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But this period was brief, only ca 15 years and may, in fact, not have had any large effect
outside of the royal court.

For people in general, life probably went on as it had always done, they kept on praying to
their same local deities and was largely unaffected by the changes on the national level.

After Akhenaten´s death the priesthood of Amun reinstalled the old religious practice, tore
down the temples to Aten and the Amarna period became an exception in the history of
Ancient Egypt.

The idea of a single overall creator-god did exist before the time of Akhenaten.

IT is found on the stela of the brothers Suti and Hor (British Museum), where the sun god is
said to be a supreme deity expressed as different gods like Re, Amun and Heru (Horus).

But it is during the time of Akhenaten that this idea reaches its foremost expression.



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                                        E G Y P T I A N   M O N O T H E I S M





During the last eighty years the gods of Egypt and the religion of the Ancient Egyptians have been carefully studied by many Egyptologists, but the difficulties which surround these subjects have not yet been cleared away.

The responsibility for the existence of these difficulties rests upon the Egyptians themselves, because they did not write books on their religion or explanations of what they believed.

But a great many hymns to their gods and legends of their gods and goddesses have come down to us, and from these, thanks to the publication of Egyptian texts during the last thirty years, it is now possible to arrive at a number of important conclusions about the Egyptian religion and its general character.

The older Egyptologists debated the question whether it was monotheistic, polytheistic, orpantheistic, and the differences in the opinions which they formed about it will illustrate its difficulty.

Champollion believed it to have been "a pure monotheism, which manifested itself externally by a symbolic polytheism."

1 Tiele thought that in the beginning it was polytheistic, but that it developed in two opposite directions; in the one direction gods were multiplied, and in the other it drew nearer and nearer to monotheism.

2 Naville treated it as a "religion of
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nature, inclining to pantheism."

1 Maspero admitted that the Egyptians applied the epithets, "one God" and "only God" to several gods, even when the god was associated with a goddess and a son, but he adds "ce dieu Un n'etait jamais DIEU tout court";

2 the "only god" is the only god Amen, or the only god Ptah, or the only god Osiris, that is to say, a being determinate possessing a personality, name, attributes, apparel, members, a family, a man infinitely more perfect than men. He is a likeness of the kings of this earth, and his power, like that of all kings, is limited by the power of neighbouring kings. The conception of his unity is geographical and political at least as much as it is religious.

Ra, only god of Heliopolis, is not the same as Amen, only god of Thebes. The Egyptian of Thebes proclaimed the unity of Amen to the exclusion of Ra, the Egyptian of Heliopolis proclaimed the unity of Ra to the exclusion of Amen. Each one god, conceived of in this manner, is only the one god of the nome or of the town, and not the one god of the nation recognized as such throughout the country.

On the other hand, de Rougé wrote in 1860, "The unity of a supreme and self-existent being, his eternity, his almightiness, and eternal reproduction as God; the attribution of the creation of the world and of all living beings to this supreme God; the immortality of the soul, completed by the dogma of punishments and rewards; such is the sublime and persistent base which, notwithstanding all deviations and all mythological embellishments, must secure for the beliefs of the Ancient Egyptians a most
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honourable place among the religions of antiquity."

1 And in his work on the Religion and Mythology of the Ancient Egyptians 2 Brugsch expressed his conviction that, from the earliest times, a nameless, incomprehensible and eternal God was worshipped by the inhabitants of the Valley of the Nile.

This conviction he based on many passages in the religious and moral texts of the Egyptians, in which reference is made to a self-existent almighty Being who seems to be none other than the God of modern nations.

From these documents we learn that the Egyptian theologians believed that at one time, which was even to them infinitely remote, nothing existed except a boundless primeval mass of water which was shrouded in darkness, but which contained the ultimate sources of everything that now exists in the universe.

In late times this watery mass, which was called Nunu, was regarded as the "Father of the Gods." A something in this water, which formed an essential part of it, felt the desire to create and, having imagined in itself the forms of the beings and things that it intended to create, became operative, and the first creature produced was the god Tem or Khepera, who was the personification of the creative power in the primeval water.

