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Jake
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« on: November 04, 2007, 07:18:27 pm »

Something to think about.

I always found it odd that none of thier factories/chemical plants were bombed during WWII.

http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/open_letters/open_letter_2007_07_20.html

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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2007, 03:12:39 am »

Tens of Thousands of Historical Documents Online for the First Time:

Oil and Drug Cartel Behind WWII
Nuremberg Records Reveal

After six decades of silence, the historic records of the key war crimes tribunal that determined the responsibility for WWII is finally being made available to a world audience. Currently, history books teach that WWII was launched by a lunatic dictator, Hitler, and his ruthless Nazi henchmen.

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WWII – a war that cost the lives of more than 60 million people – was planned and financed by the world’s largest chemical/ pharmaceutical cartel. At that time Germany’s IG Farben consisted of Bayer, BASF, Hoechst and others.
The driving force behind WWII was IG Farben’s ambition to achieve control of the global oil and drug markets and eliminate, by force, any competition.
The IG Farben companies financed the rise to power of the Nazi party and the transformation of German democracy into a dictatorship.
The Nazi/IG Farben coalition’s plan for world domination had three stages: first, the conquest of the Eurasian continent; second, the take-over of Great Britain and all of its colonies; third, the military defeat of the USA and the rest of the world.

As everybody knows, the Nazi/IG Farben coalition’s plan for world domination was destroyed by the efforts of the great majority of nations of the world and the extraordinary sacrifices they made.

While this victory was important for all mankind, the newly emerging post-war order was already influenced by the oil and drug interests from the victorious countries:

The shares of the IG Farben cartel went to their economic competitors in the victorius countries.
The corporate executives of the IG Farben cartel – after a mere ”reprimand” at Nuremberg – were soon reinstated by the new owners of the IG Farben shares in the USA and the UK to help them consolidate the oil and drug cartel at a global level.
However, these important facts have essentially been concealed from the people of the world, who were made to believe that with the first Nuremberg trial – against the military and political stakeholders – the ”main war criminals” had been brought to justice.

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Telford Taylor, US Chief Prosecutor at the Nuremberg War Crimes Tribunal against the executives of the oil and drug cartel, IG Farben
”The crimes with which these men are charged were not committed in rage or under the stress of sudden temptation. One does not build a stupendous war machine in a fit of passion nor an Auschwitz factory during a passing spasm of brutality. Their purpose was to turn the German nation into a military machine so it could impose her dominion on Europe and other nations beyond the seas. They were the warp and woof of the dark mantle of death that settled over Europe.”

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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2007, 03:13:23 am »

Great find, Jake.
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« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2007, 02:28:22 pm »

Are we yet again being asked to take a inch and believe a mile in rhetoric?  Are we to suppose that Great Britain was also in this secret deal with the US meaning the RAF considered these targets off bounds? 

Military targets are proposed for attention on a threat basis. Why was Ploesti, the largest refinery complex on the planet repeatedly attacked?  It was the largest refinery complex on the planet, that's why.  After the commencement of USAAF 8th AF missions over the Reich German industry immediately dispersed its physical assets.  By 1944 all German industry had actually increased production despite being vigorously attacked by the RAF and USAF!  Every industry, not simply petroleum.

Refineries that were geographically split into workable components were soon producing again since only parts of them were out of commission after bombing often times.  The same goes for other industries as well.  That's why dispersion works. Petroleum complexes were scheduled for 8th AF attention on a size/threat basis.

Of course the brief article doesn't offer any comprehensive lists of alleged Farben petro facilities and others in each of their geographic areas.  I'm not of a mind to wade into the main sight but that is what it would take to show that a prime target was spared and a lesser target nearby was attacked...if that data exists in there.

And if a finite number of petro complexes were purposefully spared why weren't they contributing to output for fuel for the Reich's vehicles.  Why were they producing fuel from coal near the end?  Was that part of an elaborate plot's groundwork that would make it look good to casual viewers decades hence?

And if there allegedly was such outrage against manufacturing principles by the prosecutor why did Albert Speer get such a light sentence compared to death?  Why weren't Willy Messerschmitt, Krupp, Heinkel and all the rest of the owners of manufacturing plants prosecuted en masse?

