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The Significance of mtDNA Research
The mtDNA research confirms most of the other new findings in archaeology.
The Americas were settled early and many different racial groups came.
Several different waves of migration probably occurred.
The Initial wave seems to have occurred around 35,000 B.C. However, It may have been
far earlier since some of the recent radiocarbon dates that have emerged from areas like
California and the southwest point to 50,000 B.C.
But it must be kept in mind that mtDNA analysis is still in its infancy. Not all current Native
American tribes and very few remains have been tested. But the picture the mtDNA research
findings paint of ancient America is astonishing.
It may seem that the apparent widespread presence of the X type (from Canada and Washing-
ton State, to Arizona, to the Plains, to the Great Lakes area) could indicate a wide initial dis-
persal. However, the history of several of these tribes tells a different story.
The X type in ancient America appears to be linked to the Iroquois. This tribe, of course, was,
according to Cayce, partly the remnant of Atlantean survivors from its final destruction in
10,000 B.C. The finding of the X group In the north Gobi-dwelling Altasians is hailed as proof
that all American migrations came from Siberia via the Bering Straits, yet it seems unlikely.
With the X type being present in the Middle East, Europe, the ancient Basques, and America,
a migration from the Gobi to all of these areas is doubtful.
The Cayce readings cite a series of large and small migrations of Atlanteans to very specific
parts of the world. These migrations occurred at several times, but especially during the years
approaching 10,000 B.C. One of these places was to the Gobi in extreme southern Siberian Asia.
If we assume that haplotype X originated from Cayce's Atlantis, some of the X haplotype should
be found in the Gobi region — but very little of this group should be found elsewhere in Siberia.
This is what has been found.
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B Haplogroup may Originate from Mu
The B haplogroup, found only in aboriginal groups in Southeast Asia, China, Japan,
Melanesia, and Polynesia, may represent Cayce's people of Mu. Both Chinese and
Japanese archaeologists take the idea of Mu seriously, and the B haplogroup find-
ings closely match the story Cayce told about the continent.
Most of the people of Mu who escaped the destruction in 50,000 B.C. escaped to
China, India, and Japan.
Some time later, descendants of these peoples could have traveled to America.
While Cayce said that some people from Mu entered the Americas about 50,000
B.C., he did not indicate that date as the time period when the majority of them
came.
We only know that it was after 50,000 B.C. and prior to 28,000 B.C.
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A, C, & D Haplogroups - From Siberia?
The Cayce readings do indicate that people entered the Americas from both the east and
west in 28,000 B.C. These migrants came from Atlantis, China, and from "across the Pacific."
The 28,000 B.C. date matches well with the haplogroups A, B, C, and D proposed dates of
entry into America. The Cayce readings do have references to the Bering Straits, but Cayce
did not relate that there were migrations across it. In fact, no one ever thought to ask him
about this, so it remains an open question in the Cayce story.
But the A, C, and D haplogroups clearly originated in Siberia just as the archaeologists have
speculated. Cayce stated that the "yellow" or Mongol race of humanity originated In the
Gobi and gradually spread throughout Asia.
Thus, according to Cayce, haplogroups A, C, and D probably originated in the Gobi and
would be the migrations Cayce cited as coming from "across the Pacific".
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The Atlantean Haplogroup may be X
Cayce Indicated that the largest migration from Atlantis occurred just before 10,000 B.C.
The majority of these Atlantean survivors went to the Northeastern coastal areas of Ame-
rica and Canada becoming the Iroquois. It should be recalled that Cayce also stated that
not all of the Iroquois were Atlantean. The Atlanteans migrating to the Americas merged
with the people already present in America by that time.
The Atlanteans became leaders of the tribes. Cayce's story makes it clear that the the
Atlanteans had serious disputes among themselves that were reflected in ongoing violent
conflict (this was the struggle between the Belial and Law of One groups.) This is con-
firmed by the Iroquois' ancient history that tells of constant battles resulting in distant
displacements of entire tribes to ensure their survival.
