Changing the World

[Dawn Moline]

Changing the World...

I was having a discussion with a friend about this the other day and it occurred to me that it be worthwhile to bring the discussion to the rest of you. I'm not very fond of this time we happen to be living in, and personally, have always felt something like a walking anachronism. We have more ways to communicate, and yet are more removed than ever from the human condition. We can accumulate a wealth of possessions, but have any of them truly made us happy? So many things have been designed to make our lives more efficient so then why are always running short of time..? The message of God, rather than be a source of comfort, has been appropriated by people who tend to use it, more often out of hate, rather than love.

If I had my way, every human being would work to understand one another rather than judge, help, rather than hurt. I would tear down the borders of all our countries and let there be no countries at all. Weapons would be eliminated, we would have no armies, and there would be no wars. I would eliminate all organized religion, so often the source of all the world's evils. In place, we would have a more spiritual society, more in tune with the earth. The only technology allowed to survive would be that which could heal.

Ours would be an artistic society, filled with poets, philosophers, scientists, writers, artists, artisans. We would build something different of this place than what we have now. I would bring back to life great people like Leonardo, Michelangelo, Shakespeare, Einstein and Mozart. Culture would be the preeminent goal, and we would make something truly beautiful of this world.

And, lastly, I would rename my new world, start everything from scratch. Instead of calling it, earth, I would give it a new name, "Atlantis." And everyone who wonders where Atlantis would be, need not wonder at all. Because, no matter wherever they were, there it would be. Atlantis would be inside us all.

[Dawn Moline]

No matter if you would only make small changes, or big ones, let's each of us design our own world and see what we find. Once again, I encourage everyone to participate.

http://forums.atlantisrising.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=000287;p=1

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Norman Pounders

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Well, Dawn, this certainly has the look of another essentially empty topic that all the many pseudo-intellectual liberals of this forum can add their three or four hundred posts to. Congratulations on a job well done.

I suppose it wouldn't bother you that in your America, Muslim extremists could just run over America's defenseless borders and then just kill us all? Oh, I'm forgetting, in your worldview, there wouldn't even be any countries. Yes, that would work. Would homosexuality be encouraged in your new world, Dawn? I'm guessing it would be. Dorian might like that.

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bluducky

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   posted 04-26-2005 08:47 PM                       
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Dear Dawn,

A wonderful idea.

As a further addition to Dawn's post (If she will permit me), I would like to point out that this thread is NOT about to be innundated with any "have you no shame" comments, for desiring to change the world. This is a very open discussion, intended to eliminate problems, not create more. If you have problems with this, the do NOT participate.

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What I would change is organized religion (and I bet you all wonder why  ) religion, is of iteslf, a good and noble thing, however, when it becomes 'organized' and run by 'rulemakers', the ESSENCE of religion dies, and it become nought more but licence to prejudice.

I would eliminate toxic gasses etc that pollute the air -- although there is evidence indicating that if we humans STOPPED polluting the atmosphere, the Ozone layer would weaken. (meaning our pollution strengthens it. It needs a source of energy to support it, and we provide that, it seems.) I like things nice and natural...

I would let the dead STAY dead  Great works would be the norm should the 'great people' remain alive indefinitely. (where is my prize for being a great person?  ) 


I would advance technology to a degree that it is no longer worth fighting over, thus ushering in a golden age of prosperity, and world unity.


I would create off world gardens, to supply food demands on our overpopulated world. Failing that, I would encourage people to have small families to avoid overpopulation, and instil greater morals into people, showing them that a life is worth more than the world it lives in, therefore, do not act irresponsibly or hastily in creating it. (this will also eliminate adoptions, abortions etc)


that's it for now...

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Jennie McGrath

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   posted 04-26-2005 09:12 PM                       
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We need more technology, not less. I would like to live in a civilization that has evolved, rather than de-evolved. I'd like so see interplanetary travel on a routine basis, and where our contacts with alien civilizations are out in the open, not hidden like they are now.

Wouldn't it be great to live in a time, where, instead of the average citizen going to the mall, you can fly off to Mars when you get the chance? How about getting the chance to explore the rest of the galaxy on your own, by yourself, alone??

