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« Reply #45 on: October 29, 2007, 06:07:27 pm »

Just a little side bar here regarding this drinking of sperm.  Originally, the north was tropical or semi-tropical, however the people of the Bok Saga supposedly did live thru the ice age.  Were they able to live solely on a diet of what fish lived in the vacinity?  Possibly.  But a great addition to their diet would have been the protein from the sperm, that was readily available.  I read an article many years ago about the "food" value of sperm.
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« Reply #46 on: October 29, 2007, 11:34:33 pm »

They also had goats, for wool, milk and etc.  During the "Golden Age" they were vegetarian, eating roots, saps, berries, and leafy foods, and probably honey.  Adding the sperm/sap system to that and they were primally healthy.  Whether they began eating meat/fish during the time of stress I don't know....just that they most definately survived, and survived with exceptional hearty health, coming out of ice-time tall and "golden" and intelligent...even brilliant, as described by the civilizations who reported their arrival all over the planet. 
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« Reply #47 on: October 30, 2007, 06:00:36 am »

 ( looking for things that can be apprehended in "my" pictures set within Critias dialogs and this is what i found):

" As to offices and honors, the following was the arrangement from
the first. Each of the ten kings in his own division and in his own
city had the absolute control of the citizens, and, in most cases,
of the laws, punishing and slaying whomsoever he would. Now the
order of precedence among them and their mutual relations were
regulated by the commands of Poseidon which the law had handed down.
These were inscribed by the first kings on a pillar of orichalcum,
which was situated in the middle of the island, at the temple of
Poseidon,
whither the kings were gathered together every fifth and
every sixth year alternately, thus giving equal honour to the odd
and to the even number
. And when they were gathered together they
consulted about their common interests, and enquired if any one had
transgressed in anything and passed judgment and before they passed
judgment they gave their pledges to one another on this wise:-There
were bulls who had the range of the temple of Poseidon; and the ten
kings, being left alone in the temple, after they had offered
prayers to the god that they might capture the victim which was
acceptable to him, hunted the bulls, without weapons but with staves
and nooses; and the bull which they caught they led up to the pillar
and cut its throat over the top of it so that the blood fell upon
the sacred inscription. Now on the pillar, besides the laws, there was
inscribed an oath invoking mighty curses on the disobedient. When
therefore, after slaying the bull in the accustomed manner, they had
burnt its limbs, they filled a bowl of wine and cast in a clot of
blood for each of them; the rest of the victim they put in the fire,
after having purified the column all round. Then they drew from the
bowl in golden cups and pouring a libation on the fire, they swore
that they would judge according to the laws on the pillar, and would
punish him who in any point had already transgressed them, and that
for the future they would not, if they could help, offend against
the writing on the pillar, and would neither command others, nor
obey any ruler who commanded them, to act otherwise than according
to the laws of their father Poseidon."          (Plato's Critias)

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I noticed that there is the number ONE just below the "pillar". Its centered at the bottom of the image.

http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/caboverdian/TheIsland03/photo#5127079731905116850
http://picasaweb.google.com/dantaz/TheIsland02/photo#5122006955580730770

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http://picasaweb.google.com/dantaz/TheIsland02/photo#5117987902496580658
http://picasaweb.google.com/dantaz/TheIsland02/photo#5124957340415045298
http://picasaweb.google.com/dantaz/TheIsland02/photo#5117964898651743154
http://picasaweb.google.com/dantaz/TheIsland02/photo#5121728946642627698
http://picasaweb.google.com/dantaz/TheIsland02/photo#5122007664250334642
http://picasaweb.google.com/dantaz/TheIsland02/photo#5117994843163731170
http://picasaweb.google.com/dantaz/TheIsland02/photo#5118238081830568610
http://picasaweb.google.com/dantaz/TheIsland02/photo#5117987911086515298
http://picasaweb.google.com/dantaz/TheIsland02/photo#5121741616796151042
http://picasaweb.google.com/dantaz/TheIsland02/photo#5125436014780219026

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« Reply #49 on: October 30, 2007, 01:58:04 pm »


 (pictures showing similar "devices"), actually the "trident" and the "Celtic cross" (thanks for posting  rockessence).

