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« Reply #45 on: May 07, 2007, 08:06:00 pm »

Merlin,

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If this were truly "divine revelation" - I would have expected to hear about the truly fundamental objects that make up the atomic structure, and a correct description of how that process worked.

While studying Stefan Tallqvist's site....   http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/adslfor/     I ran across this in Physics today which I wasn't aware of before.


- in Physics Today, October 1983, page 19, we read: "There are about 100 low-energy neutrinos and antineutrinos per cubic cm in the Universe today,...

         vs.

1934   UB p. 473 : "The most nearly empty space known in Nebadon would yield about one hundred ultimatons - the equivalent
          of one electron - in each cubic inch."


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Now, if we wish to talk about Neutrinos as the "tiny neutral particles", then we have a problem.  We know that there are no suns made from neutrinos.  However, I should point out that neutrinos were not first theorized in '32 or '33.  They were theorized in 1922 and not written about by Pauli until 1930; finally published in 1931.  Mathematical proof was given in 1933-1934 accepted by the German and Italian science journals.  Enrico named it in 1934, "little neutral one" in Italian:  Neutrino.  The American/English Journals did not accept the publication until 1938 (published 1939), but they did so because the paper(s) had already been in the country in 12 different languages for the past 5 years - and then there was the Nobel Prize for his work in 1938...  Yep - the Americans and Brits blew it big time by excluding him, only to accept it after the rest of the world had, and had rewarded him with the Top Prize.   Wolfgang got his prize 7 years later.

Anyway, the fact that the neutrinos weren't actually detected until 1955 and reported in '56 isn't important; mathematically, everyone knew that they were there...  Only our technology had to catch up with our science. 
................... I am not surprised that the UB is very vague on the topics...  Had they waited until the 50s to publish, their science would have been a bit more correct.  All-in-all, the science of the UB remains in the 30s-40s, and inaccurate.


Merl,   according to what you say above it seems to contradict the vast quantity of information contained in the Ubook about the neutrino/ultimaton.




P476:5, 42:6.3 Ultimatons function by mutual attraction, responding only to the circular Paradise-gravity pull. Without linear-gravity response they are thus held in the universal space drift. Ultimatons are capable of accelerating revolutionary velocity to the point of partial antigravity behavior, but they cannot, independent of force organizers or power directors, attain the critical escape velocity of deindividuation, return to the puissant-energy stage. In nature, ultimatons escape the status of physical existence only when participating in the terminal disruption of a cooled-off and dying sun.


P476:6, 42:6.4 The ultimatons, unknown on Urantia, slow down through many phases of physical activity before they attain the revolutionary-energy prerequisites to electronic organization. Ultimatons have three varieties of motion: mutual resistance to cosmic force, individual revolutions of antigravity potential, and the intraelectronic positions of the one hundred mutually interassociated ultimatons.

P476:7, 42:6.5 Mutual attraction holds one hundred ultimatons together in the constitution of the electron; and there are never more nor less than one hundred ultimatons in a typical electron. The loss of one or more ultimatons destroys typical electronic identity, thus bringing into existence one of the ten modified forms of the electron.

P476:8, 42:6.6 Ultimatons do not describe orbits or whirl about in circuits within the electrons, but they do spread or cluster in accordance with their axial revolutionary velocities, thus determining the differential electronic dimensions. This same ultimatonic velocity of axial revolution also determines the negative or positive reactions of the several types of electronic units. The entire segregation and grouping of electronic matter, together with the electric differentiation of negative and positive bodies of energy-matter, result from these various functions of the component ultimatonic interassociation.



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42:7.4 The local universes are of decimal construction. There are just one hundred distinguishable atomic materializations of space-energy in a dual universe; that is the maximum possible organization of matter in Nebadon. These one hundred forms of matter consist of a regular series in which from one to one hundred electrons revolve around a central and relatively compact nucleus. It is this orderly and dependable association of various energies that constitutes matter.

42:7.5 Not every world will show one hundred recognizable elements at the surface, but they are somewhere present, have been present, or are in process of evolution. Conditions surrounding the origin and subsequent evolution of a planet determine how many of the one hundred atomic types will be observable. The heavier atoms are not found on the surface of many worlds. Even on Urantia the known heavier elements manifest a tendency to fly to pieces, as is illustrated by radium behavior.