This god sent forth from his body Shu (i.e., Heat) and Tefnut (Moisture), and these produced Geb (Earth) and Nut (Sky). Tem or Khepera fashioned the form of everything in his mind and made known his desires to create to his heart, which was personified as Thoth. This god received the creative impulse and invented in his mind a
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name for the object that was to be created, and when he uttered that name the object came into being. In the texts of the early Dynastic Period Ptah and Khnemu were associated with the god of the primeval water, Nunu or Nu, and they were said to fashion the creatures and things the names of which were pronounced by Thoth.

Moreover, they associated the goddess Maat with Thoth, and the part she played at the creation was very much like that which is attributed to Wisdom in the Book of Proverbs.

What the earliest pictorial forms of Tem, Ptah and Khnemu were is not known, but the first and se-
cond appear as men at an early period, and the third is represented by a special form of ram or kudu.

Ra, who usurped the attributes of Tem, also appears as a man.

But of the original creative power which existed of and by itself in the watery mass of Nunu no form is known.

The mind of man was incapable of imagining him, and the hand of man was incapable of making a figure that could be considered to be an image or likeness of him. Under the XVIIIth dynasty an Egyptian scribe composed a hymn to Hep (or Hap or Hapi), the Nile-god, in which he traced his origin back to the great watery mass of Nunu.

He says of him,

"He cannot be sculptured in stone in figures whereon is placed the White Crown. He cannot be seen. Service cannot be rendered to him. Gifts cannot be presented to him. He is not to be approached in the sanctuaries. Where he is is not known. He is not to be found in inscribed shrines. No habitation can contain him. There is none who acteth as guide to his heart."

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[paragraph continues] Nile-god is thus described only because he was the direct emanation from the great unseen, unknown and incomprehensible creative power, which had existed for ever and was the source of all created things. Statues of the Nile-god were made under the last dynasties of the New Empire, but the hymn quoted above was written many centuries earlier.

The religious literature of Ancient Egypt of all periods is abundant, yet in no class of it do we find any prayer or petition addressed to this unseen and unknown god.

But in the Collections of Moral Aphorisms, or "Teachings," composed by ancient sages, we find several allusions to a divine power to which no personal name is given. The word used to indicate this power is NETER or NETHER.

Many have tried to assign a meaning to this word and to find its etymology, but the original meaning of it is at present unknown. The contexts of the passages in which it occurs suggest that it means something like "eternal God." The same word is often used to describe an object, animate or inanimate, which possesses some unusually remarkable power or quality, and in the plural neteru, it represents the beings and things to which adoration in one form or another is paid.

The great God referred to in the Moral Aphorisms is also spoken of as pa neter, "the God," just as the Arabs speak of Al-Allah, i.e., "the Allah." The following examples drawn from the Precepts of Kagemna
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[paragraph continues] (IVth dynasty) and the Precepts of Ptah-hetep (Vth dynasty) will illustrate this use of Neter. 1



1. The things which God, (neter), doeth cannot be known.

2. Terrify not men. God, (neter), is opposed thereto.

3. The daily bread is under the dispensation of God, (neter).

4. When thou ploughest, labour (?) in the field God, (neter), hath given thee.

5. If thou wouldst be a perfect man make thy son pleasing to God, (neter).

6. God, I 1, loveth obedience; disobedience I is hateful to God, (neter).

7. Verily a good (or, beautiful) son is the gift of God, (neter).




These extracts suggest that the writers of the Precepts believed in a God whose plans were inscrutable, who was the feeder of men, who assigned to each a share of the goods of this world,
and who expected men to obey his behests and to bring up their children in a way pleasing to him.

As time went on the ideas of the Egyptians about God changed, and under the XVIIIth dynasty he
lost something of the aloofness with
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which they regarded him, and a fuller idea of his personality existed in their minds.

This is clear from the following extracts taken from the Precepts, or Teaching, of Khensu-hetep, 1 more generally known as the "Maxims of Ani."



1. The God magnifies his name.

2. The house of God abominates overmuch speaking. Pray with a loving heart, the words of which are hidden. He will do what is needful for thee, he will hear thy petitions and will accept thine oblations.

3. It is thy God, who gives thee existence.

4. The God is the judge of the truth.

5. When thou makest an offering to thy God beware of offering what he abominates.

The unknown God of the early dynasties has now become a Being who gives men their lives and means of subsistence, who can be approached in a temple, or house, who is pleased with offerings, and with prayers offered up silently to him, and who wishes his name to be magnified. Another extract reads:--

6. "Observe with thine eye his plans (or dispensation). Devote thyself to singing praises to his name. He gives souls to hundreds of thousands of forms. He magnifies him that magnifies him."
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The text continues:

"Now the god of this earth is Shu, who is the President of the Horizons. His similitudes are upon the earth, and to them incense and offerings are made daily."

