Plato's Atlantis My Theory

[Qoais]

Even the Taoism religion a sect of Zoastrisiom has four Holy artifacts. The Four Bronze Mirrors of the first century. A trace of a type of communication system was mentioned in the 13th century traveler Marco Polo account of his visit to the Far East. The account mentions that the Emperor of China was alerted to Polo's arrival by sunlight reflected by mirrors between mountaintops along Polo's route.

The Celtic people of Wales and Ireland used the blinker type of code in Europe. This code system is called Oghams and is formed by incising from one to five straight strokes above or below or both above and below the base line. Again a Trinary type of code system or blinker code system

The piece of stroke that is above the line the stroke would equal a Morris code DOT and is the same as used for the letter E

If the piece of stroke was below the line that stroke would be a Morris Code DASH is the same as used for the letter T A short dash

When the stroke was on both sides of the line the symbol would be a long dash like the letter L a long Dash.

However each country might have its own way to write it down. So how far could it go

A good-looking woman named Helen (the wife of Menelmaus, King of Sparta) got the Ancient world in to a twist almost 3100 years ago after she was kidnapped: Menelmaus, Agamemnon and the Greek army went to Troy to free her. Even as the siege ensued, another woman waited in her palace, back at Mycennae in Greece for word of the battle. Her name was Clytemnestra, sister in-law to Helen and the unfaithful wife of Agamemnon the Commander of the Greek forces. Agamemnon had aggravated the problems with Troy by stealing Chryemneis , the daughter of one of the priests of Troy.
Clytemnestra was over 450 miles from Troy by land and 250 miles by a land-sea route. As she paced back and forth, she wondered how long must she wait for news of the siege . If Caesar Augustus's (27 BC to 14 AD) Postal System had been available to her, it would have taken four and a half days to make the trip from Troy, with an average speed of one hundred miles per day. If William F. “Buffalo Bill" Cody's Pony Express was doing the delivery it would have taken three days, based on the best time from St. Joseph to Sacramento. The carrier pigeon message system developed by the Arabs sometime between the 7th and the 9th century AD, would have taken two days if it came back at all. The square sailed ships of the time just would not meet the new racing yacht specifications of today and if the winds were contrary it could have taken weeks: and if Odyssey was in charge years.

The funny thing is that Aeschylus the Greek Dramatist Said that Clytemnestra knew that day. But how could she know? Did space aliens tell her? NO! Was she a clarvoincant? NO! An out of body experience? NO! Catoptromance (a magic Mirror)

[Qoais]

Pyramid text translation from:

Faulkner R.O, Ancient Egyptian Pyramid Text, Oxford University Press, 1969,P 117

[Mario Dantas]

 

[Qoais]

A couple of links to the ancient use of mirrors:

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/olympus/6581/chronos10b.html
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/6581/chronos10c.html

[Qoais]

Although I haven't seen the peer reviewed paper of Prof. Barsoum's that was supposed to be out in August, regarding the pyramids being partially constructed of concrete, I did come across a site debunking the similarities between the Egyptian pyramids and the American ones. 

Actually, the most interesting line in the whole thing (to me) was this:

Yet, no matter how many blacksmiths stood ready to sharpen and re-sharpen the tools of Al Mamun’s work force, they could not penetrate the exterior.

Now al Mamun tried to get into the GP in 820 AD.  I guess he must not have had the quality copper tools of the ancient Egyptians of 3000 years earlier when they built the thing!  

http://anth507.tripod.com/pyramids.htm

[BlueHue]

A good-looking woman named Helen (the wife of Menelmaus, King of Sparta) got the Ancient world in to a twist almost 3100 years ago after she was kidnapped: Menelmaus, Agamemnon and the Greek army went to Troy to free her. Even as the siege ensued, another woman waited in her palace, back at Mycennae in Greece for word of the battle. Her name was Clytemnestra, sister in-law to Helen . “Buffalo Bill" Cody's Pony Express was doing the delivery it would have taken three days, based on the best time from St. Joseph to Sacramento. The carrier pigeon message system developed by the Arabs sometime between the 7th and the 9th century AD, would have taken two days if it came back at all. : and if Odyssey was in charge years.

The funny thing is that Aeschylus the Greek Dramatist Said that Clytemnestra knew that day. But how could she know? Did space aliens tell her? NO! Was she a clarvoincant? NO! An out of body experience? NO! Catoptromance (a magic Mirror)

Dear  QUOAIS:

WHAT about Mail carrying Pidgeons ? ?  Besides " Troy" of Schliemann was a copy( one of the few that sprang up as POST-Trojan-colonies, at Truva or ILLION(=Nova.)   the REAL TROY at the IRON GATE or " Hellespont", was named TAURUSIA or : TAUROS ROSSIA meaning:" White-ELEPHANT- Bull.)and is TODAY:the city of TARSOS in Cillicia ( =south East Turkey.) " BlueHue " 22 10 Jan-2008 

[rockessence]

Blue,  you are absolutely correct about the pigeons... there are twin doves/pigeons symbols found at some of the sites where the Apollonian mysteries were held.

