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« Reply #60 on: September 25, 2007, 01:26:10 am »

Merl,

This should be easy to figure out if you know where to look.  I don't,  maybe you do.  I don't know where the "hole" is occurring although I have done some research on the location of the constellation Eridanus,  which appears to be near Orion.  That is interesting in and of itself considering the Egyptians focused a lot of attention on Orion indicating that had some connection to their origin.

A key sentence appears which says......."When the angle of observation is propitious, gazing through the main body of this realm of maximum density, you are looking toward the residential universe and the center of all things."

In context this reads........




15:3. THE SUPERUNIVERSE OF ORVONTON

15:3.1 Practically all of the starry realms visible to the naked eye on Urantia belong to the seventh section of the grand universe, the superuniverse of Orvonton. The vast Milky Way  starry system represents the central nucleus of Orvonton, being largely beyond the borders of your local universe. This great aggregation of suns, dark islands of space, double stars, globular clusters, star clouds, spiral and other nebulae, together with myriads of individual planets, forms a watchlike, elongated-circular grouping of about one seventh of the inhabited evolutionary universes.

15:3.2 From the astronomical position of Urantia, as you look through the cross section of near-by systems to the great  Milky Way , you observe that the spheres of Orvonton are traveling in a vast elongated plane, the breadth being far greater than the thickness and the length far greater than the breadth.

15:3.3 Observation of the so-called  Milky Way  discloses the comparative increase in Orvonton stellar density when the heavens are viewed in one direction, while on either side the density diminishes; the number of stars and other spheres decreases away from the chief plane of our material superuniverse. When the angle of observation is propitious, gazing through the main body of this realm of maximum density, you are looking toward the residential universe and the center of all things.

15:3.4 Of the ten major divisions of Orvonton, eight have been roughly identified by Urantian astronomers. The other two are difficult of separate recognition because you are obliged to view these phenomena from the inside. If you could look upon the superuniverse of Orvonton from a position far-distant in space, you would immediately recognize the ten major sectors of the seventh galaxy.

15:3.5 The rotational center of your minor sector is situated far away in the enormous and dense star cloud of Sagittarius, around which your local universe and its associated creations all move, and from opposite sides of the vast Sagittarius subgalactic system you may observe two great streams of star clouds emerging in stupendous stellar coils.

15:3.6 The nucleus of the physical system to which your sun and its associated planets belong is the center of the onetime Andronover nebula. This former spiral nebula was slightly distorted by the gravity disruptions associated with the events which were attendant upon the birth of your solar system, and which were occasioned by the near approach of a large neighboring nebula. This near collision changed Andronover into a somewhat globular aggregation but did not wholly destroy the two-way procession of the suns and their associated physical groups. Your solar system now occupies a fairly central position in one of the arms of this distorted spiral, situated about halfway from the center out towards the edge of the star stream.

15:3.7 The Sagittarius sector and all other sectors and divisions of Orvonton are in rotation around Uversa, and some of the confusion of Urantian star observers arises out of the illusions and relative distortions produced by the following multiple revolutionary movements:


1.   The revolution of Urantia around its sun.

2.   The circuit of your solar system about the nucleus of the former Andronover nebula.

3.   The rotation of the Andronover stellar family and the associated clusters about the composite rotation-gravity center of the star cloud of Nebadon.

4.   The swing of the local star cloud of Nebadon and its associated creations around the Sagittarius center of their minor sector.

5.   The rotation of the one hundred minor sectors, including Sagittarius, about their major sector.

6.   The whirl of the ten major sectors, the so-called star drifts, about the Uversa headquarters of Orvonton.

7.   The movement of Orvonton and six associated superuniverses around Paradise and Havona, the counterclockwise processional of the superuniverse space level.

15:3.8 These multiple motions are of several orders: The space paths of your planet and your solar system are genetic, inherent in origin. The absolute counterclockwise motion of Orvonton is also genetic, inherent in the architectural plans of the master universe. But the intervening motions are of composite origin, being derived in part from the constitutive segmentation of matter-energy into the superuniverses and in part produced by the intelligent and purposeful action of the Paradise force organizers.

15:3.9 The local universes are in closer proximity as they approach Havona; the circuits are greater in number, and there is increased superimposition, layer upon layer. But farther out from the eternal center there are fewer and fewer systems, layers, circuits, and universes.