Shu in mythological language was the light and heat that emanated from the self-created, self-subsistent and self-existent primeval god, Horus, or Tem, or Khepera. The being who is referred
to in the first part of extract No. 6 seems to me to be different from Shu, the god of this earth.
And it will be remembered that Amenhetep IV, the "Disk-worshipper," adored

"Horus of the Two Horizons in his name of Shu (i.e., Heat) who is in the Aten (Disk)."

The Teaching of Amenemapt, the son of Kanekht, a work that was probably written under the
XVIIIth dynasty, proves quite plainly that the writer distinguished very clearly between God and
the gods Ra, the Moon-god, Thoth, Khnem-Ra, Aten, etc. In the following extracts he clearly re-
fers to God.



1. Leave the angry man in the hands of God . . . God knows how to requite him (Col. V).

2. Carry not away the servant of the God for the benefit of another (Col. VI).

3. Take good heed to Nebertcher, (Lord of the Universe) (Col. VIII).

4. Though a man's tongue steers the boat, it is Nebertcher who is the pilot (Col. XIX).

5. Truth is the great porter (or bearer) of God (Col. XXI).

6. Seat thyself in the hands of God (Col. XXII).
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7. A man prepares the straw for his building, but God is his architect.

It is he who throws down, it is he who builds up daily.

It is he who makes a man to arrive in Amentt (the Other World) [where] he is safe in the hand of God (Col. XXIV).

8. The love of God, praised and adored be he is more than the respect of the Chief (Col. XXVI). 1



It will be noted that in none of these extracts is any attempt made to describe God, Neter, and
that he is never called

                                                    "One," or "Only One."

The truth is that the Egyptians felt that they could not describe him and that they knew nothing about him, except that he existed. This great nameless. unseen and unknown God handed over to a number of inferior beings the direction and management of heaven and earth and everything which was in them.

Those that were kind and considerate to the human race men called gods, and those that were malevolent and inimical they called devils.

Each community or village, however small, possessed its own "god," whose power and importance depended upon the wealth and social position of his worshippers.

But the Egyptian, whilst adoring the "god," Neter, of his native city, was ready to admit the existence of another Neter, who was probably the Being whom we call God. Thus, in Chapter CXXV of the Book of the Dead, the deceased says in his declaration before the Forty-two gods,

                                                     "I have not cursed God,"
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and

                                       "I have not contemned the god of my city"

1. The distinction between "God" and "god of the city" was quite clear in the mind of the Egyptian.

It has been claimed by some that Amenhetep IV was the first monotheist in Egypt, but the acceptance of this statement depends upon what meaning is given to the word monotheism, i.e., the doctrine of there being only one god.

The passages from the Moral Papyri quoted above show that the Egyptian priests and learned men were monotheistic, even though they do not proclaim the oneness of the god to whom they refer.

The idea of oneness was well understood under the Ancient Empire, but in the Pyramid Texts the attribute is ascribed to the "gods" and to kings as well as to God.

Thus in Teta (l. 237) the "lord one" is mentioned; in Merenra I the king is called "great god alone," (l. 127), 2 and is said to be stronger than every god; and in Pepi II (l. 952) the king is called the

                                                           "one of heaven,"

Now the monotheism of Amenhetep IV was different from that of the writers of the Moral Papyri, and the oneness of Aten which he proclaimed resembled the oneness of several other Egyptian solar gods and also
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gods to whom solar attributes had not been originally ascribed.

Tem, Horus of the Two Horizons, and Ra, each of these is called "One," and "only one," whether mentioned singly or together as a triad, and the same title was given to Amen after his fusion
with Ra.

And, whilst Amenhetep IV was proclaiming the oneness of Aten in the city of Aten, the worshipper
of Amen was proclaiming the oneness of Amen in Thebes, the worshipper of Ra or Tem was pro-
claiming the oneness of his god in Heliopolis, and so on throughout the country.

And it is interesting to note that votaries of Neith of Saïs proclaimed that their goddess was "One,"
1 that she first created herself and then produced Ra from her own body.

