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Check it out, George is right, the same spiral is on Ometepe Island, too:
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Wonder what it all means..!
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Boreas,
I didn't even know that Thor Heyerdahl had passed on until you posted that. 04/14/04, from cancer, at the age of 87. Ocean exploration has lost a great man. Also, if he hadn't attracted investment to the pyramids of the Canary Islands, they would probably be in rubble right now. I have to admit that I have been bummed out since I heard that. He was (and is) truly one of my heroes.



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                                         Tristan de Cunha, South Atlantic Ocean





Location: 37.09S, 12.28W
Elevation: 2559 ft. (780 m)
Last Updated: September 27, 2004

Tristan de Cunha is a stratovolcano that forms an island located in the
south-central Atlantic Ocean. The volcano has a 300-m-wide summit crater
and is composed pyroclastic deposits upon a base of low-angle lava
flows. Numerous parasitic cinder cones are also found on the flanks of
the volcano. The only historical eruption of the volcano occurred in
1961. This eruption took place along the north shore and forced the
evacuation of the island's inhabitants.
Last known significant activity: 1962
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2004 Reports
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August 03, 2004

According to a news report, a swarm of earthquakes occurred beneath
Tristan da Cunha during the nights of 28 and 29 July. A scientist
monitoring seismic activity from the Preparatory Commission for the
Comprehensive Nuclear Test-Ban Treaty Organization, Vienna International
Centre indicated that the main swarm lasted ~8 hours and occurred ~30 km
below the volcano. After the swarm, there were a few individual
earthquakes and then activity tapered off.

This information was summarized from the GVP/USGS Tristan de Cunha
Weekly Volcanic Activity Report
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                                  Volcanic Eruption Could Unleash Giant Tsunamis on U.S.





The Scotsman | December 28, 2004
By John-Paul Ford Rojas

The threat from a collapsing mountain in the Atlantic Ocean could
unleash deadly tidal waves on a similar scale to the Asian tsunami, a
scientist warned today.

Hundreds of millions of people could die in a disaster affecting Britain
and the eastern United States.

Professor Bill McGuire called for an early warning system to be
installed to counter the potential danger.

Researchers have discovered that a chunk of volcano in the Canary
Islands the size of the Isle of Man is on the brink of falling into the
sea.

Scientists believe it could break away when the Cumbre Vieja volcano in
La Palma next erupts.

If that happened a giant tsunami, or massive wave, reaching heights of
more than 500 feet would be sent racing across the Atlantic at the speed
of a passenger jet.

Around nine hours later it would hit the Caribbean islands and the east
coasts of Canada and the US.

After travelling 4,000 miles the wave would be lower and wider but still
around 20 metres ? 50 metres (66ft ? 164ft) high.

Stretching for many miles, it would home in on estuaries and harbours
and sweep up to 20 miles inland, destroying everything in its path.

Boston, New York, Washington DC and Miami would be virtually wiped off
the map and tens of millions of people killed.

Meanwhile the size of the waves reaching Britain would be half as high
as those hitting America but this would still be on the same scale as
those seen in the disaster in the Indian Ocean.

Prof McGuire, director of the Benfield Hazard Research Centre at
University College London, said monitoring might at best give two weeks
warning.

But although the danger had been known about since the 1990s, no-one was
keeping a proper watch on the mountain.

He said that a chunk of the mountain had been teetering on the brink of
collapse since the last volcanic eruption of Cumbre Vieja in 1949.

Prof McGuire said: “We expect during a future eruption that whole mass
to collapse into the North Atlantic.

“You are dealing with a similar situation to the Indian Ocean only on a
much more devastating scale.”

The areas affected would include the entire North Atlantic rim including
north west Africa and southern Europe.

Prof McGuire said it was “certain” this would happen at some stage
although whether the next eruption would be the one to cause the
collapse was not known.

The next eruption could be between 20 and 200 years away.

He said the problem had been known about since the Spanish government
funded a study in the 1990s but authorities had then chosen to ignore
it.

Radar satellite image technology was now needed to find out how much the
unstable mass has been moving.

He added: “It is an issue people are aware of but hopefully the Indian
Ocean business will focus people’s minds a bit more.”

There was no warning system for tsunamis in the Atlantic and although
the ocean was only affected by 2% of those in the world, their impact
could be devastating.

Earthquakes such as one that hit Lisbon in 1755 could also trigger the
giant waves, as they have done in the recent disaster.

The 18th century tremor produced massive waves that caused thousands of
deaths and affected people as far away as the Caribbean.