Perhaps the most astonishing confirmation of Cayce's story of ancient America is the
presence of haplogroup X. What is known is that the X haplogroup first showed up in
America perhaps 34,000 years ago, but its main entry occurred in 10,000 B.C. These
dates match Cayce's timeframe for Atlantean migrations as well as the occurrence of
X in the specific tribes pre-dicted by his statements.
The X group also appears to have shown up in ancient Iberia and in the Basques about
the same time as well as in the Gobi.
These dates match Cayce's story of the final two destructions of Atlantis and the
resulting migrations to these areas.
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Gobi Desert Mysteries
China Pyramids & Mounds
from EdgarCayce Website
Gobi
The word Gobi appears 99 times on the Cayce CD ROM. It appears in under a 100 life readings.
Several readings call the Gobi the "Sun Land" and indicate that sun worship dominated
(2067-4; 2091-1.)
In March 1935 Cayce referred to a city buried under the sands of the Gobi (873-1) and in 1936
he called this city the "City of Gold." He also stated that this city would probably be discovered
in the future.
(877-12; 1554-3; 2402-2).
One characteristic of the Gobi civilization was the implementation of a social structure apparently
much like the Mississippian Era mound builders had (2067-4; 1505-1). The rulers were held in high
esteem and lived in temples. In a 1940 reading, Cayce referred to terraced buildings and temples
in the Gobi
(2067-4).
A group from the Gobi was identified as having DNA bearing the "X" Haplotype in 2001.
This group may be related to the Atlantean Genetic type and the Basques.
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DNA analysis on Native Americans began in the 1980s, but with rapid technological improvements, research intensified in the early 1990s, Several teams of genetics researchers at prominent American universities have been conducting numerous studies- Although results from early studies showed the expected Siberian-Asia ancestry of the majority of modern Native American tribes, things took an unexpected turn in 1997.
At that point it was found that a small percentage of modern Native Americans have an unusual type of DNA then known to exist only in a few locations in Europe and the Middle East. Subsequent research indicated that the European DNA was not the result of genetic mixing after Columbus. In addition, the same DNA was later found in the bone of an ancient American burial confirming that people carrying this unique DNA had entered America in ancient times. However, in July 2001, this unique gene was also found in a small tribe living in the northern Gobi Desert area.
The DNA research initially seemed to promise solid proof of not only where the ancient Americans came from, but also when they came. However, as might be expected, ancient DNA research has become a highly contentious issue with several competing sides.
Most of the DNA research on Native American Indians has been done utilizing mitochondria. Every cell In our body contains hundreds to thousands of these tiny, football-shaped organelles. The mitochondria process glucose (sugar) into a usable form of energy for all of our body's functions. The mitochondria are believed to be an evolutional form of bacteria that adapted into a symbiotic relationship with multi-celled life forms. Thus, the mitochondria have their own unique DNA, which is simpler and easier to analyze than the human DNA found in the nucleus.
Mitochondrial DNA (usually abbreviated as mtDNA) is passed to offspring only through the egg. Thus, it is not a combination of male and female genes. It is a haploid gene — meaning that it has only one dose of chromosomes. The haploid mitochondrial DNA shows only the female lineage of a person. Diploid genes are two sets of combined chromosomes, the female set coming from the egg, the male chromosomes from the sperm.
Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) is categorized into several types and groups termed haplotypes and haplogroups. That is, there are variations in the genetic code of mitochondria that fit into clusters. These clusters can trace lineage far back into time.
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There are 39 different, distinct mtDNA groups into which all humans fit and there are variations on these types.
While mtDNA analysis is not only easier than other forms of genetic testing, it has a further advantage. All DNA mutates over time. But mtDNA has a fairly steady rate of mutation that permits a reasonably accurate estimate of exactly when a particular group of people migrated from their primary group.
Thus, two important factors can be determined through analysis of mtDNA.
First, a living person (or the mtDNA from the remains of a deceased person) can be tested to determine the specific racial group from which the Individual came.
Secondly, the approximate time when that Individual's ancestors migrated from their primary racial group can be determined.
One way to view mtDNA testing is that it may be able to provide a racial family tree extending back to the beginning of humanity. The current idea in mtDNA analysis is that ancestry on the female side can eventually be traced back to a genetic "Eve." The 39 types of mtDNA were presumably derived from this Eve.