                                         
                                       "Working "Celtic Cross Device" 5000 BC - 500 AD"

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"sophisticated" "lightening rods"?:

http://picasaweb.google.com/dantaz/TheIsland02/photo#5117964894356775842
http://picasaweb.google.com/dantaz/TheIsland02/photo#5117987906791547986
http://picasaweb.google.com/dantaz/TheIsland02/photo#5117964890061808514
http://picasaweb.google.com/dantaz/TheIsland02/photo#5122012895520501314
http://picasaweb.google.com/dantaz/TheIsland02/photo#5122008583373336002
http://picasaweb.google.com/dantaz/TheIsland02/photo#5125433961785851474
http://picasaweb.google.com/dantaz/TheIsland02/photo#5125433966080818786
http://picasaweb.google.com/dantaz/TheIsland02/photo#5125432595986251218
http://picasaweb.google.com/dantaz/TheIsland02/photo#5121742072062684434

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« Reply #50 on: October 30, 2007, 02:05:49 pm »

found this:

http://pl.youtube.com/user/666revelation

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« Reply #51 on: October 30, 2007, 02:29:38 pm »

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« Reply #52 on: October 30, 2007, 03:59:57 pm »

Qoais and Rockessence,

Just now i remembered of the Saga aspect of "Immunology". I think there is a connection between drinking and Immunization too.

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Rockessence:

"They also had goats, for wool, milk and etc.  During the "Golden Age" they were vegetarian, eating roots, saps, berries, and leafy foods, and probably honey.  Adding the sperm/sap system to that and they were primally healthy.  Whether they began eating meat/fish during the time of stress I don't know....just that they most definately survived, and survived with exceptional hearty health, coming out of ice-time tall and "golden" and intelligent...even brilliant, as described by the civilizations who reported their arrival all over the planet. "

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"Just a little side bar here regarding this drinking of sperm.  Originally, the north was tropical or semi-tropical, however the people of the Bok Saga supposedly did live thru the ice age.  Were they able to live solely on a diet of what fish lived in the vicinity?  Possibly.  But a great addition to their diet would have been the protein from the sperm, that was readily available.  I read an article many years ago about the "food" value of sperm."

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immunology

                                   Histological examination of the immune system

"Even before the concept of immunity (from immunis, Latin for "exempt") was developed, numerous early physicians characterised organs that would later prove to be part of the immune system. The key primary lymphoid organs of the immune system are thymus and bone marrow, and secondary lymphatic tissues such as spleen, tonsils, lymph vessels, lymph nodes, adenoids, and skin. When health conditions warrant, immune system organs including the thymus, spleen, portions of bone marrow, lymph nodes and secondary lymphatic tissues can be surgically excised for examination while patients are still alive.

Many components of the immune system are actually cellular in nature and not associated with any specific organ but rather are embedded or circulating in various tissues located throughout the body.

Classical immunology


Classical immunology ties in with the fields of epidemiology and medicine. It studies the relationship between the body systems, pathogens, and immunity. The earliest written mention of immunity can be traced back to the plague of Athens in 430 BCE. Thucydides noted that people who had recovered from a previous bout of the disease could nurse the sick without contracting the illness a second time. Many other ancient societies have references to this phenomenon, but it was not until the 19th and 20th centuries before the concept developed into scientific theory.

The study of the molecular and cellular components that comprise the immune system, including their function and interaction, is the central science of immunology. The immune system has been divided into a more primitive innate immune system, and acquired or adaptive immune system of vertebrates, the latter of which is further divided into humoral and cellular components.

The humoral (antibody) response is defined as the interaction between antibodies and antigens. Antibodies are specific proteins released from a certain class of immune cells (B lymphocytes). Antigens are defined as anything that elicits generation of antibodies, hence they are Antibody Generators. Immunology itself rests on an understanding of the properties of these two biological entities. However, equally important is the cellular response, which can not only kill infected cells in its own right, but is also crucial in controlling the antibody response. Put simply, both systems are highly interdependent.

In the 21st century, immunology has broadened its horizons with much research being performed in the more specialized niches of immunology. This includes the immunological function of cells, organs and systems not normally associated with the immune system, as well as the function of the immune system outside classical models of immunity." 

 Immunology
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immunology

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« Reply #53 on: October 30, 2007, 05:07:27 pm »

Dr. Ulf Richter "Platos Atlantis was in a River Delta" is a confirmation of Atlantis being located in Greenland. Whether topographically, geophysically, but also Geometrical data similarity.