42:7.6 Stability of the atom depends on the number of electrically inactive neutrons in the central body. Chemical behavior is wholly dependent on the activity of the freely revolving electrons.

42:7.7 In Orvonton it has never been possible naturally to assemble over one hundred orbital electrons in one atomic system. When one hundred and one have been artificially introduced into the orbital field, the result has always been the instantaneous disruption of the central proton with the wild dispersion of the electrons and other liberated energies.

42:7.8 While atoms may contain from one to one hundred orbital electrons, only the outer ten electrons of the larger atoms revolve about the central nucleus as distinct and discrete bodies, intactly and compactly swinging around on precise and definite orbits. The thirty electrons nearest the center are difficult of observation or detection as separate and organized bodies. This same comparative ratio of electronic behavior in relation to nuclear proximity obtains in all atoms regardless of the number of electrons embraced. The nearer the nucleus, the less there is of electronic individuality. The wavelike energy extension of an electron may so spread out as to occupy the whole of the lesser atomic orbits; especially is this true of the electrons nearest the atomic nucleus.

42:7.9 The thirty innermost orbital electrons have individuality, but their energy systems tend to intermingle, extending from electron to electron and well-nigh from orbit to orbit. The next thirty electrons constitute the second family, or energy zone, and are of advancing individuality, bodies of matter exerting a more complete control over their attendant energy systems. The next thirty electrons, the third energy zone, are still more individualized and circulate in more distinct and definite orbits. The last ten electrons, present in only the ten heaviest elements, are possessed of the dignity of independence and are, therefore, able to escape more or less freely from the control of the mother nucleus. With a minimum variation in temperature and pressure, the members of this fourth and outermost group of electrons will escape from the grasp of the central nucleus, as is illustrated by the spontaneous disruption of uranium and kindred elements.

42:7.10 The first twenty-seven atoms, those containing from one to twenty-seven orbital electrons, are more easy of comprehension than the rest. From twenty-eight upward we encounter more and more of the unpredictability of the supposed presence of the Unqualified Absolute. But some of this electronic unpredictability is due to differential ultimatonic axial revolutionary velocities and to the unexplained "huddling" proclivity of ultimatons. Other influences -- physical, electrical, magnetic, and gravitational -- also operate to produce variable electronic behavior. Atoms therefore are similar to persons as to predictability. Statisticians may announce laws governing a large number of either atoms or persons but not for a single individual atom or person.


ultimatons (42:6.2-6)[476¶4],. See also atoms; matter
100 in an electron, held together by mutual attraction (42:3.3)[472¶1], (42:4.6)[473¶4], (42:6.4)[476¶6]
Associate Master Force Organizers and Universe Power Directors can speed up u. to return to puissant energy (42:6.3)[476¶5]
cold organizes u. into electrons (42:4.5,7)[473¶3]
critical level of condensation causes explosion (41:3.6)[458¶6], (41:7.Cool[464¶2]
energy is stored when u. slow down to become electrons (42:5.4)[474¶8]
energy particles; prime physical units of material existence (42:3.3)[472¶1], (42:4.Cool[473¶6]
escape physical existence only in terminal disruption of suns (42:6.3)[476¶5]
exhibit mutual resistance to absoluta (42:6.4)[476¶6]
first measurable form of energy (42:1.2)[467¶4]
have Paradise as nucleus (42:1.2)[467¶4]
leakage from suns (41:9.1)[465¶1]
morontia material created by modifying primary units of matter (48:1.3)[541¶6]
originate in force-charge of space (15:4.1)[169¶1]
primary associators manipulate (29:4.26)[328¶2]
proceed in direct lines through space (42:5.14)[475¶10]
respond to mutual attraction and Paradise gravity, but not linear gravity when unassociated (41:9.2)[465¶2], (42:4.3)[473¶1], (42:6.2-6)[476¶4]
revolutionary velocity can be accelerated to partial antigravity (42:4.10)[473¶8], (42:6.3,4)[476¶5]
solar heat and pressure cannot convert u. back into puissant energy (41:7.5)[463¶5], (42:4.Cool[473¶6], (42:6.3)[476¶5]
spread or cluster in accordance with axial revolutionary velocities; do not orbit (42:6.4,6)[476¶6], (42:7.3,10)[477¶5]
Supreme Power Centers transmute into electrons (42:4.3)[473¶1]

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