Whether this idea will be completely confirmed by research remains to be seen. However, mtDNA testing has confirmed several oral traditions passed down through many generations in several tribes. For example, the indigenous people of Hawaii and Polynesia have long asserted that their ancestors frequently traveled back and forth and that they shared ancestry.
Genetic testing showed that these two groups were related and confirmed the migratory legends of these peoples.
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Confirming the Siberian Migration
The first research on living Native American tribes showed they were comprised of four distinct
mtDNA haplogroups called A, B, C, and D. This means that the Native Americans are derived
from four different lineages. These haplogroups were also found in native populations in Central
and South America. Later mtDNA research utilizing ancient remains recovered in the Americas
validated these four haplogroups.
Three of these haplogroups, A, C, and D are found primarily in Siberian Asia. The B haplogroup,
however, is found only in aboriginal groups in Southeast Asia, China, Japan, Melanesia, and
Polynesia.
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Confirming a South Pacific and Japanese Migration
Based on the mutations found in the mtDNA, most researchers think that groups A, C, and D
entered America from Siberia across Beringia some time around 35,000 B.C. Group B, they
assert, probably came to America from the South Pacific or Japan via boats. It is believed
the B groups began this migration not long after the A, C, and D groups arrived. However,
the majority of the B group arrived about 11,000 B.C. This leaves open the possibility of
several migrations by the B group from different locations.
It should be noted that a few geneticists have proposed that each of these four haplogroups
came in four separate migrations. And many Clovis supporters argue that all the groups migrated together.
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An Unknown and Unexpected Migration Group Confirmed
In 1997, a fifth mtDNA haplogroup was identified in Native Americans.
This group, called "X," is present in three percent of living Native Americans, Haplogroup X was
not then found in Asia, but was found only in Europe and the Middle East where two to four
percent of the population carry it. In those areas, the X haplogroup has primarily been found
in parts of Spain, Bulgaria, Finland, Italy, and Israel.
In July 2001, a research letter was published in the American Journal of Human Genetics,
relating that a few people with the "X" type had been identified in a tribe located in extreme
southern Siberia. These people, called the Altasians, or Altaics as Russian geneticists refer
to them, have always lived in the Gobi Desert area. Archaeologists and geneticists are certain
that the presence of "X" in America is not the result of historic intermarriages. It is of ancient
origin. In addition, the "X" type has now been found in the ancient remains of the Basque.
Among Native American tribes, the X haplogroup has been found in small numbers in the
Yakima, Sioux, and Navaho tribes. It has been found to a larger degree in the Ojibway,
Oneota, and Nuu-Chah-Nulth tribes. The X haplogroup has also been discovered in ancient
remains in Illinois near Ohio and a few other areas near the Great Lakes. It has not (so far)
been found In South or Central American tribes including the Maya.
The X haplogroup appears to have entered America in limited numbers perhaps as long ago
as 34,000 B.C. Around 12,000 B.C. to 10,000 B.C. it appeared in much greater numbers.
It is important to note that not all Native American tribes have been categorized by mtDNA
analysis and that relatively few ancient remains have been tested.
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The Significance of mtDNA Research
The mtDNA research confirms most of the other new findings in archaeology. The Americas
were settled early and many different racial groups came. Several different waves of migrat-
ion probably occurred. The Initial wave seems to have occurred around 35,000 B.C. However,
It may have been far earlier since some of the recent radiocarbon dates that have emerged
from areas like California and the southwest point to 50,000 B.C.
But it must be kept in mind that mtDNA analysis is still in its infancy. Not all current Native
American tribes and very few remains have been tested. But the picture the mtDNA research
findings paint of ancient America is astonishing.
It may seem that the apparent widespread presence of the X type (from Canada and Washington State, to Arizona, to the Plains, to the Great Lakes area) could indicate a wide initial dispersal. However, the history of several of these tribes tells a different story.
The X type in ancient America appears to be linked to the Iroquois. This tribe, of course, was, according to Cayce, partly the remnant of Atlantean survivors from its final destruction in
10,000 B.C. The finding of the X group In the north Gobi-dwelling Altasians is hailed as proof
that all American migrations came from Siberia via the Bering Straits, yet it seems unlikely.