“My point of view is not that everybody should be worrying about this
but if you know that these things are going to happen you either sit
back and just wait for it to happen or you do something about it,” Prof
McGuire said.


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                                                         Atlantic Ocean





Atlantic Ocean, the second largest of the earth's four oceans and the most heavily traveled. Only the Pacific Ocean is larger. It covers about twice the area of the Atlantic Ocean. The Atlantic is divided into two nominal sections: The part north of the equator is called the North Atlantic; the part south of the equator, the South Atlantic. The ocean's name is derived from Atlas, one of the Titans of Greek mythology.





Boundaries and Size



The Atlantic Ocean is essentially an S-shaped north-south channel, extending from the Arctic Ocean in the north to the Antarctic continent in the south and situated between the eastern coast of the American continents and the western coasts of Europe and Africa. The Atlantic Ocean proper has a surface area of about 82 million sq km (about 31,660,000 sq mi). Including its marginal seas-the Gulf of Mexico-Caribbean Sea, the Arctic Ocean, and the North, Baltic, Mediterranean, and Black seas-the total area is about 106,190,000 sq km (about 41 million sq mi).

The boundary between the North Atlantic and the Arctic Ocean is arbitrarily designated as lying along a system of submarine ridges that extend between the land masses of Baffin Island, Greenland, and Scotland. More clearly defined is the boundary with the Mediterranean Sea at the Strait of Gibraltar and with the Caribbean Sea along the arc of the Antilles. The South Atlantic is arbitrarily separated from the Indian Ocean on the east by the 20° east meridian and from the Pacific on the west along the line of shallowest depth between Cape Horn and the Antarctic Peninsula.





Geologic Formation and Structural Features



The Atlantic began to form during the Jurassic period, about 150 million years ago, when a rift opened up in the supercontinent of Gondwanaland, resulting in the separation of South America and Africa. The separation continues today at the rate of several centimeters a year along the Mid-Atlantic Ridge. Part of the midoceanic ridge system that girdles the world, it is a submarine ridge extending north to south in a sinuous path midway between the continents. Roughly 1500 km (about 930 mi) wide, the ridge has a more rugged topography than any mountain range on land, and is a frequent site of volcanic eruptions and earthquakes. The ridge ranges from about 1 to 3 km (about 0.6 to 2 mi) above the ocean bottom.

Along the American, Antarctic, African, and European coasts are the continental shelves-embankments of the debris washed from the continents. Submarine ridges and rises extend roughly east-west between the continental shelves and the Mid-Atlantic Ridge, dividing the eastern and western ocean floors into a series of basins, also known as abyssal plains. The three basins on the American side of the Mid-Atlantic Ridge are more than 5000 m (more than 16,400 ft) deep: the North American Basin, the Brazil Basin, and the Argentina Basin. The Eurafrican side is marked by several basins that are smaller but just as deep: the Iberia, Canaries, Cape Verde, Sierra Leone, Guinea, Angola, Cape, and Agulhas basins. The large Atlantic-Antarctic Basin lies between the southernmost extension of the Mid-Atlantic Ridge and the Antarctic continent.

The Atlantic Ocean has an average depth of 3926 m (12,881 ft). At its deepest point, in the Puerto Rico Trench, the bottom is 8742 m (28,681 ft) below the surface.





Islands



The largest islands of the Atlantic Ocean lie on the continental shelves. Newfoundland is the principal island on the North American shelf; the British Isles are the major island group of the Eurafrican shelf. Other continental islands include the Falkland Islands, the only major group on the South American shelf, and the South Sandwich Islands on the Antarctic shelf.
Oceanic islands, usually of volcanic origin, are less common in the Atlantic Ocean than in the Pacific. Among these are the island arc of the Antilles (including Puerto Rico, Hispaniola, Jamaica, and Cuba). In the eastern Atlantic, the Madeiras, Canaries, Cape Verde, and the São Tomé-Príncipe group are the peaks of submarine ridges. The Azores, Saint Paul's Rocks, Ascension, and the Tristan da Cunha group are isolated peaks of the Mid-Atlantic Ridge system; the large island of Iceland is also the result of volcanic action at the Mid-Atlantic Ridge. Bermuda rises from the floor of the North American Basin, and Saint Helena from the Angola Basin.