The problem with this time, if you ask me, is that it is too BORING. We're not stuck in the past, but we're not exactly living in an advanced time in the future either. The world, as it is now, blows big-time.
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Jennie McGrath

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   posted 04-26-2005 09:13 PM                       
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Bummer about your fiance, Blu.
Send her here.

One or all of us will straighten her out. 

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Veronica Poe

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  posted 04-26-2005 09:30 PM                       
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I would like to live in a world where people are not so judgmental, where women are treated with a higher regard, and where people can have sex with one another without risk of death, disease, or other bad consequences. And I don't much care what time I would have to live in to do that either. Wouldn't it be great to live in a time where people could just fall in love with each other? 

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Aristotle

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   posted 04-26-2005 09:43 PM                       
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I would definitely be all for eliminating organized religion, which, in the long run, has ended up doing more harm to people than good. The only belief that is needed ispeace.

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  posted 04-26-2005 10:06 PM                       
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I would love to live in the world of...Marvel Comics! Have since I was a kid. Wouldn't it be great to see the Avengers, the Fantastic Four and Spiderman on a daily basis?? Wouldn't it be great to have Dr. Doom at the U.N.? Can you imagine how that would shake things up there? How about if Galactus came to the earth and wanted to eat it whole?

Make mine Marvel!

Excelsior!!   

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Norman Pounders

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Very well, Dawn, I'll play your little game.
I'm perfectly fine with the time we're living in, I just happen to believe that it needs a little adjustment, that's all.

I would like to live in a situation where liberals like yourself no longer exist, where Muslim extremists are gone, too, and where America is the unquestioned moral leader of the world. I'm afraid that pseudo-hippies like yourself would be out of luck in that type of world. Does that answer your question?

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Calvin Noble

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I would eliminate all organized religion, so often the source of all the world's evils. In place, we would have a more spiritual society, more in tune with the earth.
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Never miss a chance to show your disrespect for organized religion, do you Dawn? Even though it is the source of comfort throughout the world over, you must continually show your disdain. What is it in your past that drives you to constantly undermine the teachings of the lord? And why have you been missing from here lately?

Now your heathen mafia of Baphomet, Aristotle, Trent, Veronica or one of the others will all gang up on me like you always have in the past, telling me that I am a bad person. Very well, I await their arrival.

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Volitzer

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After some of us here prove the exo-human's mining operations and 5 psi atmosphere on the moon then we will be more than happy to take you guys to Venus and see what a world w/o wars and organized religion is actually like.

Veronica, sex is always going to run the risk of responsibility no matter what planet you're on. Venus has the reputation of being a planet of peace and love but your lack of forethought in your promiscuiity would even be cause for concern even with the Venusians.

Norman:

I hate to tell you this buddy but the Cryptocrats who start all the wars on this planet are based in the remote regions of the Nevada desert. This War on Terror is nothing but a Cryptocrat cover for American Oil imperialism in the Middle-East. Saddam and Osama wouldn't trade with the USA so they were removed. I am an American myself. There have been many instances where Venusians have benevolently tried to share zero point technology with us so we'd give up our dirty, polluting fossil fuel industries. However since the Cryptocrats would loose so much power over this planet everything astronomic gets suppressed. NASA is nothing but a Cryptocratic front that spends millions to bore Earth humanity with exo-geology so as to limit the desire for space travel amoung Earth nations. Thereby maintaining their Cryptonomy, oil imperialism and warfare based economy. In a nutshell what you see on Star Trek, NG, DS9, Voyager etc. is A Venusian and other exo-huamn reality. 

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Volitzer

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Calvin:

Venus is religionless and yet lives in peace with no wars.

Your idol G W Bush and the other Bushes as well as the Saudis all have ties to the oil industry thus standing membership in the Cryptocracy.

Not to bust your bubble or anything but espousing morality and having a picture of G W is like saying you're a Christian with Hitler's picture. 

Bush Sr., Bush Jr., Cheney, Kissenger they're all in on it. We don't have Republicans in the Bush Administration we have Cryptocrat puppets.

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Morrison

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Wow, Dawn starts another topic to get everyone engaged in a postitive discussion and gets another lecture from the right wing fanatic wing for her troubles. Don't you guys ever quit?

And Volitzer, I like Veronica, I feel total sympathy for her problems.