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« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2007, 02:08:16 am »


Inca mythology


The Christian priests that followed the Spanish conquest of Peru by Francisco Pizarro burned the records of the Inca culture, which had been kept on knotted cords called Khipus. (Khipus Information) There is currently a theory put forward by Gary Urton that the Khipus represented a binary system capable of recording phonological or logographic data. All information for what is known is based on what was recorded by priests, from the iconography on Incan pottery and architecture, and the myths and legends which survived amongst the native peoples.


Inca foundation legends
Manco Capac was the legendary founder of the Incan Dynasty in Peru and the Cuzco Dynasty at Cuzco. The legends and history surrounding this mythical figure are very jumbled, especially those concerning his rule at Cuzco and his birth/rising. In one legend, he was the son of Tici Viracocha. In another, he was brought up from the depths of Lake Titicaca by the sun god Inti. However, commoners were not allowed to speak the name of Viracocha, which is possibly an explanation for the need for two foundation legends rather than just the first.

There were also several myths about Manco Capac and his coming to power. In one myth, Manco Capac and his brother Pachacamac were sons of the sun god Inti. Manco Capac, himself, was worshiped as a fire and sun god. According to this Inti legend, Manco Capac and his siblings were sent up to the earth by the sun god and emerged from the cave of Pacaritambo carrying a golden staff called ‘tapac-yauri’. They were instructed to create a Temple of the Sun in the spot where the staff sank into the earth to honor the sun god Inti, their father. To get to Cuzco, where they built the temple, they traveled via underground caves. During the journey, one of Manco’s brothers, and possibly a sister, were turned to stone (huaca).

In another version of this legend, instead of emerging from a cave in Cuzco, the siblings emerged from the waters of Lake Titicaca.

In the Tici Virachocha legend, Manco Capac was the son of Tici Viracocha of Pacari-Tampu, today known as Pacaritambo, which is 25 km south of Cuzco. He and his brothers (Ayar Anca,Ayar Cachi, and Ayar Uchu); and sisters (Mama Ocllo, Mama Huaco, Mama Raua, and Mama Cura) lived near Cuzco at Paccari-Tampu, and uniting their people and the ten ayllu they encountered in their travels to conquer the tribes of the Cuzco Valley. This legend also incorporates the golden staff, which is thought to have been given to Manco Capac by his father. Accounts vary, but according to some versions of the legend, the young Manco jealously betrayed his older brothers, killed them, and then became the sole ruler of Cuzco.


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« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2007, 02:10:44 am »

Deities

Like the Romans, the Inca permitted the cultures they integrated into their empire to keep their individual religions. Below are some of the various gods worshiped by the peoples of the Incan empire, many of which have overlapping responsibilities and domains. Unless otherwise noted, it can safely be assumed these were worshipped by different ayllus or worshipped in particular former states.
•   Apo was a god of mountains
•   Apocatequil (aka Apotequil) was the god of lightning.
•   Ataguchu was a god who assisted in creation myth
•   Catequil was a god of thunder and lightning
•   Cavillace was a virgin goddess who ate a fruit, which was actually the sperm of Coniraya, the moon god. When she gave birth to a son, she demanded that the father step forward. No one did, so she put the baby on the ground and it crawled towards Coniraya. She was ashamed because of Coniraya's low stature among the gods, and ran to the coast of Peru, where she changed herself and her son into rocks.
•   Chasca was the goddess of dawn and twilight, and Venus. She protected virgin girls.
•   Chasca Coyllur was the goddess of flowers and young maidens.
•   Mama Coca (aka Cocomama) was a goddess of health and joy. She was originally a promiscuous woman who was cut in half by her many lovers. Her body grew into the first coca plant, the leaves of which men were only allowed to chew (to bring health and happiness) after having given a woman an orgasm.
•   Coniraya was the deity of the moon who fashioned his sperm into a fruit, which Cavillaca then ate. When she gave birth to a son, she demanded that the father step forward. No one did, so she put the baby on the ground and it crawled towards Coniraya. She was ashamed because of Coniraya's low stature among the gods, and ran to the coast of Peru, where she changed herself and her son into rock huacas.
•   Copacati was a lake goddess.
•   Ekkeko was a god of the hearth and wealth. The ancients made dolls that represented him and placed a miniature version of their desires onto the doll; this was believed to caused the user to receive what he desired.
•   Illapa ("thunder and lightning"; aka Apu Illapu, Ilyap'a, Katoylla) was a very popular weather god. His holiday was on July 25. He was said to keep the Milky Way in a jug and use it to create rain. He appeared as a man in shining clothes, carrying a club and stones. He was formerly the main god of the Kingdom of Colla after which the Collasuyu province of the Inca empire was named.
•   Inti was the sun god. Source of warmth and light and a protector of the people. Inti was considered the most important god. The Inca Emperors were believed to be the lineal descendants of the sun god.
•   Kon was the god of rain and wind that came from the south. He was a son of Inti and Mama Quilla.
•   Mama Allpa was a fertility goddess depicted with multiple breasts.
•   Mama Cocha ("sea mother") was the sea and fish goddess, protectress of sailors and fishermen. In one legend she mothered Inti and Mama Quilla with Viracocha.
•   Mama Pacha (aka Pachamama) was the wife of Pachacamac and a dragoness fertility deity who presided over planting and harvesting. She caused earthquakes.
•   Mama Quilla ("mother moon" or "golden mother") was a marriage, festival and moon goddess and daughter of Viracocha and Mama Cocha, as well as wife and sister of Inti. She was the mother of Manco Capac, Pachacamac, Kon and Mama Ocllo.
•   Mama Zara ("grain mother", aka Zaramama) was the goddess of grain. She was associated with maize that grew in multiples or were similarly strange. These strange plants were sometimes dressed as dolls of Mama Zara. She was also associated with willow trees.
•   Pacha Camac ("Earth-maker") was a chthonic creator god, earlier worshiped by the Ichma but later adopted into the creation myth of the Inca.
•   Pariacaca was a god of water in pre-Inca mythology that was adopted by the Inca. He was a god of rainstorms and a creator-god. He was born a falcon but later became human.
•   Paricia was a god who sent a flood to kill humans who did not respect him adequately. Possibly another name for Pachacamac.
•   Supay was both the god of death and ruler of the Uca Pacha as well as a race of demons.
•   Urcaguary was the god of metals, jewels and other underground items of great value.