Currents



The circulatory system of the surface waters of the Atlantic can be depicted as two large gyres, or circular current systems, one in the North Atlantic and one in the South Atlantic. These currents are primarily wind driven, but are also affected by the rotation of the earth. The currents of the North Atlantic, which include the North Equatorial Current, the Canaries Current, and the Gulf Stream, flow in a clockwise direction. The currents in the South Atlantic, among which are the Brazil, Benguela, and South Equatorial currents, travel in a counterclockwise direction. Each gyre extends from near the equator to about latitude 45°; closer to the poles are the less completely defined counterrotating gyres, one rotating counterclockwise in the Arctic regions of the North Atlantic and one rotating clockwise near Antarctica in the South Atlantic. See Ocean and Oceanography: Ocean Currents.
The Atlantic receives the waters of many of the principal rivers of the world, among them the Saint Lawrence, Mississippi, Orinoco, Amazon, Paraná, Congo, Niger, and Loire, and the rivers emptying into the North, Baltic, and Mediterranean seas. Nevertheless, primarily because of the high salinity of outflow from the Mediterranean, the Atlantic is slightly more saline than the Pacific or Indian oceans.





Temperatures



The Atlantic Ocean may be described as a bed of water colder than 9° C (48° F)-the cold-water sphere-within which lies a bubble of water warmer than 9° C-the warm-water sphere. The warm-water sphere extends between latitude 50° north and latitude 50° south and has an average thickness of about 600 m (about 2000 ft). The most active circulation is found in the uppermost layer of warm water. Below this, circulation becomes increasingly sluggish as the temperature decreases.
Surface temperatures range from 0° C (32° F), found year-round at the Arctic and Antarctic margins, to 27° C (81° F) in the broad belt at the equator. At depths below 2000 m (about 6600 ft), temperatures of 2° C (36° F) are prevalent; in bottom waters, below 4000 m (about 13,200 ft), temperatures of -1° C (30° F) are common.





Marine Resources



A remarkable example of plant life is found in the Sargasso Sea, the oval section of the North Atlantic lying between the West Indies and the Azores and bounded on the west and north by the Gulf Stream. Here extensive patches of brown gulfweed (Sargassum) are found on the relatively still surface waters.
Actively mined mineral resources in the Atlantic include titanium, zircon, and monazite (phosphates of the cerium metals), off the eastern coast of Florida, and tin and iron ore, off the equatorial coast of Africa. The continental shelves and slopes of the Atlantic are potentially very rich in fossil fuels. Large amounts of petroleum are already being extracted in the North Sea and in the Caribbean Sea-Gulf of Mexico region; lesser amounts are extracted off the coast of Africa in the Gulf of Guinea.



http://www.cartage.org.lb/en/themes/GeogHist/histories/history/hiscountries/A/atlanticocean.html
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                                          Volcanoes of the Atlantic Ocean





The Global Volcanism Program Holocene volcano database for Canary
Islands currently contains 6 volcanoes, sorted below in geographical
(volcano number) order.
Photo Volcano Name Volcano Type Location
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LA PALMA Stratovolcanoes Canary Islands

HIERRO Shield volcano Canary Islands

TENERIFE Stratovolcano Canary Islands

GRAN CANARIA Fissure vents Canary Islands

FUERTEVENTURA Fissure vents Canary Islands

LANZAROTE Fissure vents



http://www.volcano.si.edu/world/region.cfm?rnum=1803
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                                            Volcanoes of the Atlantic Ocean





The Global Volcanism Program Holocene volcano database for Cape Verde
Islands currently contains 3 volcanoes, sorted below in geographical
(volcano number) order.
Photo Volcano Name Volcano Type Location
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FOGO Stratovolcano Cape Verde Islands

BRAVA Stratovolcano Cape Verde Islands

SAO VICENTE Stratovolcano Cape Verde Islands



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The Global Volcanism Program Holocene volcano database for Azores
currently contains 13 volcanoes, sorted below in geographical (volcano
number) order.
Photo Volcano Name Volcano Type Location
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FLORES Stratovolcano Azores

CORVO Stratovolcano Azores

FAYAL Stratovolcano Azores

PICO Stratovolcano Azores

SAN JORGE Fissure vent Azores

GRACIOSA Stratovolcano Azores

TERCEIRA Stratovolcanoes Azores

DON JOAO DE CASTRO BANK Submarine volcano Azores

SETE CIDADES Stratovolcano San Miguel I

UNNAMED Pyroclastic cones San Miguel I

AGUA DE PAU Stratovolcano San Miguel I

FURNAS Stratovolcano San Miguel I

MONACO BANK Submarine volcano Azores
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The following locations in this region are not related to known Holocene
volcanoes, but have been the subject of a report in the Bulletin of the
Global Volcanism Network:

