Message #54891

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Jaime Manuschevich

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Rate Member   posted 04-20-2006 09:07 PM                       
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Originally posted by Rich:
Jaime
I agree with some of your controversial points, and not on others... I even have my own controversial thoughts...
"Tyrrhenia"
-- This term is not invented until the trojan war. I think it should read Trinaerian Sea, from the Argonaut story.

"Okeanos"
-- Following a discussion from Herodotus, Okeanos was a rain god who fills all the rivers and seas from above.

"You say that the Greeks considered that Gibraltar is narrow."
-- 90 kilometers is pretty far in my opinion.

"the Atlantic was navigable"
-- Not sure about this translation... anyways... a river makes more sense here to me than the Ocean. Hellesponte seems reasonable as well.

There are at least 2 rivers that in greek mythology change from navigable to un-navigable. One is the strymon river in the Hercules legend. Made un-navigable by Hera. Strabo also mentions the Gallus river in Phrygia, near the Hellesponte.
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I share that the Tyrrhenia that speaks the myth is not the place that we know. It is the Punt. Also your appreciation that Gibraltar, under estandares Greek, is not a narrow place.

Now, I do not think that they talks about a river to a somewhat seemed. Sea refers to small, that like a lake, which I stop being navigable, that I flood myself, that was connected with a greater sea through a narrow entrance and that had a single port. That does not correspond under any point of view with the Atlantic that we know. T

he Egyptians are speaking of a sea (pelagos), not of oceáno(okeano). For me it is clear that sea is speaking and that is not the Atlantic that we know.