With the X type being present in the Middle East, Europe, the ancient Basques, and America,
a migration from the Gobi to all of these areas is doubtful.
The Cayce readings cite a series of large and small migrations of Atlanteans to very specific
parts of the world. These migrations occurred at several times, but especially during the years approaching 10,000 B.C. One of these places was to the Gobi in extreme southern Siberian Asia.
If we assume that haplotype X originated from Cayce's Atlantis, some of the X haplotype should
be found in the Gobi region — but very little of this group should be found elsewhere in Siberia.
This is what has been found.
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B Haplogroup may Originate from Mu
The B haplogroup, found only in aboriginal groups in Southeast Asia, China, Japan, Mela-
nesia, and Polynesia, may represent Cayce's people of Mu. Both Chinese and Japanese
archaeologists take the idea of Mu seriously, and the B haplogroup findings closely match
the story Cayce told about the continent. Most of the people of Mu who escaped the des-
truction in 50,000 B.C. escaped to China, India, and Japan.
Some time later, descendants of these peoples could have traveled to America. While Cayce
said that some people from Mu entered the Americas about 50,000 B.C., he did not indicate
that date as the time period when the majority of them came.
We only know that it was after 50,000 B.C. and prior to 28,000 B.C.
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A, C, & D Haplogroups - From Siberia?
The Cayce readings do indicate that people entered the Americas from both the east and
west in 28,000 B.C. These migrants came from Atlantis, China, and from "across the Pacific."
The 28,000 B.C. date matches well with the haplogroups A, B, C, and D proposed dates of
entry into America. The Cayce readings do have references to the Bering Straits, but Cayce
did not relate that there were migrations across it. In fact, no one ever thought to ask him
about this, so it remains an open question in the Cayce story.
But the A, C, and D haplogroups clearly originated in Siberia just as the archaeologists have
speculated. Cayce stated that the "yellow" or Mongol race of humanity originated In the Gobi
and gradually spread throughout Asia.
Thus, according to Cayce, haplogroups A, C, and D probably originated in the Gobi and would
be the migrations Cayce cited as coming from "across the Pacific".
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The Atlantean Haplogroup may be X
Cayce Indicated that the largest migration from Atlantis occurred just before 10,000 B.C. The majority
of these Atlantean survivors went to the Northeastern coastal areas of America and Canada becoming
the Iroquois. It should be recalled that Cayce also stated that not all of the Iroquois were Atlantean.
The Atlanteans migrating to the Americas merged with the people already present in America by that
time.
The Atlanteans became leaders of the tribes. Cayce's story makes it clear that the the Atlanteans had
serious disputes among themselves that were reflected in ongoing violent conflict (this was the struggle
between the Belial and Law of One groups.) This is confirmed by the Iroquois' ancient history that tells
of constant battles resulting in distant displacements of entire tribes to ensure their survival.
Perhaps the most astonishing confirmation of Cayce's story of ancient America is the presence of haplo-
group X. What is known is that the X haplogroup first showed up in America perhaps 34,000 years ago,
but its main entry occurred in 10,000 B.C. These dates match Cayce's timeframe for Atlantean migrations
as well as the occurrence of X in the specific tribes predicted by his statements. The X group also appears
to have shown up in ancient Iberia and in the Basques about the same time as well as in the Gobi.
These dates match Cayce's story of the final two destructions of Atlantis and the resulting migrations to
these areas.
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The battle of the Sons of Light and the Sons of Darkness
The Twins — like the Devas and Asuras of the Hindus and the Sons of Light and the Sons of Darkness of the Essenians — are always the personifications of the two races that dispute world hegemony since the dawn of times. It was their war, according to Plato — who calls them "Greeks" and Atlanteans — that led to the destruction of Atlantis.
There is no reason to doubt that the great philosopher was indeed transmitting ancient traditions faithfully. For, we are starting to learn all over again that global wars can indeed lead to the world's end. In fact, it is the same endless war that menaces us now as it did at the dawn of times. This frightening reality is told in the Ramayana, in the Mahabharata and in the Iliad, not to mention the other myths and traditions.