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- The average size of Brides;
- The width of Channels;
- The area of the main Dock
- The perimeter of the Plain (since it is an "oblong" shape, and we can't precisely determine its limits.)
- Etc...

 obviously "small" details are less visible, therefore we just looked for the larger figures:

- The Plain (150x100 km)   (golden mean rectangle)
http://picasaweb.google.com/dantaz/TheIsland02/photo#5118274395779056306

- The City (6.6 km)
http://picasaweb.google.com/dantaz/TheIsland02/photo#5118381701241980130

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"Platos Atlantis was in a River Delta"

http://www.black-sea-atlantis.com/richter.pdf


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[...]  “KHET” INSTEAD OF STADE

We have, indeed, an example that a famous
Greek author gave wrong information by
transforming Egyptian length units into
Greek "stades". This was Herodotus, the
"father of history" , who gave all distances in
Egypt (in stades) much longer as they are in
reality, while he reported all the distances in
Greece correctly. The usual explanation for
this error is that he has mixed up the
Egyptian units of measurement, obviously
taken from an Egyptian itinerary, before he
transformed them into stades.
A similar error could have taken place
while the Egyptian priest narrated the
Atlantis story to Solon. It is self-evident
that the priest gave all the distances in
Egyptian units of measurement, as they
were written in the ancient texts, and Solon
wrote them down as he heard them for later
transformation into Greek stades. When he
returned to Greece he had no opportunity
for this calculation or forgot it. His heirs
(Dropides, Critias the Elder and Critias the
Younger) found in Solons notes only the
figures without the units of measurement
and obviously thought it must be stades (especially since in their
time, due to the busy trade with the
Greeks, even the Egyptian people were
using Greek stades in addition to their own
units), and Critias passed this (erroneous)
information on to Plato.

I feel that this is a very probable error
in the long chain of tradition between the
Saitic priest and Plato. Which unit of measurement was
commonly used by the ancient Egyptians?


It was the "Royal Cubit" or "Meh" (0,524m) and for longer distances the "Khet" = 100 "Royal Cubits"
(1 khet = 52,4 meters = 172 feet)
When we take this "khet" for what
Plato called "stade", we get much more
probable dimensions for Atlantis than
those mentioned before. (See table 2, column 3):


a)The size of the level plain is 105 x
157 km
(16475 sq.km, a little smaller than
the Peloponesos-peninsula in Greece).

b) The diameter of the central city of
Atlantis is 6,7 km
(The city of Rome in the
late times of the Roman empire (Aurelian
wall) had a diameter of 6 km and about one
million inhabitants).

c) The racecourse for horses is 52 m
wide and 3 kilometers long, like one of the
larger modern racecourses.

d) The canal round the plain is 524 km
long, 52 m wide and 8,7 m deep. (The
forerunner of the Suez canal, built by
pharaoh Necho and king Dareios of Persia
about 500 BC, was 180 km long, 45 m
wide and had a depth of 5.5 m; see table 1)

e) The bridges over the circular canals
are 8,7 m
wide, comparable with the
breadth of medieval bridges.

f) The temple of Poseidon has a size of
26 x 52 m
, a very reasonable size
compared with the famous Poseidon
temple in Paestum/Italy (24 x 60 m). "[...]

Ulf Richter

"Platos Atlantis was in a River Delta" [/b]

http://www.black-sea-atlantis.com/richter.pdf

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If these measurements coincide, then, i hope i am not exaggerating to affirm that it is in fact proven that Plato was right about Atlantis. The chances of this assertions being wrong are becoming less and less probable.
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« Reply #54 on: October 30, 2007, 06:16:55 pm »

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« Reply #55 on: October 30, 2007, 08:10:23 pm »

In Gwen Parker's  "the Azores in Pictures"


http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php/topic,37.msg74.html#msg74

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"A very plausible solution to the Atlantis mystery is that Plato's Atlantic Island was located in the Mid-Atlantic and that the island chain known as the Azores are its surviving remnants."

"Christian O'Brien, a retired industrial geologist, archaeologist and historical writer, has also tackled the concept of a mid-Atlantic continent having once existed in the vicinity of the Azores."

Andrew Collins  (Gateway to Atlantis)
http://www.andrewcollins.com/page/interactive/midatlan.htm

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We think there might have been two great crust displacements.

- The first Displacement :

The Planet broke up from its Proto-Planetary shape, creating an Island surrounded by other Islands of considerable dimensions (some of which are among the biggest Islands on Earth), namely:

       - Greenland is the biggest Island in the World, with     2,166,086 km²     (836,109 sq mi);
 
       - Scandinavia Peninsula (Norway+Sweden)                  777,000 km²      (300,000 sq mi);
       - Baffin Island, the 5th largest with                                  507,451 km²      (195,928 sq mi);
       - Ellsmere Island, the 10th largest with                           196,235 km²        (75,767 sq mi);

 
       
- The second and last Displacement :

Greenland,  along with other Islands, entered in an Arctic climate cycle which, unfortunately, is today close to an "end".