The second portion of a fine Hymn to the solar triad, which is preserved in the Papyrus of Ani (sheet 19), and is addressed to Ra-Tem-Heraakhuti the "only one," adds Osiris to this "only one" thus

"Praise be to thee, O Osiris, eternal Lord, Un-nefer, Heraakhuti, whose forms are manifold and whose

 attributes axe majestic, Ptah-Seker-Tem in Anu, lord of the hidden shrine and creator of Hetkaptah

(Memphis) . . . thou turnest thy face to the Other World, thou makest the earth to shine like tcham

(gilded copper?). The dead rise up to look at thee, they breathe the air and they see thy face like

that of the Aten (Disk) when he rises on his horizon. Since they see thee their hearts are content, O

thou who art Eternity and Everlastingness."

It is impossible for Amenhetep IV to have indulged in the philosophical speculations as to the unity of God, with which he is sometimes credited, but which were only evolved by the Greek
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philosophers a thousand years later.

It is, however, very probable that he wished Aten, as the god of absolute truth and justice, to become the national god of Egypt and divine ruler of all the countries of the Sudan and Western
Asia that formed his dominions.

If that be so, he was born too late to bring this about, even supposing that he was physically and mentally fit to undertake such a task.

When he ascended the throne, Amen, or Amen-Ra, the King of the Gods, the Lord of the world, was actually what Amenhetep wished Aten to be.

Amen had expelled: the Hyksos and set the first king of the XVIIIth dynasty upon his throne, and he had given victory to the successors of Aahmes I and filled Egypt with the wealth of the Sudan and Western Asia.

Amen had become the overlord of the gods, and his fame filled the greater part of the world that was known to the Egyptians.

It was impossible to overthrow the great and wealthy priesthood of Amen, to say nothing of the social institutions of which Amen was the head.

The monotheism of Amenhetep from a religious point of view was not new, but from a political point
of view it was. It consisted chiefly of the dogma that Amen was unfit to be the national god of Egypt, the Sudan and Syria, and that Aten was more just, more righteous, and more merciful than the upstart god of Thebes, and that Aten alone was fitted to be the national god of Egypt and her dominions.

When Amenhetep tried to give a practical form to his views, his attempt was accompanied, as has frequently been the case with religious "reformers," by the confiscation of sacrosanct property, and
by social confusion and misery.

It was fortunate for Egypt that she only produced one king who was an individualist and idealist, a pacifist and a religious "reformer" all in one.
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Amenhetep IV attempted to establish a positive religion, and as a religious innovator he spoke and acted as if he were divinely inspired and had a divine revelation to give to men, and in every way he tried to depart from the traditions of the past.

He never realised that, if his religion was to take root and flourish, it must be in contact all along the line with the older ideas and practices which he found among his people.

Religion did not begin with him in Egypt.

He failed in his self-appointed task because his religion did not appeal to the tradition and religious instincts and susceptibilities that already existed among the Egyptians, and because he would not tolerate the traditional forms in which their spiritual feelings were embodied.
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                                                            Footnotes





140:1 L'Égypte, Paris, 1839, p. 245.

140:2 Geschiedenis van den Godsdienst in de Oudheid, Amsterdam, 1893, p. 25.

141:1 La Religion, p. 92.

141:2 Histoire Ancienne, Paris, 1904, p. 33.

142:1 Études sur le Rituel Funéraire (in Rev. Arch., Paris, 1860, p. 12).

142:2 Religion und Mythologie, Leipzig, 1885, p. 90.

143:1 See Egyptian Hieratic Papyri in the British Museum, Second Series, London, 1923, pl. LXXIII.
(Introduction, p. 31.)

145:1 They are taken from the Prisse Papyrus which was written under the XIth or XIIth dynasty.
See Virey, Études sur le Papyrus Prisse, Paris, 1877, where a transcript of the hieratic text and a
French translation will be found.

146:1 See Chabas, L'Egyptologie, Série I., Chalon-sur-Saône, Paris, 1876-78; and Amélineau,
La Morale Egyptienne, Paris, 1892.

148:1 See Egyptian Hieratic Papyri, ed. Budge, Second Series, London, 1923.

149:1 From the Papyrus of Nebseni. Early XVIIIth dynasty.

149:2 And "Lord of the earth to its limit"

150:1 See Budge, Gods of the Egyptians, Vol. 1, p. 458.


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