To believe that a collusion existed to the extent that certain facilities were purposefully exempted attention from the RAF and USAF is stupendous.  How can one state "I  always found it odd that none of thier factories/chemical plants were bombed during WWII."  How does anyone know that?  It is utterly impossible, 6 decades later, to know all of their facilities locations and their fate versus execution of Allied battle plans.  Where is the list?  Show half a dozen instances where RAF or USAF briefings ever mentioned that any production facility was off limits while any other nearby lesser facility was targeted.  You can't because the evidence doesn't exist because it never happened.
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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2007, 12:27:42 am »

Some good reading material:
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'The Crime and Punishment of I.G.Farben', by Joseph Borkin
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'I.G.Farben', by Richard Sasuly (U.S. military officer in charge of the end of the war survey of Farben.).
"...for example, the Nazi chemical octopus, I.G. Farben, was NOT bombed and was 93 per cent intact at the end of the conflict."
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http://www.whale.to/b/hitler.html
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"...It has long been rumored, but never proven, that Farben received favored treatment — i.e., that it was not bombed. James Stewart Martin comments as follows on favored treatment received by I.G. Farben in the bombing of Germany:

Shortly after the armies reached the Rhine at Cologne, we were driving along the west bank within sight of the undamaged I.G. Farben plant at Leverkusen across the river. Without knowing anything about me or my business he (the jeep driver) began to give me a lecture about I.G. Farben and to point at the con. trast between the bombed-out city of Cologne and the trio of untouched plants on the fringe: the Ford works and the United Rayon works on the west bank, and the Farben works on the east bank..5

While this accusation is very much of an open question, requiring a great deal of skilled research into the U.S.A.A.F. bombing records, other aspects of favoritism for the Nazis are well recorded."
http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_street/chapter_11.htm
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'The Myth of the Good War: America in the Second World War',
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Show half a dozen instances where RAF or USAF briefings ever mentioned that any production facility was off limits while any other nearby lesser facility was targeted.

The RAF & USAAF briefings for the most part pertained to the targets, not necessarily any "off limits" buildings. We did not have (to my knowledge) any free roaming bombers flying the skies over Germany looking for targets of opportunity. They were all dedicated bombing missions.

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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2007, 11:00:15 am »

One has to prove that during an Allied briefing it was stated that a facility was off limits while an adjacient target was not.   Because of collateral damage being a real threat one must prove that nearby buildings were spared on purpose.  WW II bombing wasn't that accurate to guarantee pinpoint accuracy.  If one wishes to believe the manufacture's propaganda about the norden bombsight and it's pickle barrel accuracy go ahead, but keep inmind that fully 50% of the bombs dropped missed their targets.

And there were, by the way, a multitude of aircraft involved in targets of opputunity.  Every USAF escort fighter had full rein to engage any enemy target while returning home.  Any fighter-bomber that could not hit the main target would hit any enemy target when possible.  Heavy bombers that had mechanical problems forcing them to tun back dumped ordnance into enemy facilities not so targeted.  When heavies hit by flak and attacking aircraft lost engines forcing the salvoing of their loads they most certainly didn't do anything more than make sure they weren't over a hospital before dumping them.  They aimed for some target whenever possible in those circumstances.

Manufacturing a plot with banks and financial instutions is a weak idea.  Most of the governments, including GB, were involved in international commerce.  The same held true for Iraq and does now for Iran.  They are engaged in legal international business with holdings in many foreign countries.

How can anyone possibly imagine that after a 1,000 plane bomber raid when 3-4,000 aggressive fighter pilots were turned loose to destroy everything that moved in the Reich that they refrained from lobbing ordnance into certain facilities?  For Chrissake they killed horses pulling wagons and would have loved to see a petrochemical facility go boom even more.

Constructing imaginery links to a bunch of unsubstantiated quasi-occult Masons yet again in some ridiculous plot seeming condoned by the whole underworld is simply more accusatory sillyness.  I don't care if Hitler and Churchill traded stamps during the war. Taking a conglamoration of "facts" and then building a fairytale around them isn't proof of anything. 

Allied air crew engaged targets of opportunity on a daily basis completely independent of superiors' control.  That alone should tell you that any BS built on the cooperation of every Allied airman in the ETO, No. Africian, and Mediteranean theaters is impossible.
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