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« Reply #56 on: October 31, 2007, 03:37:12 am »

Nice work on the type, Mario.  Have you figured out how to post pictures yet?
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« Reply #57 on: October 31, 2007, 04:44:44 am »

Hi Brittany,

Thanks, i have tried, but the pictures are too big, (I am working from a machine that doesn't have any image editor, so i can't scale the images) do you have any suggestions? Thanks in advance for your concern.
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« Reply #58 on: October 31, 2007, 05:38:50 am »

"Macaronesia is a modern collective name for several groups of islands in the North Atlantic Ocean near Europe and North Africa belonging to three countries: Portugal, Spain, and Cape Verde. The name comes from the Greek for "fortunate islands", a term used by Ancient Greek geographers for islands to the west of the Straits of Gibraltar.

Macaronesia consists of four archipelagos:

    * Azores (Portugal)
    * Madeira, including the Savage Islands (Portugal)
    * Canary Islands (Spain)
    * Cape Verde (Cape Verde)

The islands of Macaronesia are volcanic in origin, and are thought to be the product of several geologic hotspots.

The climate of the Macaronesian islands ranges from subtropical to tropical. The Portuguese archipelagos of the Azores and Madeira have a generally cooler climate and higher rainfall than the Canaries and Cape Verde.

The islands have a unique biogeography, and are home to several distinct plant and animal communities. None of the Macaronesian islands were part of a continent, so the native plants and animals reached the islands via long-distance dispersal. Laurel-leaved forests, called laurisilva, once covered most of the Azores, Madeira, and parts of the Canaries between 400-1200 m altitude (the eastern Canaries and Cape Verde being too dry). These forests resemble the ancient forests that covered the Mediterranean basin and northwestern Africa before cooling and drying of the ice ages. Trees of the genera Apollonias (Lauraceae), Clethra (Clethraceae), Dracaena (Ruscaceae), Ocotea (Lauraceae), Persea (Lauraceae), and Picconia (Oleaceae), which are found in the Macaronesian laurel forests, are also known from fossils to have lived around the Mediterranean before the ice ages.

Felling of the forests for timber and firewood, clearing vegetation for grazing and agriculture, and the introduction of exotic plants and animals by humans has displaced much of the native vegetation. The laurisilva has been reduced to small pockets. As a result, many of the endemic biota of the islands are seriously endangered or extinct."

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« Reply #59 on: October 31, 2007, 12:28:08 pm »

                                             


Having read some of Desiree's posts about the Bahamas, we would like to speculate about a few things that are related to the Plate Tectonics.


"The ARE's Search For Atlantis—2007 Summary: Part One of Three"

http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php/topic,1962.0.html

Bermuda Triangle Yields Secrets
By Dr. Greg Little

The Association For Research & Enlightenment's Search For Atlantis

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"ANDROS PLATFORM"

http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php/topic,356.0.html


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"CAT ISLAND"

http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php/topic,575.0.html


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We think these Caribbean areas were submitted to several heavy crust "twisting".  Notice how South America has an identical shape compared to New Zealand.

http://www.mathworks.com/access/helpdesk/help/toolbox/map/worldmap-geoid.gif

The whole American Continent swung from West to East, and Central America created a Geological "wrinkle" (blue areas = compression). But mainly in the Bahama as the darker blue area show. This area (the Caribbean) have unresolved tectonics, and we think it might relate to the magnetic disorientation of several (communication / orientation) devices. The Geoid is a "gravitational anomaly" map, and enables the view of tectonics movements that might have happened 10 / 12 thousand years ago.


"Hephaestus chariot" got tangentially close to our Planet, hitting South America at Drake's Straight, Madagascar, India (Ninety Ridge at Bengal Bay), the Micronesian Islands, Australia, New Zealand.

"Ninety East Ridge major feature of the Indian Ocean which runs in a north-south direction approximately along the longitude 90°E. It lies at the immediate outboard of the Sunda Trench between the Bengal Fan and the Nicobar Fan. The Ninety East Ridge has existed since early in the formation of the Bay of Bengal. The ridge represents the trace of a hot spot formed during the northward flight of India and its associated oceanic lithosphere of the Bay of Bengal."

http://banglapedia.org/ht/B_0361.HTM


 The Geoid maps have the possibility of show heavy tectonic activity, the magnetic anomaly readings were imprinted on the Crust at the time of the event and became like a Geologic "photography".

http://picasaweb.google.com/dantaz/TheIsland02/photo#5118372664630789314

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If you take a Plate Tectonics map, you will notice a tremendous similarity with Kirchner's Map. Probably, either Kirchner and Piri Reis Maps might have been made in a very precise way, but don't apply anymore today, for only some parts of them remained the same.

The yellow and orange areas, being the American and the African Continent, while the rest was where Greenland was positioned, together with other Islands at the Atlantic or the "Sea of Chronos".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Tectonic_plates_Caribbean.png
http://picasaweb.google.com/dantaz/TheIsland02/photo#5118338485281047346
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