Azores-Gibraltar Fracture Zone



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                                           Volcanoes of the Atlantic Ocean





The Global Volcanism Program Holocene volcano database for Atlantic
Ocean (central) currently contains 6 volcanoes, sorted below in
geographical (volcano number) order.
Photo Volcano Name Volcano Type Location
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UNNAMED Submarine volcano ? Central Atlantic Ocean

UNNAMED Submarine volcano Central Atlantic Ocean

UNNAMED Submarine volcano Central Atlantic Ocean

UNNAMED Submarine volcano Central Atlantic Ocean

ASCENSION Stratovolcano Central Atlantic Ocean

TRINDADE Stratovolcano Central Atlantic Ocean



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                                              Volcanoes of the Atlantic Ocean





The Global Volcanism Program Holocene volcano database for Atlantic
Ocean (central) currently contains 6 volcanoes, sorted below in
geographical (volcano number) order.
Photo Volcano Name Volcano Type Location
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UNNAMED Submarine volcano ? Central Atlantic Ocean

UNNAMED Submarine volcano Central Atlantic Ocean

UNNAMED Submarine volcano Central Atlantic Ocean

UNNAMED Submarine volcano Central Atlantic Ocean

ASCENSION Stratovolcano Central Atlantic Ocean

TRINDADE Stratovolcano Central Atlantic Ocean



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                                            Volcanoes of the Atlantic Ocean





The Global Volcanism Program Holocene volcano database for Atlantic
Ocean (southern) currently contains 3 volcanoes, sorted below in
geographical (volcano number) order.
Photo Volcano Name Volcano Type Location
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TRISTAN DA CUNHA Shield volcano Southern Atlantic Ocean

BOUVET Shield volcano Southern Atlantic Ocean

THOMPSON ISLAND Submarine volcano ? Southern Atlantic Ocean



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The Global Volcanism Program Holocene volcano database for Atlantic
Ocean (northern) currently contains 3 volcanoes, sorted below in
geographical (volcano number) order.
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UNNAMED Submarine volcano Northern Atlantic Ocean

UNNAMED Submarine volcano Northern Atlantic Ocean

UNNAMED Submarine volcano Northern Atlantic Ocean
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Riv,
Have you seen the southern border of the geolittic ice-cap? We may start in the Rockies, down to Colorado, then crossing straigth east to the Appalaches and Virginia. Then what?
Then the edge of the Cap continued - straigth east, rigth into the Atlantic, SOUTH of the 40 altitude. Covering 50 degress, all up to the 90 altitude, being the North Pole.

How far out into the Atlantic Ocean did the ice-cap reach?

From Virginia it went along the 40 altitude, bending sligthly northward until we close in on the 45th LONGITUDE, - straigth south of Greenland. There it started bending northwards - from the 40th to the 52 altitude, hitting Ireland and England who was both massivly covered, except from the southern parts.

The bend have continued to sharpen, as the coal of Newcastle was under ice, the Danish penninsula was NOT. Thus our Scandinavian geologists are drawing the edge of the ice-cap along the east-coast of Brittain across the North Sea to the Scandinavian South Cape, where it continues to cover 95% of Scandinavia, crossing the Botnic Ocean and covering 90-95 % of Finland.

Simultaniously we have had a large continental ice-sheet covering Northern Germany, as well as Austria, Switzerland, Tchechia and Poland, before hitting onwards to the east - north of Ukraine (and the Black Sea) and The Caspian Sea - reaching the Himmalayas and eventually the Pacific Ocean, - at the northern islands of Sakhalin.

According to the last geological update I have seen there was; "no chance of people passing the Bering Straigth before 8.500 BP." Which means that the Meso-Americans do have a past beyond ice-age.

Which means that they were there already BEFORE ice-time. As well as DURING. And AFTER. Plainly and simply, - like 1-2-3.
That this does not fit with the "established views" doesnt change anything. Not at all.

There are recent discoveries in the Americas that clearly shows traces of civil life more than 12.000 and 18.000 years back in time. Now even 30.000 years old fragments are found, claiming to bear witness of human presence.

Than we start understanding that the genetic and cultural variations of North and South America have evolved over tens and hundreds of millenias - to fit with the time when a galactic event occured, producing a cataclysm that turned into ice-age.