Don't agree about Troy though.

[Nerc]

this city was unknown to western science until 2005 according to the preseident of the european archaeological society anthony harding. the only 20th century study done was described in the 2006 report as being all lies.

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=45.932528,21.238461&spn=0.068292,0.138702&t=h&z=13&om=1

5000acres enclosed, walls heaped up from both sides and 300feet across one of them. hotsprings, war dykes and all the other goodies the illiad talks about.

[Nerc]

but if thats troy then there should be a huge three ring city laying about called atlantis. well there is this thing

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=45.506347,21.166534&spn=0.550518,1.109619&t=h&z=10&om=1

[Nerc]

gades, garden of yima

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=45.012996,21.017189&spn=0.034708,0.069351&t=h&z=14&om=1

[Nerc]

uranos chair or olympia triphyllios [temple there is unknown]

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=46.443616,22.691875&spn=0.004229,0.008669&t=h&z=17&om=1

[Nerc]

atlas

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=47.592041,24.639072&spn=0.06622,0.138702&t=h&z=13&om=1

[Qoais]

The carrier pigeon message system developed by the Arabs sometime between the 7th and the 9th century AD, would have taken two days if it came back at all.

[BlueHue]

CARRIER Pidgeons were a secret in War times, evdery Army had it's carrier Pidgeons it was  a selfevidend fact , The Arabs may have develloped a new- non-military CIVIL Mail-Postservice apart from the allready continually existing militairy one, why even NOACH let loose an untrained Pidgeon that came back !  Today the hobby Pidgeonbreeders,  may have gray mail carrying- pidgeons but the Greeks used white Pidgeons to avoid them beiing shot for food by hunters in the field.    Besides the Peacefull OWL-bird,  WhitePidgeons of Athena were always  warbirds, only with an Olivebranche in its beak, it was a Peacebringer !     " BlueHue" dd 11 Jan.  2008

[BlueHue]

Blue,  you are absolutely correct about the pigeons... there are twin doves/pigeons symbols found at some of the sites where the Apollonian mysteries were held.Don't agree about Troy though.

Dear, . . Rockincense,

TROY has a strange Founding history ,
because it was Founded Trice :
First,   Princess Europa founded it, than secondly her husband ( Astreion or Astraeus in his" guise" as:)Dardanus than Thirdly their grandson Tros than Teucer than Laomedon, but these would be new foundations of added suburbs !

That Schliemann did not find the original TROY
despite himself saying so, is a common oversight overlooked by all archaeologists because at the time Troy's Citadel,florished  it  was 30 meters above mean Sea-Level.

EUSTATICS  mean Sea-level rise since Troy's destruction:

Since year 855 bc until 755 bc this mean sea-level has risen 50 meters, thus at present the original Troy must be 20 meters below present mean-sea-level , thus the Citadell of " TRUVA" at the Dardanelles is situated too high above the Landscape !   it is as simple as that.

Besides as I was saying earlier, the GEO-Name of ' TROY" is wrong because the original name was TAURUSIA or Tauros Rossia" which name is only applied to the original name of  present TARSOS in Cilicia(= presently in Gullukule.)

Myth has it that AFTER the burning of Troy, all Troyans LEFT the original City and re-Founded Troy FIVE times in:1> Truva, 2>Buthrotum. 3>Pergamum, 4>Venice and 5>Rome !

Certainly after the original Troyans left other Nationals rebuilt this original City not 10 times as in TRUVA at the Dardanelles, but 20 times because the Rivers SEHAN and CEYHAN ( formerly Sarus & Pyramus, ) kept overflowing the City like in newOrleans !  Consequently one City below 20 layers at TARSOS was the original " Troy".

Heinrich Schliemann owned the Orange orchyard on the hills of Hissarlik and it was just too convenient for him to " Find" TROY there !   Next to TARSOS is ADANA which is the Second City founded as New-Atlantis by Dardanos AFTER the destruction of the Isle of Ad.    Please Read my SUB-Script for a NUTSHELL-overview/ of my Theory-explanation

You were saying that TROY which Schliemann found in 1868 were the original one and that You don't agree with the Facts as I present them to  you ?

Why am I aquainted with this sequence of events,   was it,  because I knew more on the Subject than You did, or because the ancient historians or presentday Classicists were " sleeping on the Job" ?!

Sincerely     " BlueHue"         dd- 11- Jan.- 2008