So,  if this "hole is appearing beyond the center of the Milky Way it is a good indication that we have discovered the Paradise center of all things.  If not,  then it is a mysterious anomoly as predicted by your excerpt.  I don't understand why you consider it vague.  It seems pretty clear to me.  Smiley
Furthermore it is explained in detail here.  I thought you said you read this.  I don't know how any description could be less vague.  You could use the term incredible or amazing or unbelievable,  but certainly not vague.

http://urantiabook.org/newbook/papers/p011.htm

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I am simply highlighting what "real prophecy" should look like if it were written by those who truly understood. 

This is such an arrogant statement Merl,  Trust me,  they do understand and you are being quite presumptious suggesting what real prophecy should look like.  Besides,  we are not talking about prophecy.  There is a difference between prophecy and revelation.  I suppose now you want to theorize about what real revelation should look like.  Smiley
What do you want everything on a silver platter?   You know why it was done the way it was.

You and I both know there was no "Big Bang" and String theory is a parlor game for theoretical physicists similar to astrology for the superstitious  astronomy wannabees who wish everyone to be as confused and ignorant as they are.

BTW  nice to see you back.  Wish I was more of a challenge to you.  C'est la vie.
I was thinking about black holes the other day and wonder if there is any difference between them and what is happening in the center of my bathtub drain as the water drains or what is happening in the center of a hurricane eye which is completely calm.



 15:4.2 The Paradise force organizers transmute space potency into primordial force and evolve this prematerial potential into the primary and secondary energy manifestations of physical reality. When this energy attains gravity-responding levels, the power directors and their associates of the superuniverse regime appear upon the scene and begin their never-ending manipulations designed to establish the manifold power circuits and energy channels of the universes of time and space. Thus does physical matter appear in space, and so is the stage set for the inauguration of universe organization.

15:4.3 This segmentation of energy is a phenomenon which has never been solved by the physicists of Nebadon. Their chief difficulty lies in the relative inaccessibility of the Paradise force organizers, for the living power directors, though they are competent to deal with space-energy, do not have the least conception of the origin of the energies they so skillfully and intelligently manipulate.

15:4.4 Paradise force organizers are nebulae originators; they are able to initiate about their space presence the tremendous cyclones of force which, when once started, can never be stopped or limited until the all-pervading forces are mobilized for the eventual appearance of the ultimatonic units of universe matter. Thus are brought into being the spiral and other nebulae, the mother wheels of the direct-origin suns and their varied systems. In outer space there may be seen ten different forms of nebulae, phases of primary universe evolution, and these vast energy wheels had the same origin as did those in the seven superuniverses.




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Just wait until the Big Bang is nixed and the idea that the universe is infinitely old is realized...  Then people will claim I'm walking on water and turning it into wine.

  Merl,  I posted this a few posts back.   Some of us do realize that the universe is nearly infinitely old;  certainly more than 13 billion years.   How long do you think it will take science to begin to approach the 987 billion year figure? And that is for the youngest of the 7 superuniverses,...ours.  There's quite a difference between 13b  and 987b.  That's pretty wierd.  What could be causing such a great discrepency except the 2 billion year space respiration cycle which science still doesn't have any idea about besides big bang/big crunch theory. 
 LOL 



 987,000,000,000 years ago associate force organizer and then acting inspector number 811,307 of the Orvonton series, traveling out from Uversa, reported to the Ancients of Days that space conditions were favorable for the initiation of materialization phenomena in a certain sector of the, then, easterly segment of Orvonton.

          900,000,000,000 years ago the Uversa archives testify, there was recorded a permit issued by the Uversa Council of Equilibrium to the superuniverse government authorizing the dispatch of a force organizer and staff to the region previously designated by inspector number 811,307. The Orvonton authorities commissioned the original discoverer of this potential universe to execute the mandate of the Ancients of Days calling for the organization of a new material creation.



The recording of this permit signifies that the force organizer and staff had already departed from Uversa on the long journey to that easterly space sector where they were subsequently to engage in those protracted activities which would terminate in the emergence of a new physical creation in Orvonton.

          875,000,000,000 years ago the enormous Andronover nebula number 876,926 was duly initiated. Only the presence of the force organizer and the liaison staff was required to inaugurate the energy whirl which eventually grew into this vast cyclone of space. Subsequent to the initiation of such nebular revolutions, the living force organizers simply withdraw at right angles to the plane of the revolutionary disk, and from that time forward, the inherent qualities of energy insure the progressive and orderly evolution of such a new physical system.




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