Thats how big the ice-cap used to be, about 40-20.000 years ago. Still 12.000 years ago it was all quite intact, - but between 10. and 12.000 years ago something caused a total and dramatic change. The result was the collaps of the giantic ice-cap, - as it broke up into regional sheets and pieces.
From then on the southern edge of the cape came to press south only over land.
If we relate to the different "Cape Agdes" existing on modern maps we may find traces of the later border-lines of the Atlantean sector of the maxima ice-cap.
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Now even 30.000 years old fragments are found, claiming to bear witness of human presence in the Americas? Boreas there is no real evidence of that. 

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Apparently the celtic sea shelf ranges in general from 100-200 metres in depth. There are also a number of shallower banks encountered in the deeper parts of the Sea, including Labdie Bank,Jones Bank, and the Great Sole Bank that range upto 1500 metres.
http://www.ngo.grida.no/wwfneap/Publication/briefings/CelticShelf.pdf
It would be safe to say the range is 100-400 metres for the Celtic sea shelf.
http://www.bgs.ac.uk/products/digbath250/
http://www.jncc.gov.uk/PDF/JNCC325-maps_and_plates.pdf


The location for the Amperes seamount Atlantis, would be roughly 800 km (480)miles, from the Straites of Gibraltar.



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Here's an excellent Bathymetric map someone posted for me in Hancock's forum;
http://topex.ucsd.edu/srtm30_plus/images/w020n40.Bathmetry.srtm.tiff.jpg
Atlantis primordial hill would lie around 35'N 14'W
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Atlantis Royal City should lie about 800 kms past the Straites of Gibraltar, around 36' N/14'W. (The Brown dot in the center ahead of the Horseshoe Abyssal plain(Amperes,Gettysburg seamounts) would have served for the site of the enormous canal described by Critias. (100m deep by 300m wide). The primordial hill(Ta-Tenen, Cleito) most likely was slightly above/right of the city(large hilly area).
http://topex.ucsd.edu/srtm30_plus/images/w020n40.Bathmetry.srtm.tiff.jpg
On either side of the Horseshoe Abyssal Canal location, you can see how the 2 Harbours would fit in.

The next (top of picture NE)circular land North of the Gettysburg Seamount (larger area,hill) is the Tore seamount where a meteorite crashed according to geological surveys of the Atol.

The fascinating thing is that around 10,000 bC this land would have been above water where a mean depth on average of 200m could be related to that land now below water.

The Celtic Shelf varies from 100-400m below sea level with mean depths upto 1500m in other abyssal plain locations.
At the bottom right of this next map we also see the Seat of Saturn off the NWestern coast of Portugal.(light green/brown)
http://topex.ucsd.edu/srtm30_plus/images/w020n90.Bathmetry.srtm.tiff.jpg

At the top right corner of this map above Iceland and on the Shores of Greenland you can make out definite circle.
Either an extinct Volcano, which we can see long lava trails or a meteorite impact.
http://topex.ucsd.edu/srtm30_plus/images/w060n90.Bathmetry.srtm.tiff.jpg

http://topex.ucsd.edu/WWW_html/mar_topo.html

This map shows the Azores and that strange land below it that looks like a warrior holding a sword and Cape Verde lower right.
http://topex.ucsd.edu/srtm30_plus/images/w060n40.Bathmetry.srtm.tiff.jpg
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Riven,
I like the direction your research is taking. In answer to your question, "which lands would be above water at the end of the last Ice Age," that is a difficult question. In addition to the fact that the oceans were nearly four hundred feet lower than they are today, adding more land to the coastliness and expanding the size of islands, there is also something called Tectonic Uplift to factor in. Some areas in the ocean would be raised higher and some lower. If something dramatic happened to end the last Ice Age, then this would fit neatly in with that.

As Rand Flem-Ath says on his website:


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Evidence for submerged lost civilizations of the Ice Age may be 'deeper' than a simple ocean rising model assumes. Computer models that don't take the tectonic collapse consideration into their calculation can seriously miss the mark. They can give false readings by assuming greater depths are equal to greater age when much of the depth might be accounted for by tectonic collapse.
Such a shift of the crust would be accompanied by volcanoes and earthquakes but vertical shifts should be largely restricted to the tropics. The tectonic uplift and collapse wouldn't happen all at once. There could be significant (many centuries possibly thousands of years) delay in establishing a new equilibrium.
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I put the list of volcanoes in the Atlantic Ocean (most of which have never been named, let alone explored), because I wanted to show just how volcanic and earthquake prone the whole Atlantic ocean is. I have a theory I'm working on concerning the volcanoes, but it's not fully researched yet, so I'm keeping it to myself for now.

You're right, we do need a professional to examine some of this. I will look for some more good Ice Age maps this weekend and see if I can find any that are helpful.
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