the craters just off the Carolinas could have suddenly inundated that area and opened it up to the ocean. Have you a particular area of the Atlantic ocean that, to you, appears promising for a land bridge? Smiley has an area that is almost mid ocean. Or is your landbridge more to the north? 
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« Reply #923 on: January 02, 2008, 02:53:34 pm »

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Brig,

From "Land Bridge" thread, I posted this on January 18,
"I have long thought that from Florida south to S.A. was a land bridge of sorts or a chain of mountains which got blasted by the Yucatan meteor and broke the water barrier into the Atlantic." Which would have then swamped the Gulf area. You must have meant "site" of a sunken civilization. Whatever there was must have been really creamed by a meteor (or asteroid, as you said) of the size that made the huge crater on the Yucatan!

I think that the Carolinas event must have been slightly too north to greatly affect the Caribbean area unless the impacts were scattered further south than we see evidence of.

 
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« Reply #924 on: January 02, 2008, 02:54:26 pm »

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Exactly Brig the physical data is astounding, there was a mainland and it would not have been a far stretch to reach those parts, the Carribean, the Bahamas, Cuba, through a series of peninsulas, coves, and bays, dotted w/isles not unlike the neighbors to the opposite the Polynesians. More and more researchers are finding that the Bering Land Bridge can never account for the conflicting cultures within many certain outposts from coast to coast. Look at the facts most cultures were redundant repeating what was taught to them, handing these down from generation to generation, if this was the case then one has to ask oneself why is there such a profound difference amid the cultures of the west Americas and the East Americas since they were inhabited via migration with a massive mountain range in the way? This is a very serious question that many will never think upon, for if one proposes that all the cultures of the ancient Americas came from the west by way of the Bering Bridge then why did they of the Bering culture continue on passing on to future generations to west America. Yet stop what they were doing only to pass on something entirely different to the eastern Americas let alone the time to drum up such mastery, …

 
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« Reply #925 on: January 02, 2008, 02:55:13 pm »

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Last year, an archaeologist from the Smithsonian announced that Clovis points from America closely resemble Solutrean tools from the European Atlantic Facade culture which are dated to around 17,000 BCE. New evidence also suggests Magdalenian-Solutrean peoples from the Atlantic Facade crossed into North America via an ice bridge or by using an ice/land/sea route at the end of the last ice age.

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« Reply #926 on: January 02, 2008, 02:56:03 pm »

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WHO ARE THE ANISHINABEG?


Anishinabeg, Ojibway, Medawewin, Algonquian & Megis defined *



http://www.healthfreedom.info/who_are_the_anishinabeg.htm



They called themselves “Anishinabeg”. They were the people of the First Nations who greeted the pilgrims on the Atlantic shore. The Anishinabeg people spoke a common language which the French denominated “Algic” or “Algonquian”. One of the most numerous tribes of the Anishinabeg is the Ojibway Nation. [Note: Anishinabeg is the plural of Anishinabe.]



The “Algonquian” language of the Anishinabeg people is defined as “A family of North American Indian languages spoken in an area from Labrador to the Carolinas between the Atlantic coast and the Rocky Mountains.”* However, there were pockets of Anishinabeg living all over North America, including the Pacific coast.



The fact that the Anishinabeg spoke a common language would indicate that the various tribes and clans thereof also had similar customs and traditions. The common religion of the Ojibway was “Medawewin” [pronounced Me-Day-Wee-Win]. The Medawe even had their own written language, as evidenced by preserved birch bark scrolls and rock formations. The Medawewin religion consisted of four degrees or levels wherein initiates learned to use their spiritual abilities for spiritual healing. Herbalists and surgeons also belonged to the Medawewin. This may have been the origin of the term “medicine man”, since “Medawewin” sounds very similar to the English words “medicine man”.

The “Megis” was one of the primary symbols that represents the Medawewin religion. The Megis is a little shell called a cowry shell. The word “cowry” was derived from a Hindu word and is defined as “Any of various tropical marine mollusks of the family Cypraeidae, having glossy, often brightly marked shells, some of which are used as money in the South Pacific and Africa.”* (It therefore appears that Chief Little Shell of the Little Shell Pembina Nation was a member of the Medawewin, as evidenced by his name.) What is not mentioned in the foregoing megis definition is that megis shells were also used as money, or “wampum,” in North America before the European invasion of this continent.



What is most intriguing about the cowry shells used by the Anishinabeg is that these particular shells were not indigenous to America. “The money-cowry (Cypraea moneta) is, and has been for centuries, a sacred object among the Ojibwa and Menomini Indians of North America, and is employed in initiation ceremonies of the Grand Medicine Society [Medawewin]. The use of this particular cowry by these Indians is of peculiar interest; in the first place; owing to it being alien to the American continent, and in the second place, in view of its intimate association with so many remarkable and fantastic beliefs and practices in different parts of the Old World.”** Cypraea moneta shells come from the South Pacific. Other shells which are native only to Asian and South Pacific seas have been found in pre-Columbian North American aboriginal sites, indicating that trans-oceanic trade was occurring prior to the European invasion.



Archaeological finds such as the “Kennewick man” reveal that people with “Caucasian” features lived in North America a long time ago. When one examines this kind of evidence and looks at the similarities between the Medawewin, ancient Hebrew and Judeo-Christian beliefs, one cannot help but wonder if we are not all cousins in the same world family.





* Read HISTORY OF THE OJIBWAY PEOPLE by William W. Warren to verify most of the information on this web page. Warren completed his book in 1852 and it was later published by the Minnesota Historical Society in 1885. Definitions quoted above came from the American Heritage Dictionary, Second College Edition.

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Magdalenian tent structure 12,000 BCE- compare with Native American Tipi.

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« Reply #928 on: January 02, 2008, 02:57:40 pm »

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AAAACCHHH!!!!

I wrote a long response and used a couple of "<s" and ">s" and when I posted it, got this:

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Sorry, we do not permit the following HTML tag or attribute: Parenthesis in HTML tag

» Please use your browser's back button to return.

SO, I did so and the whole post was gone! I did not use any parentheses!! These changes really suck!!!

 
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Which is why I use preview, got burnt too many times  If I have a problem that I don't know where the error is and I used no codding,I use (code) (/code) in brackets though, which overlooks any commands.

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