But the war of Atlantis is also the War of Armageddon narrated in the Book of Revelation. This war is in reality a repetition or replica of the worldwide, primordial battle between Gods and Devils. These mighty beings were the same as the so-called Titans (or Giants) in Greece. Their war was, as Plato and his commentators explain in detail, the same as the one of Atlantis.
Armageddon means (in Hebrew) the same as Shambhalla (in Sanskrit), "the Plains of Gathering". There the armies of the world will gather, in the end of times, for "the war that is to end all wars", for it will close the Kali Yuga. The perspective indeed seems frighteningly real, doesn't it indeed? Fables or Reality? Religion or Profanity? Science or Superstitious Nonsense? We are inclined to believe that our ancestors spoke in earnest, and that the war of Armaggedon and the end of the world are fast becoming all too real possibilities.
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=> UFO's
=> Aliens & Alien Abduction
=> UFO Evidence & in the Media
=> Alternate History & Multiverses
=> Future Science
=> Time Travel
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the Occult
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=> Ghosts & Apparitions
=> Communicating with the Dead
=> Paranormal Events, Reincarnation & Near Death Experiences
=> the Enchanted World
=> the Supernatural
=> the Occult
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the Unexplained
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=> Cryptozoology
=> Bigfoot Sightings
=> the Unexplained
=> the Hollow Earth, Crop Circles, Strange Structures & Devices
=> Vanishings & Unsolved Murders
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Science Fiction & Fantasy
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=> Lord of the Rings
=> Science Fiction
=> King Kong, Gigantopithecus & the Mountain Gorilla
=> Godzilla, King of Monsters
=> Comic Books
===> Comic Book Creators
===> Videogames & Toys
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Halloween & Seasonal
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=> Halloween
=> Seasonal
=> Monsters of Myth, Movies & Folklore
=> Ghost Stories
=> the Zombie Apocalypse
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Genres of Film & Literature
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=> Universal Horror
=> H. P. Lovecraft
=> Horror
=> Dark Shadows
=> Twin Peaks
=> Online Horror Movies Sci-Fi & TV Series
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Arts & Literature
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=> Online Books & Research Papers
=> Classical Literature & Book Reviews
=> Art History
=> Architecture
=> Sculpture & Statuary
=> the Great Masters
=> Music
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Media & Film
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=> Cinema
=> the History of Film
=> Marilyn Monroe
=> Actresses & Models
=> Entertainment News
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Modern Historical Mysteries
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=> American History
===> Presidents of the United States
=> the World Wars
===> the Great Depression
=> the Holocaust
=> the Middle East: Past & Present
=> Modern History
===> the Industrial Age
===> Civil Rights
=> Great Cities of the World
=> the Kennedys: Their History & Assasinations
=> New York City: Then & Now
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September 11th, 2001
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=> September 11th: Conspiracies, Cover-ups & Remembrance
=> The World Trade Center Remembered
===> Life of the Twin Towers
=> Modern Warfare
=> Environmental Disasters & Mass Tragedies
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Suppressed Knowledge
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=> New World Order
=> Conspiracies
=> Suppressed Knowledge
=> Media Matters
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Politics
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=> the Barack Obama Administration
=> Conservatives, Trump, & Republican Politics
=> Joe Biden, Democratic Politics & News
=> Tea Party, Constitution, Libertarian Parties & Ron Paul
=> Politics & News
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Current Events
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=> Current Events & Odd Stories
=> The World Today
=> Financial News & the Economy
===> The History of Labor
=> Breaking News
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General Category
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=> Opinions & Editorials
=> Cartoons, Humor & Comic Strips
=> Ecology, Pets & the Animal Kingdom
=> General & Miscellaneous
=> Sports
=> Computers & the Internet
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Art, Graphics & Creative Writing
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=> Fantasy Art & Graphics
=> Creative Writing
===> Horror Fiction
=> Poetry
=> Photography & Models
=> Earth Images
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Past Events
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=> Case for Bush Impeachment/War Crimes
===> Bush Administration Torture Scandal
=> Campaign 2008
=> Atlantis Online - Memorial & Biography
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