Important Places•   Uca Pacha ("the lower world") was the underworld (similar to Hell or Hades), located in the center of Earth.
•   Hanan Pacha ("higher world") was the Heavenly underworld. Only righteous people could enter it (much like Heaven), crossing a bridge made of hair.
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« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2007, 04:06:59 am »

This HANAN PACHA that you mentioned, just to focus on that, is important to analize. Pacha in Quechua language means both space & time. For the Incas there was no before-after but more something like inside/outside that comes back in permament cycles. Hanan Pacha is the future, a sphere which is already existing but outside here. It seems like physicists' concepts of simultaneous universes or bubble-cosmos. The internal circle is past and invisible and called Uku Pacha, inside the sphere of time and space. Between them there's Kay Pacha which is here-now and it's like a door or/and bridge (punku and chakana) y catches our consciousness because remembers the past and foresees the future. Eternity is called Wiρay (in English transliteration of the sound, the name is like spelling Wee' ny'ay).
You also mentioned SUPAY as the lord of demons. He's like Satan and it's interesting Satan in all civilizations very often has a name starting with S like Egyptian SeT (with the T), Chinese SaTchi, Muslim ShiTan, Hebrew SiTin, Christian SaTan. The snake in Hebrew is nahash, in Sumerian was emash, in Mayan language the place of the snakes was nachαn and in Quechua language the snake is also sachamama, always the sound of ssssshhhh, the hissing sound of the snake S wrapped up in the T ... tree. As a matter of fact the very drawing of the letter S is like the movement of the snake and nothing is coincidence. That equivalent letter is taken with care in Hebrew.
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« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2007, 04:26:16 am »

In the beginning of this page you mentioned Gary Urton who discovered the Kipus/Quipus system of ropes and knots had a binary sistem that represented logographic and phonological data. This is the same anthropologist whom I referred in the page 1 when I wrote: "Gary Urton is a professor of anthropology from Harvard. He knows Quechua and has studied about 450 out of 600 Quipus available in museums in Peru, Chile, USA and Germany and discovered Quipus has a binary system code with a total of 1536 unities based upon number 7 EQUIVALENT TO SUMERIAN SCRIPTURE WITH 1500 SIGNS." And then kept on writing about proto-Sumerian scripture found in Peru and Bolivia. I went on comparing the Chinese with Sumerian and Inca language and math Rampsey's glyphs (dots & lines). Remembering the Chinese also had a system like Quipus, it's possible Quipus -like Chinese scripture- was a technique that also is related with astrology/astronomy.
I was thinking in something else too. The Bible has written for thousands of years what we read translated into our languages now. In Job 38:31 we read about the hooks or strings in Pleiades and untie the strings of Orion (suggesting an alteration of gravity, the loosening of strings). That's important cos we have thought the superstring theory of the universe is a "modern" idea. Pleiades was known for many ancient civilizations and for the Jews represented God's throne Mazzaroth, specially the biggest of the 7 stars: Alcyone or Eta Tauri.
It's very possible the shamans in Peru, Mexico or Egypt, etc, because of the combined use of hallucinogenic substances and the DeForMaTiOn of their skulls enhanced certain areas of the brain. We know this because we have examined the particularities and oddities of Einstein's brain allowing him more access between hemispheres. They indeed altered their brains and not just the skulls and the natural brain "antenna" catch more math reality and real creatures form interdimensional realms...like their gods...not symbols or archetypes. They actually saw what we can't very often with our weak visual system. They saw the superstrings and black holes and fractal geometry. Even myself I saw fractal geometry without any modern devices. And I just drank mushroom tea with Jurubeba liquor. Imagine if I intake with Ayahuasca, a little bit of chocolate, abit of blood or with mushrooms and have a DEFORMED SKULL AND BRAIN. Wow! What a way of being sto :one. I'm not as thought as you stone I am....
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